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 Post subject: Jimmy Carter
PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:33 pm 
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I hereby flame Jimmy Carter. :x
(Politics, flame, whatevah)


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:55 pm 
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But he's not the one who said:

George W. Bush, 12/18/2000, said... and CNN transcripts wrote:
If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.

Burn, Bush, burn. :twisted:

But I can swivel the flamethrower... what's the Carter target lately? :-s


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But he's not the one who said:

George W. Bush, 12/18/2000, said... and CNN transcripts wrote:
If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.

Burn, Bush, burn. Twisted Evil

But I can swivel the flamethrower... what's the Carter target lately? Eh?


Bush is FUNNY! My dad has been saying that exact same dictator thing for decades. Some folks just have no sense of humor! In fact, I wish Bush would get some teeth. He's got no dictator in him.
Hillary now, THERE'S a potential dictator. Everything the rest of us know is wrong.

Carter, anyhow, has been giving interviews (check out Der Spiegel --> http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/spiegel/0,1518,431793,00.html), and saying the MOST idiotic stuff. If he could get some facts straight, it would be very nice. I remember living through his administration, and it was truly pathetic.
If I want to criticize cousin George, the thing I hate most is that he tries to interact with vicious, murderous non-nation groups as if they were willing and able to see reason, and have a rational conversation, or understand the concept of global cooperation. He is also insanely patient with the League of Weenies (U.N.).
If mean people broke into my house and tried to take my children, I would not try to reason with them. I would shoot them. I would not shoot to maim. Why the frick people rant when leaders of free countries try to keep their people safe is incomprehensible to me. Let's just all sit here and DIE! After all, we hate war, so we don't plan to fight. Come on in! Shoot us, just like the murderbombers in Israel tear babies and grandmas limb from limb and blow up pizza parlors full of teenagers. Yessiree, what noble warriors they are! We should let them in, since that's on their agenda anyhow. I don't see any reason to fight the inevitable. Just sit back and......die..... :twisted:

Tara


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 Post subject: Jimmy Carter
PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:02 pm 
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You know those cars that are "flex fuel" capable? The ones that can run on gasoline OR M85, and some of them any combination of gasoline, ethanol, and methanol, Jimmy Carter was behind that.

During his term he pushed through legislation that gave auto makers a tax break for producing flex-fuel cars.

He did a number of other things to push this nation towards energy independence, and if it hadn't been for Reagan, George Bush Sr., and George Bush Jr. undoing much of what he did, we would be sending our kids to die in Iraq, 9/11 probably would not have happened, and we wouldn't be paying $3/gallon for gasoline.

Jimmy Carter also pushed through the Freedom of Information act, which for the first time actually gave us some visibility of what our government was doing.

A straight honest administration wouldn't have a problem with it's citizens knowing what it was doing, but Reagan and both Bushes gutted the act. Bush Jr. even went so far as to re-classify previously de-classified documents.

Now what we got is a government of the people by the oil oligarchies for the oil oligarchies.

Jimmy Carter didn't have much in the way of political savvy and that's too bad because he was the only honest president that actually put the interests of this country first, that we've had in my lifetime.

Yes, the attempted rescue of the Iranian hostages failed, but it was a lot better than trading weapons for the hostages ala Reagan.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:13 pm 
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You know those cars that are "flex fuel" capable? The ones that can run on gasoline OR M85, and some of them any combination of gasoline, ethanol, and methanol, Jimmy Carter was behind that.


Those darn fuel prices went down after he left office, though. Too bad all the free-market visionaries just dried up. They do seem to be reviving, though.

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During his term he pushed through legislation that gave auto makers a tax break for producing flex-fuel cars.


Can't call that a bad thing! Several dozen (modern) cars out there can actually use that stuff, but it's up to the people (that's us) to pay attention.

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He did a number of other things to push this nation towards energy independence, and if it hadn't been for Reagan, George Bush Sr., and George Bush Jr. undoing much of what he did, we would be sending our kids to die in Iraq, 9/11 probably would not have happened, and we wouldn't be paying $3/gallon for gasoline.


I strongly suspect that if Carter had been a bit more (okay, a LOT more) forceful in dealing with the terrorist kidnappers, there wouldn't be such a mess to clean up today. The silly goober (goober! goober!) basically just kept asking sweetly for them to be nice and return the poor Americans.
9/11 might not have happened if W's predecessor had dealt strongly with those people who only understand force and might, and who have declared since the 1970s, openly and publicly, that their goal is to bring the ENTIRE WORLD under Islam. I do believe they will fight until they are either completely killed off (like cancer), or they win. Ain't no negotiatin' with cancer!

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Jimmy Carter also pushed through the Freedom of Information act, which for the first time actually gave us some visibility of what our government was doing.

A straight honest administration wouldn't have a problem with it's citizens knowing what it was doing, but Reagan and both Bushes gutted the act. Bush Jr. even went so far as to re-classify previously de-classified documents.


Mostly true. There are some instances, though, when it's good to let the professionals who are committed to national security go about their business. When all Americans know which suspected terror cells are being spied upon, so do the terrorists. I'd rather get rid of those roaches. (Terrorists, not citizens.)

