Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 07:43:53 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: Miracle An amazing thing happened to me yesterday. I stopped at a Thrift shop to look at books I might sell. I sell books on Amazon as a hobby. Also I am in the process of selling things from the house do reduce this inventory of 47 years. I went to a shelf and took off a book entitles something about History of the Northwest. Meaning Minnesota, the Dakotas, Missouri etc. I opened the book (which happened to be page 222) and the first thing I read was. "In 1883 J. H. Tower and J Gudgell ran the O X Ranch on the Little Black Creek from the Little Missouri at Marmarth" I'm not absolutely sure of the quote as I scribbled it on a piece of paper. It went on to say they had 20 to 30 thousand head of cattle. That is all that was said about Gudgel I did not see anything more about J Gudgell. Didn't look for Tower. But to open one of probably a thousand books and open the page to see the name Gudgel is what I call "Amazing" Doyal G Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 14:45:34 -0900 From: Dianne To: Ralph Johnson Subject: Re: Gudgel and cattle I have information on one Gudgel and his roll in bringing Herford cattle to the US but I can't recall if it was this J. Gudgell that is mentioned in the book "History of the Northwest." If people on th list have not heard the story of the cattle and Gudgel, then I will summarize it. Speak up if you want the info. Dianne Gudgel-Holmes From: Gudgeld@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 19:15:46 EST Subject: Gudgel cattle Dianne; I would have to dig my material out to get the details, and Mia knows more about this than I do, but both James and Charles Gudgel were deeply involved in the cattle business. Charles, I believe, was the one principally involved in the Gudgel-Simpson Cattle Co. in Missouri and Kansas and James was the one that had ranches all over Colorado Montana and the Dakotas. Charles was primarilly involved with Herefords and James with Angus. Both made big reputations in the cattle business. The OX ranch was one of the largest in the west and James was the one primarilly involved in it. I think it was in Montana. Would have to check to be sure. To get some additional info on the Gudgel-Simpson Cattle Co. go to http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/5320/gudgell.html The site has a quite a bit of info on the Company and on Charles. I don't think it had much on James. If anyone is interested, I could post a bunch of info I have on the two, but a better source is Mia. A quite a bit of what I have came from her. Dave Gudgel From dianeh@corecom.net Tue Dec 7 09:09:47 1999 Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 08:19:32 -0900 From: Dianne To: "Gudgel, Bob" Subject: [Fwd: Gudgels in Spain?] Bob, I wanted to make sure you got this message for the list-group. I could not tell if it went to the list or not. It is worth sending don't you think? Di Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 10:35:40 -0500 From: Stephen Gudgel To: "INTERNET:dianeh@corecom.net" Subject: Re: Gudgels in Spain? To: Dianne Gudgel- Holmes (and other possibly interested parties): First I wanted to mention that I have a younger sister, Dianne (Clara Dianne), born in 1951. Everytime I hear Dianne Gudgel, referring to you it is so strange. Until I got hooked up with this group, I had never heard of another Dianne Gudgel. (or hardly any other Gudgel outside the family members we know) I seem to be on a roll today. Here in Spain, next Monday (tomorrow) and Wednesday are national holidays (Immaculate Conception and the Constitution), so as is tradition here, Tuesday is a 'bridge' (puente) and most places are closed then too. So it is one of those rare looooong weekends and I've decided to catch up on email, which a constant struggle, and answer these messages I haven't had time to answer. So, how did I happen to come here.....? Well, my story is not really an unusual one, as stories about Americans living abroad go. I was one of the many babyboomers who were enticed into teaching (even though I'd already planned to be a teacher) as a reaction to the shortage of teachers when we were kids, and as history showed us, the baby boom had ended (they should have known that by then..) and many of us graduates eager to teach found there were often hundreds of teachers applying for each opening. I hated those odds and didn't want to end up in a little town, like where I'd grown up, so I went back to grad. school, but in the meantime had sent out a lot of letters of interest to various organizations, including the Peace Corps. And as luck/fate would have it, I was notified by Peace Corps late that spring that they wanted to consider me for Morocco. I'd done my student teaching in a black school in Chicago and had marked black Africa on my application -- oh, well, close! Anyway, I did end up going to Morocco and really loved it, once I got to know it. I really knew little to nothing about Morocco before that. It was an eye-opener and a real education. I already spoke French, my major in college, so they put me in Arabic classes during training. In my two short years there, I learned to like Arabic, the Muslim culture, Morocco and Moroccans and so many other things. I never dreamed I would like it so much. It is a beautiful country with fascinating customs and one of the best cuisines in the world. As cooking is one of my big hobbies, I learned a lot and had some great food! Oh, yes, I was an English teacher for the Peace Corps in a Moroccan high school. I switched from French to English as the overseas market was so good for English teachers. >From there I returned to Illinois and moved to Chicago where I had a great time, but I couldn't find work I really loved or that paid well. I had a very stable, but boring job at the gas company. And I think I realized that, as one colleague said, 'I still had sand in my shoes'. I am not sure it was sand, but nonetheless, the next stop was another country with a desert. I think it was more 'wanderlust'. I had had my eyes opened and found out that it was a big, fascinating world out there and I'd only seen a small corner, so I was ready for the next adventure. Also I was born with a fascination for things foreign -- who knows why? I'd liked foreign languages ever since I found out they existed. I always loved to meet and talk to the migrant workers', who came up to IL from Texas each spring to work in the fields, kids at school. I always wanted to meet any immigrants in town or people who spoke more than one language at home. So I guess it was my destiny. (My sister Connie Gudgel Phillips who is also on this group thing, and who actually got me on, always tells me I was adopted, but looked like all the other Gudgels, but that that is why I am so weird! :) ). So the next stop was Iran, where I learned another language. I loved Iran too. In fact, I wanted to stay longer, but after 3 and a half years there, the revolution got in the way and I had to leave on an evacuation flight and leave most of my stuff there. It is a wonderful country and I've been waiting 20 years to go back and visit. I will always be glad I went to Iran when I did. I taught English there too. I worked in the language school section of the Bell Helicopter flight school at the army aviation base in Esfahan, Iran, one of the prettiest cities in the world. Then a few months off to travel and regroup and visit friends and family, and I went to work in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, where I stayed for 6 and a half years. Saudi Arabia was good too. We were on the Red Sea, which is beautiful, and there was a lot to see there, despite religious restrictions on many things, and we were well-paid and got frequent and long vacations. I taught English there, first in a military hospital, and later in a language school. Then about 13 years ago, I came to Barcelona. I've been working at the IEN (North American Institute) since, teaching, once again, English as a Foreign Language. I bought an apartment about 10 years ago and I think we're here to stay. I wouldn't mind working in another country for awhile maybe sometime, but I think I'd keep Barcelona as my home base any. We go back to the States usually every two years (I've had that pattern, since I first went overseas). I am really close to the family, despite being away most of the time for the past almost 30 years. We try to go home for about 6-8 weeks in the summer when we go. Last year, we went for Christmas, something we rarely do. In fact, I hadn't been back at Christmas for about 15 years. But we had snow, even got snowed in, and all the works and it was a great visit. I am really happy about email, as the hardest part about living so far away was that phoning was really expensive if you did it often, and writing is so hard to find time for. Now with email we're in regular contact and the distance seems much less. So, that's your answer. In answer to your other question: lots of, no. In Europe, lots of anything is unusual, especially space. But room, yes. Especially for good contacts in Alaska! If you are thinking of it, let me know. Have a nice Sunday. Stephen Barcelona Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 19:20:41 -0800 From: Linda Gudgel Finnell Subject: Reply to Stephen GUDGEL Hi Stephen- Thanks for the info. on Atlas Shrugged. Don't think it is osmething I'd want to get really deep into right now. I also wish we could get into some German Research on this family of GUDGEL/GOTTSCHALL(K), etc., however, we seem to be in a rut for the moment with our early PA records and before that we have only heresay. I'd like nothing better than to be able to make some progress in those areas. So in the meantime, I am content to try and finish a lot of loose ends I have on my own lines and others as well. Have you introduced yourself to the list? Please tell us what your areas of interest are in your search. And you say you are in Barcelona, (Spain?). Thanks again, Linda Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 22:42:54 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: A solicitation for your opinion. Lavada Peterson had this to say about my and her grandmother Emma Gudgel who came to California in 1930 with Opal and the the rest. "As I reflect on these memories of my strict, rigid grandmother I try to think of some of her positive qualities that I could apply to my own life. At first glance I did not find any. Perhaps I was dwelling too much on the, "Thou shalt nots", which permeated all areas of her life. but as I drew closer and looked at in a more positive light I discovered three qualities she passed on to me and which have enriched and benefited my life." Lavada said a lot more but I quote this to get those, old enough to remember, their grandmother who was born before 1900 and tell me what they think of that person. What was she like? The purpose is to get some letters on the subject and publish them in the next Newsletter in order to compare grandmothers of that day to this day and age. I will be making a request in the next Newsletter, coming out very soon, for those not on the internet to do the same. I hope we can get enough responses to give the Gudgels an idea of the change that has changed in grandmothers of then and now. So all you old fogies (Includes me of course) to sit down and take pen in hand or computer keyboard and write ralphj@eskimo.com and let's have some fun. Depending upon the response will determine whether I summarize or print each one individually. Probably a combination. Have a nice day. Doyal Gudgel Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:35:37 -0800 From: Linda Gudgel Finnell Subject: TIP #271 CHRISTMAS MEMORIES IN KENTUCKY Hi Folks- I wanted to share this with each of you. I really enjoyed it. Hope everyone is doing okay and guess we are all very busy getting ready for Christmas. Best Wishes to you all, Linda from Kentucky > >TIP #271 - CHRISTMAS MEMORIES IN KENTUCKY > >I am sitting here at the computer in Glasgow, Kentucky, watching the >forecast for possible snow flurries and the wind is exerting itself >strongly. As is my custom, I like to post around Christmas time on >something that would be like a gift to you, all of my faithful readers - >yet one of some genealogical value. Today my thoughts are of the coming >millenium and all that has happened in the world. But, that would be a too >far-reaching topic so let's narrow it down from 1792 to the present when >Kentucky became the Commonwealth of Kentucky. Now I'm not going to list all >the wars, county divisions, and statistical information. I'm thinking of >people; those known and hidden ancestors of ours who called Kentucky their >home during the past almost 207 years. What would happen if all these >family tree members of ours could spend one day here again? What if those >brave pioneers born in the 1700's could be "beamed dowm" for a 24 hour >period to where they used to live here in Kentucky? And, what if you and I >were appointed to gather our family together and try to explain what all >these strange sites were? > >Let's see - what HAS changed in 207 years? You're welcome to eavesdrop on >the conversation. > >Ah yes, we explain, the day of the old horse and wagons are long gone. >Those horses in the pasture? Oh, they're just used for pleasure riding or >for racing in the Kentucky Derby. Can they pull a plow? Well, no, but some >of them can pull a surrey and some look awfully fancy in all their finery >in the horse shows. Where are the steam boats? Well, you don't many of them >anymore unless it's in a special 4th of July celebration when the Belle of >Louisville races once again. No, there's not too many ferries left either - >there is one over there on the Green River outside Mammoth Cave. What's >that? Oh, that's just a jet plane going over flying someone from across the >continent to land at the Louisville Airport? And that strange looking >contraption? That's a helicopter. Police and hospitals used them a lot. And >that's a 2000 model Honda LX coming down the road. No, it's made in Japan >and goes about 65 miles an hour in speed zones. No, can't rightly say I've >seen a carriage for a long time ... except maybe in the 1992 bicentennial >festivities. > >Well, there are few cabins left in the county I think. Oh, that's a >condominium, and over there is an apartment building. The thing sticking >up in the ground. That's a satellite dish so we can see television from all >over the world. Television? We'll talk about that later! Do you want to >come inside? Oh, this is where your cabin used to be? How neat! That's ok, >come right on in. We call this the living room; no, not too many houses >have parlors or sitting rooms anymore. Ah, ah ... that's the bathroom .... >you know ... the replacement for the .... privy? And that's called the >bathtub. No, we don't have to heat water anymore and put it in a tub. Oh >yes, it's well used, people take baths or showers every day pretty much >anymore! Here's the kitchen; no, it's in the house now. Over there is a >microwave oven. Well, that's something that cooks food really quickly, just >takes a few minutes. There's the refrigerator. No, that's what keeps the >food cold now, that top part there is called a freezer and you can freeze >enough meat or tv dinners to last for a long time. Oh, that television >contraption? Here, let me turn it on for you. Don't be scared! That's CNN, >we can see news as it happens all over the world now. This station comes >from Louisville - yes, they're talking right now as we hear them. Oh, >here's the weather channel. We can now tell what the weather is going to be >all over the world for up to a week ahead of time. Let's head into the >bedroom - this is called the master bedroom. Go ahead and sit down on the >bed. Don't worry, it's meant to do that, it's a water bed! That's a radio, >it's sort of like a television without a picture. That? That's a clock, >tells us what time it is. No, not too many people have sundials any more. > >Yes, we have plenty of churches. Well, here's one thing that hasn't changed >too much over the years has it? It has? What's different? Oh, it's cool in >here because the air conditioning in on. That's a device that blows cool >air everywhere; when it gets a little colder the central heat will kick on. >No, there's no fireplaces anymore or old wood stoves. Hmmm... you like the >padded pews huh? No, they didn't have to chop any wood to carve out the >pews, machines make them now. Up there? That's a wide screen television so >people in the back can see the preacher if the church is packed. What? >That's the baptismal, we don't take people to the mill pond much anymore. >Sure is fancy isn't it? The preachers don't have to shout too much any >more, they have microphones to broadcast their voice all over. One thing >hasn't changed though ..the old time Gospel preaching churches are still >preaching the same message! > >I don't know when Crutcher's General Store was torn town. Now a lot of the >stores are all inside what's known as a mall. This is our big mall here in >town, has over 100 stores. It does look kinda strange to see trees growing >inside doesn't it? Why you can buy almost anything you need in one place >now. No, there's no pickle barrels around and haven't seen a spitoon since >I was a boy. Yes, everyone seems to be in a hurry don't they, not much time >for chatting anymore. > >I've shown you about everything that I can think of - those are telephone >lines so we can call everyone all over the world. Those are power lines - >all of our homes are electrified now at the flip of a switch. We keep those >old kerosene lanterns though in case of power losses. Candles are still >around; we use them for decorations. Oh, I forgot! Here's a computer. A >computer? That's awfully hard to explain. You turn it on and you can get >messages from people clear across the country in a matter of seconds. You >can read magazines and newspapers, get medical advice .... about everything >you can think of. > >Is there anything else you would like to see? Oh, yes; I should have >thought of that. Let's get in my car and I'll take you there. It's still >there although a lot are gone now. It's such a shame too, plowed under, >cattle grazing through them ... but yours is still there. Someone in the >family goes there as much as they can and keeps it all cleaned up. Here we >are - see we even have a sign with your name on it. If you like, I'll just >let you walk around by yourself if you'd like to be alone. Ok, I'll walk >with you if you like. Tell me about the people buried here. Were they your >friends? What happened to them? I promise that I won't forget what you tell >me; I'll write it down and save it for your great grandchildren of coming >generations. > >It is time to go now and as suddenly as our visitors appeared they are >gone. What changes they have witnessed; many they would never be able to >understand. You didn't have time to tell them that we've walked on the >moon, sent probes to Mars, have telescopes out in space. I chose not to >tell them about the wars, of children killing children in school, or >political matters. But, we have the chance to remember them and preserve >their memories. Every time we work on our family tree, take a photograph of >their old home, meet a distant cousin - we keep their names alive into the >21st century. > >Merry Christmas to all. Sandi > >(c) Copyright 16 December 1999, Sandra K. Gorin, All Rights Reserved. >sgorin@glasgow-ky.com > > Colonel Sandi Gorin > 205 Clements,Glasgow, KY 42141 > (270) 651-9114 or E-fax (707)222-1210 > Member Glasgow-Barren County Chamber of Commerce > > Gorin Genealogical Publishing: > >http://members.delphi.com/gorin1/index.html > >TIPS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Tips >KYBIOS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Bios >ARCHIVES: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >GORIN FAMILY WEBSITE: http://www.myfamily.com/home/home.asp > > > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 20:58:17 -0800 From: Linda Gudgel Finnell Subject: Recent GUDGEL Newsletter Hi Folks- Yesterday I received my quarterly issue of the GUDGEL Newsletter and I wanted to tell everyone how wonderful it is. It just gets better and better with each issue. We owe a great deal of thanks to Doyal GUDGEL for working so hard on this and he always comes through. This is my personal public thanks to you, Doyal . Great job. Some of you might not subscribe to the newsletter because you are on the list and feel you already know these stories, but you are wrong. The Newsletter contains lots of things we haven't had on the list. This newsletter is something that can be saved for our future generations. Something we can hand down. How I wish someone would have handed me something like this when I began my research many years ago. With each generation we lose so many personal family stories, legends, pictures, keepsakes, etc. if there isn't someone who will pass it on to the younger ones. We should all pledge to make an extra effort in the coming year to preserve something from our families so that they will know. Maybe some won't care, but I'll bet there will always be one whose interest is sparked in some way. And that one will carry on for all of us just as we are doing for our ancestors. Ancestors are not forgotten as long as someone remembers. So think about this Newsletter. It is a great way to begin the new Millenium and would also make a nice Christmas gift to one of your GUDGEL family members. And how about contributing something to the newsletter like Shirley Hall and Paul W. GUDGEL did? Personal stories are always interesting. Thanks Paul and Shirley for sharing. And then there's Bob GUDGEL and this mail List. Look how far we have come since it began....was it in 1998? This list has enabled so many cousins of this family to connect and share our research and interests. There's no way so many of us would have ever come into contact with each other without it. I am amazed how many of us there are when I thought growing up in Anderson Co., KY that there weren't any others. Boy, was I wrong . Bob- you deserve a hand also....if it weren't for you we'd still be thinking we were just about the only ones around. Thanks for all the work you do too. So I am going to get off my soapbox now . I just wanted to tell of my appreciation to these people who are contributing so much and I will be forever indebted to them. Hope everyone has a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. The Millenium is fast approaching and lets hope we can make some big strides this year with our old Andrew GUDGEL research ....we're due a big break I hope. My Best Wishes to Each Of You, Linda GUDGEL FINNELL Woodford Co., Kentucky Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 11:38:22 -0800 Subject: Connections Newsletter From: "Wm. E Gudgel" Doyal Gudgel, Great job on the newsletter. After reading each issue, I am intending to keep all newsletters in a permanent file for future reference so I really like the addition of the index on the front cover. The "Connection" will be a great research help in the future and the index will make it easier to find the particular issue I will be looking for. I like the way you set it up as a booklet too. I agree with Linda Gudgel Finnell, you need to get the Connections Newsletter (Booklet) even if you are on the Gudgel-list that Bob GUDGEL has set up and is running for us. Both in combination are great genealogy research helps. Great job Doyal Gudgel and Bob Gudgel, please keep up the good work. Thanks for your efforts. Bill Gudgel in Evansville, IN Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 18:33:53 -0800 From: Linda Gudgel Finnell Subject: Season's Musings Hi Folks- This came across another list and I thought it was sort of like "Food For Thought" for the coming holiday season. Linda > >In the hustle bustle of today's world the season has lost some of the >magic it once had. Today you see packages under the tree that were for >the most part bought and for the other part expensive. The more gifts >the better. Take a look at the ancestors we are tracking. What their >Christmas must have been like. > >Some of mine came over before 1700. What kind of life Christmas must >have been. There was not time for presents much less celebrating. >Every day must have be a celebration of just being alive for one more >year. The winters were horrible and people died. I am sure that there >was not much celebrating until the spring and it was for making it thru >the winter. > >Then things improved. Merriment became a part of life again, You were >lucky indeed if you had money to buy one gift for those special loved >ones. Most likely it would be a handmade gift from you to someone else. >If you lived far from any settlement that is most likely how you would >give gifts. A lot of love went into the gifts made by hand. From the >conception to the result would be a labor of love. > >If you happened to live on the prairie most likely you had no tree. >Just a gathering of the family to go over good and bad times of the >year. Most of all the gathering of the families were for the most part >the best of the season (as it should be today). > >I guess what I am trying to say is to remember our ancestors this >Christmas and the hardships that they went through. > >Season's Greeting and Happy Holidays >Glitz > > >==== ANDERSON Mailing List ==== > > > > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 07:57:24 -0800 Subject: MERRY CHRISTMAS Resent-Message-ID: <"PdXgX.0.Fz.iyCPu"@mx1> MERRY CHRISTMAS to all of my GUDGEL cousins, Tis the season to reflect on all of the good things of the year and I wanted to say a few grateful thanks to all of GUDGEL Cousins. Many of you have helped me in my search for my Genealogical line and I do appreciate your help. Like many who by accident or fate found the GUDGEL Web Site and the "Connections" Newsletter ... I thought my immediate family was the last of the Gudgel line. When I found all of you out there on our cyber connection I was surprised and elated. It was great to find and get to know ALL OF YOU. You are and always will be FAMILY. I look forward to talking to all of you and perhaps meeting you in person in the years to come. Again, MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL ... MAY ALL YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE. Bill Gudgel in Evansville, IN http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 11:35:24 -0400 From: jim.hall@ns.sympatico.ca (jim hall) Subject: Merry Christmas! Good Morning, everyone. Jim and I wanted to wish everyone of you the very Merriest of Christmases... It is so wonderful knowing that I have so many new family members and has really made this year very special for me. Hope one day to meet some of you. Have a wonderful day and enjoy.... Love to all, Shirley & Jim Hall and family. Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 08:00:53 -0800 From: Linda Gudgel Finnell Subject: CHRISTMAS WISHES TO EACH OF YOU Hi Folks- Merry Christmas to each of you this Christmas morning. We have a white Christmas in Kentucky this year, the first time in a long time. We hope each of you have a wonderful day with family and friends and that your New Year will be fruitful in every way. We have so many blessings for which to be thankful and one of my most treasured is all of my GUDGEL cousins. Happy Holidays, Gary and Linda GUDGEL FINNELL from cold and snow-covered Kentucky, Christmas Day, 1999. Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 22:35:10 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Gudgel Subject: Happy Cyber Christmas! Resent-Sender: gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com Well, we didn't have a white Christmas, but we certainly had one foggy Christmas eve! And, it's still REAL foggy here in Everett Washington. All the Christmas lights look kind of eerie through the fog. Merry Christmas and happy (almost) new year! boB Gudgel PS, there are some pictures that Connie Phillips sent that are up on the Gudgel FTP part of the web site accessable through the mail list page. (www.eskimo.com/~bgudgel/gudgel.htm) boB (again) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 13:23:49 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Gudgel Subject: Gudgel photos on the web site There may have been some confusion on how to get to the Gudgel photos from the Gudgel web site. Go directly to http://www.eskimo.com/~bgudgel/gudglist.htm and down a couple of paragraphs there is a link to all the photos. You can click on the file named "INDEX" and it is an index of what photo is what and who sent it. Usually, your web browser will let you do an "ftp://" kind of access which is what I had to use to access the photos. Let me know if you have a problem seeing them and I will try some kind of work around. The pictures are accessed using ftp because of technical reasons here at eskimo, and I get more space for the pictures by putting them in my ftp directory. Thanks and I hope your Christmas was great! boB Gudgel Everett, WA From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Linda's Back on-line Now! Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 00:43:23 -0500 Hi Folks- I've been down since Christmas Day and am now back online. Had major = problems but okay now, I hope. More later, Linda Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 08:58:36 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Gudgel Subject: Re. mass email on gudgel list Please try to refrain from sending mass email that says to forward to everyone you know to the Gudgel list, especially if it has nothing at all to do with a Gudgel. This one was a nice gesture I suppose, but for one, it had a HUGE header and forward list and 2, We have NO idea who it is for or about. A small poem or something is OK, but please try first to edit out all the HTML and headers etc. It gets hard to purge from the archive. Thanks and happy Y2K to all! boB (part of message) >>my best friends friend is very sick and wanted everybody to know >>>>that >>>>she would die soon. her last wish was to let everybody know about her >>>>illness etc. Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:04:00 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Gudgel Subject: Re. my last message about mass email Sorry, Instead of saying "to do with a Gudgel, I meant, "to do with Gudgels and/or genealogy" Thanks again, Bob Gudgel PS Welcome back Linda! >Please try to refrain from sending mass email that says to >forward to everyone you know to the Gudgel list, especially if >it has nothing at all to do with a Gudgel. Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:34:16 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: HI everyone. From Doyal Gudgel I think it is time to liven up this list. It has been very quiet lately. Kay's aunt is in a retirement center. ( Now that is lively isn't it?) She is 92 but sharp as a tack in most ways. Realizing she must divest herself of her things she has given Kay some of her treasured possessions. Among them was a book called Graded Memory Selections. (1904) She was a teacher for decades. It must have been treasured because it is in bad shape. The pages have come loose from the back if they are still there at all. She used this book to either read to her students or perhaps read for enjoyment. ( They must have been some students in those days!) Now "The Flintstones" is more like 4th grade category. The book is obviously well read. I have selected a couple poems and if anyone would like to comment on the meaning go for it. Both of the poems are in the 4th grade section. That in itself is mind blowing. Everyone knows of the "Little Boy Blue" poem I am pretty sure but think it worthwhile to reprint it for the benefit of the younger generation. It is just good reading. I had not read the "Bugle Song" before I saw it in her book. I thought some of you might like to comment on the meaning of what it says. I've never been much for poetry but these are special. The question I have is what did Tennyson mean when he said "our echoes roll from soul to soul, and grow forever and forever" Did he mean out actions have consequences forever and forever? Enjoy MEMORY SELECTIONS. BUGLE SONG. The splendor falls on castle walls And snowy summits old in story; The long light shakes across the lakes, And the wild cataract leaps in glory. Blow, bugle, blow ! set the wild echoes flying! Blow, bugle; answer, echoes---dying, dying, dying. 0 hark, 0 hear! how thin and clear, And thinner, clearer, farther going! 0 sweet and far, from cliff and scar, The horns of Elfland faintly blowing! Blow! let us hear the purple glens replying ! Blow, bugle; answer, echoes --- dying, dying dying ! O love ! they die in yon rich sky: They faint on hill, or field or river; Our echoes roll from soul to soul, And grow forever and forever. Blow, bugle, blow ! set the wild echoes flying And answer, echoes, answer --- dying,, dying, dying. Tennyson LITTLE BOY BLUE? ~ .... The little toy dog is covered with dust, But sturdy and stanch he stands; And the little toy soldier is red with rust, And his musket molds in his hands. Time was when the little toy dog was new, And the soldier was passing fair; And that was the time when our Little Boy Blue Kissed them and put them there. "Now, don't you go till I come," he said; "And don't you make any noise ! So toddling off to his trundle-bed He dreamed of the pretty toys; And as he was dreaming, an angel's song Awakened our Little Boy Blue- Oh, the years are many, the years are long, But the little toy friends are true. Ay, faithful to Little Boy Blue they stand, Each in the same old place, Awaiting the touch of a little hand, The smile of a little face. And they wonder, as waiting these long years through, In the dust of that little chair, What has become of our Little Boy Blue Since he kissed them and put them there -- Eugene Field. From: "Susie" Subject: the Gudgel Newsletter Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 17:57:41 -0800 To whom it may concern, I would like to subscribe to the Gudgel Newsletter for my father in law. Who do I send my address to? I cannot remember. Thanks!!! Susanne Gudgel Las Vegas, NV From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: New Year's Wishes Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 21:47:54 -0500 Hi Everybody- Well, I am now officially back online after my pre-Y2K crash. On Christmas Day my system crashed and I really believe it was a virus. = I had just installed a new scanner and that began the whole thing. For = 4 1/2 days I had no computer--I was going nuts! With the help of my friend, Steve, I now have practically a new system = with including the McAfee Virus Scan--which BTW is wonderful. It = detected a virus called "Pretty Worm". Believe me when I say I am not the exploring type when it comes to my = computer. If this came in on an attachment to an email then it had been = setting there in a temp file for some time. I almost never open = attachments even when I know who it's from, especially since all of this = virus business came into being. So, according to McAfee, it was = imported from France about May of '99, detected on the internet in June = '99 and apparently Christmas Day was the day it was to activate. I = never want to go through this again. Steve has worked on this computer = inside and out for 3 days and we finally are clean and running. I guess = if it had to happen it was good it happened before Y2K because I have = everything upgraded, more memory, a new second hard drive, and it's = purring like a cat. Hopefully I won't have any more problems with Y2K = but I'm not taking anything for granted yet . I have to applaud any of you that can get into the works of a computer. = Steve was doing things and going into places I didn't even know existed = in a computer. He's a funeral director by profession but I am not so = sure he hasn't "missed his calling" as they say. He just says he loves = doing things with a computer. He's sure good and I'm glad. So on to other things...... What's everyone doing for the New Year? Anyone got party plans? = Personally, we'll be staying home and hoping the clock will tick right = on past midnight with no problems. There so much hype about what could = happen and I hope they are wrong. Guess we'll see. One thing for = sure...I think there's a lot of people out there getting rich off of = this Y2K thing.