Eskinews crashed again, not accepting connections to the news server, and unfortunately also not allowing us to shot it down gracefully for a quick reboot. It's going through it's disk-scanning at the moment, which takes anywhere from 45 minutes to over an hour. Sorry for the inconvenience. We had hoped that the latest patches we installed would lessen the occurrences of this sort of thing. -- Eric T. Jorgensen Reality's a Rorschach test, Eskimo North Support Staff And all the world's a blot. 206-812-0051, 800-246-6874 "Semper Tux (Linux Forever)"