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Now what we got is a government of the people by the oil oligarchies for the oil oligarchies.

I'm not really in love with big oil, but I don't think the Alaskan tundra (f'rinstance) will be doomed by drilling. Foreign oil could be a disappearing act really soon now. Individuals need to take responsibility for their consumption of whatever they consume, be it food, oil or late night television. We're a really self-centered society.

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Jimmy Carter didn't have much in the way of political savvy and that's too bad because he was the only honest president that actually put the interests of this country first, that we've had in my lifetime
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Hmmmm. Funny, I feel that way about Reagan! I expect that no human could be a perfect president. Didn't seem quite right that he (Carter & friends) kicked out all those innocent Iranians in November of '79. Reminds me somewhat of the Japanese internment during WW2. Not highly humanitarian!

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Yes, the attempted rescue of the Iranian hostages failed, but it was a lot better than trading weapons for the hostages ala Reagan.


You bet! Go in there and kick their butts to the moon is more like it. Doggone politicians....trying to use diplomacy and barter instead of blaze on in.
Funny how the terrorists released the hostages in the same hour that Reagan took office.
Still, I can only rant about past presidential baloney for so long before I need a nap. Or a beer. I'll have to settle for a nap this time, since I'm fresh outta beer
:(

Tara


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Hmm, yeah. I happened to be spinning the dial and happened across one of those obscene Fox/Dizzzzney mcnews/talk stations (like you could avoid it) and it sounded like it was bash Jimmy carter night. Obviously the talking points have gone out and the mongrel mouthpieces of the soul-less Earth-killers have their marching orders. Seems the agenda now is a poorly veiled attempt to shift the blame for the illegitimate president's illegal war onto a nobel laureate. They seem to have learned their lesson ever since they had to rehabilitate the Watergate president into an "elder statesman" before his timely death. now when the polls drop the GOP whips out their hard-core members and they just keep into your face until you swallow their vile spew. The only thing to do when they start forcing their cockamamy agitation on you is to be sure you chew on it real hard before spitting it out.

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Hmm, yeah. I happened to be spinning the dial and happened across one of those obscene Fox/Dizzzzney mcnews/talk stations (like you could avoid it) and it sounded like it was bash Jimmy carter night.


Oooo! Maybe there's something in the air! Carterbashdust?

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Obviously the talking points have gone out and the mongrel mouthpieces of the soul-less Earth-killers have their marching orders.


Earth-killers? That reminds me -- I need to go weed the garden!

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Seems the agenda now is a poorly veiled attempt to shift the blame for the illegitimate president's


Gee, maybe we should get an utterly perfect voting system! That would solve things! Then we would all agree on EVERYTHING....like....presidential legitimacy! Except then someone would find a reason why the voting system just didn't work right that time, and -- shoot, maybe we should just hang up ALL our chads and find a dictator.:twisted: (I like those little devils!)

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illegal war onto a nobel laureate.


From my narrow perspective down at the bottom of this well, it seems like the war could only be illegal from an American perspective if America herself were not a sovereign nation. If we were a sub-set of the League of Weenies....er....United Nations, and we had to bow down to them -- if they ran the nation (which they would love to do, no doubt), then I would certainly agree. God forbid that should ever happen! Nobody in his/her/its right mind ever wants a war. The people who cause this world's misery will eventually metastasize and demolish the peace-loving majority if the majority doesn't understand that we can't reason with cancer. It seeks to destroy, and if we don't destroy IT, it will come HERE, and we will cease to exist.

As for Nobel Laureates, you can put a crown on a pig and call him King, but that's nuts! Didn't Arafat ALSO take home a PEACE prize? Of the Nobel variety? If there is justice in this universe, he's not in a nice place right now.

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They seem to have learned their lesson ever since they had to rehabilitate the Watergate president into an "elder statesman" before his timely death. now when the polls drop the GOP whips out their hard-core members and they just keep into your face until you swallow their vile spew.


Saying that Republicans have the power to force-feed all other folks "vile spew" seems to me to be saying that we have no choice but to accept and believe it, whatever this spew may be. It might be more useful to articulate some of this (spew) in order to evaluate it rationally. Some Republicans are certainly idiots, but so are some Dems and plenty of the other varieties as well. One thing that nauseates me specifically is when free market disincentives are allowed to stifle the economy, while at the same time a leader (say, a president) appropriates millions in tax dollars to "stimulate" something such as alternative fuel research and vehicle development. When the money runs out in a situation such as that, the taxpayers' pockets are that much emptier, and the free market disincentives (restrictions, regulations) are still in place. And then various critics lay all kinds of irrational blame wherever their anger leads them, without ever critiquing the issues carefully and drawing reality-based conclusions.

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The only thing to do when they start forcing their cockamamy agitation on you is to be sure you chew on it real hard before spitting it out. :twisted:


Icky.....when cockamamie agitation comes my way, I step aside and let it pass! Sometimes, I pick up a big racket (racquet, whatever) and whack it back over the net. I much prefer picnics, roller skates, cats, dogs, children, refined sugar and piñatas to cockamamie agitation.
cockamamie agitation...that's funny!

Tara


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