=20 I have planned a day off January 18th (Tues.) to go to the new KY = History Center for a day of research...for me! I'm long overdue for a = good research trip somewhere. Anyone else got plans any way soon? My youngest daughter and a group fo friends are in Nashville tonight for = the Music City Bowl Game between the Univ. of KY and Syracuse. We lost = (13 to 20 I think) but I am sure they had a good time. We watched it on = ESPN. Anyone got any New Year's resolutions? Hope each of you have a wonderful New Year and that all our computer's = will survive :) Linda from cold and clear Kentucky.=20 From: "Gardner Gudgel" Subject: A passing Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 18:54:11 -0800 I'd like to let everyone know the passing away of my mother, Geraldine Williams Gudgel, wife of the late Boyd Gudgel, mother of Boyd Jr. and Gerald, in Louisville, KY on the 11th of December. Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 20:17:11 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson To: Susie , gudgel list Subject: Newsletter You may send address and 18.00 to me Doyal Gudgel 3314 NE 182nd St. Lake Forest Park WA 98155 A little information about your family would be appreciated. Happy New Year Doyal. From: EGudgel@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 17:09:15 EST Subject: Re: New Year's Wishes To: lfinnell@lex.infi.net Hi from Florida. Sunny and warming up ... should be in low 80's by New Years. We will see the 2000s come in at our annual duplicate bridge party here. We will go to our timeshare on January first on Sanibel Island with my in-laws the Whites ED G. Fort Myers FL Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:49:31 -0900 From: Dianne Subject: Re: New Year's Wishes The New Year in Alaska will be very cold--minus 85 degrees wind chill in some parts of rural Alaska. But in Anchorage it will be only zero or so and the town is planning a very big celebration which will be televised at 4 am eastern time on Public TV. Now if you won't wait up and watch for me on TV (like any of you know what I look like), then program your VCR for the hr before midnight Alaska time and watch it during the football commercials later. Our celebration starts with the whole downtown blocked off and a candlelight parade from our 9th Ave park strip to town which is only a few blocks away along 6-4th streets. With our winter clothes it should be fun and warm. The convention center will have continual and rotating performing artists from Latino dance bands to Thai dancers to jazz to folk guitar musicians. We can dance, listen or even join in with them or the drum circles which will occur there and across the street in the three performing arts theaters in our large performing arts building. Another large building a few blocks away will hold more events. The town square park which sits between the convention center and performing arts building will be lighted up, as will most of the core downtown with daylight-like lights--so they say. Such light should really bring out the detail on the intricate ice sculptures that award winning ice artists have been working on all week. Every hour on the hour from about 7pm a huge TV screen outside will broadcast new yrs in each time zone across the US starting of course with NY. Then we will be last to be with TV crews filming from PBS and CNN, I understand. We will ring in the new century outside and inside where an 8 foot in diameter drum has been prepared for use in the ceremony in conjuntion with the many drumming groups including the famous King Island Eskimo dancers. I managed to get some free drum heads (no bodies, just the plastic heads) at our local drum shop (free) and with wood spoons we will join in the festivities. Loren, our son, thinks that is stupid, but I will carry them all in my backpack anyway and if he won't join in, then I'll hand them out to kids. There will be two sets of fireworks, one at 7:30 pm for the families who can't stay late, and again at midnight. I may have to find a way to shoot off my carefully selected stash of illegal fireworks earlier in the day or the next. I would not want them to go to waste since I have had them since fall and got them on sale 50% off. No, I certainly can't let them go to waste. Anchorage's event should draw 20,000 they say and the cost is a whopping $8 per person for a lapel button which gets us in to every event all night! Before the parade, we will have friends from the past 20 yrs (like ghosts from Christmas past?) over to the house to eat and look at old silent movies of when we were all less gray and the kids were toddlers. Dianne Gudgel-Holmes Anchorage Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 18:24:41 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Gudgel Subject: Geraldine passing and happy new year First, Gardner, I'm sorry your mother passed away recently. That must be tough, especially right before Christmas too. I hope You're doing OK. And, Dianne, we'll watch for you on TV. You know, drums work MUCH better with the actual drum attatched to the drum head. Be good or we'll bannish you to sunny Florida with Ed. >>(Dianne wrote) >>But in Anchorage it will be only zero or so and the town is planning a >>very big celebration Hope all have a great new century//millenium (whenever it REALLY starts) and we end the 1900s with 55 subscribers to the Gudgel list! Whoopee! (we end the 1900s with mail lists, period.) Thank you ALL for your great input and contributions to the list. Remember that if you ever have ANYTHING to contribute/talk about/question, feel free to speak up here. You can always go to the archived versions too, for research. Happy new year and try to stay away from the drunk drivers friday night. Bob Gudgel Everett Washington Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 07:36:28 -0800 From: "Wm. E Gudgel" Subject: Unidentified subject! Hello to all of my GUDGEL cousins, A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL ... AND A WISH FOR MANY MORE. Bill GUDGEL in Evansville, IN Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 13:34:06 -0800 From: C R Phillips Subject: Passed away Mary Ruth Gudgel Hasselbring passed away yesterday.( Born Nov.13, 1912, died on Dec. 31, 1999) She was the last living child of Morton and Effie Gudgel and our Aunt. A small service will be held in Grand Rapids, MI on Thursday of this week, and the burial will be in Illinois Saturday, where her husband and parents are buried. She had one son Charles Morton that passed away this year, and 4 Grandchildren and I believe 8 Great Grandchildren. Her mind was still good as ever and had such a memory. Her Granddaughter Terri said Aunt Ruth's memory was better than hers. From gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com Sat Jan 1 14:11:26 2000 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx2.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id OAA25153; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:10:23 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:10:23 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: eskimo.com: bgudgel owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:04:44 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Gudgel Reply-To: Bob Gudgel To: starmon@televar.com cc: gudgel-list@eskimo.com Subject: Attached files to mail list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"Ab08q2.0.q86.BjdRu"@mx2> Resent-From: gudgel-list@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1216 X-Loop: gudgel-list@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com I just wanted to re iterate about attached files sent to the gudgel mail list. They don't work very well and are VERY hard (usually) to purge from the archive. Also, may I suggest when sending a picture file (not to the mail list please) that it be in a JPEG or otherwise compressed format because bit maps like .BMP files are VERY big but will normally compress greatly if zipped up with winzip or pkzip of whatever. Just an FYI and I hope everyone is finding themselves Y2K compliant. Connie, Sorry about the passing of your Aunt. A lot of this it seems lately, and right after Gardner's mother, too. Hopefuly, 2000 will be a slower year for this kind of thing. boB From: "Susie" Subject: passed away Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 19:11:07 -0800 Dear Connie, Sorry to hear about Mary Ruth's passing. It is always toughest for = those who are left behind. Our prayer's are with you and your family. =20 Sincerely,=20 The Gudgel's of Las Vegas: Ernest, Susanne, Lauren, and Jacob. From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Passed Away Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:32:58 -0500 Connie and Gardner- I am very sorry to hear about your (Connie's) Aunt Ruth and your = (Gardner's) mother, Geraldine's passing. Know that our thoughts and = prayers are with you both and your families. It's never easy letting go of loved ones. At a later date I hope both of you will share the obits with Doyal to = add to the next newsletter to let those not online know of their = passing. =20 Regards, Linda GUDGEL FINNELL from Kentucky Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 10:02:12 -0500 From: Stephen Gudgel Subject: Re. my last message about mass email Thank you to Bob Gudgel for his message about mass mailings. I had just read the last "message in question" and was so fed up I was ready to write the same request. I can't stand messages that tell me I need to send to X number of people or to everyone I know, with threats for not doing so, and/or warnings of consequences. My suggestion is that we never include the Gudgel mailing list on any other group mailing we send out. That way we won't have people just mailing to anyone they find on a list, whether they've heard of them or not. Thanks. Stephen Gudgel Barcelona Subject: Re: message about mass email Amen Dianne Gudgel-Holme From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Just Stuff Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 12:44:23 -0500 Hi Guys- I'm home today playing nurse to my youngest daughter who just had all = four wisdom teeth extracted. They never get too big to want ole' Mom = around to give a little TLC . She goes back to class at UK in one week so she should be in pretty good = shape by then. But today,,,she looks like a little chipmunk. Later,=20 Linda Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 00:02:50 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: Who is the oldest Gudgel? I'm looking for the oldest living Gudgel. If they weren't born before 4/30/1917, they aren't the oldest. So put on your thinking cap and send me the details. From: GudgelDoc@cs.com Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:41:03 EST Subject: Death of Allen McGlothlin To: ralphj@eskimo.com, gudgel-list@eskimo.com My Uncle Allen Mcglothlin passed away 2 days before thanksgiving in Gracemont Oklahoma. He is the Husband of Geneva (Gudgel) Mcglothlin, still living in Gracemont. For those with a family tree. Geneva is the oldest daughter of Lewis Allen Gudgel (son of Calvin Gudgel) Allen and Geneva have lived their entire lives in Gracemont Oklahoma. Gracemont is located in SW Oklahoma about 60 miles SW of Oklahoma City. Geneva was born in 1918, I believe. Larry Gudgel From: Doukel@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 02:42:34 EST Subject: Oldest Gudgel Hi All--- I thought I'd mention my grandmother, Mary Evelyn Gudgel Wood, in our search for the oldest living Gudgel. She was born 9/26/1913 in Boggy Depot, Oklahoma. Hope everyone had a great holiday season, and best wishes for a wonderful year 2000. Kellee Meyer From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Oldest GUDGEL Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:41:09 -0500 Hi Folks- I've been thinking and checking my data files. I don't believe there = are any GUDGEL's in Kentucky who would qualify for the oldest GUDGEL. I = think they have all either died off or gone West . Actually there are more GUDGEL's in the Western part of the U.S. than = there are anywhere else I think. But they all started out in PA ...then = KY...then to IL, IN and MO....and just kept going.......(makes me think = about the Duracell Bunny commercial). :) It would be nice to find the oldest living GUDGEL and interview them = about what they know about this family, what family stories were handed = down, etc. That's all for now. Linda From: "Jennette A. Gudgel" To: "Bob Gudgel" Subject: Oldest Gudgel Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:56:53 -0600 These messages re the oldest Gudgel opens a question I have had for many = years. Do the Gudgels--particularly the men--tend to have a short life span? My grandfather, Jesse Andrew Gudgel, died in his mid fifties. He had 4 = sons, 3 died in their fifties and the youngest died in his early 70s (which I, = at 64, consider young. :-) Would be interested to know if this is a pattern. Obviously, old Andrew = wouldn't have fit the pattern. Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 13:02:09 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: Members Thanks Mary G for the subscription request for your father in Law ED. Gudgel of Tracy CA. I am sending the last issue to him as I no longer have the others. Sorry to have to go to the list for this but I would like a list of your husbands brothers and sisters. Ed's genealogy was fine. I will fill it in. Linda Gudgel Finnell is the one to know the connection to old Andrew if anyone would. I would like your email address if possible. I have no way of knowing which one it is on the list. Have a nice day. Roses are still blooming here. ( a little) Cala lillies still green. Wow Doyal Gudgel From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Oldest GUDGEL's Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 00:45:06 -0500 Jeanette- You brought up a question that I have pondered a long time. My GUDGEL = families haven't lived to be really old either. My father died at 64 (breathing problems, asthma, emphysema My father's brother and sister died in early to mid thirties (she with a brain tumor) . My grandfather died at 40 or 41 (Ulcerative Colitus (sp?) My great grandfather died at 21 (Typhoid Fever). I have wondered about the genes of this family for some time, especially = after I had children of my own. How about some of you others? Is there a pattern here? Linda (from chilly, but no snow, Kentucky). From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Meaning of "Removed Cousins"? Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:34:04 -0500 Hi Folks- Someone has asked me what it means when someone says they are "6th = cousins, once removed". Can anyone explain to me (in very simple terms) = what this means? I have never understood this "removed" thing . Thanks, Linda Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 09:43:51 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: Re: Meaning of "Removed Cousins"? > Linda Gudgel Finnell wrote: > > Hi Folks- > > Someone has asked me what it means when someone says they are "6th cousins, > once removed". Can anyone explain to me (in very simple terms) what this > means? I have never understood this "removed" thing . > > Thanks, > Linda My first Newsletter gave an explanation. I will read it again and see if I can figure it out. Doyal Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 10:01:02 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: Re: Meaning of "Removed Cousins"? > Linda Gudgel Finnell wrote: > > Hi Folks- > > Someone has asked me what it means when someone says they are "6th cousins, > once removed". Can anyone explain to me (in very simple terms) what this > means? I have never understood this "removed" thing . > > Thanks, > Linda The removed bit. Your fathers brother is your uncle. His first cousin is your first cousin once removed. In other words the previous generation. The generation before that would be twice removed. I think I am right on this. The son of a cousin is a second cousin. The son of a second cousin is a third cousin. The removed part depends upon which generation prior to yours. Doyal Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 18:25:59 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: Who did this? Just asking. Who was it that sent the picture of Thomas Jefferson Gudgel to the Gudgel list. It is either a tinted enlargement or a painted picture when he was about 16 it looks like. I am sure whoever it was gave an explanation but where it is now would be hard to find. I have a similar picture of him and Sarah Jones Gudgel which was done after they were married. It is in bad shape however. The picture above is in excellent condition. I'm just curious because I am sure we are related (That's a joke) Of course we're related. I'd like to know the history of the picture. Doyal Gudgel From: Bob Gudgel Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:46:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Picture of Thomas J. Gudgel The picture of Thomas Jefferson Gudgel was one sent by Bill Webb. (TJGudgel.JPG) I think he's still subscribed to the gudgel list. He sent quite a few pictures but I should probably put more info in the INDEX about these pix. boB From: "William \"Bill\" Webb" To: "Bob Gudgel" , Subject: Re: Picture of Thomas J. Gudgel Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:16:48 -0600 Hi all, I am still here. Spending most of my time searching for TIDWELL and WEBB Family - and enjoying the GUDGEL discussion from the sideline. Concerning the picture of Thomas Jefferson I submitted - it is an 8x10 that my late Mother had in her possession. If I have my story right (and Shirley Denny could confirm or refute this) is the original of this picture is in Shirley's possession. My Mother and Shirley's husband's Mother used to correspond about the Gudgel Family. I am under the assumption that my Mother got the original and had a copy made or someone had a copy made and got it to Mother. I am not really sure. Shirley could probably shed some more light on it. But it was a picture of him when he was about 16 years old. If there are any other pictures of Thomas Jefferson around I would be eternally grateful to get a copy. This is the only one I have. And I can send copies of this one to any one interested. If I can be of any help on information about the pictures I submitted - please let me know. Bill From: DenneyRes@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:41:31 EST Subject: picture of Thomas J. Gudgel Yes, I have the original. It belonged to Elma Harris Denney, daughter of Mollie Gudgel Harris. When Elma died it went to E.J. Denney, her son, my husband's brother. We now have it. To me, it appears to be a charcoal drawing on rugged paper pasted on rugged, fragile cardboard. The (blue) eyes and checks are tinted. That is all I know about the picture. Hope everyone is having a great New Year. We came back from D.C. and first load of wash had plumbing problems and water damage in the hall. Not as bad as last year, though, the van was stolen. Think we are now back to routine. Shirley Denney From: "Kim Gudgel" Subject: Old Age Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:34:14 -0800 Happy New Year everyone! It looks like we are all starting to communicate again after the = great holidays. Unfortunately we can't claim any records for the oldest = still living, but longevity is better from our side of the clan. Everett Dale Jr, my dad died at 73 of a heart attack and his father = Everett Sr, died at 83 of cancer. =20 For ailments, dad had a heart click (similar to a murmur) and = grandpa Gudgel was deaf using a hearing aid since the 1940's. I seem to = be in good health, except for the Gudgel pooch that seems to plague us = all around our midrift. =20 Kim (Marysville Wa, Part of the NorthWestern Branch) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:22:19 -0900 From: Dianne To: Kim Gudgel Subject: Re: Old Age& name of person, please Dear cousins, I appreciate knowing the health stats for our families as that is of special interest to me and goes along with a former career as well, but it would help if ya'll would put full names and maybe even a rough date of death or something so we could identify the actual person being referred to. Thanks, Dianne Gudgel-Holmes Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:19:38 -0500 From: Linda Finnell Subject: Unidentified GUDGEL's Hi Everybody-- I haven't had much time lately to get into my research so I got in my Unidentified GUDGEL file and here are a couple of questions for you. >From a book: Warrick Co., IN Cemetery Inscriptions, Vol. 4, Boon Township and Boonville- 1991 by Kristine Manley and Sharon Patmore: John GUDGEL is buried in the Maple Grove Cemetery in Boonville, IN, born 21 Aug 1906, died 23 Dec 1966. Has a WWII marker. Who is the John GUDGEL? **************************************************************** I entered this on the list in June of 1999 but never had a response. Maybe with some of the new subscribers someone can identify this man: Obit received about 1993 or 1994 from Karen BROWN, dau. of Gaylen GOTTSCHALK (maybe in Iowa?). Brief notes: Floyd GUDGELL, age 85, of Fullerton, died April 10, 1993 at the Nebraska Veteran's Home in Grand Island. Born Oct. 7, 1907 in Meadville, MO to Elmer and Artie (CHINN) GUDGELL. Attended schools in Meadville. Oct. 19, 1935 he marr. Alma Thomson of Chillicothe, MO. They lived in Illinois, Missouri and Nebraska while he worked for the Sutherland Lumber Co. for 37 years. Served in U.S. Navy during WWII. In 1977 they moved to Fullerton where he worked with his dau. and son-in-law at the Gambles store for 12 years. Mrs. GUDGELL died Feb. 16, 1988. For the past 2 years Mr. GUDGELL resided at the Nebraska Veteran's Home in Grand Island. Survivors include one daughter, Betty KERMOADE of Fullerton; one brother, Donald of Van Buren, Ark.; one sister, Velda HOWELL of San Francisco; 2 grandchildren and one great granddaughter. Besides his wife he was preceded in death by one sister. Anyone know who this fella was? If anyone wants a more detailed obit, let me know. **************************************************************** I have been trying to find where this Floyd GUDGELL fits in this tree for a good number of years with no luck. Anyone know? So what's everyone been up to? Been sort of quiet lately....but I have a nice research day coming up Tuesday. I am taking a day for me and going to the new KY History Center to research. It opened in April 1999 and I was there opening day with no time to research so I am going to spend the whole day. They tell me the research library is so much better since they moved it from the old library. BTW, I got a digital camera and a scanner for Christmas (from my dear sweet hubby), and am soon going to try it out. I'd like to send some area pictures from Kentucky to the list. Would welcome any ideas of things you'd like to see from here. One picture I'd like to send is the old CROSSFIELD mansion. I took some great shots a couple of years ago. Hope I can figure out how to do this : ) I forgot one thing. Yesterday was my birthday and tomorrow is my brother's birthday. Happy Birthday to Sam GUDGEL, my "older" brother . And we won't discuss years....anymore we are just glad we are still having birthdays. Bye for now, Linda-- from unseasonably warm Kentucky....can it last? We've been so lucky so far. Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 20:54:01 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson To: lfinnell@lex.infi.net, gudgel list Subject: Re: Unidentified GUDGEL's This john Had the correct dates John Edward Gudgel dau Mary Del Gudgel Wife Harriet Lloyd Hopkins Father John Franklin Gudgel Mother Margaret Lyceda G Edward Thomas Gudgel Wife Elizabeth Blythe William Gudgel Lucinda Thurman Linda Finnell wrote: > > Hi Everybody-- > > I haven't had much time lately to get into my research so I got in my > Unidentified GUDGEL file and here are a couple of questions for you. > <> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 1980 19:28:20 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson To: Bob Gudgel Now that the list has been in operation for some time could you come up with a story on what the Internet has done for knowledge of Gudgels? You would have a month or six weeks to come up with something. Maybe some problems. Anything you want to talk about. Picture too if you need some. Dad Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 00:03:15 -0500 From: Linda Finnell Subject: More Unidentified GUDGEL's I've been digging around again and have a couple of items to run by you guys in hopes someone will identify these cousins and help me clear out a very small portion of my stacks : ) I have reference to the following: Index to Biographical Sketches of Illustrated Atlas of Posey Co., IN, 1900: GUDGEL, J.D., M.D. page 18 Does anyone have this? **************************************************************** Blue Ridge Cemetery, Polk Co., Nebraska: GUDGEL, Carl b. May 14, 1904 d. June 28, 1904 (infant) GUDGEL, Hettie L. b. 1867 d. 1931 (64 yrs. old) GUDGEL, John b. November 9, 1858 d. March 21, 1900 (42 yrs. old) GUDGEL, Rebecca b. July 6, 1836 d. May 7, 1898 (62 yrs. old) GUDGEL, Ross A. b. 1892 d. 1918 (26 yrs. old) GUDGEL, Stephen A. b. 1864 d. 1949 (85 yrs. old) Linda- from Blustry and cold Kentucky. Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 00:42:29 -0500 From: Linda Finnell Subject: Oops! Figured out part of it! I went back and figured out who some of the persons were that are interred in the Blue Ridge Cemetery, Polk Co., NE: Stephen A. GUDGEL (son of Frances Marion GUDGEL and Rebecca VALENTINE) and his wife, Hettie Lenore HOWER. Carol and Ross GUDGEL are their sons. Who are the John GUDGEL and Rebecca GUDGEL also buried in this cemetery? Also, there are HOWER's in this same cemetery. Are these related to Hettie Lenore HOWER GUDGEL: HOWER, Alpheus J. b. 1856 d. 1895 HOWER, Bruce b. Dec. 26, 1908 d. April 14, 1911 HOWER, Elizabeth b. 1833 d. 1914 HOWER, Isaac L. b. 1824 d. 1907 Thanks, Linda Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 22:29:26 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: Wanted I am again working on the next issue of the Gudgel Newsletter and Genealogy Journal. I would like to invite anyone on the Gudgel-list to submit a family story or something on your genealogy. Your story can become a permanent record in a library as the letter goes to several libraries. Who knows, someone on the list may have some information you need. Of course those on the List might have already heard it. On the other hand they might have forgotten. Gudgels like to know of the other Gudgels. This is one way you can oblige their curiosity. Don't forget we are still looking for the oldest Gudgel. How about the Gudgels who have been married the longest? Send in you nomination. Valentines Day is coming up and I'll give a free subscription to the longest married couple. That might be me though as my 59th is coming up soon. We'll announce it in the Journal. The winner will get the next Newsletter. Doyal Gudgel From: Doukel@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 14:44:50 EST Subject: Oldest Gudgel and longest married Gudgel Hi All--- My grandmother Mary Evelyn Gudgel Wood was born September 26, 1913 (she's 86 years old) and she and my grandfather, I.W. Wood, have been married for over 66 years (married on December 2, 1933). I may have already sent this info to the list. Kellee From: "Nancy Miller" To: , Subject: Re: J.D. Gudgel, M.D. Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:26:20 -0800 Linda, I wonder if that middle initial could be wrong. There was a James Edward Gudgel that practiced medicine in Cynthiana (Posey Co.) for 55 years, according to Robert E. Turman in his "Genealogy Newspaper Columns". This J. E. (M.D.) Gudgel 10 Mar 1858 - 17 Sep 1938, is buried in Liberty Cemetery, Smith Township, Posey Co. He was the son of Andrew and Elvira Wallace Gudgel. Andrew was the son of William and Lucy Thurman Gudgel. I have never seen the book you reference, but since the above J.E. Gudgel was so prominent in Posey Co. and was a doctor of medicine, it seems likely he is the one indexed. Turman's book goes on with more details about his medical training and where his office was. If anyone is interested, I can copy it to the list. Is anyone descended from him? He had four children, two dying in infancy and buried with him and his first wife in Liberty Cemetery. Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Linda Finnell To: Gudgel-List@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, January 15, 2000 9:03 PM Subject: More Unidentified GUDGEL's >I've been digging around again and have a couple of items to run by you >guys in hopes someone will identify these cousins and help me clear out >a very small portion of my stacks : ) > >I have reference to the following: > From: DenneyRes@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:41:33 EST Subject: longest married Gudgel - J.D. Gudgel, M.D.- Newletter Kellee - so this is where you fit in. Do your grandparents still live at Boggy Depot? 