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AOL Simply Amazing!!!
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- Subject: AOL Simply Amazing!!!
- From: Nanook <email@example.com>
- Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:59:38 -0800 (PST)
- Cc: Badger Clan <firstname.lastname@example.org>, "Eric T. Jorgensen" <email@example.com>, firstname.lastname@example.org
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Well, it appeared the block was lifted earlier today BUT e-mail to some Netscape addresses (Netscape is owned by AOL) going through AOL servers is still failing. I contacted AOL's postmaster again, was told that a block was still in place on our client e-mail server and they had to send me to "Tier 2" to get it resolved. Send me they did. The guy there told me that there was a "fixed block" for their server in place and so they'd need to send me to "Tier 3" postmaster to get it removed. In order to do this they had to create a ticket. But his computer was down. So I sat on hold for five minutes while he rebooted it but then he came back online and said he couldn't get his computer running so I'd need to call back later. I pointed out to him that the block was behaving differently. When I had called on Saturday, their server would IMMEDIATELY disconnect with an error message referring to a website URL that gave an explanation. Now, it takes the EHLO command, the "mail from" command, the "rcpt to" command, and the "data" command, but after terminating the data phase with a '.' on a line by itself it gives a different error which says that the originating address format is invalid. Upon hearing this he said, Oh, we've been having problems with our routers and mail servers starting friday evening. So at this point I'm not really sure if AOL has us blocked or AOL's systems are just hopelessly screwed up, and since they can't even get their ticket system to boot, I can't even submit a trouble report at this time. And if that weren't enough... One of the things I did as part of the spam resolution was to sign up for their "feedback loop". Apparently, AOL can't use data in abuse.net like the rest of the known world, as an ISP, you have to specifically sign up with them to receive feedback regarding any spam originating from your site. So I signed up for this, and so far I've received three forwarded messages they consider spam. None of the three come from the server they blocked, they come from servers used to process incoming mail here and list mail. In all three cases, none of them appeared to be spam but valid list mail and apparently these people just didn't want to be on the list(s) in question. Problem, their wonderful spam report does not include the address of the user that received the spam and these lists have 30-50 aol customers on, the bulk of which WISH to be on them. I guess we could adopt a policy of not allowing any AOL customers to participate in mail lists hosted here. I hate to punish end users though for their providers faults, no matter how annoying they might be.