66 years, what a very long time. Wonderful. Nancy Miller - We're not descended from J.D. Gudgel, M.D., but I, for one, would love to read the information about his office and medical training in Truman's book. Unless it is a huge project for you. Doyal - You are making the newletter interesting, and it does look great. Shirley Denney Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:37:32 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson To: Doukel@aol.com Subject: Re: Oldest Gudgel and longest married Gudgel Yep they are in the running for the free Newsletter. I haven't seen Spud for years and years. Doyal G Doukel@aol.com wrote: > > Hi All--- > > My grandmother Mary Evelyn Gudgel Wood was born September 26, 1913 > (she's 86 years old) and she and my grandfather, I.W. Wood, have been married > for over 66 years (married on December 2, 1933). I may have already sent > this info to the list. > > Kellee Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:36:14 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: Gudgel Cemetery Does anyone have a list of the people buried in the little cemetery on the Andrew Gudgel farm. The old homestead. I have these names but there are more. Andrew Gudgel Elizabeth Gudgel Nancy Teel William Teel. Thanks Doyal From: "Nancy Miller" To: "Ralph Johnson" , Subject: Re: Gudgel Cemetery Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 21:58:44 -0800 Besides the ones you mentioned there are: Samuel L. Teel 20 Dec 1849 - 09 Aug 1851 Oscar J. Summers 11 Aug 1855 - 29 Sep 1856 William Gudgel 11 Feb 1801 - 22 Jan 1877 Lucindia Gudge 12 Dec 1806 - 09 May 1887 The above is the way they are listed in the Montgomery Township Cemetery book, p.99. Nancy Teel Miller From: Gudgeld@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:05:27 EST Subject: Gudgel Cemetery Doyal; I visited the Gudgel Cemetery last summer and have the list of people buried there and photos of all the stones. Some are on pretty bad shape. I am pretty busy right now, but will send the list later today. Dave Gudgel From: Gudgeld@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:20:03 EST Subject: Gudgel Cemetery Doyal; Sorry, I read your note and responded before I read the response from Nancy. Her list looks complete. The only additions I would make is that Oscar J. Summers stone reads "Oscar J son of DL and LC Summers" Lucinda's stone reads Lucinda Gudgel. There also appear to be a number of unmarked graves there, but I don't know who they are. Dave Gudgel Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:48:36 -0500 From: Linda Finnell Subject: Dr. James Edward GUDGEL Hi folks- I just received via email a picture of Dr. J.E. GUDGEL who practived medicine in Cynthiana, IL. He lived in Posey Co., IN and died there. It's a really good picture. Now to figure out how to send it to the GUDGEL page. My daughter has promised to give me some lessons on how to scan and send pictures . I have a lot of things I want to send but will have to wait till I know what I'm doing! Isn't this new technology wonderful? Linda Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:57:41 -0500 From: Linda Finnell Subject: Dr. J.E. GUDGEL My typing is getting terrible! The message before should have said Dr. GUDGEL practiced medicine in Cynthiana, IN, not IL. Sorry, Linda ii Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:00:40 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Gudgel Subject: Dr. James Edward GUDGEL (pictures) Yes, this technology is just great (if you can figure out how to use it). My regular old scanner is out of commission at the moment because I put a new mother board in Pennys computer and it doesn't like the old scanner card (scsi). HOWEVER, FYI, I just bought a Scanrom-4E scanner that does up to 4X6 inch photos AND negatives and slides. This works great! I scanned 80 negatives this weekend from my old high school stash and it worked very good. The scanner was only $70 and should work nicely for my B&W negative needs at least. Color negatives take a little more work because you have to fool with the colors to get it just right. But they scan too. boB From: "Nancy Miller" Subject: Dr. Gudgel Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:45:54 -0800 I think there may be some confusion over the two sons of Andrew and Elvira Wallace Gudgel who both became doctors. The John Franklin Gudgel married Cynthia Anna Baldwin in 1875 and died, I believe in 1901. This is the one that Jennette is talking about. I have one son listed for him, Harry B., who is also listed as a Dr. The other doctor son was James Edward and he married Elizabeth T. "Lizzie" Smith in 1886 and he didn't die until 1938. He was a long time resident of Posey Co., and he is the one that Linda has a picture of (right, Linda?). I know that it is confusing when you have Dr. J. F. and Dr. J. E. both with the same parents, but I think that the earlier demise of J.F. got him out of the picture and out of prominence in Posey Co. So Jannette, are you descended from Harry B. Gudgel, or did they have another son that I don't know about? Nancy Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:45:17 -0500 From: Linda Finnell Subject: Unidentified GUDGEL's and other stuff Well, I'm guess I'm on a roll! Today was a state holiday for me and I have spent the biggest part of the day filing and tossing. Actually I have finished reorganizing my notebook and posting new info. to my database on Abraham GUDGEL. I had to start somewhere and now I will go on to another. I received an email in Feb 1999 from Trent GUDGEL, an attorney in Tulsa, OK. He knew a little about his ancestors but not enough that I can place him. If someone can help me out I will contact him again with more concrete details. He says: He was b. 1963 in Tulsa, married to Lori, and has 3 children. He has 2 brothers: Thomas H. GUDGEL, III, and Troy W. GUDGEL, both of whom are married and live in Tulsa also. Trent's father is Thomas H. GUDGEL, Jr., and his mother's name is Becky. They also live in Tulsa. His grandfather was Thomas H. GUDGEL, deceased, who was born outside of Sherman, Texas in 1910. He thinks his grandfather had two brothers and four sisters but can't remember all their names. One was named John. Trent's grandmother's firs name was Zoie who was living in Tulsa in Feb. 1999. Trent's father had one brother, John H. GUDGEL, who was living in Tulsa in Feb'99. John H. is married to Pat. (Note from Linda-I have one Thomas H. GUDGEL who was b. in IN in 1849 but that is too far back. Anyone know of this family?) ***************************************************************** We talked about this some time ago but I never figured out where this GUDGEL goes: John D. GUDGELL, d. March 26, 1888. Married Lucinda Sophia HAYWOOD June 10, 1866. Their children were: Spencer GUDGELL-b. June 13, 1872 Fred GUDGELL-b. June 22, 1878 Jennie GUDGELL-b. May 11, 1880 John served with Co. F, 3rd Iowa Cavalry. A witness on some of his pension papers was Cynthia A. GUDGELL, who was 82 on July 4, 1888. Another signature was B.F. GUDGELL and Maria GUDGELL. These people lived around Keokuk, Iowa (maybe Fairfield?) but filed in Keokuk. (note from Linda-this must have been John GUDGEL, husband of Cynthia Ann BROWN GUDGELL. B.F. GUDGELL would have been their son, Benjamin Franklin GUDGELL, and his wife, Mariah FARRINGTON. I didn't have John's middle initial as "D.". Anyone know what it stood for or if this is the right John GUDGELL? ***************************************************************** That's all for now. Going to the History Center tomorrow is the weather is okay. TTYL, Linda from sleeting and rainy Kentucky Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 07:56:17 -0500 From: Linda Finnell Subject: My brick wall is crumbling!!!!-GUDGELL's Hi Folks- Thanks to Doyal and his info. about pension records of John D. GUDGELL I have begun to break through my brick wall with my Missouri GUDGEL's!!!! I have had all of this data filed away because I couldn't make a connection and when he mentioned the children of John D. GUDGELL and Lucinda Sophia Haywood that seemed to open a door!! I had no info. on John D. except a name and year of birth. The names of 2 of their children Spencer and Jennie were names I kept finding in Livingston Co., MO but had no idea where they fit. Now it is beginning to make sense!! Thanks Doyal- you've made my day : ) Questions on this family-Where were John D. GUDGELL and Lucinda Sophia HAYWOOD married? Does anyone have any info. on her (b. and d. dates?) Where is this family buried? ************************************************************** Re:Notes from Joe Weiss, Indianapolis, IN, who answered a query for me: Liberty Cemetery, Smith Twp., Posey Co., IN listings for GUDGEL: GUDGEL, J.E. (M.D.) Mar. 10, 1858 - Sept. 17, 1938 GUDGEL, Lizzie T. (SMITH), his wife, July 15, 1863 - April 18, 1919 (maiden name: Elizabeth Temporance SMITH) Margery, their dau.- Nov. 1, 1895 - May 31, 1896 Eva, their dau.- Oct. 18, 1886 - Feb. 22, 1890 (other children: Helen 1897, Harold, 1888) (note from Linda-I had Helen listed but not Harold. I had Howard and am wondering if this was the same son-probably not as the birth year was off 1 year). Mr. Weiss also included this cemetery: Laurel Hill Cemetery, Center Twp., Posey Co., IN: Myron Allen GUDGEL 1906 - 1946 (Who is this? ) **************************************************************** Re: Nancy Miller's email re: the 2 Dr. GUDGEL's- John Franklin and James Edward GUDGEL- Where is Dr. John Franklin GUDGEL buried? What was his earlier demise that got him out of prominence in Posey Co.? (Sounds like a story to me : ) Nancy wanted to know of other children of Dr. John Franklin GUDGEL and Cynthia Anna Baldwin. I have- Dr. Harry B. GUDGELL-b. October 7, 1877, IN. Marr. Emma HORRALL 1907. Jesse B. GUDGEL-b. 1879 Millara GUDGEL-b. 1881 Everett D. GUDGEL-b. 1883 Ruth E. GUDGEL- b. 1885, marr. Clifford H. Alexander. Does anyone have more information on any of these children? **************************************************************** That's all for now. Kentucky had a sleet and freezing rain storm last night so we are covered this morning. I'll wait till late morning and see how the roads are. This is supposed to be my research day at the new History Center. Should be okay. Will let you know. It's been so long since I've had a research day I think I might walk . Linda Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 07:55:51 -0500 From: Linda Finnell Subject: James Edward GUDGEL, M.D. Nancy- You're absolutely right...it was J.E. GUDGEL, M.D. who was listed in the Biographical Sketches of Posey Co., IN. I went back and looked and it was just as you said. My error. I have the Turman book you spoke of. Well worth the money. Thanks, Linda Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 05:50:20 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson To: lfinnell@lex.infi.net Subject: Re: My brick wall is crumbling!!!!-GUDGELL's Sophie Haywood Gudgel Here is some more information on John D gudgel and Sophie Haywood J P Carpenter and Maria Gudgell signed an application for pension for Lucinda Sophia. J P Carpenter and Maria Gudgell signed an application for pension for Lucinda Sophia. State board of health recorded her age as 58 making her born in 1844 Llewellyn Gudgell (male) signed as a witness to her death. Also Jaspher Wright and George B Waltz also signed. Evergreen Cemetery June 29, 1896 Fairfield Ia. -------------------------------- John D Gudgel b about 1833 died Mar. 26, 1888 Enlisted in 3rd Iowa Cav iith Regt. same day as Richard and Benjamin Sept 4, 1861 Jospeh Gudgel and R H van Doren witnessed the application for pension of John D Gudgell 3/2/1886 April 4, 1888 Widow applied for pension. Attending were B F Canada and Maria Gudgell wife of Benjamin Gudgel 347,250 pension certificate. Cynthia A Gudgell 82 years old. witnessed the pension application for Lucinda Sophia Gudgel as the widow of John D Gudgel ----------------------- Linda Finnell wrote: > > Hi Folks- > > Thanks to Doyal and his info. about pension records of John D. GUDGELL I > have begun to break through my brick wall with my Missouri GUDGEL's!!!! Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 22:01:04 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson To: Gudgeld@aol.com Subject: Re: Gudgel Cemetery Regarding Henry T Gudgel. Son of William and Lucinda. He is usually credited with Thomas as a middle name. Has anyone verified that? It is my opinion that T stands for Thurman his mothers maiden name. What is your take on that? Doyal G From: Gudgeld@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:14:03 EST Subject: Re: Gudgel Cemetery To: ralphj@eskimo.com Doyal; I have about twenty original documents on Henry T. Gudgel ranging from military records, Probate records, Mortgage, etc., and they all refer to him as Henry T. Gudgel. I have always heard him referred to as Henry Thomas, but can find no documentation to support that. Henry Thurman makes sense since Lucinda's maiden name was Thurman, but I have documentation to support either that or Thomas. Dave Gudgel Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:38:05 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson To: Gudgeld@aol.com Subject: Re: Gudgel Cemetery I agree, my middle name is Thomas but I picked it out my self when about 13. Most of my other siblings do not have a middle name. But I guess I felt I should have one. I don't remember why I picked Thomas. Gudgeld@aol.com wrote: > > Doyal; I have about twenty original documents on Henry T. Gudgel ranging > from military records, Probate records, Mortgage, etc., and they all refer to From: GudgelDoc@cs.com Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:27:48 EST Subject: Trent Gudgel To: lfinnell@lex.infi.net, Gudgel-List@eskimo.com Linda, I would like to tie Trent to my side of the family in Sherman Texas. Do yo still have his e-mail?? I think I know of some of his family and they may be related to my side somewhere down the line. Dr. Larry Gudgel Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 23:15:01 -0500 From: Linda Finnell Subject: Need help with Missouri GUDGEL(L)'s!! Hi Folks- I hope I haven't gotten ahead of myself on these Missouri lines! There are so many John's and Joseph's that I'm confused (easily done for me ). Can someone help me out? John D. GUDGELL and Lucinda Sophia HAYWOOD-need all children and dates. Also, was Lucinda his only wife? Any burial sites? Any other info. helpful. Which Joseph GUDGELL married Mary E. PATTERSON Sept 11, 1866 Brown Co., IL ? Did they go on to Missouri also? Were there children from this marriage? Other wives? Data on children? Any burial sites? I'm trying to tie my GUDGEL(L) lines into the Gregory, Lawson, Morris, Jennings and Brant families. Have lots of notes but I'm missing a connection somewhere. Also trying to sort out the African-American GUDGELL lines that were in Missouri also. They came out of KY about the time so many white GUDGELL's were going to MO. Thanks and good night. Linda Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:37:07 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson To: lfinnell@lex.infi.net, gudgel list Subject: Re: Need help with Missouri GUDGEL(L)'s!! Linda Finnell wrote: > > Hi Folks- > > I hope I haven't gotten ahead of myself on these Missouri lines! There > are so many John's and Joseph's that I'm confused (easily done for me > ). Can someone help me out? > > John D. GUDGELL and Lucinda Sophia HAYWOOD-need all children and dates. > Also, was Lucinda his only wife? Any burial sites? Any other info. > helpful. Spencer Gudgell June 13, 1872 Fred Gudgell June 22, 1878 Jennie Gudgell May 11 1880 > > Which Joseph GUDGELL married Mary E. PATTERSON Sept 11, 1866 Brown Co., > IL ? Did they go on to Missouri also? Were there children from this > marriage? Other wives? Data on children? Any burial sites? This Joseph was in the 99th ILL during the Civil War He died in Eldorado Springs MO Cedar County. Ft Scot Mil Cem. Kansas October 28, 1843 d July 19, 1934 Mary Patterson b December 1850 Married September 11, 1866 Jennie Gudgel b Abt. 1864 Emma Gudgel b Abt. 1868 Charles Gudgel b October 1873 October 28, 1843> > I'm trying to tie my GUDGEL(L) lines into the Gregory, Lawson, Morris, > Jennings and Brant families. Have lots of notes but I'm missing a > connection somewhere. > > Also trying to sort out the African-American GUDGELL lines that were in > Missouri also. They came out of KY about the time so many white > GUDGELL's were going to MO. > > Thanks and good night. > Linda There may not by any connection to them as they could have been freed slaves who took the Gudgel name probably not having a surname when freed. Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:53:56 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: Gary, Louise, Steven Gudgel (Stewart Gudgel) I think one or more of you might be on the Gudgel List. I would like to contact any or all of you to get a little information about your father Stewart and mother Naomi. Kay and I met them several times when the lived in Kirkland. I know your father died in 1990 but do not know about your mother. I would also like to know something about your children etc. My genealogy chart has lots of holes in it. Thanking you in advance Doyal Gudgel. Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:05:37 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: Kim Phelps Gudgel Is there a descendant of Everett Dale Gudgel 1917-1990 on the Gudgel list? I believe he was a RE broker in Seattle but would like more information if possible. If you are there please email me. Thanks Doyal Gudgel Do Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:18:39 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: Black Gudgels Here is a place to start looking for black Gudgels. I was told this story. A slave owning Gudgel treated his slaves so well that when they were freed some took the name Gudgel when they moved. This was probably around Louisville KY. In my opinion the only black Gudgels who is descended from a Gudgel is illegitimate because in those days whites did not marry whites. Therefore they would not have the name Gudgel. Doyal Gudgel Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:16:06 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson To: lfinnell@lex.infi.net, gudgel list Subject: Re: Need help with Missouri GUDGEL(L)'s!! Joseph > Jacob, m (Margaret Stewart) >John, (Harbison)>Andrew (Hoch) That is what I have. I like verification before betting the farm on it. But I am pretty sure. He definitely is the one in the tintype taken in New Orleans Linda Finnell wrote: > > On second thought...main question is also- > Is the Joseph GUDGEL who married Mary PATTERSON, the same Joseph GUDGEL who'se > picture we found in the Civil War Uniform on eBay? And who were his parents? > Confused but getting there! > Linda etc... Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:19:33 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson To: lfinnell@lex.infi.net, gudgel list Subject: Re: Need help with Missouri GUDGEL(L)'s!! Change Patterson to HAYWOOD Linda Finnell wrote: > > My real question is.....Was John D. GUDGEL, who marr. Lucinda Sophia PATTERSON, the > son of John GUDGEL and Cynthia BROWN? Just wanted to make sure I got this right? > Linda > > Ralph Johnson wrote: > > > Linda Finnell wrote: > > > > > > Hi Folks- > > > > > > I hope I haven't gotten ahead of myself on these Missouri lines! There > > > are so many John's and Joseph's that I'm confused (easily done for me > > > ). Can someone help me out? > > > > > > > > John D. GUDGELL and Lucinda Sophia HAYWOOD-need all children and dates. > > > Also, was Lucinda his only wife? Any burial sites? Any other info. > > > helpful. > > > > Spencer Gudgell June 13, 1872 > > Fred Gudgell June 22, 1878 > > Jennie Gudgell May 11 1880 > > > > > > > > Which Joseph GUDGELL married Mary E. PATTERSON Sept 11, 1866 Brown Co., > > > IL ? Did they go on to Missouri also? Were there children from this > > > marriage? Other wives? Data on children? Any burial sites? > > > > This Joseph was in the 99th ILL during the Civil War He died in Eldorado > > Springs MO Cedar County. Ft Scot Mil Cem. Kansas > > > > October 28, 1843 d July 19, 1934 > > Mary Patterson b December 1850 > > > > Married September 11, 1866 > > > > Jennie Gudgel b Abt. 1864 > > Emma Gudgel b Abt. 1868 > > Charles Gudgel b October 1873 > > > > October 28, 1843> > > > I'm trying to tie my GUDGEL(L) lines into the Gregory, Lawson, Morris, > > > Jennings and Brant families. Have lots of notes but I'm missing a > > > connection somewhere. > > > > > > Also trying to sort out the African-American GUDGELL lines that were in > > > Missouri also. They came out of KY about the time so many white > > > GUDGELL's were going to MO. > > > > > > Thanks and good night. > > > Linda > > > > There may not by any connection to them as they could have been freed slaves who > > took the Gudgel name probably not having a surname when freed. Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:24:49 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson To: npdtech@nicking.com, gudgel list Subject: Re: Black Gudgels Of course I meant that. It was about midnight and I was tired. But the spell checker Sam Gudgel wrote: > > Doyle... > > Didn't you mean "whites DID marry whites" or "BLACKS did not marry whites"? > > I can tell you there is a black Gudgel family in Manhattan, NY, NY. > > I picked up the phone book on a trip once to look for the name... > Called the number and whalla... > > We spoke for some time before either of us knew we were not the same race. > Actually it was quite a funny experience. > We were BOTH quite surprised. > > Sam Gudgel > MA > > > illegitimate because in those days whites did not marry whites. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ralph Johnson [mailto:ralphj@eskimo.com] > > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 1:19 AM > > To: gudgel list > > Subject: Black Gudgels > > > > > > Here is a place to start looking for black Gudgels. I was told > > this story. > > > > A slave owning Gudgel treated his slaves so well that when they > > were freed some > > took the name Gudgel when they moved. This was probably around > > Louisville KY. > > > > In my opinion the only black Gudgels who is descended from a Gudgel is > > illegitimate because in those days whites did not marry whites. > > Therefore they > > would not have the name Gudgel. > > > > Doyal Gudgel > > > > From: "M. Wingert" Subject: Friends?? Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:01:11 -0600 While going thru some old newsletters this morning, I found something I had overlooked (in 1982 I knew NOTHING about Gudgel ancestors). In the Quaker Yeomen newsletter of July 1982, were some references to the Godschalk name; Florence Idol, dau of Dr James Knox Polk & Kate Alexander Idol m arr 1899-12-19 , Harry Godschalk b. 1879-10-27. their child: Chester Godschalk, b. 1900-11, m Ruth Pentz. their child: Sylvia Elizabeth Godschalk b, 1925-06-04. These were in some "Edna Harvey Joseph Genealogical notes" NO places were given. Has anyone else found reference to Gudgel or the variant spellings as Quakers? The southern Illinois ones were Lutherans. To: gudgel-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:07:23 -0800 Subject: THANKS LINDA GUDGEL FINNELL Hi Linda Gudgel Finnell, I got the package you sent me with the research that Nancy M. GUDGEL SMITH had talked with you about. I have been tied up at the Library doing WW2 research on my fathers military duty. I was surprised to find that my Father was wounded at Okinawa, 3 May 1945, and I was stationed their 24 years later. I am trying to find out where his ship went down. I was also surprised when I found out that he was inducted into the US Navy on 4 Feb 1944 ... I was inducted into the US Marines on 4 Feb. 1969. Anyway thanks for the info. There are leads there that I don't have. I am sure that I will spend many hours going through what you sent. THANK YOU for taking the time to make copies. Bill Gudgel Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:05:22 -0500 From: Linda Finnell Subject: Re: Friends?? Mary- I have always heard that the early GOTTSCHALK's were Mennonite and that Frederick GOTTSCHALK was a Mennonite minister. I have seen reference to this several times but never found where he had a church or served as a minister. Someone correct me if I am wrong but I believe that the Quakers were a group of the same beliefs as the Mennonite faith (didnt bear arms). It has even been said that the GODSHALK's changed their denomination to Lutheran later in early PA days so that they wouldn't have to bear allegiance to the King. I am not proficient in this area so you can take it for what it's worth. So much heresay in this family. I'd sure like to get something solid soon. Linda "M. Wingert" wrote: > While going thru some old newsletters this morning, I found something I had > overlooked (in 1982 I knew NOTHING about Gudgel ancestors). In the Quaker > Yeomen newsletter of July 1982, were some references to the Godschalk name; > Florence Idol, dau of Dr James Knox Polk & Kate Alexander Idol m arr > 1899-12-19 , Harry Godschalk b. 1879-10-27. their child: > Chester Godschalk, b. 1900-11, m Ruth Pentz. their child: > Sylvia Elizabeth Godschalk b, 1925-06-04. > These were in some "Edna Harvey Joseph Genealogical notes" NO places were > given. > Has anyone else found reference to Gudgel or the variant spellings as > Quakers? The southern Illinois ones were Lutherans. Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:03:51 -0500 From: Linda Finnell Subject: History Center Research trip Hi Folks- I wanted to let you know that I did get to go to the Kentucky History Center on Tuesday for my personal "Research Day" and it was a milestone for me! I found my paternal grandmother's (Verna Elwood HUTCHISON GUDGEL) father's family all the way back to VA!!!!Yipee!! Up until about 6 months ago all I knew was her father's name, James Rabe HUTCHISON. Piece by piece I found a marriage record, then a census record and then nothing : ( So Tuesday I found a book called The Kentucky HUTCHERSON at the Research Library. BINGO!!! There it was all spelled out. Please note that my grandmother would be the first to tell you that it was spelled h-u-t-c-h-i-s-o-n. She'd say it proudly and make sure we understood it wasn't HUTCHINSON or HUTCHERSON. Well, it was HUTCHERSON and eventaully became HUTCHISON. Poor grandmother must have turned over in her grave Tuesday. Sorry grandmother, but it happened! Anyway, this was a major milestone for me. I really believe if we look hard and long enough it will pay off. Now if we could have the same luck with old Andrew : ) That's all for now- Linda- from cold and a little snow on the ground Kentucky. Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 20:50:53 -0800 From: "Mia K. Fleegel" Subject: Missouri Gudgel's pt.1 Hi all, I have been watching the activity on the Missouri Gudgel's and will put my 2 cents worth in. I lived in Kansas City Missouri about 15 min. from the National Archives and when my kids got old enough to go to school I spent quite a bit of time there looking up census records - in fact I believe I spent a couple of hours there the day I delivered my third child! I was able to piece together some of the Missouri Gudgels at that time. Rather than re-type it all I am going to send two emails with the contents of my Family Tree Maker file on 1.) The descendants of John Gudgel Son of Jacob Gudgel & Drucilla Driskell and 2.)The Descendants of Jacob Gudgel Son of John Gudgel and Jane Harbison. Please, everyone - look it over and let me know of any mistakes! I realize the formatting really gets messed up but can you read it?? Thanks Mia (Descendant of John Gudgel and Jane Harbison) Descendants of John Gudgel Son of Jacob Gudgel & Drucilla Driskell Generation No. 1 1. JOHN4 GUDGEL (JACOB3, ANDREW2, FREDERICK1 GOTSCHALCK) was born Abt. 1795 in KY1, and died Aft. 1850. He married CYNTHIA ANN BROWN 24 December 1818 in Franklin Co., KY, daughter of GEORGE BROWN and POLLY ?. She was born 23 December 1805 in KY1, and died 4 November 1892 in Jefferson Co., IA. Notes for JOHN GUDGEL: 1840 Federal Census Crooked River Township Ray County, Missouri page 336 GUDGEL, Jon males: 2 (under 5), 1 (5-10), 1 (15-20), 1 (40-50) females: 1 (under 5), 1 (5-10), 1 (30-40) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1850 Federal Census 51st District Livingston County, Missouri page 92 654/654 GUDGEL, John 55 Farmer real 300 KY Cynthia A. 43 KY John 17 Farmer KY Franklin 15 Farmer KY Lenora 13 KY Richard 7 MO Lova 5 MO Bruce 4 MO CROSSMAN, Mary A. 24 KY Children of JOHN GUDGEL and CYNTHIA BROWN are: 2. i. EDWARD5 GUDGEL, b. 9 February 1820, Anderson Co., KY; d. 3 July 1872, prob. MO. ii. MARY GUDGEL, b. Abt. 1823; m. WILLIAM LOVE, 28 July 1840, Ray Co., MO2. iii. LOUISE GUDGEL, b. Abt. 1830, KY; m. HENRY W. PECH, 6 January 1840, Ray Co., MO3. 3. iv. JOHN D. GUDGEL, b. Abt. 1833, KY; d. 26 March 1888, IA. v. BENJAMIN FRANKLIN GUDGEL, b. 2 July 1835, KY4; d. 5 March 1913, IA; m. MARIAH FARRINGTON, 10 September 1867. 4. vi. LENORAH GUDGEL, b. 1 September 1838, Anderson Co., KY; d. 1 January 1915, Durham, CA. 5. vii. RICHARD GUDGEL, b. June 1843, Livingston Co., MO; d. 18 April 1921, Fairfield, Jefferson Co., IA.. viii. LOVE GUDGEL, b. Abt. 1845, MO5; m. HUGH CANADAY. ix. ROBERT BRUCE GUDGEL, b. Abt. 1846, MO6. Generation No. 2 2. EDWARD5 GUDGEL (JOHN4, JACOB3, ANDREW2, FREDERICK1 GOTSCHALCK) was born 9 February 1820 in Anderson Co., KY7, and died 3 July 1872 in prob. MO7. He married AMY R. DAVIS 12 January 1846 in Anderson Co., KY. She was born 26 May 18228, and died 17 April 18938. Notes for EDWARD GUDGEL: 1850 Federal Census 51st District Livingston County, MO page 89 626/626 GUDGEL, Edwin 30 Farmer KY Ann 28 KY John K. 3 KY Robert W. 1 KY DAVIS, Lucy J. 21 KY Enumerated 15 October, 1850 _____________________________________________________________________________________ 1860Federal Census Livingston Co, MO GUDGEL, Edward 34 KY Amy & family _____________________________________________________________________________________ 1870 Federal Census Livingston Co., MO GUDGELL, Edward 50 KY Amy 48 KY Martin 17 MO Susan 12 MO Edward 8 MO Eliz 6 MO (lived near Farmersville) More About EDWARD GUDGEL: Bur: Edgewood Cemetery, Chillicothe, Livingston Co., MO More About AMY R. DAVIS: Bur: Edgewood Cemetery, Chillicothe, Livingston Co., MO Children of EDWARD GUDGEL and AMY DAVIS are: 6. i. JOHN H.6 GUDGEL, b. 1 September 1847; d. 5 June 1895. ii. ROBERT W. GUDGEL, b. Abt. 1849. iii. MARLIN PIERCE GUDGEL, b. 4 January 1853, MO9; d. 19 July 1885. More About MARLIN PIERCE GUDGEL: Bur: Edgewood Cemetery, Chillicothe, Livingston Co., MO iv. SUSAN M. GUDGEL, b. Abt. 1858, MO. v. EDWARD GUDGEL, b. July 1862, MO. vi. ELIZA GUDGEL, b. Abt. 1864, MO. 3. JOHN D.5 GUDGEL (JOHN4, JACOB3, ANDREW2, FREDERICK1 GOTSCHALCK) was born Abt. 1833 in KY10, and died 26 March 1888 in IA. He married LUCINDA SOPHIA HAYWOOD 10 June 1866. More About JOHN D. GUDGEL: Mil Rec: Civil War- Co. F, 3rd Iowa cavalry Children of JOHN GUDGEL and LUCINDA HAYWOOD are: i. SPENCER6 GUDGEL, b. 13 June 1872. ii. FRED GUDGEL, b. 22 June 1878. iii. JENNIE GUDGEL, b. 11 May 1880, IA11. Notes for JENNIE GUDGEL: 1900 Federal Census Soundex 223 S. Green, Ottumwa Center Township Wapello County v.27, ed.121, sheet 11, line 27 GUDGEL, Jennie b. May 1880, age 20 b. IA neice of Hugh H. Canaday 4. LENORAH5 GUDGEL (JOHN4, JACOB3, ANDREW2, FREDERICK1 GOTSCHALCK) was born 1 September 1838 in Anderson Co., KY12, and died 1 January 1915 in Durham, CA. She married PETER VANCLUF SUTLIFF. Children of LENORAH GUDGEL and PETER SUTLIFF are: i. PETER6 SUTLIFF. ii. CLARA BELLE SUTLIFF. iii. CYNTHIA P. SUTLIFF. 5. RICHARD5 GUDGEL (JOHN4, JACOB3, ANDREW2, FREDERICK1 GOTSCHALCK) was born June 1843 in Livingston Co., MO12, and died 18 April 1921 in Fairfield, Jefferson Co., IA.. He married PHOEBE A. HENDERSON 10 August 1876 in Arcadia Twp, Morgan Co., IL. She was born 21 April 1859 in Louisa, IA, and died 2 April 1934 in Lawrence, Douglas Co., KS. Notes for RICHARD GUDGEL: 1900 Federal Soundex Jefferson Co., Iowa Buchanon Township v.39, ed.42, sheet 9, line 85 GUDGELL, R.J. June 1843 56 MO Phoebe wife Apr. 1859 43 Iowa Licurgas son Apr. 1879 21 Ill. Love. M. dau Apr. 1882 18 Iowa Laura L. dau Apr. 1882 18 Iowa Robert V. son May 1885 15 Iowa Henry C. son Mar. 1888 12 Iowa Lilie B. dau Feb. 1890 10 Iowa ************************************************************************************** HENDERSON & GUDGELL Family Genealogy Descendants of Enward HENDERSON http://www.parsonstech.com/genealogy/trees/jhenders/d101.htm#P511 Phoebe A. HENDERSON-b. 21 April 1859 Louisa, Iowa, d. 2 April 1934 Lawrence, Douglas Co., KS. Marr. Richard J. GUDGELL 10 Aug. 1876 Arcadia Twp, Morgan Co., IL. Richard J. GUDGELL b. 1848 in Texas, d. 18 April 1021Fairfield, Jefferson Co., IA. Had the following children: Jackson GUDGELL Lycurgus GUDGELL Love GUDGELL Laura GUDGELL Robert GUDGELL Henry Clay GUDGELL Lila GUDGELL Susie GUDGELL ************************************************************************************** Children of RICHARD GUDGEL and PHOEBE HENDERSON are: i. JACKSON6 GUDGEL, b. Abt. 1877. ii. LICURGAS GUDGEL, b. April 1879, IL. Notes for LICURGAS GUDGEL: 1900 Federal Soundex Jefferson Co., Iowa Fairfield Township Fairfield v.39, ed46, sheet 17, line 32 GUDGELL, Licurtis Apr. 1879 21 Ill (boarder of Walter W. Brum) iii. LAURA L. GUDGEL, b. April 1882, IA. iv. LOVE M. GUDGEL, b. April 1882, IA. v. ROBERT V. GUDGEL, b. May 1885, IA. vi. HENRY CLAY GUDGEL, b. March 1888, IA. vii. LILIE B. GUDGEL, b. February 1890, IA. viii. SUSIE GUDGEL, b. Abt. 1891. Generation No. 3 6. JOHN H.6 GUDGEL (EDWARD5, JOHN4, JACOB3, ANDREW2, FREDERICK1 GOTSCHALCK) was born 1 September 184713, and died 5 June 189514. He married JENNIE K. BRANT, daughter of JACOB BRANT and SUSAN FETCHUM. She was born 27 January 184914, and died 8 July 190614. More About JOHN H. GUDGEL: Bur: Edgewood Cemetery, Chillicothe, Livingston Co., MO More About JENNIE K. BRANT: Bur: Edgewood Cemetery, Chillicothe, Livingston Co., MO Children of JOHN GUDGEL and JENNIE BRANT are: i. CHARLES V.7 GUDGEL, b. 23 August 186914; d. 30 August 1870. More About CHARLES V. GUDGEL: Bur: Edgewood Cemetery, Chillicothe, Livingston Co., MO 7. ii. WILLIAM A. GUDGEL, b. Abt. 1870, MO. iii. JACOB E. GUDGEL, b. 10 November 1872, MO14; d. 24 December 1881. More About JACOB E. GUDGEL: Bur: Edgewood Cemetery, Chillicothe, Livingston Co., MO Generation No. 4 7. WILLIAM A.7 GUDGEL (JOHN H.6, EDWARD5, JOHN4, JACOB3, ANDREW2, FREDERICK1 GOTSCHALCK) was born Abt. 1870 in MO. He married EFFIE ?. She was born 24 October 187014, and died 7 November 189914. More About EFFIE ?: Bur: Edgewood Cemetery, Chillicothe, Livingston Co., MO Child of WILLIAM GUDGEL and EFFIE ? is: i. JOHN HENRY8 GUDGEL, b. July 1898; d. 20 October 189814. More About JOHN HENRY GUDGEL: Bur: Edgewood Cemetery, Chillicothe, Livingston Co., MO Endnotes 1. 1850 Fed Cen - Livingston Co., MO 2. Marriage Record, Ray Co., MO. 3. Marriage Record, Ray Co., MO, pg.26. 4. 1850 Federal Census, 51st District, Livingston Co., MO, page 92. 5. 1850 Fed Cen - Livingston Co., MO 6. 1850 Federal Census, 51st District, Livingston Co., MO, page 92. 7. Tombstone - Edgewood Cemetery, Chillicothe, Livingston Co., MO 8. Edgewood Cemetery, Chillicothe, Livingston Co., MO 9. Tombstone - Edgewood Cemetery, Chillicothe, Livingston Co., MO 10. 1850 Fed Cen - Livingston Co., MO 11. 1900 Federal Soundex, Center Tp., Wapello Co. IA, v.27, ed.121, sheet 11, line 27. 12. 1850 Fed Cen - Livingston Co., MO 13. Edgewood Cemetery, Chilicothe, Livingston Co., MO. 14. Tombstone - Edgewood Cemetery, Chillicothe, Livingston Co., MO Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 20:59:31 -0800 From: "Mia K. Fleegel" Subject: Missouri Gudgel's pt.2 Hi all again, This is my second installment out of my Family Tree Maker File of Gudgel's that passed through Missouri. This family appears to have only briefly stopped in the state but maybe some of you have more!! Mia (I decend from John and Jane's son, Andrew) Linda - Hope this helps _________________________________________________________________ Descendants of Jacob Gudgel Son of John Gudgel and Jane Harbison Generation No. 1 1. JACOB4 GUDGEL (JOHN3, ANDREW2, FREDERICK1 GOTSCHALCK) was born Abt. 1819 in IN1, and died 10 January 1873 in Barnard, Linn Co., KS2. He married MARGARET STEWART 30 September 1840 in Jefferson Co., IN3,4. She was born 27 November 1819 in Jefferson Co., IN5,6, and died 7 February 1913 in LaCygne, Linn Co., KS. Notes for JACOB GUDGEL: 1850 Federal Census Jefferson County, Indiana Graham Tp. page 507/254 GUDGELL, Jacob 31 farmer 2500 IN Margaret 30 IN Joseph 7 IN William 4 IN Missouri C. 1 IN STEWART, Elizabeth 17 IN William 13 IN 3 April 1854 Jacob Gudgel elected Constable of Graham Tp., Jefferson Co., IN 1860 Federal Census Pike County, Illinois Kinderhook Tp., page 38 96/? JUDGLE, Jacob 42 IN Margaret 41 IN Joseph 16 IN William D.? 14 IN Miriam? 11 IN David 9 IN Mary 6 IN Melanie? 4 IN Richard 1 IL 1870 Federal Census Linn Co., Kansas Valley Tp., P.O. Jackson 160/146 GUDGEL, Jacob 52 Farmer IN Margaret 51 Keeping House IN David 18 IN Mary 16 IN Melisse 13 IN Richard 10 IL William 8 IL John 7 IL FERGUSON, John 38 Carpenter KY taken 22 July 1870 **************************************************************************************History of Kansas by A.T. Anderson 1880 LINN COUNTY page 1416 Barnard is the trading post station, and nearly three miles distant toward the northwest. It is situated on "Hensley's Point;" the town-site eight acres, was purchased by J.B. Grinnell, of Arthur Barnard. Mr. Grinnell had a survey made, and held a sale of lots in the fall of 1869. The first building erected in the town was built for a store and grocery by John V. Leabo, who was appointed first Postmaster in the same year. . . the first deaths those of Jacob and Richard Gudgel, father and son, which occurred at almost the same time, in 1872. ************************************************************************************** 1900 Federal Census Soundex Bourbon Co., KS Fort Scott, 808 Hill St. v.4, ed 36, sheet 3, line 34 GUDGEL, Margaret 81 b. Nov.1819 IN mother-in-law of W.A. Johnson. More About JACOB GUDGEL: Bur: Trading Post Cemetery, Barnard, Linn Co., KS Notes for MARGARET STEWART: Obituary of Margaret STEWART GUDGEL as printed in the LaCygne Weekly, Linn Co., KS, February 14, 1913. A WONDERFUL LIFE ENDED Margaret STEWART was born in Jefferson Co., IN, Nov. 27, 1819 and died in LaCygne, Kansas Feb. 7, 1913. On Sept. 30, 1840 she was married to Jacob GUDGEL. To this union 8 children were born, 5 boys and 3 girls, 5 of whom survive her. She moved to Kansas with her husband in 1866. At the age of 14 she united with the Methodist Espiscopal church and lived a consistant Christian life for 80 years. Mother GUDGEL was a widow for 40 years, her husband having died in 1873. When we think over this remarkable life we can but marvel at the wonderful changes she has seen take place. She has seen her church grow from a mere handful of members into a connection of millions. She has seen colleges and universities spring up all over this western country. She was two years of age when the Great Commonwealth of Missouri was admitted to the Union. She was the mother of a family when the State of Kansas was a territory. Kansas City was a village when she was a grown woman. She has seen civilization change from the crude to the conveniences of today. When she was a young lady they did not even possess the common match nor oil lamp, neither did she know until maturity the conveniences of the cook stove and the modern inventions were not even thought of. She was a mother and furnished sons to fight for the Union during the War of the Rebellion. During all of the troublous times she has kept the faith. She was a woman grown when the false prophesies of the Millerites predicted the end of the world. She saw that bauble rise and burst and during all the frenzied fanatical time she did not wander off after strange doctrines nor heed the teachings of false teachers. She could say with the Apostle Paul, "I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course. I have kept the Faith." Funeral services were held at the home of her daughter, Mrs. Mary HALMOND, with whom she made her home, at 10:00 a.m. Saturday conducted by Rev. J.R. Hoopingarner, pastor of the M.E. Church. The remains were taken to Trading Post where they were tenderly laid to rest in the cemetery at that place. The relatives who attended the funeral were Joe GUDGEL of Pittsburg, W.A. JOHNSON of Ft. Scott, and Mrs. C.W. ROSS and son of Kansas City. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CARD OF THANKS We wish to thank our many friends and neighbors for their kindness and sympathy during the death of our beloved mother; also for the beautiful floral offerings. Mrs. Mary HALMOND Mrs. W.A. JOHNSON Mrs. Ben MITZEL Mr. Joe GUDGEL --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More About MARGARET STEWART: Bur: Trading Post Cemetery, Barnard, Linn Co., KS Children of JACOB GUDGEL and MARGARET STEWART are: 2. i. JOSEPH5 GUDGEL, b. 28 October 1843, Jefferson Co., IN; d. 19 July 1934, Eldorado Springs, Cedar Co., MO. ii. WILLIAM D. GUDGEL7, b. Abt. 1846, IN7; d. 30 October 1877; m. MARY A. STORMS, 14 February 1870, Trading Post, Linn Co., KS. Notes for WILLIAM D. GUDGEL: Illinois Civil War Veterans Database for "Gudgel" http://www.sos.state.il.us/cgi-bin/civilwar NAME COMPANY & UNIT RESIDENCE ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GUDGEL, Calvin H 148 INF MOUND STATION GUDGEL, John K 148 INF MILO GUDGEL, William W. H 148 INF MOUND STATION *********************************************************************************** Dyer's Compendium Pt. 3 (Regimental Histories) ILLINOIS VOLUNTEERS. 149th REGIMENT INFANTRY. Organized at Camp Butler, Ill., and mustered in February 21, 1865. Moved to Nashville, Tenn., February 22-25, thence to Tullahoma, Tenn., March 1, Attached to 1st Brigade, Defences Nashville & Chattanooga R. R. to April, 1865. 2nd Brigade, 1st Sub-District, District of Middle Tennessee, Dept. of the Cumberland, to June, 1865. 3rd Brigade, 1st Sub-District, District of Middle Tennessee, to September, 1865. SERVICE.--Duty at Tullahoma, Tenn., till June 18, 1865; then distributed 5 Companies at Decherd, 1 Company at McMinnville and 4 Companies guarding Nashville & Chattanooga R. R. from Lombardy to Anderson's Station till September. Mustered out at Nashville, Tenn., September 5, 1865. Regiment lost during service 2 Enlisted men killed and 1 Officer and 70 Enlisted men by disease. Total 73. More About WILLIAM D. GUDGEL: Mil Rec: Civil War - Union 3. iii. MISSOURI CATHERINE GUDGEL, b. 1 December 1848, Jefferson Co., IN; d. 19 January 1940, at home of daughter Lora, LaCygne, Linn Co., KS. iv. DAVID GUDGEL8, b. 1851, IN8; d. 1874. v. MARY E. GUDGEL, b. Abt. 22 July 1853, Jefferson Co., IN; d. 24 February 1926, prob KS; m. GEORGE HALMOND. More About MARY E. GUDGEL: Bur: Oaklawn Cemetery, Linn Co., KS vi. MELANIE GUDGEL, b. Abt. 1856, IN. vii. RICHARD W. GUDGEL, b. Abt. 1859, IL8; d. 9 January 1873, Barnard, Linn Co., KS9. viii. WILLIAM GUDGEL, b. Abt. 1862, IL. ix. JOHN GUDGEL, b. Abt. 1863, IL. Generation No. 2 2. JOSEPH5 GUDGEL (JACOB4, JOHN3, ANDREW2, FREDERICK1 GOTSCHALCK)10 was born 28 October 1843 in Jefferson Co., IN11,12, and died 19 July 1934 in Eldorado Springs, Cedar Co., MO13. He married MARY E. PATTERSON 11 September 1866 in Mound Station, Brown Co., IL14. She was born December 1850 in IN. Notes for JOSEPH GUDGEL: Illinois Civil War Veterans Database for "Gudgel" http://www.sos.state.il.us/cgi-bin/civilwar NAME COMPANY & UNIT RESIDENCE ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GUDGEL, JOSEPH C 99 INF CON GUDGEL, JOSEPH H 99 INF KINDERHOOK ************************************************************************************** Illinois State Archives Civil War Service Report Joseph Gudgel Pvt., 99 Inf, Co. H age 18 born in Jefferson Co., IN Joined for Service and Enrolled on Aug. 12, 1862 in Kinderhook, IL By Capt. Hull for a term of 3 years. Mustered into service on Aug. 23, 1862 in Florence, IL By Capt. Rathbone Residence: Kinderhook, Pike Co., IL Transfered to Co. C as consolidated. ************************************************************************************* Adjutant General's Report History of Ninety-Ninth Infantry page 536 - 537 The ninety-ninth infantry was organized in Pike county in August, 1862 by Colonel George W.K. Bailey of Pittsfield, and was mustered in at Florence, Pike county, August 23 by Captain J.H. Rathbone; on the same day moved to St. Louis, Mo.; and went into Benton Barracks on the 24th, where it received its equipments, being the first Regiment out of the State under the call of 1862. September 8, was sent to Rolla, MO; thence Septmeber 17, to Salem, Dent county, thence, November 20, to Houston, Texas county. Was assigned to the Brigade of Brigadier General FitzHenry Warren. Was engaged in a skirmish at Bear Creek, losing 1 killed, 4 wounded and 1 taken prisoner, and in the battle of Hartsville lost 35 killed and wounded. January 27, 1863, moved to West Plains, Howell county, reporting to Brigadier General Davidson. March 3, moved to Pilot Knob, thence to St. Genevieve. March 15, embarked for Milliken's Bend, La.; was assigned to General Benton's Brigade, General E.H. Carr's Division, General McClernand's Thirteenth Army Corps. Left Milliken's Bend April 11, arrived at New Carthage 12th. Marched down Roundway Bayou in Lousiana, passed Vicksburg and Grand Gulf. Crossed the river April 30 and after marching all night met the enemy at Magnolia Hills, ner Port Gibson, Miss.; lost 37 killed and wounded. In June, 1865, the Division was ordered to Red River, to receive the surrender of Kirby Smith, and it proceeded to Shreveport, La. From this place Colonel Mathews was detailed to proceed, with a body-guard of the Sixth Missouri Calvalry, to the Indian Territory, and receive the surrender of Brigadier Generals Cooper and Standwaite, and to form temporary treaties of peace with the Indian tribes. The Colonel formed treaties with ten tribes--including the Choctaws, Cherokees, Chickasaws and Osages--and returned (having traveled a thousand miles) on the 3rd of July. On 19th July, ordered to Baton Rouge. On 31st of July, mustered out by Captain E.S. Hawk, A.C.M. Arrived at Springfield, Ill., August 6, 1865, and received final payment and discharge August 9, 1865, and by midnight of same day the surviving veterans were in their own county. The Ninety-ninth had three years of active service and were in the states of Missouri, Arkansas, Tennessee, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas and Alabama. Shortly after their discharge the survivors, their wives and sweethearts, were given a grand dinner by the citizens of Pittsfield, where 3 years before over 900 men had marched out to do and die for their country. At the banquet less than 350 partook of the feast. ************************************************************************************** Copperheads, Black Republicans and Bushwhackers: Pike County, Illinois and the Civil War Walter S. Waggoner Windmill Publications, Inc 1999 page 80 List of Killed and Wounded of the Ninety-ninth Regiment at Hartsville, Pike County Democrat, January 29, 1863 - Joseph Dugdell (sic) co.I, right shoulder, slightly ************************************************************************************** Letter Written by Shelby Graylin Gudgel: May the 25 1863 Camp nere Vicksburg My dere mifs I hasen to drop you a few lines to let you know that I am well except a wound in my left hand a ball went threw just in rear of my little finger I most earnestly when this cums to hand it may find you the best of health pleasure well liss we was in the hotest place that our Reg was in we made a charge on ther Brest works I was in 3 hudreds yds of ther fort our army lost lots o men I dont know how many the Rebs lost they sent out a flag of truce to bery ther ded and we quit fighting till the ded could be buried our pioneers are diging down their fort evry knight we have been fighting 6 days here I was in the fight 3 dys but we ant geting many kild now we just skirmishing know they put out their Pickets last knight and they left ther Post and came to us when the flag of truce was up sum of them came over to us and for got to go back any more they cum to us as fast as they can we ben on the march for 2 months fighting them all the time Reeds Boys are her westy Spere is alright Joseph Gudgel is here in the 99 Ill I knew him as quick as I saw him and he knew me. they Rebs will have to give up this place the just as well do it know as any time evry one that cums out there haversacks is getting empty they hant got any thing to feed there stock they letting cum out into our lines we can fighit them for ever it 8 miles to reiver we are getting provisinons from there all the time know we are bound to go into vicksburg that all there prisnors say they have 25000 men but they hant got that many we have over 100-000 men my co got up clost to them the other knight we talked to them and them to us we evited them over to crackers withe us and the wanted us to cum over and play uker withe them I must close for this time whem we get into vicksburg I will rite you a big letter write soon as this ums to hand yours truly shelby G Gudgel to M J Earhart I would have writen sooner but I had no chance of sending theem ************************************************************************************** http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilpike/ [viewed on April 29, 1999] At 10 o'clock in the morning on the 22nd of May 1863. The Pike County Regiment (the 99th Illinois Infantry) was ordered by General U. S. Grant to attack the fortifications of Vicksburg. They and other units including the 33rd and 8th Illinois, which had Pike county contingents, were hurled straight on, in suicidal fashion against the Confederate defenses. In an attack that lasted hardly more than 10 minutes, the 99th suffered close to 50% casualties. On that morning before Vicksburg, the regiment more than lived up to its nickname, "the Bloody 99th." Walter S. Waggoner wsw@mail.ksni.net More About JOSEPH GUDGEL: Bur: 23 July 1934, National Cemetery, Ft. Scott, KS Cause of Death: Myocardial Degeniration Medical Information: Hazel eyes, light complexion, light hair Mil Rec: 12 August 1862, Civil War - Pvt., 99 Inf., Co. H Illinois Volunteers, Residence - Kinderhook Children of JOSEPH GUDGEL and MARY PATTERSON are: i. JENNIE6 GUDGEL, b. Abt. 1864, KS. ii. EMMA GUDGEL, b. Abt. 1868, KS. iii. CHARLES GUDGEL, b. October 1873, KS. 3. MISSOURI CATHERINE5 GUDGEL (JACOB4, JOHN3, ANDREW2, FREDERICK1 GOTSCHALCK)15 was born 1 December 1848 in Jefferson Co., IN15, and died 19 January 1940 in at home of daughter Lora, LaCygne, Linn Co., KS. She married BEN MITZAL 5 January 1867 in Linn Co., KS. He died 28 December 1928. Notes for MISSOURI CATHERINE GUDGEL: OBITUARY-MISSOURI CATHARINE GUDGEL MITZEL-1940 published January 26, 1940 in the LaCygne Journal, Linn Co., Kansas: (sent to Linda Gudgel Finnell by a descendant, Marietta J. PATTERSON) END OF A LONG LIFE The death of Mrs. Missouri Mitzel Friday morning, January 19 takes another of the few remaining pioneer women of Linn County. Coming here with her parents from Illinois in 1866, 74 years of her life had been spent here. She was a young girl of 17 when her parents, Mr. and Mrs. GUDGEL, migrated to Kansas from their home in Pike Co., Illinois, having previously lived in Jefferson Co., Indiana. When the GUDGEL's settled on a claim in Linn County, Brooklin at that time promised to be the leading town, and county seat of this county. This is where the GUDGEL's took their land, along with a number of other families coming from Illinois and Indiana about the same time. The trip was made by wagon train. requiring three weeks for the journey. A year after coming to Kansas, Missouri GUDGEL was married to Ben MITZEL, who lived on a neighboring farm, and who, though a young lad at the time of the Civil War, had served as a wagon driver for the government between Fort Scott and Fort Smith in Arkansas, carrying army supplies. Mr. and Mrs. Ben MITZEL lived on a farm in the Brooklyn community until their three daughters were grown and married, when they bought a home in the north part of La Cygne and engaged in light farming. Later they bought the home on Walnut Street where Mr. MITZEL spent the remaining years of his life, and where the end came to Mrs. MITZEL eleven years later. Mrs. MITZEL was active and in good health for one of her advanced age. Afflicted with her failing sight, which some fifteen years ago had caused for a time almost total blindness, she was hindered from getting about as much as she would have liked, but she walked with a spry, active step, and enjoyed going among her friends. She enjoyed especially the meetings of her bible class and attended all that she could, the last one a Christmas party, an annual event at the home of Mrs. Emma BLOUNT. She celebrated her 91st birthday December 1 and received much pleasure in calls and messages from her friends. The fall, soon after, in her home, which resulted in a broken hip, was the direct cause of her death four weeks later. She was cheerful and apparently free from pain throughout the long days and nights that she must lie in one position, and looked forward to a time when she would be up and around again. Her strength gradually failed and the end of a long and active life came Friday, January 19. A brief funeral service was held Sunday afternoon at the Christian church, conducted by the Rev. Virgil Sigler, and burial was in Oak Lawn Cemetery beside her husband. The following sketch of her life was read at the funeral service: Missouri Catharine GUDGEL was born December 1, 1848 in Jefferson Co., Indiana. In 1866 she moved with her parents to Linn County, Kansas. January 5, 1867 she was untied in marriage to Ben MITZEL, who preceded her in death on December 23, 1928. Three daughters came to their home-Clara, now Mrs. CARROLL of San Francisco, Calif.; Effie, now Mrs. J.D. PATTERSON of Copeland, Kansas; and Lora, now Mrs. H.D. CALLISON, with whom she has lived since her husband's death. Throughout her entire life she maintained a great interest in friends and was a great reader, keeping current and national events clearly in her mind to the last week of her life. Becoming a Christian many years ago, she worked earnestly to further the cause of Christ, ever faithful, and willing to give. Besides the daughters she leaves a grandson, Edgar CALLISON, of Laramie, Wyoming, a granddaughter, Mrs. C.D. VAWTER of La Cygne, a grandson, Frank PATTERSON of Copeland, and a granddaughter, Mrs. Zelma BENTON of San Francisco; also four great grandchildren of whom she was very proud. The closing chapter of her life of 91 years one month and 18 days came with the dawning of January 19. In the early morning hour the spirit drifted away, leaving the bodily form sweetly sleeping. More About MISSOURI CATHERINE GUDGEL: Bur: Oaklawn Cemetery, Linn Co., KS Cause of Death: complication from a fractured hip Medical Information: Lived 4 weeks after falling. Children of MISSOURI GUDGEL and BEN MITZAL are: i. CLARA6 MITZAL, m. ? CARROLL. More About CLARA MITZAL: Residence: 1940, San Francisco, CA ii. EFFIE MITZAL, m. J.D. COPELAND. More About EFFIE MITZAL: Residence: 1940, Copeland, KS 4. iii. LORA MITZAL. Generation No. 3 4. LORA6 MITZAL (MISSOURI CATHERINE5 GUDGEL, JACOB4, JOHN3, ANDREW2, FREDERICK1 GOTSCHALCK) She married H.D. CALLISON. More About LORA MITZAL: Residence: 1940, La Cygne, Linn Co., KS Child of LORA MITZAL and H.D. CALLISON is: i. EDGAR7 CALLISON. Endnotes 1. 1850 Federal Census, Graham Tp., Jefferson Co., IN, page 507/254. 2. A.T. Anderson, The History of Kansas, (1880), LINN COUNTY, page 1416. 3. Jefferson County Marriage Records, 1811-1873, Madison, IN. 4. INDIANA STATE LIBRARY - Genealogy Division, Database to an Index of Indiana Marriages Through 1850, (March, 1999), "Electronic." 5. 1850 Federal Census, Graham Tp., Jefferson Co., IN, page 507/254. 6. 1900 Federal Census Soundex, Fort Scott, 808 Hill St., Bourbon Co., KY, v.4, ed 36, sheet 3, line 34. 7. 1850 Federal Census, Graham Tp., Jefferson Co., IN, page 507/254. 8. 1860 Federal Census, Kinderhook Tp., Pike Co., IL, page 38. 9. A.T. Anderson, The History of Kansas, (1880), LINN COUNTY, page1416. 10. 1850 Federal Census, Graham Tp., Jefferson Co., IN, page 507/254. 11. Death Certificate - Missouri State Board of Health, El Dorado Springs, Cedar Co., MO. 12. 1850 Federal Census, Graham Tp., Jefferson Co., IN, page 507/254. 13. Death Certificate - Missouri State Board of Health 14. Brown Co., IL Court House, Recorded - Book C, pg. 44. 15. 1850 Federal Census, Graham Tp., Jefferson Co., IN, page 507/254. Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 20:38:43 -0900 From: Dianne To: "M. Wingert" Subject: Re: Gotschalk name late in 1800s? No relation While we are fairly sure that early day Gudgels in the US (like 1700s) were likely Quakers or Mennonites, the name Gudgel appears clearly as Gudgel and at times Gotshall well before the end of the 1700s and continues with those spellings from then on. By the 1800s any Gotschalk name is not related to Gudgels, in my estimation. The separation in spellings was clearly defined by the early 1800s. Dianne Gudgel-Holmes From: Gudgeld@aol.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:56:25 EST Subject: Re: William Teel, Ft. Branch The William Teel referred to here is the William Teel that married 'Old" Andrew's daughter Nancy. He is buried in the Gudgel Cemetery on the Gudgel farm just east of Owensville (which is 8 or 10 miles northwest of Ft. Branch. Dave Gudgel From: "Gardner Gudgel" Subject: Black Gudgels Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:29:34 -0800 When I was a little boy I went with my father Boyd Gudgel to the auction of his grandfather's farm somewhere in Kentucky. It had to be in the 1950's. Sometime during the auction he took me behind the barn and showed me where the slaves were buried, I remember a few tomb stones. Told me that his grandfather had taken really good care of them and some had taken his name upon being freed. This could be a place to start looking. Gerald Gudgel Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 19:01:50 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: Levin Wilson Gudgel I am looking for descendants of Levin Wilson G who was the son of Andrew G and Lucinda Thurman. He married Josephine Van Nada and they had two sons Guy and Doyle. So I am acutely looking for descendants of their sons. Levin was a lawyer. I'd like to know what happened to the family line. Either email me of phone me at 206 363 4272 if they don't have email. Did the line die out of are some of them still around? Doyal Message-ID: <38891B5D.9F75E3C0@eskimo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:52:13 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: William H I'm looking for descendants of William Henry G(7/18/1847-12/10/1905) His father was Andrew Gudgel. His father was William Gudgel m Lucinda Thurman. He went to South Bend WA before 1900 and his children were left in Evanston Indiana with their mother I presume. If you are descended or know of someone who is please contact me Doyal Gudgel 206 363 4272 for those who do not have email. Doyal Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 19:16:04 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: Harold Owen Gudgel I am looking for descendants of Harold Owen Gudgel the son of James Edward G MD. b 3/10/1858 James practiced in Cynthiana KY. Did he have any descendants? if so and anyone knows of them please contact me or have them call if no email. Doyal G 206 363 4272 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:06:08 -0500 From: Linda Finnell Subject: Re: Levin Wilson Gudgel I have the same information as you on Levin Wilson GUDGEL. I would also like to know more about Levin. Somewhere in my filing I have a copy of a letter he wrote to Rueben GUDGELL, attorney, discussing where the different lines of the GUDGEL(L)'s went. I have been looking for it for a long time and hopefully I have just filed it in the wrong file. I'm not even sure who sent it to me but I think it was dated about 1860's. He was very interested in the family. Linda Ralph Johnson wrote: > I am looking for descendants of Levin Wilson G who was the son of Andrew G and > Lucinda Thurman. He married Josephine Van Nada and they had two sons Guy and > Doyle. So I am acutely looking for descendants of their sons. Levin was a > lawyer. I'd like to know what happened to the family line. Either email me of > phone me at 206 363 4272 if they don't have email. Did the line die out of are > some of them still around? > Doyal Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:08:55 -0500 From: Linda Finnell Subject: Re: William H All I have on William Henry GUDGEL is that he married Lucy POTTS. Children were: Gilbert, William, Essie, Dan and Evelyn. No data on the children. Linda Ralph Johnson wrote: > I'm looking for descendants of William Henry G(7/18/1847-12/10/1905) His father > was Andrew Gudgel. His father was William Gudgel m Lucinda Thurman. He went to > South Bend WA before 1900 and his children were left in Evanston Indiana with > their mother I presume. If you are descended or know of someone who is please > contact me Doyal Gudgel 206 363 4272 for those who do not have email. > > Doyal Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:12:13 -0500 From: Linda Finnell Subject: Re: Harold Owen Gudgel I have no other data on the Harold Owen GUDGEL you speak of except that I have his name as Howard Owen GUDGEL. And are you sure his father, Dr. James Edward GUDGEL, practiced medicine in Cynthiana, KY or Cynthiana, Indiana? I have it as Cynthiana, Indiana. Linda Ralph Johnson wrote: > I am looking for descendants of Harold Owen Gudgel the son of James Edward G > MD. b 3/10/1858 James practiced in Cynthiana KY. Did he have any > descendants? if so and anyone knows of them please contact me or have them > call if no email. > Doyal G 206 363 4272 From: "Nancy Miller" Subject: Howard/Harold Gudgel Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:16:36 -0800 Doyal and Linda, It was Harold Owen Gudgel born 14 Jul 1888 in Cynthiana, IN with his doctor father signing the birth record filed in Posey Co., IN. Nancy Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 08:18:26 -0500 From: Linda Finnell To: Nancy Miller , Gudgel List Subject: Re: Howard/Harold Gudgel Thanks Nancy, for straightening this out about the name Harold or Howard. So many names........ Linda Nancy Miller wrote: > Doyal and Linda, > It was Harold Owen Gudgel born 14 Jul 1888 in Cynthiana, IN with his doctor > father signing the birth record filed in Posey Co., IN. > Nancy From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Nancy Teel Miller-Question Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 10:38:03 -0500 Hi Nancy- Since you knew about the name of Harold Owen GUDGEL, son of James Edward = GUDGEL, MD and Elizabeth Tenporance Smith, would you have other = information about this family? I have names of the children and a few dates but would like to know more = (dob, dod, place of birth, place of death, spouses, locations, etc.) Thanks Nancy. Linda Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 10:51:37 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: Dr. Harry Gudgel I am interested in contacting living descendants of this Dr. Harry Gudgel born October 7, 1877 in Hazelton Gibson Co Indiana. He married Emma Harral or Horral (?) If you know of, or are one, please email me or telephone 206 363 4272 Harry's father was John Franklin so if you know of any descendants of the other children of John Franklin I would like to talk to them too. Doyal Gudgel From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: New information Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:54:13 -0500 I did a search today for GUDGEL on the FTN surname search page and found = this item of interest" On a WALLACE family Home Page the following info.: Levin Wilson GUDGEL, attorney in Princeton, IN was married twice! (1) Josephine VanNada. Marr. December 20, 1882. 2 children: Doyle- gave no name for spouse but had 1 child, a girl, named Dorothy = GUDGEL, who marr. a CRUMBAKER. Guy- b. 1883, d. 1902 buried Maple Hill Cemetery, Princeton, IN. (2) Eliza Jane Kirk FARMER-marr. October 25, 1917. No children listed. (Note: I found several dates that did not agree with what I had. For = instance, the date of birth for Levin Wilson GUDGEL was June 25, = 1882--way off from what I had. Can anyone give me a documented = birthdate for sure?) A couple fo other areas of interst on this page was: (1) James Edward GUDGEL, MD (1858-1938). Marr. 1st-Mabel STINNETT-no other data. (2) Elizabeth T. SMITH (Sept. 3, 1886-April 18, 1919) children: Marjorie-died as an infant Eva-1886-1890 Howard Owen- 1887-1947 Helen-b. Dec. 28, 1897, marr. Lon CULLEY. (Note: they also had Howard instead of Harold....???) The other item was the sister of Levin Wilson GUDGEL: Elnora GUDGET (sic.?) b. May 10, 1860, d. November 3, 1934 Marr. (1) Andrew Nixon HULL -marr. April 4, 1888, (b. 1860, d. July 19, = 1900. Andrew bur. Blythe Cem., IN (didn't say what town). (2) Jesse MAUCK-marr. October 12, 1903 (Note: I would beleive the names were more correct than some of these = dates. Be cautious in assuming these dates and check other sources). *********************************************************************** Another unidentified GUDGEL found on the net: Dorothy Mae McCUNE b. August 16, 1904, Gresham, NE, d. December 7, 1960 = in Omaha, NE.=20 Marr. (1) October 4, 1928 in Crete, NE to John William GUDGEL. One child = listed: Constance Mae GUDGEL JOHNSON-b. March 3, 1931 North Loup, NE. Married (2) Charles Henry JOHNSON-July 24, 1942 in Kearney, NE (Note: I would think this means that the child by the first marriage was = 11 when her mother remarried and maybe Mr. Johnson adopted her..?? Who = is this John William GUDGEL? Anyone know this family? Thanks- Linda- from snow covered KY. Major snowstorm coming into the Bluegrass the = next few days. =20 From: Gudgeld@aol.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 00:50:50 EST Subject: Re: New information In a message dated 01/22/2000 6:54:08 PM US Mountain Standard Time, lfinnell@lex.infi.net writes: > Who is this John William GUDGEL? Anyone know this family? > Linda; There were a lot of Gudgel's in York County, Nebraska (the county Gresham is located in). As far as I know they were all descendants of Marion Francis and Rebecca VALENTINE GUDGEL. They had a son named John William Gudgel that was born in Illinois before they moved to Nebraska. This John William GUDGEL was born in Henderson Co., IL on November 11, 1868, was married twice and died of appendicitus on March 21, 1900 at Stratton, Nebraska. This can't be the same John William GUDGEL because the dates don't match, but he is the only John William GUDGEL I have in Nebraska. I will poke around a little more tomorrow when I am not so tired and see what I can find. Dave Gudgel From: "Nancy Miller" Subject: Questions Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 22:06:41 -0800 Linda, Doyal, et al I may be able to help with some of the questions. I have recently been gathering together information from different sources, so I'll see if I can help. What would help would be if they hadn't named their kids such similar names! We first got confused on the two brothers that were doctors: J. E. and J. F. Gudgel. Now I think we are confused (I know I was!) with Harold Owen (b.1888, son of James Edward) and Harry B. (b.1877 son of John Franklin). I believe (not really sure) that both Harold and Harry were doctors which compounds the confusion. I initially found 2 of the children of James Edward and Elizabeth T. "Lizzie" Smith Gudgel, in the Turman book. Two others I found in the Posey County cemetery book (Liberty Cemetery, Smith Twp. along with their parents). The first three are the only children with surname GUDGEL in the Posey County birth records that I recently acquired. I just realized that I have a marriage date of 3 Sep 1886 for James Edward and Lizzie Smith Gudgel and a birth date of 18 Oct 1886 for Eva Gudgel. I have several sources for her birth date, but not sure where I got the marriage date. And I have nothing on a first marriage, can neither confirm nor deny that one. Eva died 22 Feb 1890. Then came Harold Owen, previously given. Then Margery, born 1 Oct 1895, died 31 May 1896. And I have Helen b.28 Dec 1897 (from Turman). Doyal, looking for descendants of John Franklin Gudgel, I believe there are a couple of them on the list, as one responded when I was first trying to straighten out the Dr. Gudgel bit. If you don't hear in a couple of days I will try and find the person later. And I believe I will leave what I know about Levin Wilson Gudgel for another day. Spent most of today in Simi Valley with my two grandsons (ages almost 6 years and 7 months) and I'm tired! Nancy From: "Nancy Miller" Subject: Levin W. Gudgel Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:28:09 -0800 There is a stone listed in the Columbia Township, Gibson County cemetery book, in the Forsythe Cemetery (this book has no page numbers nor index) for Andrew and Elvira Gudgel and their 8 children. They all have birth dates, but not all have death dates, probably because they are not buried there. But this is one large stone and it lists "Hon. Levin W. Son of A & E 06-26-1850". Now I don't know if mistakes have occurred in the transcription or what, but this is the same date as is given for Lucy F. Checking the 1850 census of Columbia Township we find Lucy age 1/12, so I believe that Levin was born 26 Jul 1854 (per Turman's book, p.395), since this fits with his age being 6 in the 1860 Columbia Township census. Turman's book also confirms Levin's marriage date (20 Dec 1882) that Linda found, and I had found in the Gibson Co. marriages. Also in those marriages, I found Doyle V. Gudgel (Levin's son b.25 Nov 1885) married Marie Moore on 12 Sep 1907. Their daughter Dorotha J. Gudgel (b.14 Jan 1909) was found in the Gibson Co. birth records. Levin's other son, Guy M. Gudgel was born 8 Nov 1883 and died 17 Apr 1902 - this from Gibson Co. birth and death records. I have no book listing the Maple Hill Cemetery, so that may be where Levin is too. If such a book exists, I haven't heard of it. As for James Edward Gudgel's other marriage, I think the Wallace page has the order reversed. Turman mentions a second wife after Lizzie's death. It was in 1921 and it could be this Mabel Stinnettt - I can't read it in my copy of the book. But I think that Lizzie Smith was the first and the mother of his children. As for Andrew N. Hull (husband of Elnora Gudgel) I find him listed (30 Nov 1860-19 Jul 1900) in the Montgomery Township cemetery book of Gibson Co. in the David Smith-Bethel Cemetery. Nancy From: "Nancy Miller" Subject: Elnora GUdgel Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:47:01 -0800 Finally found Elnora GUDGEL HULL MUCK in the same cemetery where she was originally listed - Forsythe in Columbia Township. She is listed with Jesse E. MUCK (no "A" in the surname) and the years given agree with what Linda had (1860-1934 for Elnora) and Jesse is given as 1861-1935. Does anyone have any children for Elnora by either husband? Nancy Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:29:37 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: Your grandma I'm still accepting stories your grandma. What were your impressions. She was from another generation. Before rhe jet age and many of the things we have now. She was a different person. What was she like? Doyal From: EGudgel@aol.com Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:15:21 EST Subject: Re: Oldest Gudgel and longest married Gudgel To: Doukel@aol.com Congratulation! Charline and I were married in 1944...so we are newly weds. Both our parents were married well over 50 years..only the weak males kept them from exceeding your wonderful record. My mother lived 29 years after William T. Gudgel died at 76. With proper respect..Ed G. Fort Myers From: Bob Gudgel Subject: gudgelphotos index Well, the index file in my gudgelphotos directory seems to have been emptied. I sure hope I can find a backup of it or I won't know what the pictures are except by name. If anyone has a backup of it, please send it to me. the file name was INDEX Thanks, Bob Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:05:26 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: Frightening This is wild, but I found this website that uses government files to find an actual photograph of ANYBODY. I was shocked to find that with no trouble at all, it brought up an (old) picture of me. You should see if they have you in the database too! R http://209.69.229.50/FBI/default.asp?B=&P=0303&R=0104 My oh my!! What a striking resemblance we are! Very funny, Doyal. Made for a good laugh for today. Linda Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 14:41:09 -0600 From: "William W. Woodfill" Subject: remove From: "William \"Bill\" Webb" Subject: Gudgel's on the List Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:34:07 -0600 Evening All, Is there a Judith Myers or Joe Thacker on the List? Taking some time during halftime to do a little surfing and found these folks in MyFamily.com posting about GUDGEL ancestors. Wondered if they were on the List or knew about it. Bill Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:51:34 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Gudgel Subject: Gudgels on the list Bill, if they're not on the list, go ahead and email them and invite them. Where did you see them on myfamily.com? boB Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:09:06 -0400 From: jim.hall@ns.sympatico.ca (jim hall) Subject: Henry T. Gudgel and Candasia Gudgel Hello everyone: Jim and I have been trying to build on the information we have been so graciously provided with from the nice people subscribing here. However, we now have a few unanswered questions we thought someone out there may be able to answer for us. With regard to Henry T. Gudgel who married Candasia Gudgel: How many children did they have in total? We think there was my grandfather, William Henry, Leroy, Andrew, Sadie, Bessie, and one other??? Did Leroy ever marry? Children? How about Andrew? " We have no info on Dates for birth, marriage, or death for either Sadie or Bessie. And finally, is there anyone out there of this family line active on the Gudgel web site or genealogy in general? Sure would appreciate any information that anyone could provide. Thanks a bunch. It is pouring rain here today, finally melting away the feet of snow we received here in Nova Scotia last week. Bye4now, Shirley Hall From: "Stacey Gudgel" Subject: Death Certificates Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:33:55 -0500 I was just wondering if anyone could tell me where I could look up death = certificates on the web. I have read of people mentioning it several = times, but I can't find a page that doesn't try to rip you off for = "free" information. Thanks Stacey Gudgel Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 19:57:31 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson To: jim.hall@ns.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: Henry T. Gudgel and Candasia Gudgel Candacy Starks and Henry T. LeRoy married. I have no information. Andrew Married Mary Faust. d December 11, 1957. Ill Andrew Helen Gudgel Caroline Gudgel Thomas Gudgel Margaret Gudgel Dorothy Gudgel John Gudgel Eugene Gudgel Andrew, LeRoy, William, Bessie, Thomas Jefferson Gudgel There is more information in Bob Gudgel's web page. Download the archived ged files and you can merge interested information if you have Family Tree Maker or other good program.. Doyal jim hall wrote: > > Hello everyone: > > Jim and I have been trying to build on the information we have been so > graciously provided with from the nice people subscribing here. Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 17:38:46 -0800 From: GudgelDoc@cs.com Subject: subscribe From: Gudgeld@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:58:31 EST Subject: Personal Information On Line We have discussed this previously on the Gudgel page, but I wanted to pass this along. I know that I seem to feel more strongly about this than most people on this page, but I think it is important, so here it is. Dave Gudgel Subj: [ILMENARD] Using Info on Living People Date: 02/04/2000 10:24:30 AM US Mountain Standard Time From: clrothwell@mindspring.com (Cheryl Rothwell) Posting information on living people is against the rules. Queries seeking such information are rejected by the USGenWeb Project. Others online are not so delicate. Intelligent people, even unintelligent but decent people, do not post information about living people. Most genealogy programs allow the user to privatize information about living people but, unfortunately, some don't use that feature. Such thoughtless and inconsiderate behavior jeopardizes people's security. Do you know how many banks use your mother's maiden name as your password? With information easily gleaned from these online GEDCOM collectors, a criminal can steal from you. That is just the tip of the iceberg. Since there is a growing number of people who are careless with such things as verification of their information other damages may occur. Some seem bent on uploading as much as they can to get their name online without regard for privacy or accuracy. I have brought this up before. That may be why I have been contacted by a group which is talking of suing people who do this and, of course, the services [Ancestry.com, FTM, etc] who post such uploads. They have done their homework and can detail out who has posted what about you, in this case, me. If these amateurs can do it think what criminals can do! This is very troubling. While I am extremely irritated at the inconsiderate behavoir of the posters involved and the GEDCOM collectors I also realize that such litigation could mean the end of genealogy online. I am not convinced there is any loss in getting rid of user submitted gedcoms since the ones I have checked are full of errors but I certainly wish to keep old records available, online and free for all. When you talk to genealogists of any ilk please encourage them not to post information on living people anywhere. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 21:13:51 -0900 From: Dianne Subject: Re: Hereford Cattle & James R. Gudgell I asked a few weeks ago if anyone wanted information on the story of Hereford cattle and one Gudgel's part in bringing it to America. One person replied that she was interested. So here is what I know. I would appreciate others who know more on this subject to correct or add to the data, please. James Robinson Gudgell was born in 1849 in Bath Co, KY. His parents were Joseph and Louise (Groves) Gudgell (both born in KY). Joseph was a business man with banking interests. James was educated in Kentucky and graduated from the University of Virginia. He also attended the University of Heidelberg, Germany. He was interested in the sciences and medicine. He became a staunch Democrat, attended the Baptist church, and was a Mason during his residence in Colorado. Upon his return from Germany, he entered the banking business in Kansas City, MO. Eventually he and his brother Charles, along with 3 others went into the cattle raising business in Colorado. They had large ranches there as well as the Pan Handle ranch in Texas and the "Ox" ranch in Montana. James imported the first Pole Angus for his area of the country, and one of the first herds of Herefords in the US. His business became known as Gudgell and Simpson and was recognized as a leader in cattle breeding. The Hereford strain bred by Gudgell and Simpson became the favorite of cattlemen all over the western US. The first public sale of purebred Herefords west of the Mississippi River was held in 1879. The Hereford farm in Independence, Missouri operated from 1883-1895 with an earlier farm existing close to Greenwood. In 1895, the farm moved again, a few miles away. In 1909 the cattle were moved to Edmond, Kansas. The Gudgell and Simpson herd was finally sold off in a memorable sale at Independence in 1916. Gudgell's partner, Thomas Simpson, was also from Bath Co, Kentucky. He served as a sort of guardian to James and his brother Charles when their father died. The formal partnership of Gudgell and Simpson was formed in 1880. Herefords have a distinctive red coloring with white face and belly. Gudgell's breed attained descent from a particularly well-known bull named "Anxiety IV" who was imported from England in 1881. This bull was not a show bull and did not possess any outstanding qualities except he had especially heavy hindquarters for that time and had short legs with heavy bones. And he possessed the ability to transmit these desirable characteristics. James married Lettie Lee Rochester in 1887. Lettie's father was Col. C. Rochester of Danville, KY and a descendent of the founder of Rochester, NY. Upon James' death, Mrs Gudgell wrote of his rare qualities which included always being a gentleman, possessing a keen appreciation of the beauty in nature and art, being generous to a fault, and despising hypocrisy. James died in Independence, MO in 1897. Brother Charles (death date unknown) is buried in Mt Washington Cemetery, Jackson Co. MO. References: Encyclopedia of the History of Missouri, Vol. III, edited by Howard Conard. 1901 "Today's Hereford Cattle Can Claim Descent from Herd Developed Here," Jackson County Historical Society Journal, Fall, 1963, p.10-11. From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: James Robinson GUDGELL and Charles GUDGELL Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 18:27:16 -0500 Hi Everybody- Thanks Dianne, for submitting the info. on James and Charles GUDGELL and = their interests in the Hereford Cattle business in MO. Your timing is = great because I had finished going through all of the Abraham GUDGEL = files and posting the data to update my files so it was time to start on = another child of Andrew. Last night I had pulled out the Andrew GUDGEL(L), Jr. notebook and had = decided that's where I would start. James and Charles GUDGELL were = grandsons of Andrew, Jr. I am sure I will find more as I get into these = stacks , but for now the only thing I will add about Charles and = James are the following notes: James Robinson GUDGELL's actual date of birth was September 26, 1849 in = Bath Co., KY. Date of death was June 2, 1897 in Independence, Jackson = Co., MO. Does anyone know if James had any children?=20 Charles GUDGELL -From census records in MO I found him listed with a = wife (Bell Laura?)-will give you the year when I find them. Children = listed were: Lula Belle GUDGELL-b. 1871, MO. Marr. 1891 to Henry S. BOICE = (1860-1919). =20 Frank O. GUDGELL- b. September, 1873, MO Charles D. GUDGELL-b. August, 1888 For those who want to update their own records I will post the family of = Charles and James parents: Joseph GUDGELL (son of Andrew GUDGELL, Jr. and Jane MITCHELL) b. = September 20, 1801 KY, d. May 13, 1864. Married after 1830 to Louisa J. = GROVES (b. June 20, 1814 KY, d. July 28, 1861) Known children of this union: Mary GUDGELL-b. abt. 1834 KY Elizabeth GUDGELL-b. September 9, 1835 KY John Andrew GUDGELL-b. May 11, 1840 KY, d. May 16, 1863 Ephriam Oliver GUDGELL-b. abt. 1842 KY Charles GUDGELL-b. February 10, 1847 Sharpsburg, Bath Co., KY. Marr. = (Bell Laura??) James Robinson GUDGELL-b. September 26, 1849 Bath Co., KY, d. June 2, = 1897 Jackson Co., MO. Marr. June 30, 1887 to Lettie Lee Rochester of = Danville, KY. I have lots of documents I need to enter in my FTM files and as I do = this I will also post them to the list as time permits. So......everybody get out your Andrew, Jr. stuff and let's see what we = can come up with. Later, Linda From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Allen GUDGELL, son of who? Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 18:46:37 -0500 I am reluctant to begin this line of Andrew GUDGELL, Jr. because it is = questionable as to whether or not Allen GUDGELL of Bath Co., KY is his = son. Allen was born in 1788 in Bath Co., KY. Andrew, Jr. first appears = in 1791 in KY along with his father, Andrew, Sr. Andrew, Jr. first = appears in Bath Co., KY in 1792, There are researchers who have debated that Allen is the son of Andrew, = Sr. but I have never seen his name connected with Andrew, Sr. not have I = seen evidence that ANdrew, Sr. ever resided in Bath Co., KY. Another = researcher of the McCLURE family even suggested that Andrew, Jr. may = have been married to someone else before his marriage to Jane MITCHELL, = who he married in Woodford Co., KY January 10. 1792. I would like some discussion on this parentage of Allen GUDGELL if = anyone cares to comment. I have never found any evidence of Allen's = parentage, which is surprising when you think about his life in Bath Co. = He was very involved in politics and very well known in the community. = Even in his biography in the History of Bath Co. there is no mention of = his parents names. Linda Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 19:21:23 -0900 From: Dianne To: Linda Gudgel Finnell Subject: Re: Allen GUDGELL, son of who? Linda and all, If Allen G was born in Bath Co, Ky in 1788 and we are pretty sure this is accurate, then what do those court records of Old Andrew and A jr tell us about their whereabouts? We know that A sr sold some land in PA in 1788 but some of it was in late '88. Of course we may not know for sure he was actually present to sign the papers, perhaps we should look again. And we don't know where A jr was in that yr, right? So what about Daniel Gudgel? Do we know if he was in Ky then? We have never figured out where he fits into things anyway, and maybe we will in time. Do we know any of Allen's descendents today? It would be nice to hook up with them for any family lore. Dianne Gudgel-Holmes From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Livingston Co., MO Cemetery list- GUDGELL connections Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:44:10 -0500 Evenin' everybody- I was surfing around the interenet and found the following cemetery listings in Livingston Co., MO. These GUDGELL's are some of the KY bunch that went to MO. This Missouri line is part of the large "Missouri GUDGEL's" file that I have been trying to break through for a long time. Would appreciate any comments or additions, etc. if anyone knows. I have seen the listing before from another source but this one is more in depth and has recently been added to the Gen Web site I believe. GREGORY (LAWSON) CEMETERY Located NE/4 Sec 2, Twp 56, Range 25, Monroe Township, 3 miles North of Ludlow on Route D, East 1/4 mile to large barn on South side of road. Between barns with a board fence around it. 10 gravestones, 1 large stone moved to Mooresville Cemetery. First Row: Spencer GREGORY Lovey GREGORY Lovey M. GUDGELL John T. GUDGELL (note: New stones, no dates. Wonder who put these stones up?) Alice E., dau. of R.E. and Juilla (sic??) GUDGELL b. Sept. 14, 1862 d. July 27, 186 (last number broken) aged (broken) Emma F., wife of J.T. JENNINGS d. January 27, 1896 aged 51 yrs., 1mo., 18 days James T. JENNINGS b. July 25, 1836 d. April 13, 1899 aged 62 yrs., 8 mo., 18 days Second Row: Fanny A., wife of M.R. GREGORY b. July 16, 1800 d. November 17, 1856 The cares of life are o'er And I at rest for ever more Julien M. GUDGELL (new stone, no dates) Lovey C., wife of J.M. JARVIS d. May 12, 1858 aged 22 yrs., 4 mos., 22 days. A large obelisk in Mooresville Cemetery, placed there in mid-twentieth century according to Lela Benson LAWSON, bears these inscriptions: West Side: To the memory of Mildred GUDGELL LAWSON mother of Gregory H. LAWSON January 15, 1843 - February 7, 1876 North Side: Spencer H. GREGORY January 8, 1790 - September 8, 1871 Lovey GREGORY, his wife February 20, 1790 - December 7, 1849 John T. GUDGELL November 21, 1819 - January 8, 1865 Lovey M. GUDGELL, his wife November 20, 1819 - April 28, 1847 Julien M. GUDGELL December 26, 1846 - March 27, 1906 South Side: J.T. JENNINGS July 25, 1836 - April 13, 1899 Emma JENNINGS, his wife December 9, 1844 - January 27, 1896 Lela Benson LAWSON (1904- ) said that no graves were moved from Gregory Cemetery to Mooresville Cemetery. Hope this helps someone. Linda Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 13:23:34 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Gudgel Subject: 115 Year old Gudgel? I got this mailer from a company in Denver that gathers up information (public mainly) on names and makes "family yearbooks" on those names. One thing listed on the "teaser" mailing was "Gudgel records, Myrna Gudgel set the family longevity record. Living 1850-1965 in IOWA 115.6 YRS" Is this one we're aware of? Is it true I wonder? The place that sends out the letters was... PUTYOURNAMEHERE Family Heritage Center 1181 S. Parker Rd. #105 Denver, CO 80231 Also, at the top of the letter it said... "Maxwell and Tina Gudgel n.d.p. announce the publication of: The Year 2000 Gudgel Family Yearbook" I think that "Maxwell" is a guy that works for the company and I don't know who the Tina Gudgel would be, and what the heck does "n.d.p." mean? Bob Dianne G-H Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 12:35:34 -0900 From: Dianne To: Bob Gudgel Subject: Re: 115 Year old Gudgel? Bob, I think this family heritage center is a business and that if you were to enter any other family name--like Jones or Barnett, that you would find similar information. Dianne G-H From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: GUDGEL 2000 Yearbook Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:37:22 -0500 Bob- Everyone needs to know that this is a very generic newsletter that I have seen (yes, I got suckered in several years ago ). I had to know if it was legit and it wasn't. I was very disappointed. It listed some info. of GUDGEL's that could have been obtained from any number of sources that we have access too. I also think they stretch the truth a lot too. And, of course, they try and sell you reunion T-shirts, surname bumper stickers, etc.....anything to make a buck. As far as the GUDGEL 2000 yearbook...that would be interesting to see but I feel sure it would have the same basic info. and layout as any other name they chose. Anyone else have similiar experience or am I the only one that they hooked , LOL! Linda From: Bob Gudgel Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:35:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: 115 Yr old Gudgel. Dianne, (and others), I know this is a business, and I searched for their address (1181 S parker rd) and found other names with the same outfit, *BUT*, I am still wondering about this Myrna Gudgel 1850-1965 and who she was if this is real. I searched the mail list archives and the web and did not find Myrna Gudgel. Does someone have her listed in their genealogy files? (I am assuming Myrna is a she) boB Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 06:41:41 -0900 From: Dianne Subject: Re: 115 Yr old Gudgel. Bob, Yes, it is good to keep checking on things that might result in a few surprises. I am glad you are trying to track "Myrna" down.Good Luck. Dianne G-H Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 20:27:04 -0800 From: Michael Witherspoon Subject: subscribe ===== Michael Witherspoon michael_witherspoon@yahoo.com http://members.tripod.com/~witherspoon/ http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/3432/ Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:20:30 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: Andrew Does anyone know about which Andrew Gudgel (Gudshall) was living in Woodford county Kentucky in 1810? I know there were 8 in the family and they had no slaves. The 1810 census probably spelled the name Gudshall. With at least 6 children in the family he was probably 40 years old. Which would made him born somewhere around 1770 more or less. Versailles is in Woodford county. Who were his children. Then I can connect him to an Andrew Gudgel, (Gudgell, Gudshall) Doyal Gudgel From: "gudgelkp" Subject: Andrew Gudgell Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:37:21 -0800 Doyle, I have Andrew Gudgell son of old Andrew and Catherine ? b. 1774 d = 1/14/1840 Spouse: Jane Mitchell b. 2/14/1778 d 2/20/1868 Children: Polly Gudgell b. abt 1794 Rebecca b.abt 1796 Elizabeth b. abt 1798 Joseph b. 9/20/1801 Rezin b. 1807 I think this is who you looking for. Kim G Marysville Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:02:47 -0900 From: Dianne Subject: Re: Andrew Jr and Sr? Dear Gudgel Cousins, I ran across something recently and don't know if I passed it along or not. But the resource noted that in the 1700s (until an unknown time), one could find the name Jr applied to a man even though his father was not of the same first name . In other words, Andrew Jr might not be the son of the person we call Andrew, Sr. This could happen when two men of different ages but of the same name lived in the same community. I don't know if any of you have run across this information and I am not proposing that this is the case with our Andrew Jr and Sr. But it IS something to keep in mind. Dianne Gudgel-Holmes Anchorage Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:29:49 -0800 From: Ralph Johnson To: gudgelkp Subject: Re: Andrew Gudgell I know about these people but am not sure. Was this the 1810 census and are they in Woodford County? My question came up because I saw them listed in the book "History of Woodford County" so the Andrew I am thinking of was in Woodford County. The book must have got its information from a census. If that is the case your list might not be the same people because the book listed 8 people in the family. There are only 7 names in your list. If someone could tell me if Kim's names are from Woodford County then we need to know it is 1810 for sure. If Kim's list is not the same people in the book I refer above then perhaps we have another Andrew to kick around. BTW My next Newsletter has proof that Henry T. d 11/17/61 son of William did not have the middle name Thomas. > gudgelkp wrote: > > Doyle, > > I have Andrew Gudgell son of old Andrew and Catherine ? > b. 1774 d 1/14/1840 > Spouse: Jane Mitchell b. 2/14/1778 d 2/20/1868 > > Children: Polly Gudgell b. abt 1794 > Rebecca b.abt 1796 > Elizabeth b. abt 1798 > Joseph b. 9/20/1801 > Rezin b. 1807 > > I think this is who you looking for. > > Kim G > Marysville > From chuckgross@mindspring.com Thu Feb 17 22:47:54 2000 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:08:06 -0500 From: chuckgross@mindspring.com Subject: Allen Gudgell's Mother I ran across one Bath County, KY researcher's notes that reported that Allen Gudgell was the son of Andrew Gudgell, Jr. and his first wife. Does anyone have any information about another wife for Andrew Jr. He married Janet Mitchell 12 Jan 1792 and Allen was born in 1788. This would lead you to think that Allen's mother died and Andrew, Jr. remarried. Chuck Gross From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Allen GUDGELL's mother Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:25:54 -0500 Thank you Chuck Gross for your statement about the possibility of Andrew GUDGELL' Jr. possibly being married prior to his marriage in 1792 to Jane MITCHELL in Woodford Co., KY. I think I must be one of the few that believe that is true also. I don't know who'se research you found in Bath Co. but I know a gentleman who researches the McCLURE surname and he also thinks there was a previous marriage that resulted in the birth of Allen GUDGELL. I am pretty tied up right now but in the next few days I will try to do some research on Andrew, Jr, in Woodford Co. I need to look at the early tax lists here again. But I keep thinking about Allen being born in 1788 and where these families were at that time. The earliest tax lists I have seen were the original records and both Andrew's show up here in Woodford Co. I think it was 1795 but will confirm that in a few days. Supposedly Andrew, Sr. and families came to Kentucky from PA about 1789 but if Allen was born in 1788 they must have been here earlier than we thought. I will tell you another gut feeling I have. I think Andrew, Sr. was somewhere else in KY before coming to Woodford Co. Maybe a short time but I think it was in what is now Madison Co., KY (then Lincoln Co.). Remember also that at one time Woodford Co., KY extended all the way north to the Ohio River. There is a Silver Creek there and if you remember Silver Creek is where Andrew, Sr. was trying to build his mill (according to earlier family lore and histories). I have never found any reference to a Silver Creek in the area of Woodford Co., KY and I've spent a lot of time looking at old maps and deeds here. Also, Dianne- I speak of Andrew, Jr. and Sr. only to distinguish son from father. I have seen reference to the Jr. and Sr. at some points but not sure they were distinguished as such in the earlier tax records. I will check on that. More Later, I'm off to bed. Linda From: "Mia K. Fleegel" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:50:03 EDT Subject: Allen Gudgell In the Bath County History article it states that Allen grew up on the family farm and it gives the approximate location. (I'm at work so can't quote directly). Does anyone have the land records of that farm to see who owned it in 1788? Maybe that would tell us who his parents were. Mia From: "Mia K. Fleegel" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:54:24 EDT Subject: Re: Andrew Jr and Sr? Yes Diane, I have also heard this AND I have also understood that the Jr. and Sr. terms changed over time. When the older Sr. died the younger Jr. then became the Sr. if another person with that name lived in the community. Thus the same person would be a Jr. in one year and a Sr. in another. You know this is just to confuse us all : ) Mia **************************************************************** Date forwarded: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:00:23 -0800 Date sent: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:02:47 -0900 From: Dianne Send reply to: dianeh@corecom.net To: Gudgel Family Page Subject: Re: Andrew Jr and Sr? Forwarded by: gudgel-list@eskimo.com Dear Gudgel Cousins, I ran across something recently and don't know if I passed it along or not. But the resource noted that in the 1700s (until an unknown time), one could find the name Jr applied to a man even though his father was not of the same first name . In other words, Andrew Jr might not be the son of the person we call Andrew, Sr. This could happen when two men of different ages but of the same name lived in the same community. I don't know if any of you have run across this information and I am not proposing that this is the case with our Andrew Jr and Sr. But it IS something to keep in mind. Dianne Gudgel-Holmes Anchorage Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 07:53:24 -0900 From: Dianne To: "Mia K. Fleegel" Subject: Re: Andrew Jr and Sr? Mia, Thanks for the update on the above problem. Do you mean (like I understand) that the two people might not even be related? Dianne G-H From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: BOICOURT & TROUTMAN marr. GUDGEL *HELP!* Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 21:19:59 -0500 Hi folks- I found something and I am looking for someone to help me retrieve it. (Sounds like the "I have fallen and I can't get up" commercial. LOL!!). I think Jean BOICOURT is subbed to this list and she has been looking for a long time for anything on Marie GUDGEL who marr. Lloyd Clarence BOICOURT. Well, I think I've found it on a free database of GEDCOM's on Ancestry.com...through the Family.com page. Also someone was looking for data on Amos GUDGEL and Mary TROUTMAN and there are entries there also for that family line. The names are listed and it says I can contact the submitter and/or download the original file. When I click on download original file I get 2 options: (1) Self Extracting Archive (.exe file), then # of bytes. and (2) Zip Archive (.zip file), then # of bytes If I download the Self Extracting file does that mean I can read it there or where will it import to? Can someone tell me how to do this? I don't want to clutter up my computer with a lot of unwanted data and these are usually pretty good size files I'd say. Would like for someone to help me out and explain how it works befoer I get into this. After my Christmas Day crash I am pretty gun-shy right now . If you haven't tried the Family.com searches I think it would be worth your time. I also connected with a line of GUDGEL's and THACKER's on the Message Boards. I'll be waiting for my knight/knightess (is that a word?) in shining armor to help me out! Linda From: Gudgeld@aol.com Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 14:44:49 EST Subject: Re: BOICOURT & TROUTMAN marr. GUDGEL *HELP!* To: lfinnell@lex.infi.net, gudgel-list@eskimo.com Linda; I would just download the *.exe file to a temporary site, such as "My Documents". You might want to create a folder called "Temp" under My Documents to put it in so you can find all the pieces and delete them when you are through. When you double click on the downloaded file, it should create a GEDCOM file that you can import into FTM. When you are through, you can delete everything by deleting all the files that you downloaded or that got created by the self executable file and that FTM created. They should all be in the same Temp folder. Dave Gudgel From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Will of Andrew GUDGELL, Bath Co., KY Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:55:43 -0500 Hi folks- I have had little time to begin on gathering all of my loose date on Andrew GUDGELL (Jr.) and Jan MITCHELL but tonight I did work on it a little while. So to begin I am submitting the Will of Andrew GUDGELL (the Will doesn't say Junior but I will use it to distinguish which Andrew. When I run across a notation that specifically mentions Jr. or Sr. I will tell you so. BTW, I don't have the source of his Will as far as Book, page, etc. so if someone has it please speak up. I may have it somewhere else but at the moment I don't. ******************************************** Will of Andrew GUDGELL, April Court, 1840 Bath Co., Kentucky In the name of God amen, I Andrew GUDGELL of the County of Bath and Commonwealth of Kentucky, being sick and weak in body, but of sound mind and disposing memory (for which I Thank Almighty God) and calling to mind the uncertainty of human life and being desirous to dispose of all such worldly estate as it hath pleased God to blefs me with I give and bequeath the same in manner following, that is to say. 1st I give to my daughter Polly DUNLAP and her heirs and afsigns forever, the sum of one dollar she and her heirs having heretofore received a portion of my estate. 2nd To my daughter Rebecca MITCHELL, she having likewise heretofore received a portion of my estate, I give the sum of one dollar. 3rd I give Janet G. DUNLAP the only heir of my deceased daughter, Elizabeth DUNLAP, the sum of one dollar. 4th I give to the heirs of my deceased son, Rezin GUDGEL the sum of one dollar each. 5th The rest of my estate both real and personal and of what nature and kind soever it may be, not herein particularily disposed of I desire after the payment of of My funeral expenses, shall be given to my son Joseph GUDGEL, all which I give to him, his heirs, executors, administrators and afsigns forever. and lastly I do hereby constitute and appoint my son, Joseph GUDGELL executor of this my last will and testament, here by revoking all other or former wills or testaments by me heretofore made. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal this fourth day of January Eighteen hundred and Forty. Andrew GUDGELL {Seal} Signed, sealed, published & declared As and for the last will and testament Of the above named Andrew GUDGELL, In the presence of us, John W.(Tydings?) John Cunningham Witnesses State of Kentucky Bath County April Court 1840 I, Wm. M. Sudduth, clerk of the court for the county aforesaid do certify that this last will and testament of Andrew GUDGELL was this day produced in open court, proven by the admission of John W. Tydings and John Cunningham, the subscribing witnefses thereto and ordered to be recorded whereupon the same hath been duly admitted to record in my office under my hand this 13th Apl, 1840. Wm. M. Sudduth, Clk By Dan'l P. Moseley, DC Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 19:08:47 -0800 (PST) From: Ralph Johnson Subject: A terrible story This story appeared in Independence Kansas. .. There is a Gudgell street mentioned. Does anyone know where the street is or anything about it? Gudgel's must have been prominent there. I think I prefer to repeat the story rather than trying to explain it in my own words. February 23, 2000 By Robert Hite The Examiner A man was arraigned on second-degree murder charges today in the gruesome death of a 6-year-old Independence boy after the carjacking of his mother's sport utility vehicle. The boy was dragged more than four miles at high speeds Tuesday afternoon. Kim Davis, 34, of Kansas City was being held without bond after being arraigned in Jackson County Circuit Court in Independence this morning on charges of second-degree murder, kidnapping and facilitating a felony, abuse of a child, and second-degree robbery. The charge of abuse of a child means Davis "knowingly inflicted cruel and inhuman punishment," according to the indictment. Two of the charges, second-degree murder and abuse of a child, carrying possible sentences of life in prison. His next court appearance is set for March 8. About a dozen relatives of 6-year-old Jake D. Robel were at the arraignment, as were about a dozen police officers. Davis was brought into court wearing a bullet-proof vest. The crime started at about 4:30 p.m. at the Mr. Goodcents Subs & Pastas parking lot at Missouri 291 and Hidden Valley Road. Galen Hoff, principal at Glendale Elementary School, said Christy Robel, of Blue Springs, picked up her son after school between 3:45 and 4 p.m. as she did every day. Jake lived with his father, Greg, in Independence. Sgt. Gregg Wilkinson of the Independence Police Department said Christy Robel went into the restaurant and left Jake in her blue-green Blazer with the engine running. A man jumped into the Blazer and started to drive off, apparently thinking he had pushed the boy out of the car. "As I understand it, the mother was trying to get the kid out of the car when he took off," said Police Chief Gary George. The boy got tangled up in the seat belt and dangled outside the rear door on the driver's side. He died somewhere along the way. According to police, Davis headed south on M-291, turned west on I-70 and then north on Noland Road before stopping at the traffic light at Lynn Court and Noland Ð 4.4 miles away from the sandwich shop. Several citizens helped end the tragedy by chasing Davis on Interstate 70 and north on Noland Road. They cornered the vehicle, tackled Davis and tied his feet with rope at Lynn Court. Police officials say the boy's body was badly battered during the incident and his clothes were ripped. Keith Thompson, of Independence, began chasing the Blazer when he saw the boy being dragged after the vehicle turned onto M-291 heading south from Hidden Valley Road. "He came flying by me," he said. "I said 'Oh, my God! That's a body!'" Thompson works at William Bryant Elementary School in Blue Springs. "The first thing I thought is he could have been my niece or nephew," he said. Fred Byam and his brother, Brad, both from Oak Grove, started following the Blazer on I-70. "We got on at Lee's Summit (Road) and 70, and he came flying around us, and we saw the kid hanging out the side of the car bouncing," he said. "He was doing probably 80 when he passed us," Brad Byam said. Fred Byam said he stopped his truck in front of the Blazer at Lynn Court and Noland Road and another man, driving a Camaro, which also chased the vehicle, cornered him from behind. They then rushed to the Blazer and kept Davis from driving off. "He opened up the door and saw the kid and said something like 'I didn't do that,' " Brad Byam said. He said the man jumped back in the Blazer and tried to drive off. Fred Byam said he grabbed the gear shift on the steering column while his brother took the keys from the ignition. "We took him to the ground as soon as we got him out of the car," Brad Byam said. "We tied his feet with the rope," Fred Byam, who had the rope in his truck, said. "It took four of us to hold him." Late Tuesday night, police officials closed M-291 at Gudgell Street to videotape the blood trail for evidence. "This is probably the most hideous crime we've ever had," said George, a 29-year veteran with the Police Department. "You think you've seen it all, and then this happens." Roberta Coker, director of community relations with the Independence School District, said Gary Horner, a psychologist, would meet with students at the school today. "Whenever there's a tragedy, we send him out," Coker said. Galen Hoff, Glendale principal, said other counselors came to the school in the morning. The morning staff meeting was spent talking about how to talk to the students. Some of them have known Jake all their lives or at least since day care. "For many of our students, it's going to be a shock," Hoff said. "There's a lot of anger and emotion toward this gentleman who took this boy's life for no reason." Examiner reporter Nathan Odgaard contributed to this story. To reach Robert Hite, send e-mail to rhite@examiner.net or call 350-6324.99 From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Will of Jospeh GUDGELL, Sr.-Bath Co., KY Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 00:16:27 -0500 Below is the Will fo Joseph GUDGELL, Sr. (son of Andrew GUDGELL and Jane MITCHELL), of Bath Co., KY. If anyone can cite the Will Book and Page number for this will I would appreciate it. It was sent to me by a nice lady in the Bath Co., KY Clerk's office and she failed to write the source down. I think it is interesting that some of these folks spelled the name GUDGEL and also GUDGELL at different times. That's all for now, Linda Will of Joseph GUDGEL, Senior- June 29, 1863 Bath Co., KY I, Joseph GUDGEL Senior being weak in body but of disposing mind and memory make and constitute the following my last will and testament. 1st I will and appoint that my executors hereinafter named shall cause to be paid all my just debts as soon after my decease as practicable. 2nd After the payment of all my just and lawful debts I will and bequeath to my three children "to-wit" Ephriam Oliver, Charles and James R. all my real and personal estate in fee simple as hereinafter provided. 3rd I will and direct that my three children above named shall remain on my farm occupying the same as tenants in common with all the stock and crops farming implements household and kitchen furniture that may be on hands at the time after my death should any one of my three named sons who shall have arrived at the age of Twenty one years desire a division of my lands and Negroes money and all the afsets belonging to my estate at such time I will and direct that then a just equal and aquitable division shall be made of my entire estate between them. 4th I will that my three sons shall have the proceeds of my farm and stock as above named as long as they shall remain as tenants in common dividing the same equally among themselves after paying the common expenses of the family. 5th It is my will and desire that two of my Negro men and three of my Negro girls and the children that they may have shall remain at home with my three children for their use on the farm and the remaining Negroes belonging to me are to be hired out by my executors and I exprefsly will that my Negro man Mason shall remain with my children on the farm and that he be kept in the family by my children during life. 6th I will and direct that my executors shall as soon after my decease as practicable cause all of my property to be appraised except my farm and such of the Negroes as I have directed above to remain on the farm with my three children and all of the stock and crops household and other property that is about the house and on the farm which I do not advise shall be appraised or (interrupted?) by my executors, but they shall cause to be appraised the Negroes that are to be hired out as above directed and all my notes and accounts and all money that I have on deposit in the Bank of Boyd Singleton and company in the town of Sharpsburg, Bath County, Kentucky and all Bank stock that I have in said Bank. 7th I will and desire that Mifs Jane Logan who has long lived in my family shall live with and have a support as long as she may desire to make her home with my children, but should she at any time change her home then her support to stop. 8th I constitute and appoint Daniel R. Jones and John H. GUDGELL Executors of this my last will and testament. This the 29th day of June eighteen hundred and sixty three. Joseph GUDGELL, Sr. Signed and acknowledged in the presence of Ephriam Caldwell and G. F. Thomas on the day and date above written. Ephriam Caldwell G.J. Thomas Attest Duly stamped with United States Internal Revenue stamps to the amount of Twenty-five dollars. R. Coulthard, Clk. State of Kentucky Bath County, Sct. I, Robert Coulthard, Clerk of the County Court for the county aforesaid do certify that this instrument of writing purporting to be the last Will and testament of Joseph GUDGELL, Senior, deceased, was this day produced in open court and proved by the oaths of Ephriam Caldwell and G.F. Thomas, witnefses then to subscribe and ordained to be recorded. Whereupon the same together with this certificate has been duly admitted to record in my office. Given under my hand this 24th day of August, 1864. "Examined" R. Coulthard, Clk. From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Family Group Sheet of Andrew GUDGELL & Jane MITCHELL Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 08:33:18 -0500 I thought I would submit the Family Group Sheet for Andrew GUDGELL (Jr.) and Jane MITCHELL for those who are maybe new to the list that may want to update or add to their data. If anyone has more to add to my information please do so. I amsure I will find more as I cull through my unfiled sources as I go. Andrew GUDGELL, Jr. b. 1760-1774 Baltimore, MD, d. abt. 1840 Bath Co., KY. Son of Andrew GUDGEL, Sr. and (?). (Where was Andrew, Jr. buried?) Married January 10, 1792 Woodford Co., KY by Sam Shannon to Jane MITCHELL, dau. of John and Elizabeth MITCHELL. Jane died before 1840. (Buried where?) Known children: (Most likely all b. Bath Co., KY) Allen GUDGELL-b. February 14, 1788 Bath Co., KY(possibly son of a previous marriage), d. February 20, 1868 Bath Co., KY, bur. GUDGELL Cem., Owingsville, Bath Co., KY. Marr. Rebecca Reid (Reed) February 8, 1813 Bath Co., KY. Polly GUDGELL- b. 1794-1800, d. (when?). Married David M..DUNLAP. Went to Missouri. Rebecca GUDGELL-b. 1794-1824. Marr. Nov. 15, 1824 Bath Co., KY to Samuel MITCHELL. Joseph GUDGELL, Sr.-b. September 20, 1801 KY, d. May 13, 1864. Buried Springfield Church Cem., Bath Co., KY. Marr. Louisa J. GROVES after 1830. Rezin GUDGELL-b. 1807 Bath Co., KY, d. 1838 Macoupin Co., IL. Marr. Elizabeth UTTERBACK Sept. 28, 1830 Bourbon Co., KY. After Rezin's death his wife and children returned to KY. Elizabeth GUDGELL- b. 1794-1800, d. before 1840. Married John DUNLAP 1820-1830. Went to Missouri. ******************************************** I need more specific dates on births and dates/locations of deaths if anyone has this info. Thanks, Linda from absolutely gorgeous weather in KY. High of 75 today. Very unseasonable weather this time of year, but we love it. Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 08:11:07 -0900 From: Dianne Subject: Re: Family Group Sheet of Andrew GUDGELL & Jane MITCHELL Linda and all, Sounds like Andrew Jr's daughters may have married 2 brothers--Dunlap and another daughter may have married a cousin from the mom's side--a Mitchell. Maybe you've already figured this out. Also sounds like from Andrew Jr's will, that he was very concerned about some of his slaves' welfare; but who was the woman Jane Logan who he stated could live there as long as she wanted? Was she a free person of color or perhaps a relative and maybe suffering from some sort of ailment? Dianne Gudgel-Holmes From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: James Austin GUDGEL, Sr. and James Clay GUDGEL Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:50:35 -0500 In answer to Chuck Gross' question about James Austin GUDGEL, Sr. (son of John Harvey GUDGELL and Julia Ella LYONS). This is what I have on James Austin GUDGEL, Sr. (b. September 20, 1896, d. May 22, 1969). Marr. Irene Agnes GILMORE Dec. 27, 1920 Rochester, NY. Agnes died in 1992. 3 children- Virginia Margaret-d. as an infant John Henry- d. as an infant. James Austin, Jr.-b. 1923 ******************************************** Social Security records say he died in May, 1971 in Texas (??). Obituary of James A. GUDGEL (Anderson News, Lawrenceburg, KY): James A. GUDGEL Dies In Texas James Austin GUDGEL, 74, formerly of Alton, son of the late John Harvey and Ella Lyons GUDGEL, died May 22 at a Houston, Texas cancer clinic, where he had been a patient for the past year. His maternal grandparents were the late Robert Sproul and Margaret Penny Lyons, and his great grandparents were the late Thomas B. and Sara Ripy Lyons and Larkin H. and Sara Penny. He attended Kavanaugh School. Most of his adult life was spent in Rochester. NY and Alton, IL. He is survived by his wife, Mrs. Irene Gilmore GUDGEL of Houston, and a son, James Austin GUDGEL, Jr., also of Houston; 3 grandchildren, Susan, Terry and Paul GUDGEL of Rochester, a sister, Mrs. Falconer (Margaret) Powell of Venice, FL; and several half-brothers, and a half-sister, all of Louisville and Indiana. Funeral services were held at a funeral home in Houston. The body was cremated and the remains will be taken to Rochester, NY to be buried with two of his infant children. ********************************************* James Clay GUDGEL (b. March 11. 1858 Bath Co., KY, d. June 21, 1906, bur. Alton Cemetery, Anderson Co., KY). son of John H. GUDGELL and Elizabeth GUDGELL. Was given custody of his nephew, James Austin GUDGEL, at the death of his brother, John Harvey GUDGEL, in 1937. James never married. He served as Master Commissioner of the Anderson Circuit Court in Anderson Co., KY. He came to Anderson Co., KY at the age of 14 and attended school there. He was a Maccabee. Apparently he died right after article appeared in a Souvenir Supplement to the Anderson News in 1906 which follows: Souvenir Supplement The Anderson News, Lawrenceburg, Anderson Co., KY, June, 1906, pg. 19: J.C. GUDGEL The Master Commissioner of the Anderson Circuit Court is one of the most sterling Democrats in the county. He has ever given of his time and talents for the benefit of his party, and never yet has his party had occasion to regret the trust imposed in him. Born and reared in Bath County, he came here at the age of 14 and entered the common schools, where he received his education. On leaving school he found employment on a farm until he became twenty-one years old. After leaving the farm he secured the appointment of storekeeper-guager under Mr. Cleveland, and served during both his terms. He afterward held several offices of trust, among them being a Democratic Committeeman. He was the first to become an Election Commissioner under the Goebel Law, in which he served two terms. During all the time he was serving his party he found time to conduct a large general merchandise store at Alton, in this county. During the heated race of Judge Carroll and R.F. Peak for Circuit Judge of the twelfth Judicial District he worked so indefatigably and earnestly and successfully for Mr. Peak that when that most estimable man took his seat as Judge he immediately appointed Mr. GUDGEL his Master Commissioner, an office which he now holds with honor to himself and great satisfaction to all litigants. Besides his many political duties and those as a merchant. he has also found time to handle some few horses, and to-day has an interest in some of the very best. Recently he had a narrow escape from death. While riding one of his magnificent thoroughbreds, the animal threw him and his foot becoming caught in the stirrup, he was dragged over his place. He was badly injured but has since recovered. Mr. GUDGEL is still actively engaged in politics, and is always on the alert to extend a helping hand in the interests of his party. No man in the county is a harder worker in the political arena than he, and no man comes forth from the ftay with cleaner hands and purer motives. The Democrats of this county know that when they want a clean, honest and upright man to take his coat off and do true work for the party and the principles of the party the little village of Alton harbors that man in the person of our worthy Master Commissioner, James Clay GUDGELL. He yet enjoys what some people call single blessedness, though he frankly says he cannot understand why they speak of it so. He is also a Maccabee and works as untiringly for his lodge as he does everything else he undertakes. ************************************************************************** Hope this will help clarify the two James GUDGEL's. BTW, does anyone know what a Maccabee Lodge is? Linda From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Will of James Clay GUDGEL-Anderson Co., KY 1904 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:20:26 -0500 Chuck- This may be something else to add to your data since we are discussing the two James GUDGEL's. Linda Will of James Clay GUDGEL Anderson Co., KY Will Book B, page 276 In the name of God, Amen, I, James Clay GUDGEL, of the County of Anderson, state of Kentucky, being of sound mind and memory do hereby make and constitute this my Last Will and Testament annulling all other former wills hereby made. It is my desire and will that all my just debts be fully paid together with my funeral expenses. I give and bequeath unto my nephew, James Austin GUDGEL, my life insurance policy of $1,000.00 and I hereby name and appoint my brother, John H. GUDGEL as Guardian of James A. GUDGEL without bond. I give and bequeath unto my brother, John H. GUDGEL and my sisters, Nannie MOUNTJOY, Emma RINGO, Hattie MOORE and Cordelia WILSON, the remainder of my property, both real and personal by dividing equally among the five above named persons. In witness whereof, I hereunto fix my signature this second day of June, 1904. From gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com Sun Feb 27 15:35:51 2000 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id PAA17994; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:34:02 -0800 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:34:02 -0800 From: Bob Gudgel Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:33:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200002272333.PAA19066@eskimo.com> To: gudgel-list@eskimo.com Subject: Maccabee Lodge Resent-Message-ID: <"RLqwp1.0.5P4.gHRku"@mx1> Resent-From: gudgel-list@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1335 X-Loop: gudgel-list@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com I did a search for "Maccabee Lodge" and it looks like it was a Fraternal organization of some sort kind of like the Eagles or Moose's etc. Found it in Nova Scotia and St. Louis and more and it also appears to have been lively around the turn of the century 1900's. boB From gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com Sun Feb 27 19:28:22 2000 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id TAA06433; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:27:21 -0800 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:27:21 -0800 Message-ID: <004e01bf819b$d1924000$9202ffd1@lindascomputer> From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" To: "Gudgel List" Subject: GUDGELL/DARNELL marriage-Bath Co., KY Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:27:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <"UZknq2.0.Ra1.OiUku"@mx1> Resent-From: gudgel-list@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1336 X-Loop: gudgel-list@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com Okay guys- I need someone to help me out here! I'm working on the Andrew GUDGELL, Jr. line and I have conflicting info. here. My family group sheet says: John T. GUDGELL (1848-1930) b. & d. Bath Co., KY (son of Thomas Fletcher GUDGELL and Mary Magdelena POWERS), married Mildred "Millie" Ann DARNELL (1849-1948). Known children: Martha , Lizzie, Dallas, Molly and Charlie. I visited with a descendant, Clyde Brooks GUDGELL, a couple of years ago (now deceased) and he said that John T. GUDGELL married his grandmother, Elizabeth JONES of Bath Co., KY. Can someone help me out here? I don't have a marriage date for John T. GUDGELL and Mildred Ann DARNELL so I don't know if John was married more than once or if this is the right or wrong John GUDGELL. I've worked on this enough this weekend to last for this week I think! Back to work tomorrow :( Everybody have a great week. Linda From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Progress on Andrew GUDGELL, Jr. data Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 08:46:22 -0500 Good morning to all my GUDGELL cousins- I have completed transcribing all of my notes on this line that were not transferred when I changed genealogy programs! So now I will be adding data from my "piles" that I have collected and have not taken the time to enter. So I will be asking for clarifications and trying to unravel a few kinks in the next few weeks I guess. Weather in KY is cool this a.m. but nice and warm through the day. Spring appears to have arrived but it's too early-maybe we will get lucky this year. Will be working at the Historical Society this afternoon awhile. We're putting in a new yard sign which will look great. Have had lots of stuff going on including purchase of a new microfilm reader/printer which we have worked hard for with fund raising, etc. This is a new "state-of-the-art" piece of equipment which cost us about $9,000. Our old one was on it's last leg so this is wonderful for us. I have given up the Treasurer's job after 3 years only to take a chair position to organize the Historic Homes Tour at Christmas this year. Hasn't been done here for many years. It's a great fund raiser opportunity for the Historical Soc. Is this something that is done other than in this area? I love to go on these tours and see some of the historic homes all decorated for Christmas. Well, just wanted to say "Hi" and let you know what I've been up to. Looking forward to the next issue of the Connections newsletter coming out soon. Let's hear from some of you guys as to what's been going on in your worlds. Linda Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:29:47 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Gudgel Subject: Gudgels with unclaimed property I just went to the web site of The National Unclaimed Property Database, www.nupd.com, and looked up "Gudgel". There are a few in the dabase that have unclaimed property at the moment. Most are under $130, but there are a few that are larger amounts and a few that are "undisclosed". If you see someone on the list that you know, you might want to let them know. boB Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:05:03 -0800 From: Dhgudg@aol.com Subject: Gudgells My name is Harriel Gudgell, 3316 Nantucket Dr., Lexington KY 40502 phone 606 277 3519 E-mail DHGudg @AOL.com We have just moved from 6616 Greenwich Rd., Lexington KY 40511 Our first move in over 50 year We receive the Connections and enjoy it very much. Thanks, My father's name was Wallace Lee Gudgell I have a brother named Paul Wade Gudgell Also two sisters. Helen G. Willmott and Jane G. Young Thanks' HLG From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: LONG-LOST GUDGEL LETTER FOUND!!!!! Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 22:49:01 -0500 Hi Folks- I am pleased to say I found the letter I thought was long-gone! It is dated June, 1893 and written from Reuben GUDGEL, of Bath Co., KY to the Attorney, Levin Wilson GUDGELL, of Princeton, Gibson Co., IN discussing the different GUDGEL lines and where they went. I am just so relieved to have found it! It was in my WOODFILL/WOOFIELD file-because it came from a lady in Missouri who wrote me about the WOODFILL/WOODFIELD's. The reason I was looking in that file is that I heard from a lady today via email from Baltimore, Maryland about the WOODFILL's, Her name is Mary WOODFILL PARK and she is descended from Daniel WOODFILL!!!! A lady I had corresponded with at the Uniontown Library (Fayette Co., PA) about a year ago gave her my name. Anyway, I have responded to her email tonight and will wait to see what she has to say. She has researched this family a long time so I have a good feeling about this! Will forward her email to the list when I hear back from her. Will also transcribe the lost letter (actually it's 2 letters) about the GUDGEL's in a day or so. It's late and I need to get to bed. Maybe this is the break we've been waiting for !!! I hope so. Later, Linda From gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com Wed Mar 8 20:59:43 2000 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id UAA27762; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:58:43 -0800 Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:58:43 -0800 From: Bob Gudgel Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:58:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200003090458.UAA03624@eskimo.com> To: gudgel-list@eskimo.com Subject: Welcome Harriel Gudgell and Linda Resent-Message-ID: <"IbxYk1.0.fn6.3-onu"@mx1> Resent-From: gudgel-list@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1341 X-Loop: gudgel-list@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com s lost letters Harriel, It's great to have a 2L Gudgel(l) on the mail list. I hope we can find out more on the Gudgel/Gudgell name dilemma. Linda, That's great! Can't wait to hear Gudgel news from the 1800s! Have a day all!~ boB From gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com Thu Mar 9 18:52:23 2000 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id SAA01206; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 18:50:59 -0800 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 18:50:59 -0800 Message-ID: <000701bf8a3b$8db1b340$f35afcd1@lindascomputer> From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" To: "Gudgel List" Subject: GUDGEL(L) letter-June, 1893 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 21:50:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <"PCFKi1.0.gI.JC6ou"@mx1> Resent-From: gudgel-list@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1342 X-Loop: gudgel-list@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com Hi folks- I am going to transcribe these two letters and then when we've had a chance to "digest" them, I want us to discuss the contents. I misinformed you about why this letter was filed where it was. The correspondence it was found with was not connected to the letter--I think I just picked it up with the other correspondence and misfiled it. Easy for me to do. At least it was not filed in the trash . Note the keyword here is "filed". : ) *************************************************************************** Note at top of page: Copy of letter loaned me by Miss Elizabeth Maddpx, Clinton, IL Owingsville, Ky. June 1893 L.W. GUDGEL, Esq. Princeton, Ky. Dear Sir:- I have for some time past been trying to trace out the genealogy of the GUDGEL family. From all of the information I can get we have sprung from one German (dutchman) who came to America from some part of Germany about the year 1756, whose name was ANDREW GUDGEL. He first located in Penn. then moved to Ky. in about 1785, bringing with him quite a family mostly boys. He settled in what is now Madison Co. on Silver Creek, bought land and erected a grist mill operated by water power. After he had been well fixed up some one brought a suit against him, asserting a superior title to the land on which he lived, and recovered it by showing a better title. The land titles in Ky. in those days were very unstable and many men had either to give up their land and year of labor or buy out some claimant who often did not have the best title. This great grandfather and honest dutchman was so disgusted with Ky. justice that he shook the dust from his feet and left the State about the year 1811 and located in Indiana in what was then Posey County and died there in 1823. Gibson County, (buried near Oakland City). He had been married two or three times and had quite a large family of children. The children that I can trace are as follows: ANDREW GUDGEL, born in 1760 who in 1787 married Jane (1792) MITCHELL of this Bath County (then Bourbon) (This is not just right, for the marriage is in Woodford County-H. Scott). He settled in the West end of Bath, near Sharpsburg, cleared up a farm and lived there until he died in 1842, his wife having died a year or two before. He left the following children: 1. Allen GUDGEL born 1788, died 1868. Left quite a large family of children. You will see a list of them published in our county paper a copy of which I send you. 2. Andrew GUDGEL, died in early manhood, childless. 3. Ephriam, died childless in Ark. 4. Polly mar. David DUNLAP, removed to Mo. have lost sight fo her and her descendants. 5. Rebecca mar. John W. MITCHELL, removed to Cape Girardeau Co., Mo. Lost sight of her. 6. Joseph GUDGELL lived at the old homestead, succedded his father; was born 1800, died 1865, worth $100,000; left two sons his only heirs, namely: Chas. and James R. GUDGELL, each of whom are married, with families, and now live in Independence, Mo. 7. Rezin GUDGELL born in 1808, died 1842, was married to Elizabeth UTTERBACK; left 2 children: Reuben (your humble servant) and Mary E. GUDGELL, who married John CUNNINGHAM in 1852, and now lives in Independence, Mo. Has a family of 7 children all grown and some grandchildren. Reuben G. was born 1833, marr. 1856 to Elvissa MARTIN of Terre Haute, Ind.; have 4 children, all grown: Wallace S. GUDGELL, 35 years, mar., a lawyer. Frank P. GUDGELL, 33, married, a physician. Oakalla, 30, married to Thomas A. LEE. (2) Reuben GUDGEL letter Has one son 6 years old, resided in N.Y. City, Howard C., aged 24, lives with me, is singer (sic...single?), and my law partner. These are the descendants of my grandfather, Andrew GUDGEL who died in this county. His father the original Andrew GUDGEL, and my great gd. father, had a son Jacob GUDGELL who lived in Lawrenceburg, Anderson Co., Ky., about 12 miles from Frankfort; and also a son Abraham who lived in the same neighborhood- descandants of these two sons and of that name continue to live in that county, and in Mercer County. I know but little about them. He also had two sons who moved from Ky. I think their names were Jospeh and Ephriam, who about 1820 removed to Jefferson Co., Ind. and who lived near Madison. Some of the descendants of their brothers lived at Chillicothe, Mo. and in Linn Co., Kansas and some of them in Ill. I have never been able to find out anything about them. Very truly yours, Reuben GUDGELL. *************************************************************************** Owingsville, Bath Co., Ky. June 10, 1893 In re L.W. GUDGELL, Princeton, Ind. Dear Sir: I have been looking further in the history of our family and find that on April 9, 1827 a suit decided by our Appellate court of Withen (sic...Withers) etc. Vs. Thompson etc. reported in Ky. Reports (T.B. Monroe) Vol. 4, page 323, in which suit, one Andrew GUDSHALL's heirs played an important part. The suit related to a contract and title to land. The appeal being from Woodford Co., I wrote down there to a friend to examine the original papers, and have his report: The suit was brought Sept. 17, 1819 by William MITCHELL and Polly, his wife, sole heirs of Patrick DORAN. The heirs of Andrew GUDSHALL and also of Anthony THOMPSON against Thomas WITHERS and others. The bill in chancery gives the names of the heirs of Andrew GUDSHALL as follows to wit: 1. Andrew mar. Janet MITCHELL 1787 (mar. Woodford Co., 1792) 2. Elizabeth mar. Daniel WOODFIELD 3. Sarah mar. Jacob STUCKER 4. Mary mar. Michael ODEN 5. Jean or Jane 6. Hannah marr. Jesse MUSICK (2nd) mar. Adam TEAL, Sept. 3, 1817 in Gibson Co., Ind. 7. Sophia 8. Jospeh 9. Ephriam 10. Jacob 11.Abraham 12. Nancy b. 1797 mar. Wm. TEEL 13. Hettie mar. ______ McGARY 14. Wm., b. 1801, mar. Lucy THURMAN In an appeal bond on file the name Siphia (sic) is given as Spivees GUDSHALL. But there is an article of agreement on file dated Sept. 11, 1809 signed "Andrew GUDGEL" and Thomas WITHEN (sic). This agreement is to the effect that GUDGEL sold to WITHEN (sic) all his interest in certain tract of 600 acres of land. The suit was prosecuted by TALBOTT, as attorney. The bill of complaint being illegible and hard to decipher. I have no doubt that the mispelling of the name was by the attorney who prosecuted the action. The list of heirs is incomplete, and the names of four of the sons as I have always understood then was, are not given, to wit: Jacob, Abraham, Joseph and Ephriam. The first names "Andrew" I have no doubt was my grandfather, and last named William was your grand father. I understand there are several other suits in the name of GUDSHALL or to which they were parties on file in that Co. The bond referred to as signed by "Andrew GUDGEL" and Thomas WITHEN (sic)" was attested by _____ DARNELL, Robert MITCHELL and Thomas HINTON. My grandfather, Andrew GUDGEL married Janet Mitchell and she had a brother Robert MITCHELL, who removed to Green Co., Ill, in 1830 and his descendatns still live there. Also that my grandfather had a sister Rebecca who married John Wright MITCHELL, a brother of my grandfather. The difficulty with myself is that my father died when I was about 7 years of age, and my mother when I was 10. Then I lived with my grandmother on my mother's side of the house till I was 16, when I went among strangers and took care of myself, and as a matter of course took little interest in my family connections until the last few years. I am very truly yours, Reuben GUDGELL *************************************************************************** Handwritten notes on the bottom of this page were apparently made by Elizabeth MADDOX, a GUDGEL researcher: (looks like her lineage from both sides of the family)- Andrew GUDGEL 1735-1823 Hannah GUDGEL d. 1824 wed 1st Jesse MUSIC, 2nd Adam TEEL (d. 1832) 9-3-1817 Eliz. TEEL (1822-1889) mar. 1842 Thos. MADDOX (1819- ) Joseph MADDOX (1848- ) Mary Cath. CURRY (1851- ) Elizabeth MADDOX ******************************** Nicholas TEEL (d. 1830?) __________ PRITCHETT Adam TEEL mar. 1817 Hannah GUDGEL MUSICK (Jesse). Eliz. TEEL (1822-1880) mar. 1842 Thomas MADDOX (1819-1907) Jospeh (Thos.?) MADDOX (1848- ) Mary Cath. CURRY (1851- ) Eliz. MADDOX From: "Nancy Miller" Subject: GUDGEL letter Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:49:20 -0800 I can't comment much on the contents of the letter, but I will comment on Elizabeth Maddox, since I have her as a descendant as she outlines it there. I have birth date as 25 Jul 1886, one of 4 children of Joseph Thomas Maddox who did not die until 1930, so presume she wrote those notes before his death. Linda gave no indication of when the notes might have been written. Going back through some notes that I took from the archives of this list (about the month it began I think), I have the note that for sending an SASE to Doyal, he would send the 5 pages of a GUDGEL history that he had, written by Elizabeth Maddox of Clinton, IL in 1926. I failed to follow up on that, but wonder if what he had is the same as what Linda has now sent us. Nancy From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Fw: Gudgel(l) Letter - June, 1893 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:56:04 -0500 I am forwading this email to the list so that everyone can share in the research. Please see my reply below Judith's message. Linda ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Judith Myers=20 To: lfinnell@lex.infi.net=20 Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 11:37 AM Subject: Gudgel(l) Letter - June, 1893 Linda, it was exciting to receive copies of these letters, as the = Teal/Teel and Maddox families are my line and close to where I live. = Can you tell me when this letter was loaned by Elizabeth Maddox? Thanks = much. =20 Judith Myers ********************************************************************* Judith- I failed to show the date on this letter following Miss Maddox's note of = when it was loaned to her. The date was 1928 and I didn't notice it = till after I had sent the transcription. I have seen the name Elizabeth = MADDOX in other research information that I have discovered over the = years. It's nice to know who she is now. Linda ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF8A98.602A24E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Linda, it was exciting to receive = copies of=20 these letters, as the Teal/Teel and Maddox families are my line and = close to=20 where I live.  Can you tell me when this letter was loaned by = Elizabeth=20 Maddox? Thanks much.
 
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I failed to show the date on this letter following = Miss=20 Maddox's note of when it was loaned to her.  The date was 1928 and = I didn't=20 notice it till after I had sent the transcription.  I have seen the = name=20 Elizabeth MADDOX in other research information that I have discovered = over the=20 years.  It's nice to know who she is now.
Linda
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF8A98.602A24E0-- From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Fw: GUDGEL(L) letter-June, 1893 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:30:38 -0500 I am forwarding this email from Diane also because I think we all need to know the other person's thoughts on this letter. See my response below Diane's questions. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck" To: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 11:45 AM Subject: Re: GUDGEL(L) letter-June, 1893 > Linda, > The letters from the Gudgel lawyer cousins are great! And > they are different from the ones I have which is even better. I > will dig mine out this week end and "publish" them. I hope my > brother can piece them together for the web archives. > > I see that the old folks think Andrew came to the US in 1756 > which is interesting, but they also think he died in 1823 (wasn't > that when Andrew Jr died?) That death date is way off so I wonder > where they were getting their information. > > Can you please tell me if the notation "(dutchman)" was > originally in the letter or was it added perhaps by Miss Maddox? > There was one other editorial note that has the name "H.Scott" > and I wonder who that is and I am assuming that "Scott" added > this note to the original letter some yrs later? It would be good > to explain where these editorial notes came from if we can figure > it out so as to allow the reader to understand better. > > I'm SURE glad you were able to find those misfiled gems. Too > bad my filing hasn't unearthed anything as good this month. > > Dianne G-H ********************************************* Diane- Please share your letters with us! I'd also love to have photocopies of them too. I think I have another one here somewhere that was a response to Reuben GUDGELL from L.W. GUDGEL. Will look for it also. Your questions: First I think that soem of Reuben's comments may have been assumtions but then the information on closer family members is most likely from acknowledge and not heresay handed down through the family. I think his statement that old Andrew came to American about 1756 could very well be right. I beleive the first date I have of Andrew, Sr. being in America is May 27, 1758 in Richland Township, Bucks Co., PA. where a suit was referenced-(Source: Joseph BALL assignee vs. Andrew GUTCHELL-Fayette Co., PA, March Term, 1785). ANdrew, Sr. died in 1815 and his wife, Betsey PAYN(E) GUDGEL died in 1823. I am glad to know that ANdrew, Jr. died in 1842 and feel that Reuben was correct on that-after all he was Reuben's grandfather. I had listed Andrew's Jr.'s death as 1840-1843 (dates between his Will being written and probated). And I had listed Jane MITCHELL GUDGELL, his wife, as dying before 1840 (see Andrew, Jr.'s Will written in 1840.) Reuben says that Andrew died 1842 and Jane (Janet?) died "a year or two before". So that's pretty close too. The notation "(dutchman)" was originally written in the letter and not added by anyone else. The reference of "H.Scott" was an original part of the letter also and I took it to mean that someone named H. Scott had cited this marriage date to Reuben. Something else I find interesting is that Reuben specifically states that Allen GUDGELL was the son of Andrew, Jr. He also makes mention in the second letter when he lists the children of Andrew, Jr. and Janet (Jane?) MITCHELL: 1. Andrew mar, Janet MITCHELL 1787. (mar. Woodford Co., 1792). We have questioned whether Allen GUDGELL was the son of Andrew, Jr. and Jane (Janet?) MITCHELL since the marriage date wasn't until 1792 on the marriage bond. I think it's interesting that even in 1893 there apparently was a question. What do you think the 1787 date means? Surely Allen wasn't born out of wedlock. Back then it was terribly shameful for this to happen. But maybe Reuben wasn't quite sure and possibly Allen could have been married earlier and had this child? Nevertheless, I feel even more confident now that Allen was the son of Andrew, Jr. (Other researcher's have tried to say he was the son of Andrew, Sr. but I am hard-headed I guess and firmly believed I was right. (Yeah!!! One point for me!!). I want to go back to the Archives in Frankfort where I found the Land Trial records and see if there are more. There's bound to be. Okay- I'll quit for now . I think I get on a roll and cna't shut up. Anyone else have comments or questions? Linda > From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: WELCOME TO HARRIEL GUDGELL! Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:41:57 -0500 A BIG hearty welcome to Harriel GUDGELL of Lexington, KY. Okay, Harriel, lets hear from you. I spoke with you a couple of years ago so I know who you are. Please introduce yourself and tell us where you fit in this GUDGEL(L) tree. I know but others may not. Great to have you on the List! I just re-read my last response to Diane's questions and realized how many typo's I made. Blame it on the paint! I've been painting my bathroom today and think the fumes have gotten to me. Sorry. Well, back to the paint can . Linda From SGudgel@compuserve.com Sat Mar 11 19:02:41 2000 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:15:07 -0500 From: Stephen Gudgel Subject: GUDGEL(L) letter-June, 1893 The transcribed letter is indeed interesting, but the tone of the letter sounds more like legend than accurate information. Dianne's questions were very important. What is Elizabeth Maddpx (sic Maddox ??) 's source for this information and what is the date of the letter? From where have we all sprung? A German or a Dutchman? They are not the same and if the author and everyone else don't know that we have a problem. The Dutch come from the Netherlands and Germans come from Germany. Andrew could have been Dutch living in Germany, but more a more likely scenario is that he was from somewhere in Germany (odd that we have no idea) and that Elizabeth Maddox doesn't know that they aren't the same thing. Like the "Pennsylvania Dutch" syndrome, which came from the fact that people of German origin were called that because their language was German, which in German is Deutsch, and which people confused with Dutch, the language and the people of Holland (Netherlands). So this "honest dutchman" is most likely a German immigrant and that is that, the rest being embellishment. It seems the letter gives us things to research, but from its folklore tone, I assume that the author had her own version of how she thought things were and don't think we should accept that as the final word. I think it sound more like "hearsay" than "....knowledge". My guess is that H. Scott caught one of the perhaps many errors in this letter. I'd suggest we take the letter as an intersting reference we need to document and correct if/when we can locate the facts. I am sorry to seem so picky, but I figure if we are going to all this trouble, meaning those of you who do most of the research, we should make every effort to get it absolutely right. Stephen From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: More comments on the 1893 letter found Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 10:19:49 -0500 Mornin' everybody- I've just been thinking over some of the comments made in this letter and wanted to point out a few things. I do believe our old Andrew was born in Germany but I am not so sure he left there to come to America. He could have very well left from Holland and maybe that's where Reuben GUDGELL got the idea of mentioning "dutchman". Reuben also stated Andrew came from some part of Germany about the year 1756. From Robert Turman's book, Genealogy Newspaper Columns of Robert E. Turman", page 393, column 2, Mr. Turman states: "The above mentioned Frederick GADSHALK owned 150 acres in Franconia Township of Philadelphia County and paid a "quit-rent" or tax on his land "before 1734". I'm not sure why Reuben came to the conclusion that Andrew came about 1756. He also states that Andrew settled in what is now (1893) Madison Co., KY on Silver Creek. This is where the name Silver Creek came from that we've seen in historic references to this family. It has been presumed that this Silver Creek area was in Woodford Co., KY. I have never found a reference to Silver Creek in Woodford Co., KY (and I live there), however, Andrew did live here and lost his land over an unclear title before going to Knox Co., IN about 1811. I have always felt that Andrew was somewhere else in Kentucky beofre settling in Woodford Co. Maybe we need to dig a bit into Madison Co., KY (county seat is Richmond). He also states that Andrew died in Gibson Co., IN in 1823-not so, he died in 1815 and his wife, Elizabeth "Betsy" PAYN(E) died there in 1823. He also said that Jacob and Abraham GUDGEL(L), sons of our old Andrew went to Anderson and Mercer Co., KY. That part of Mercer later became Anderson Co. too. I know well that Jacob was in Anderson Co. but I am not so sure about Abraham. Abraham was first in Woodford Co. but I thought he went on to IN and IL. Can't recall Abraham being in Anderson Co. but will have to look further. So you see, there are errors or misconceptions in his information but then sometimes information handed down in families are not always correct either. I think we have to look at some of this as being correct until we can prove otherwise. These are just my thoughts. I really want to look for more court records at the Kentucky Archives when I can get down there. BTW, my bathroom looks great. Amazing what a little paint and accessories can do. Now on to the dining room . From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Dan GUDGEL family- Kingston, MO Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:56:06 -0500 Can someone identify this family, specifically Dan GUDGEL? Dan GUDGEL marr. Nancy REYNOLD. Had a daughter, Emma Jane GUDGEL who marr. Milo JACKSON Dec. 12, 1912 Kingston, MO. Emma was b. February 17, 1894 Kingston, MO. Milo was b. April 6, 1891 in Ray Co., MO and d. October 12, 1943 in Bolivar, MO. Children of Milo JACKSON and Emma Jane GUDGEL: Danial Laberne JACKSON-b. May 14, 1915 Kingston, MO., mar. (1) Mildred Lydia MOSES Nov. 30, 1938 Springfield, MO (2) Mildred Lucille EDWARDS. Virginia Lou JACKSON-b. January 6, 1920 Kingston, MO; mar. Emil Edwards STANEK May 22, 1944. Does this family sound familiar with anyone? Linda From: "Nancy Miller" To: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" , Subject: Re: Dan GUDGEL family- Kingston, MO Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 09:19:39 -0800 Linda, I have a Dan Gudgel in my data base (no dates, wife or children) who is the son of William Henry Gudgel (b.18 Jul 1847) and Lucy Potts. William Henry was said to be an Evansville lawyer that moved to OR or WA (depending on my source) and was the son of Andrew Gudgel and Elvira Wallace.. My notes say that I got Dan's name from information you posted to the list - I think you put out all of William Henry's children. Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Linda Gudgel Finnell To: Gudgel List Date: Sunday, March 12, 2000 8:57 AM Subject: Dan GUDGEL family- Kingston, MO >Can someone identify this family, specifically Dan GUDGEL? > >Dan GUDGEL marr. Nancy REYNOLD. Had a daughter, Emma Jane GUDGEL who marr. >Milo JACKSON Dec. 12, 1912 Kingston, MO. Emma was b. February 17, 1894 >Kingston, MO. Milo was b. April 6, 1891 in Ray Co., MO and d. October 12, >1943 in Bolivar, MO. > >Children of Milo JACKSON and Emma Jane GUDGEL: > >Danial Laberne JACKSON-b. May 14, 1915 Kingston, MO., mar. (1) Mildred >Lydia MOSES Nov. 30, 1938 Springfield, MO (2) Mildred Lucille EDWARDS. > >Virginia Lou JACKSON-b. January 6, 1920 Kingston, MO; mar. Emil Edwards >STANEK May 22, 1944. > >Does this family sound familiar with anyone? > >Linda > > > From: DenneyRes@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:18:36 EST Subject: Letter of 1893 The letter and comments have been fascinating so please keep posting them to the list. I now have a one sheet "Gudgel History" that apparently was written by one of Abraham Gudgel's daughter-in-laws in the 1950's. This letter also refers to "Silver Creek, a strip of country between the cities of Lexington and Frankfort, Kentucky." It goes on to say: "My husband says Jacob Gudgel went out west to Kansas to live. Andrew, Nicholas, and Edward married and located around Oakland City, Indiana about 25 miles from here. Abraham lived here and John on an adjoining farm. Abraham, my husband's father married Elizabeth Weed. The name Gudgel was formerly Gudschall, a Dutch Penn. pronouciation." References to communities such as Dutch Penn. may not have been totally accurate but they die hard. Keep up the good work! Shirley Dennye Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 20:48:26 -0900 From: Dianne To: Gudgeld@aol.com Subject: Re: Personal Information On Line Maybe we should examine what info on living folks we already have on our Gudgel Web site and consider replacing it with a footnote that states the info is not available on living people? What else could we do? Let's hear your ideas everyone. Dianne Gudgel-Holmes Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:43:36 -0800 Subject: Re: Personal Information On Line From: "Wm. E Gudgel" Hello Diane, I appreciate you bringing this subject up. I too have questions about the topic of privacy on the Internet and am concerned about how much we talk about the living. However, If this letter is in regards to a letter posted to the Gudgel-list concerning personal information about living people; I would like to see the law(s) that are supposed to cover this or at least the Name, Section, Subsection, or however it is listed so I can read this for myself. I am not so sure we aren't confusing Census Laws and Right to Privacy laws with the right to communicate with family on the Internet. It would be nice to hear from some of our cousins that are Lawyers and Judges, about there interpretation of this subject Thanks for bringing this subject back up. Bill Gudgel, in Evansville, IN On Fri, 04 Feb 2000 20:48:26 -0900 Dianne writes: >Maybe we should examine what info on living folks we already have >on our Gudgel Web site and consider replacing it with a footnote >that states the info is not available on living people? What else >could we do? Let's hear your ideas everyone. > >Dianne Gudgel-Holmes > > Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:49:51 -0900 From: Dianne Holmes To: "Wm. E Gudgel" Subject: Re: Personal Information On Line Dear Gudgel-list folks, I believe my e-mail message took over a month for you to receive! I don't understand but other messages to other people were also delayed a month or more and I just found out about it. Anyway, I believe I was responding to someone else's message on the topic which was posted about that time, so the context has been lost somewhat. Dianne Gudgel-Holmes From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Unidentified GUDGEL Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 08:16:22 -0500 Good morning to you if you're an early riser . If not, good afternoon to you. I received an email from a Jessica Lundius GUDGEL yesterday and she is requesting info. on the GUDGEL's If you can identify this family please let me know. I have some info. but need a little more to make sure it's the right family. E-mail is as follows: "I have recently married into the GUDGEL family and am looking for any info. on my husband's family for a tree for our daughter. The only info. we have is: Dr. James Walker GUDGEL, Oklahoma; Walker GUDGEL-James' father, Debra GUDGEL-sister. Walker was killed when James was 5 by a train-he was an engineer. Dr. J" Anyone able to help me out here? >From Linda, in beautiful spring-weather Kentucky. Spring is bustin' out all over here. From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" To: "Debbie Lance" Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:47:33 -0500 See my reply to Debbie below. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Lance" To: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 9:04 AM Subject: RE: Unidentified GUDGEL > Hi Linda, > This is probably the in the line of Jacob Gudgel and Mary Jane Witherspoon. > I looked in my records and I found a James Walker Gudgel b. 1947 son of > James Walker Francis Gudgel 1912-1955 and Madeline Ruth Hollingsworth. He > was the son of Theodore Gudgel and Della Nora Walker. Theodore, of course > was the son of Jacob Gudgel and Mary Jane Witherspoon. Notice that James > Walker was born in 1947 and James Walker Francis died in 1955. The dates > are close enough to make it an almost certainty. We do not have sure dates > on either of these men. > Debbie Lance > > Debbie- Thank You!!! I knew I was close to tying in this line from the letter I received in 1993 from a Kathryn GUDGEL in Redwood Falls, MN (wife of James Walker GUDGEL). The information she sent was as follows: James Walker GUDGEL b. April 16, 1947 in Kansas. Resided in Wellington, KS. Was a Doctor of Chiropractic Medicine and a Registered Physical Therapist. Moved to Norman, OK and in 1993 lives in Redwood Falls, MN. Married May 6, 1967 to Kathryn Louise GERKEN (b. January 8, 1946, Jennings, MO). 2 children: Deanie Reigh GUDGEL (KUHR?) and Wayne Erron GUDGEL. (Wayne b. 1971 Norman, OK and studying St. Louis, MO to be a Chiropractor). Parents of James Walker GUDGEL: James GUDGEL b. January 20, 1912 Stillwater, OK. In 1940 or 1941 he changed his name to Walker Francis GUDGEL (this took place in Payne Co., OK-Vol. 204, pg. 350). He worked as a fireman on the railroad in Kansas. Married Madeleine Ruth HOLLINGSWORTH (b. June 22, 1920 Mansville, OK). 2 children: James Walker GUDGEL and Debbie GUDGEL. Grandparents of James Walker GUDGEL (Paternal): Theodore GUDGEL b. 1874 Indiana. Married Della WALKER b. 1881 Kansas. 6 children living, 1 deceased. Grandparents of James Walker GUDGEL (Maternal): Ray HOLLINGSWORTH b. January 4, 1886 Collinsville, TX). Marr. Ursula FREEZE-b. July 17 18__ Whiteboro(?), Texas. **************************************************************************** So looks like we have found this line! Yippee!!!! I love to feel I have helped someone find their family. Thanks Debbie. I was missing a connection or date somewhere back with Theodore I think. I'll be sure and tell her about the list and the Connections Newsletter. BTW, we seem to be discovering a lot of Chiropractors in this family tree, as I recall. John Bert GUDGEL had a couple of Chiropractor's in his family too! Interesting. Thanks again, Linda Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:16:33 -0900 From: Dianne Holmes To: Linda Gudgel Finnell Subject: Re: more GUDGEL(L) letters-May/June, 1893 Dear Gudgel cousins, In response to Linda Finnell's 3/9/2000 e-mail, I am transcribing additional letters between the the two Gudgel(l) lawyer cousins--Reuben of Owingsville, Ky and L.W of Princeton, IN. It is evident from the letters that they enjoyed more correspondence than either Linda or I hold. Some of the information sounds very familiar and I suspect it may have been posted to our "list" group before. I hope I'm not duplicating something. My letters were obviously transcribed from the originals because they were typed on the same, old style typewriter by someone who was keeping an extensive "Gudgel" file. At the top right corner of the letters, and on other pages I have from the same typewriter, are the words "Gudgel; page __." The page numbers go as 22, although I do not have all of them. There could have been more, too. On one of the pages (number 22) is the name Elzoe Prescott Clark Weissgerber, with an address from Chula Vista, Caliph and dated Oct., 1949. I don't know if Elzoe transcribed the letters. Can someone tell us about Elzoe? One thing puzzles me--the dates on the letter are very close in time, yet the writers were in different states and seemed to reply very quickly. Does anyone know how long it took for letters to be received in those days and over those distances? Because the letters have been transcribed by someone else, I can not say if they have been edited in some way. Of course it would be nice to find the originals to compare; but at least we have these. I am coping the letters as they appear to me with all the inaccurate misspellings, punctuation, and grammar. Note the wording in the last letter "oldest written instrument." Does this perhaps refer to Old Andrew's "naturalization" papers from PA or maybe the lawsuit from Kentucky? Sincerely, Dianne Gudgel-Holmes ____________________________ Office of L.W. Gudgel, Attorney at Law, Princeton, Gibson county, Ind. May 30th, 1893. Reuben Gudgell, Esq. Owingsville, Ky. My Dear Sir:-- Your letters written to my brother William H. of Evansville, Ind. asking about the Gudgels in this state, have all been forwarded to me to answer, as I am the only one out of about 150 Gudgels in this part of the State, who has taken any interest in the History of our family. I have delayed answering these letters to this day. We can look back only to my Great Grand Father, Andrew Gudgel, an uneducated German, who came to his State from Kentucky about the year 1812. He could neither read or write, so nothing back of the marble slab at the head of his grave, which is, with a few others, in one corner of the Old Gudgel farm near Owensville, this county, tells us in letters and words any of his history. He kept no family record, and as we get it only by tradition that he was twice married, and we know but little if anything positive about his first wife's children. All the Gudgels here srpung from his last wife Elizabeth Pain, whose body lies burried by his side. He died Aug. 16, 1815, aged 88 years and she died Dec. 2, 1823 aged 60 years. I say we have no written words that record any of his history, yet I have in my possession a part of a bond purporting to have been drawn by and between Andrew Godshel, a carpenter and on Christopher Truly, a wheelwright on the 17th day of November in the year 1756. while in the Province of Pennsylvania, which very clearly shows that he once lived in that State (or Province it was then). We have it by tradition that he came direct from Germany to Penna. Brother Will sent me the paper from your place in which was the article "Sale of an Old Homestead" in which it states that the Andrew Gudgell who lived there died in the year 1840. I am very anxious to get information from some of the childrens children of our Andrew Gudgel, by his first wife. Can you go back of the Andrew spoken of in that article, and give me names that would connect with the Andrew who died in 1815? Andrew is a common name in this branch--my fathers name is Andrew, the Andrew who came here about the year 1812, was an uneducated German and unable to either read or write, so the people of this County spelled his name in a varity of ways. My own Grand Father Gudgel was married to Lucy Thurman under the name of Godshall in 1824, and his family record down to 1833 spells the name in the same way. My Father says that about the year 1833, there was a letter received from Kentucky that stated that we were spelling the name wrong, so it was changed to Gudgel at that time. I have been urged by quite a number of the large family here to write and have printed in book form all the facts in the history of our branch of the Gudgels I can find. I have already collected quite a lot of facts, and when I have a few more reaching back to the head of the family, I will prepare the same for print. You will do me quite a favor, by giving me all the information you have, tending to show the relation existing between our families. The only two of our families who have met, are your daughter Oakela and myself in 1881-1882 at Cincinnati. I am 39 years of age, and have a wife and two boys. Hoping to hear from you, I am, yours truly, L.W. Gudgel __________________ Office of L.W. Gudgel, Attorney at Law Princeton, Gibson county, Ind June 3rd, 1893 Reuben Gudgel, Esq. Owingsville, Ky My Dear Sir:-- I was not only interested but delighted, on receiving your long letter and the Owingsville News-Outlook. You have furnished me more meat at the Gudgel family table, at one meal, than I have been able to collect for some years before. I am delighted to get the facts, that run back so far in our family history. I herewith send you for inspection a bit of the oldest written instrument we have in this branch of the family. I received this in 1885 from my Grand Mother Lucy Gudgel, after the deah of Grand Father William Gudgel. I found it in an old walnut box, size 8 x 12 in. and 7 in height which box my Grand Mother told me, was brought to this country by the Great Grand Father Andrew Gudgel, from Germany. Will you please return same. I am grateful to you if you will send me other Newspaper items on this subject. Many thanks. At any time I will gladly answer any questions about the family I can. Write again, yours, L.W. Gudgel. From jim.hall@ns.sympatico.ca Sat Mar 25 17:40:47 2000 Hi everyone. It's been a long time since I have written, but we have been actively researching those roots. This morning with the lovely spring sunshine and warmer than normal temperatures, Jim and I decided to take a trip to find the infamous "Maccabee Lodge" spoken about in e-mail messages dated Feb 27,2000. Surprisingly enough, we actually found this place, and even more fortunate for us, it happened to be open today to accept a bustour, but usually is seasonal and doesn't normally open until May 1st. We took quite a few pictures which turned out very well, some of the original building outside and some of the framed charter and assorted related items. The curator of the museum was most helpful with some compiled data she had in a file. This is what we discovered: The KOTM was established about 1885 in Muskegon, Mich. The Maccabees were organized and chartered in 1904, with a chapter established here in Nova Scotia in 1907. This was a fraternal order which covered members with insurance. The men's organization was known as Knights of The Maccabees (KOTM), and their clubs were referred to as" tents". The one established in Parkdale, NS was the 20th tent. The female auxiliary was called, "Maccabees, Ladies of the World (LOW) and their chapters were called "hives". The Supreme Tent was located in Detroit Mich. at 1021 Woodward Ave. In 1907, the Supreme Commander was D.P.Markey and the Supreme Record keeper was L.E. Sisler. The chapter here folded in the 1940's but the building remained in it's original form and was incorporated into a museum in 1960. The original Charter from 1907 was found behind a picture several years ago, probably in its original frame. We have these pictures and brochure and an imprint from their chapter seal. We will send this to you Bob or Linda, or perhaps to Doyle to use for the newsletter. Any part or all of this information may be used as well. We found the whole day very enjoyable and extremely interesting, and promised the people at the museum to provide them with a copy of anything printed with regard to their museum. We plan to return again during the regular open season, and if anyone out there would have any questions or would like us to research anything else, just ask. Bye for now, Shirley & Jim Hall (Your Canadian Gudgel Connection) From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Maccabee Lodge Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 07:22:22 -0500 Shirley and Jim- Thanks for the information on the Macabee Lodge. Great going! I had never even heard of it until it came up here. Live and learn . Linda From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: GUDGEL's & the 2000 CENSUS Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:27:18 -0500 Hi Everybody- I am mounting my soap box tonight since I just completed my 2000 Census form. If it weren't for it being my patriotic duty I would probably have trashed it. We did get the long form (20 pages for 2 people!) and I am wondering what the short form was like. The long form get a little too personal for my comfort zone I guess. Why do they care how much we paid in various utility bills, annual insurance premiums (for fire, hazard and floods), what time we leave for work and how long it takes us to get there, etc. If this info. gets in the wrong hands how do we know someone won't be casing our neighborhood? Maybe I am a "doubting Thomas" but we all know how our Federal government works and we can't be too careful. Maybe I'm over-reacting but it just fort of rubs me wrong. I think it was too personal. Anyone else care to comment? Am I the only one who got the long form? BTW, I saw a message on KY-Roots mail list that suggested anyone interested in genealogy should copy their Census Form and file it with their research. At first I thought it was a good idea till I filled mine out. Other than birth dates, location of birth , and place of employment I really don't know that anyone would be that interested in all of this other stuff. Nowhere did it ask for my maiden name or parent's names. I don't think my descendants will really care how much I paid in real estate taxes, if I had a second mortage, or if I had a flush toilet. I've had my say and thank you for letting me vent. I feel better, but still annoyed. Hope everyone has a great week! Linda from Kentucky-(absolutely gorgeous spring weather here). From: "Nancy Miller" To: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" , Subject: Re: the 2000 CENSUS Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:46:34 -0800 Linda, I had been wondering if we were ever going to get our census form in the mail, and feeling rather left out! Then this morning, appeared the census lady on our doorstep, with the short form, which she filled out in less than 5 minutes and was on her way. I certainly had no chance to make a copy of it, if I had wanted to, since I never had it in my hands. And though I tried to get her to put my maiden name on the form, she said that the initial was all they allowed. Now lets see if I can remember the questions. It starts out with the names, age, date of birth (but no place of birth), whether we own with mortgage, own outright, or rent, and that was about all, other than determining if anyone else lived here part time and if this was a vacation home or permanent residence. Nothing on occupation. She did do a series of questions on our ethnicity, being careful to cover any hispanic races. I wonder if that hispanic business is more prevalent in California. I know they are trying hard to get them all counted whether they are legal or illegal immigrants. That long form that Linda had really did sound rather invasive. I'm glad I didn't get it! Nancy T. Miller From: Gail Hohenberger To: "'Nancy Miller'" , , Subject: RE: the 2000 CENSUS Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 02:59:45 -0600 Linda, I received the long form also. I filled it out and mailed it last week. I had to dig out income tax records to answer it. I think the only question that wasn't on it was how many times a week that you go to the restroom! LOL Gail (Gudgel) Hohenberger From: EGudgel@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:14:41 EST Subject: Heather Gudgel Woods CC: bilehnert@worldnet.att.net, gcarman@worldnet.att.net, jan_1@webtv.net, desowitz@pinehurst.net, dubaleibell@juno.com, Homers1999@aol.com, GLaird76@aol.com, gcarmen@worldnet.att.net, DJGud3326@aol.com, RalphSherm@aol.com, btrslyblue@gibralter.net, nfn15763@naples.net, kwilliam@email.smith.edu Heather Woods is my grandniece. She is seven years old and has a malignant brain tumor. 1/3rd of it only could be surgically removed and is now undergoing radiation treatment She needs our prayers and I think get-well cards. Her full address is 1040 Pinnacle Rd Henrietta, NY 14467. Ed G. Fort Myers Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:01:43 -0900 From: Dianne Holmes To: jim.hall@ns.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: Maccabee Lodge-Parkdale, Nova Scotia Would someone please explain what this is all about? I don't know what the Maccabee Lodge is how it connects to our roots. Thanks, Dianne Gudgel-Holmes Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:48:19 -0400 From: jim.hall@ns.sympatico.ca (jim hall) To: dianeh@corecom.net, Gudgel List Subject: Re: Maccabee Lodge-Parkdale, Nova Scotia Dianne: The reference to Maccabee Lodge was made in a biography of James Clay Gudgel on the Gudgel list. Linda and Doyle were discussing this Lodge and wondering what it was. So Jim and I went to find out for them. Hope this clears up your concern..... Shirley From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Early PA info.-Andrew GOTTSCHALL Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 16:46:51 -0500 Hi folks- I have a document I found at the Kentucky History Center of some research done in 1926 by Miss Elizabeth Maddox of Clinton, IL. I have seen this before but it was not in it's entirety and while at the History Center Thursday evening I found the complete document. I guess with moving into the research facilty they apparently found this and refiled it. Could be it was in the wrong file. Anyway....here it is. ********************************************* Part 1: >From the Library of Bucks County Historical Society, Doylestown, Penna. Dec. 21, 1926 to Miss Elizabeth Maddox, 402 W. Jeffeson St., Clinton, Ill. Andrew GOTTSCHALL, if he came from Germany, arrived as a minor with his parents as his name does not appear in the list of Foreigners naturalized after 1727. You will notice that he was naturalized before a session of the Supreme Court of Penna. held for that purpose, April 11, 1749. He was then a resident of Franconia Township, now Montgomery Co, then and until 1784 a part of Philadelphia County. See deed by him and his wife dated May 30, 1749 by which they then of Franconia Township conveyed land in Bucks County. He acquired a tract of land on the line of Hilltown and Bedminster town ships by Patent in 1743. This was very near the site of Tohickon Church which is on the Bedminster side of the line. The tract purchased of Darrah was alittle further south. The transfer of the interest in the mill tract to the (exra?) of Frederick GOTTSCHALL suggests that the latter might be his father. These GOTTSCHALL's of Franconia and vicinity were Mennonites wo arrived in Penna, quite early most of them in or about the year 1700, several of them were ministers of the Mennonite churches in that vicinity. However, Andrew had two daughters baptised in Tohickon Reformed Church in 1750 and 1753 respectively. It looks to me as if he removed from Pennsylvania prior to the Revolution. The only solution of the fact his name does not appear on the records of soldiers is that he wasa noncombatabt Mennonite. Andrew GATSCHALL of Bedminster Township, Buck County, executed a mortgage to William Coleman a merchant of Philadelphia. Executor of Samuel Powell, deceased Nov. 9, 1749 to secure the payment of 100 pounds on a plantation and 159 acres of land lying along the line of Bedminster and Hilltown townships wich he had bought of Thomas Darrah, Nov. 8, 1749. Bucks County deed Book 8, page 62. This mortgage was satisfied in 1760 as having been paid by Benjamin Lancaster. Andrew GATSCHAL of the county of Bucks, Yeom and Catharine, his wife, on March 17, 1745, Deed Book 9, page 205, conveyed to Abraham Castine of Hilltown a one half interest or Moiety in a grist mill and 25 acres of land on Tohickon Creek where on GATSCHAL erected a grist mill and other improvements. The land having been patented to him by the Proprietors, John, Thomas and Richard Penn, January 28, 1743. Both Andrew and Catharine signing by mark. It was acknowledged by ANdrew in 1753 and the signatures of Catharine was proven in 1754. They conveyed he other moiety of the same tract May 30, 1749, Deed Book 9, page 211, as residents of Franconia township, Philadelphia County to Yost PANACKA, son-in-law and executor of the Will of Frederick GOTSCHALCK of Franconia and Anna Mary, widow and executor of said Frederick. These executors on June 19, 1749, convey this grist mill tract and a tract of 12 acres on the Tohickon to John TROUT, and the 22 acres is recited to be part of 217 acres patented to Frederick GOTSCHALCK, Feb. 10, 1738. Baptismal records of Tohickon Reformed Church, Bucks County, Penna, Andrew GOTSCHALL and Catharine Elizabeth, his wife, had a daughter Maria Johanna, baptised, July 7, 1750 (born June 10, 1750, sponsors Yoast PFANNEKUCKEN and his wife, Maria Agnesia and daughter Maria Johanna). Andrew GOTTSCHAL and wife Catharine Elizabeth,, daughter Esther, born May 7, Bapt. June 3, 1753. Sponsors, Henry Jeckel and wife. See pages 359 and 360. Andrew GOTTSCHALL and wife, sponsors for daughter of John KRAIT and wife, April 28, 1753, page 73. (This ends Part 1) Linda From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Part 2-Andrew GATSCHAL-early Penna. info. Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 17:07:42 -0500 Part 2: Hannah GUDGEL and Jesse MUSICK were married Nov. 7, 1801 in Woodford Co., KY ******************************************************************** >From Miriam Louise Stirl, 51 So. 8th St., Reading, PA. February 24, 1928 to Miss Elizabeht Maddon (sic-Maddox), 402 W. Jefferson St., Clinton, Ill. Reference, A History of Tohickon Union Church 1745-1854 vy Rev. Wm. J. Hinke, pub. auspices of German Society Location of Tohickon Union Church, near Kellersville, the extreme western corner of Bedminster Township, Bucks County, on old Bethlehem Road, 3 mi. south of Weisel P.O.; 4 miles south of the point where Old Bethlehem Road crosses Tohickon Creek. Among Lutheran Records, included in the above entries by Rev. John Martin SCHAEFFER. Page 359, Baptisims. Parents Andrew GOTTSCHALK and Catharine Elizabeth Child: Maria Johanna b. June 10, bapt. July 7, either 1750 or 1751 (year is not definite). Sponsors: Jost PFANNENKUCKEN and wife, Maria Agnesia and daughter Maria Johanna. Page 350-Same reference: Andrew GATTSCHALK and Catharine Elizabeth Child: Ester May, born May 7, Bapt. June 3, 1753. Sponsors, Henry Jeckel and wife. *************************************************************************** The above must clearly be your ancestor, all the GOTSCHALLS and SCHALLES or GODSHALLS of Bucks county in all likely places which I covered have no Andrew. Nicholas, Michael, Thomas, Fred. Sr., John, Christopher, John Thomas are the surnames of those residing in Bucks County, hense I do not forward any data concerning them. Since also none go further on your line. Then she sates, At least this much is established the year ANdrew is in Bucks, where abouts in Bucks, his Religion, 2 children and the wife's first name. (though he may have had a second wife). The reference given you is sufficient proof of a legal marriage for D.A. R. Reference records.. ************************************************************************** Thus Andrew and Catharine Elizabeth of Bucks have children born in 1750 and see date 1751, another in 1753. A son born to the in the 50's would easily be of proper military age by 1775-6-7 and serve thus. *************************************************************************** A letter dated Jan. 19, 1930 to Miss Maddox from Mrs. V. H. GOTTSCHALK of Washington, D.C. states that records in Virginia are far more complete than they are reputed to be. But never have been published as have records of the richer states; so they are not accessible. We can get at them thru records here in Washington. Copied by Elzoe P.C. Weissgerber 347 Kimball Terrace Chula Vista, Calif. _************************************************************************* This ends Part 2. Maybe this will shed some light on areas we haven't looked into.... like early Virgina? Apparently this Miss Maddox had paid for research and this was a report of their findings. Linda Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 17:06:07 -0900 From: Dianne Holmes To: Linda Gudgel Finnell Subject: Re: Part 2-Andrew GATSCHAL-early Penna. info. Dear Linda and all, I think we have discussed this research that Miss Maddox paid for in the 1920s on Old Andrew. I have copies of it too, but still wish there was a firmer link between the Andrew in Bucks Co who bought and sold land and baptized 2 daughters and our Old Andrew. It certainly seems like there is a good chance that this is our Old Andrew because of the IOU he made in Bucks Co in the 1750 and which took about 20 yrs to catch up with him in Fayette Co, but I still have my doubts. If his wife Catherine died, then what happened to his 2 daughters? They don't appear to have gone with him to Fayette Co. Can we find his marriage record to Barbara, the wife who clearly shows up in Fayette Co land records? I am wondering if the Andrew in Miss Maddox's research is ours, then perhaps research in to his siblings (sisters) genealogy might reveal that they adopted his motherless daughters and maybe even some correspondence between Andrew and his sisters later in life. It seems strange that they didn't keep together like so many other families did, at least in part. I have been in contact recently with an ancestor of one of the sisters- the wife of Yost Pancake. Apparently the Pancake family or children, moved to northern Virginia/West Virginia area. This is pretty close to SW PA. So maybe more research will confirm something. Dianne Gudgel-Holmes (bg) Just got 3 can't delivers for oldshepard@aol.com From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Just Stuff Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 23:29:30 -0400 Hi Everybody- It's been sort of quiet on the list lately and I just wanted to say "Hi" and see what's going on with you folks. I haven't had a lot of time for my research lately except for the last two weeks on Thursday nights I have been going with a friend to the Kentucky History Center. They stay open till 8:00 p.m. on Thursday nights so it's been a good time for me to read a lot of microfilm I hadn't had time to do. It's not so crowded or busy in the evening hours so I feel I can take my time. Everything is fine in Kentucky-real cold tonight- had a few flurries today, warmer tomorrow. The Spring meet for horse racing opened at Keeneland Friday meaning this is the last major prep races before the Kentucky Derby (first Saturday in May). Lots of BIG bucks being spent around Lexington and Louisville in the next couple of months. It's like the "Rite of Spring" to take a day off work and go to the races around here. I imagine lots of folks call in sick and wind up seeing the bosses there too! Hope everyone is doing okay. Linda From: Bob Gudgel Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 10:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: just stuff Flurries, huh, Linda? We had a beautifuly sunny day and Penny and I took a wonderful drive through the tulips for the tulip festival where all the tulip farmers open up their fields and everybody and their brother and sisters drive around and tiptoe through the tulips and take pictures etc. The prices aren't any better than buying them at the stores though. My sister, Dianne, and her husband, Chuck, and kid, Loren, came down a couple weeks ago and was nice to see them. While I'm here, thought I'd mention that oldshepard@aol.com has been getting bounced email lately. Four (4) of them now. Have a day!! (I'ts not sunny today though :| ) boB From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Fw: I need a favor, PLEASE! Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:14:50 -0400 Josh Wilhoit, age 21, from Versailles, KY, is in a modeling contest/search for Foster Grant Sunglasses. To enter he had to write an essay of why he wanted to win this contest and if he wins he will be awarded a trip to New York for a photo shoot with Cindy Crawford, who is a spokesman for Foster Grant. Josh has just returned from a two week stay in New York making contacts and photo shoots, etc. He's working really hard and hopes to be back in Los Angeles in a few months when he saves up enough money to get settled there. Several months ago he went to Los Angeles for a 2 week stay for a worldwide model search and got an almost unheard of 28 call backs in talent, modeling and best smile! We need you to vote for Josh at www.fostergrant.com and give our hometown boy a shot at winning. One vote per email address. Go to the page and click on "vote" and then "male", then look for "Kentucky". Votes can be placed until June 2nd. AND TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS TO VOTE FOR HIM TOO! His picture there has him looking good so lets help Josh out. I thank you and his mother (a co-worker of mine) thanks you too! Wouldn't any guy, regardless of age, love to meet Cindy Crawford?!!! Thanks, Linda From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Fw: Gudgel Family Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 07:11:46 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" To: "Gudgel List" Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 10:40 PM Subject: Fw: Gudgel Family > Below is a query I received today. I have three Calvin GUDGEL's in my > database. > > I.m sure some of your GUDGEL researcher's are more familiar with this line > than I, but please respond to him direct with a copy to the list so that we > can all have the information. > > Hope someone can help Don out. > Thanks, Linda > > --- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Robert Allison" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 10:06 PM > Subject: Gudgel Family > > > > Hi, > > > > Looking for Calvin Gudgel and his family... > > > > I have a cousin who father is Lawerance David Gudgel son or adopted son of > > Calvin Gudgel from southern Oklahoma and north Grayson County, Texas. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Don Allison > > > From: Gudgeld@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 12:50:29 EDT Subject: Calvin Gudgel To: als@gte.net, gudgel-list@eskimo.com I also have three Calvins, but the one that may fit is a Calvin Gudgel that died in Grayson Co., TX. I have very little on his descendants. The Calvin I have was the son of Andrew Gudgel and Elizabeth Staples. The line is "Old" Andrew Gudgel, >John Gudgel and Jane Harbison, >Andrew Gudgel and Elizabeth Staples, >Calvin Gudgel and Margaret Bell. Calvin was born on January 10, 1846 in Carthage, IL and died February 17, 1930 in Grayson Co., TX. Calvin and Mary had two children, Oswald and Florence. If this looks like it may be the right one, let me know and I will see what else I have. Dave Gudgel From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Fw: Calvin Gudgel Family Part 1 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:32:19 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mia K. Fleegel" To: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Cc: "Don Robert Allison" Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 8:58 PM Subject: Calvin Gudgel Family Part 1 > Hi Linda & Don, > > This Calvin Gudgel is from my branch of the family. I think the easiest > thing for me to do is send what I have input into my Family Tree maker > file. Linda, I'm sending it to you rather than the list because this email > address is not registered with Bob and it will bounce back. If either of > you find any mistakes please let me know. There are only a few of us from > the John Gudgel/Jane Harbison branch so there hasn't been alot of > discussion about their many children other than Andrew (b. 1809, KY) The > rest of the list might like to add this imformation to their files. I > have tried to present the documentation for everything as much as > possible. > > Don - Welcome to the Gudgel Family! > > Ancestors of Calvin Gudgel > Generation No. 1 > > 1. Calvin Gudgel, born 10 January 1844 in Carthage, Hancock Co., > IL1,2,3; died 17 February 1930 in Grayson Co., TX4,5. He was the son of > 2. Andrew Gudgel and 3. Elizabeth Staples. He married (1) Mary Bell 26 > December 1872 in Hannibal, Marion Co., MO6. She was born 12 February 1854 > in Pike Co., IL7, and died 6 July 1931 in Grayson Co., TX8. She was the > daughter of Ninninninas H. Bell and Ann Marie ? of Kinderhook Tp., Pike > Co., IL. Mary Bell is buried in Pottsboro, Grayson Co., TX > > Notes for Calvin Gudgel: > NAME COMPANY & UNIT RESIDENCE > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- > GUDGEL, CALVIN H 148 INF MOUND > STATION > > **************************************************************************** ********** > Dyer's Compendium > Pt. 3 (Regimental Histories) > ILLINOIS VOLUNTEERS. > 148th REGIMENT INFANTRY. > > Organized at Camp Butler, Ill., and mustered in February 21, 1865. Moved > to Nashville, Tenn., February 22-25, thence to Tullahoma, Tenn., March 1, > Attached to 1st Brigade, Defences Nashville & Chattanooga R. R. to April, > 1865. 2nd Brigade, 1st Sub-District, District of Middle Tennessee, Dept. > of the Cumberland, to June, 1865. 3rd Brigade, 1st Sub-District, District > of Middle Tennessee, to September, 1865. > > SERVICE.--Duty at Tullahoma, Tenn., till June 18, 1865; then distributed 5 > Companies at Decherd, 1 Company at McMinnville and 4 Companies guarding > Nashville & Chattanooga R. R. from Lombardy to Anderson's Station till > September. Mustered out at Nashville, Tenn., September 5, 1865. > > Regiment lost during service 2 Enlisted men killed and 1 Officer and 70 > Enlisted men by disease. Total 73. > > **************************************************************************** ********** > 1900 Federal Census > Chocktaw Nation, OK > Vol 8 Enumeration District 145 Sheet 20 Line 5 > TWP4 SR 4E > > Gudgil, Calvin Head Jan 1844 56 > Illinois > Mary Wife Feb 1854 46 Illinois > Annie dau Feb 1880 20 > Texas > Otis dau Dec 1881 18 Texas > Minnie dau July 1885 14 Arkansas > Kelley dau Nov 1887 12 Texas > Louis son Jan 1890 10 Illinois > Lawrence son Mar 1892 8 Indian Territory > > (The i is correct. Guess the census taker misspelled). > **************************************************************************** ********** > Declaration for Pension > State of Texas > County of Grayson > On this 4" day of May A.D. one-thousand nine hundred and Seven > personally appeared before me, a Notary Public within and for the county > and State aforesaid, Calvin Gudgel, who being duly sworn according to law, > declares that he is 63 years of age, and a resident of Pottsboro county of > Grayson, State of Texas; and that he is the identical person who was > ENROLLED at Quincy, Ill under the name of Calvin Gudgel, on Feb, 1865, as > a Private, in Co. H, 148th Ills Inft. in the service of the United States, > in the Civil war, and was HONORABLY DISCHARGED at Springfield Ill, on > Sept, 1865. That he was not employed in the military or naval service of > the United States otherwise than as stated above. That his personal > description at enlistment was as follows; Height, 6 feet 1 inches; > complexion, fair; color of eyes, Grey; color of hair, Black; that his > occupation was Farmer; that he was born 10th Jan, 1844, at Carthage Ill. > That his several places of residence since leaving the service > have been as follows; Brown Co., Ill, Pike Co., Ill Mannville, I & > Pottsboro Texas. > That he is a pensioner. That he has hertofore applied for pension > no of certificate 1012185. > That he makes this declaration for the purpose of being placed on > the pension roll of the United States under the provisions of the act of > February 6, 1907. > That his post-office address is Pottsboro, county of Grayson, > State of Texas > Calvin Gudgel > Attest: (1) Wallace Harris > (2) D.R. Harris . . . > > J F. Bennett > Notary Public for Grayson County, Texas > My Com. expires 6/1/07 > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > The State of Texas ) > County of Grayson ) > Before me the undersigned authority this > day personally apperaed, Calvin Gudgel, personally known to me, and who > being duly sworn deposes and says, that his mother Betsy Gudgel, died as > he has been told, in the year of about 1847, and that he was about three > years old at the date of her death; and that the members of his family who > were living, from June, 1850, to 1860, were as follows; Father Andy > Gudgel, and Step-Mother, Betsey Gudgel. (whose given name was the same as > my own mother), Sisters as follows, Rebecca Jane Gudgel, and Evelin > Gudgel, and brothers as follows, Marion Gudgel, John Gudgel, and Allen > Gudgel. > After my own mother's death, in about 1847, I lived with my uncle > Sam Staples, who lived in Adams county, Ill. Carthage was his Post > Office, untill about 1851 at which time my father Andy Gudgel, married the > second time, and took me home to live with him. My Father Andy Gudgel, > lived in Hancock county Ill. at the date of his second marriage, his Post > Office, at that time was Chilie, Ill. In about 1853 my father moved to > Pike Co., Ill. near the line of Adams county, at which place Payton > [Payson] was his Post Office, and that was my home untill 1860, and for > several years thereafter. These statements are made from memory, as there > never was any Bible, or Church, record of the family that i ever knew of, > and the date of my birth was given me by my oldest sister Rebecca Jane > Gudgel. Calvin Gudgel [his signature] > Sworn and subscribed to before me the undersigned this the 22" day > of February A.D. 1915 > E.A. Wright > Notray Public in and for Grayson County Texas. > My commission expires June the first 1915. > > **************************************************************************** ********** > THE GUDGEL STORY > by Vera Piester Wormington > > In the spring of 1871 Marion, his brothers Calvin and Allen and their > families migrated from Iowa to Maryville, Kansas where they parted. Over > 40 years later Calvin and Allen visited Marion in Gresham, Nebraska." > > **************************************************************************** ********** > From: Larrgudgel@aol.com > Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:12:59 EDT > Subject: Re: Minnie GUDGEL > To: lfinnell@lex.infi.net > > Minnie is daughter of Calvin and Mary Gudgel. > Minnie has brothers and sisters > they are: > Annie--Married to Will Martin-buried in Gracemont Ok > Ottis-daughter-Married to Ellar Brownen-buried in Gracemont Ok > Callie (called Kelly in Bill's Chickasaw census)-married Austin Davis and > lived life in Hale Center Texas > Louis Allen-My Grandfather-Married Ether Gertrude Holman-both buried in > Gracemont Okla > Lawrence-I believe Buried in Denison Texas > ED > Harry > Both Ed and Harry are lost somewhere > Louise received a telegram (Sometime ??), according to my aunt Winnie > Anthony > (from Gracemont) that Harry had died. I do not know where or when. > > > More About Calvin Gudgel: > Burial: 18 February 1930, Georgetown Cemetery, Denison,Grayson Co., TX > Cause of Death: Ulcer of Prostate Gland > Fact 8: 5 September 1865, Mustered out Nashville, Tenn. - Capt Morris > Medical Information: Auburn hair, Hazel eyes, light complexion9 > Mil Rec: 3 February 1865, Mustered into 148th Ill Inf., Co. H - Capt. > Asbury, Quincy, Ill > Occupation: Farmer > Residence: 1865, Mound Station, Illinois > > > From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Fw: Calvin Gudgel Family Part 2 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:32:49 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mia K. Fleegel" To: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Cc: "Don Robert Allison" Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 9:04 PM Subject: Calvin Gudgel Family Part 2 > Generation No. 2 > > 2. Andrew Gudgel, born Abt. 1809 in Kentucky; died 23 December > 1878 in IL. He was the son of 4. John Gudgel and 5. Jane Harbison. He > married 3. Elizabeth Staples 27 September 1832 in Jefferson Co., IN10. > 3. Elizabeth Staples, born Abt. 1815 in IN; died 29 June 1849 in > Hancock Co., IL11. > > Notes for Andrew Gudgel: > > 1840 Federal Census > Scott County, Indiana > page 471 > > GUDGELL, Andrew males: 1 (20-30) > females: 1 (under 5), 1 (20-30) > _______________________________________________________________________ > > 1850 Federal Census > Hancock County, Illinois > page 421, lines 15-24 > > 2156/2163 GUDGEL, Andrew 41 Farmer KY > Elizabeth 28 OH > MILLER, Lovina C 8 OH > Shanon A. 1 IL > GUDGEL, Francis M. 17 IN > Rebecca I. 15 IN > John W. 13 > IN > Allen 11 IN > Eveline 7 IL > Calvin 4 IL > Taken November 17, 1850 > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > 1860 Federal Census > Pike County, Illinois > Kinderhook Tp. > page 37-38 > > 95 JUGGLE, Andrew 50 KY > Elizabeth 70 OH > Calvin 14 IL > Sherman? 11 IL > David 8 IL > Louis 2 IL > Andrew 7/12 IL > _______________________________________________________________________ > > 1870 Federal Census > Pike County, Illinois > Kinderhook Tp. > page 195 B > > 131/133 GUDGELL, Orlando? 60 VA > Catharine 32 KY > Calvin 24 IL > David 18 IL > Sharon? 21 IN Blind attending > school > Elmer 2 IL > Taken 6 July 1870 > _______________________________________________________________________ > > THIS IS OUR PROOF THAT ANDREW GUDGEL IS THE SON OF JOHN GUDGEL OF > JEFFERSON CO., IN: > > Jefferson Co., IN Deeds - > Book 13, page 696 > December 7, 1852 > Andrew Gudgel and Eliza Elizabeth Gudgel of Adams County, Illinois appoint > Andrew J. Meuzey of Jeffersonville, Clark Co., IN with power of attorney > to sell right and title in SW Qtr. and East 1/2 SE Qtr. 21-4-8. > > Book 13, page 697 > January 19, 1853 > . . .this property was sold to Andrew W. Blake "the undivided 1/11th part > of SW Qtr. and of East 1/2 of SE Qtr., part of the estate of John Gudgel". > _______________________________________________________________________ > > PENSION APPLICATION OF ANDREW GUDGEL UPON THE DEATH OF HIS SON JOHN W. : > Quincy Ill August 23 1869 > > This is to certify > That Andrew Gudgel applicant for Pension No. 152612 was > the father of the deceased Soldier John W. Gudgel of the 99 Regt. Ill. > Vol. that deceased left neither widow nor minor children surving and that > the aforesaid Andrew Gudgel the father of deceased was at the time of his, > the deceased death, and had been for some time before deceased unlisted in > the army, unable to support himself by his own labor having some two or > three small children to support. That his disability was caused by > continued and succesive attacks of Intermittent fever and Pneumonia, > occassioned by his residing on the Mississippi Bottom for many years. > Deceased was his main support his contribution toward that purpose > amounting at least to one hundred and twenty five dollars per year. This > had been the case for at least a year prior to enlistment of deceased and > his father was expecting the same from him after he entered the army and > up to his decease. The manner of his help towards his father's support > was by contributing of his money earned by laboring on a farm & trading > some in horses and other stock. This money thus expended was used in > procuring the necessities in housekeeping in a very humble way. > I have no interest in the above claim if ever collected. > My information in relation to the facts above stated was derived from my > having been the family physician of Andrew Gudgel for ten years or more > prior to and up to the time of the enlistment of deceased in the army and > being in the neighborhood and sometimes at the house afterwards. > M.M Bauer M.D. > Late Col. 50th Ill In. > Vol. > Subscribed and sworn to before me this 23 of August 1869 and I further > certify that the affiant was a regular practicing physision in good > standing previous to his entering the United States service as colonel of > the 50th Regt. Ill Inft in the 1861 and was then personally well known to > me. I futher certify that I have no enterest whatever in the above claim. > Charles A. Morton > Clerk County Court > Adams County, Illinois > > Civil War Pension records of John Gudgel, son of Andrew > _______________________________________________________________________ > > SOURCE OF DEATH DATE FOR ANDREW GUDGEL: > (Pensioner Dropped) > U.L Pension Agency, > Chicago Ill > May 12, 1880 > > Hon. J.A. [Bentley] > Commissioner of Pensions. > > Sir: > I hereby report that the name of Andrew Gudgel (father), who was a > pensioner on the rolls of the Agency under Certificate No. 135172, and who > was last paid at $8., to 23 Dec, 1878, has been dropped, because of Death > paid widow Catharine. > Very Respectfully > [Ada C.] Sweet > Pension Agent > _______________________________________________________________________ > > More About Andrew Gudgel: > Burial: Journey Cemetery, Pike Co., IL (THIS INFORMATION FROM HIS GRANDSON > WILLIAM ELMER GUDGEL OF PIKE CO., IL - NO STONE) > Mil Rec: none > Occupation: Farmer > Residence: 7 December 1852, living in Adams Co., IL > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Notes for Elizabeth Staples: > 1850 Mortality Schedule > Hancock County, Illinois > page 316, line 4 > > name: GUDGEL, Elizabeth > age: 34 > born: Indiana > died: June 1849 > cause: childbirth > ill: one day > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Children of Andrew Gudgel and Elizabeth Staples are: > i. Rebecca Jane Gudgel, born 14 September 1834 in > Jefferson Co., IN12; died 12 September 1925 in McKee Tp., Adams Co., IL13; > married (1) Ezra Jessup 20 March 1859 in Hancock Co., IL14; born in IL; > married (2) William S. Peterson 25 November 1877 in Adams Co., IL15; born > October 1833 in OH. > > Notes for Rebecca Jane Gudgel: > 1900 Federal Census > Beverly Tp., Adams County, Illinois > page 1, line 37+ > > 9/9 PETERSON, William head Oct. 1833 66 OH > OH OH Farmer > Rebecca J. wife Sept. 1834 65 IN KY KY > HULSE, Trummy ? g-son Feb 1880 20 IL IL IL > > all three can read and write, > William owned his farm free of mortgage and was employed every > month of the year > Rebecca was the mother of 6 children, 4 living. > _______________________________________________________________________ > Children of Rebecca Jane Gudgel and Ezra Jessup: > 1.Marinda "Mae" Jessup was born on December 30, 1859 in > Illinois. She married Judson Cutforth (1858 - 1931) on September 26, 1883 > in Adams County, Illinois and was the mother of 5 children. She died June > 10, 1931 in St. Mary's Hospital in Quincy, Adams County, Illinois. > 2.Oscar Jessup born in 1869 and died in 1935 > 3.Anna who married a Mr. Hendricks and was living in New > York City in 1941. > Mae and Oscar are both buried in Pleasant View Cemetery in Liberty > Tp., Adams County, Illinois. > > More About Rebecca Jane Gudgel: > Burial: 13 September 1925, Pleasant view Cemetery, 3 miles east of > Liberty, Liberty Tp., Adams Co., IL > Cause of Death: Arterio Sclorosis & Cardiac Insuffiency > Medical Information: Ill 2 years according to Death Certificate.Attended > by Dr. E. J. Gaburet?, Payson, IL from Sept. 3, 1925 to Sept. 12, 1925. > Death occurred at 4:00 a.m. > Occupation: Housewife > > ii. Francis Marion Gudgel, born 23 November 1834 in > Lard, Jefferson Co., IN; died 23 August 1918 in at home, Gresham, York > Co., NE16; married (1) Rebecca Valentine 19 January 1858 in Terre Haute, > Henderson Co., NE17; born 6 July 1836 in Marietta, Washington Co., OH18; > died 7 May 1898 in Stratton, Hitchcock Co., NE19; married (2) Anna Dee 22 > September 1901 in Stratton, Hitchcock Co., NE; born 17 March 1857 in > Germany. > > Notes for Francis Marion Gudgel: > Dyer's Compendium, Pt. 3 (Regimental Histories) > ILLINOIS VOLUNTEERS. > > 91st REGIMENT INFANTRY. > > Organized at Camp Butler, Ill., and mustered in September 8, 1862. Moved > to Shephardsville, Ky., October 1-7, 1862. Attached to Railroad Guard, > Department of the Ohio, to December, 1862. District of St. Louis, Mo., > February to July, 1863. . . > > SERVICE.--Guarding Louisville & Nashville R. R. and scouting through > Kentucky after Morgan October 7 to December 27, 1862. Actions with Morgan > at Nolin Station and Bacon Creek December 26, and at Elizabethtown, Ky., > December 27. Regiment captured and paroled December 28. On duty as paroled > prisoners of war at Benton Barracks, Mo., February 28 to June 5, 1863. . . > > Regiment lost during service 12 Enlisted men killed and mortally wounded > and 1 Officer and 131 Enlisted men by disease. Total 144. > **************************************************************************** *** > Civil War record of Francis Marion Gudgel: > > MEMORANDUM FROM PRISONER OF WAR RECORDS > Gudgel, Merrian Rank: C > Gudgell No. of Reg't: 91st > Gudgill, M. State: Ills > Gudgell, Marion Arm of Service: I > Co. : B > Information obtained from: > Mis. Roll vol. 378 page EN4 vol. ---- page 3 > B.B. Roll vol.132 page --- vol 192 page -- > " " " vol. 230 > B.B. vol. 5 page 104 > > Captured at Bacon Creek, KY, Dec. 26, 1862, confined at Richmond, Va. > Paroled at Red Mills, Dec. 26,1862; reported at Benton Bcks, Mo Feb. > 11/14, 1863. > Present at B.B. Feb 28, & March 31, 1863 --- Roll dated B.B. April 30, 63, > shows him "discharged" > (date not given) copied by A.F. > > > Pens. x98172 Pratt 6.85 > Army of the United States > Certificate of Disability for Discharge > > Corporal Marion Gudgell of Captain J.A. James Company, B, of the 91st > Illinois Regiment of the United States Inft. Vol, was enlisted by Captain > J. A. James, of the said Regiment of Ills Infr-Vols at Terre Haute on the > 5 day of August 1862, to serve three years; he was born in Jefferson, in > the State of Indiana, is 28 years of age, 6 feet 3/4 inches high, darke > complexion, grey eyes, Black hair, and by occupation when enlisted a > Farmer. During the last two months said soldier has been unfit for duty > 60 days. > > Station: Genl. Hospital, Benton Barracks, Mo. > Date: April 15, 1863 > > I certify, that I have carefully examined the said Marion Gudgell of > Captain J.A. James Company, and find him incapable of performing the > duties of a soldier because of Consumption -- both lungs tuberculorn. In > my opinion there was predisposition to pulmonary disease, prior to > enlistment. He has not benn able to do duty for four months, and is not > able to labor for subsistence. > > Ira Nussell?, Surgeon > U.S.A. > Discharged this 25 day of April 1863, at Burton Barracks, Mo. > B.L. Bonneville, Col. > U.S.A. > Commanding the Post Burton > Barracks > **************************************************************************** *** > THE GUDGEL STORY > by Vera Piester Wormington > > "Marion said the army advised him to stay there because he was dying and > they could bury him cheaper than his family could. He walked home (from > Missouri to Indiana) begging for food on the way. After that he was > always sympathetic for others who asked for food. He lived 45 more years. > > In the spring of 1871 Marion, his brothers Calvin and Allen and their > families migrated from Iowa to Maryville, Kansas where they parted. Over > 40 years later Calvin and Allen visited Marion in Gresham, Nebraska." > > **************************************************************************** *** > Cemetery Records > Blue Ridge Cemetery-Polk Co., Nebraska: > > GUDGEL, Carl b. May 14, 1904 d. June 28, 1904 > GUDGEL, Hettie L. b. 1867 d. 1931 > GUDGEL, John b. Nov. 9, 1858 d. March 21, 1900 > > GUDGEL, Rebecca b. July 6, 1836 d. May 7, 1898 > GUDGEL, Ross A. b. 1892 > d. 1918 > GUDGEL, Stephen A. b. 1864 d. 1949 > > Land for this cemetery was given June 6, 1876 by Josiah C. COX and wife, > Mary Jane. > One of the first three Trustees for the cemetery board was Marion GUDGELL. > > More About Francis Marion Gudgel: > Burial: 25 August 1918, Blue Ridge Cemetery, Polk Co., NE > Cause of Death: Valvular Heart Disease > Medical Information: Attended byW.W. Hylton(sp?), M.D. from April 12, 1918 > to August 22, 1918. Death occurred at 4:30 pm on August 23, 1918. > Mil Rec: Co. B, 91st Ill. Inf. - Civil War, residence Terre Haute > Occupation: Farmer > > iii. John W. Gudgel, born Abt. 1838 in IN20; died 25 > November 1862 in Post Hospital, Rolla, MO. > > Notes for John W. Gudgel: > Illinois Civil War Veterans Database > http://www.sos.state.il.us/cgi-bin/civilwar > > NAME COMPANY & UNIT RESIDENCE > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- > GUDGEL, JOHN H 99 INF KINDERHOOK > > **************************************************************************** *** > Dyer's Compendium, Pt. 3 (Regimental Histories) > ILLINOIS VOLUNTEERS. > 99th REGIMENT INFANTRY. > > Organized at Florence, Ill., and mustered in August 23, 1862. Moved to St. > Louis, Mo., August 23-24, 1862. At Benton Barracks, Mo., till September 8. > Moved to Rolla September 8. Attached to District of Rolla, Dept. of the > Missouri, to November, 1862. . . > > SERVICE.--Moved from Rolla to Salem, Mo., September 17, 1862, and duty > there till November 20. Moved to Houston, Mo., November 20, and duty there > till January 27, 1863. Action at Beaver Creek, Texas County, November 24. > 1862. . . > > Regiment lost during service 4 Officers and 47 Enlisted men killed and > mortally wounded and 1 Officer and 120 Enlisted men by disease. Total 172. > > **************************************************************************** *** > Adjutant General's Report > History of Ninety-Ninth Infantry > page 536 - 537 > > The ninety-ninth infantry was organized in Pike county in August, > 1862 by Colonel George W.K. Bailey of Pittsfield, and was mustered in at > Florence, Pike county, August 23 by Captain J.H. Rathbone; on the same day > moved to St. Louis, Mo.; and went into Benton Barracks on the 24th, where > it received its equipments, being the first Regiment out of the State > under the call of 1862. > September 8, was sent to Rolla, MO; thence September 17, to Salem, > Dent county, thence, November 20, to Houston, Texas county. Was assigned > to the Brigade of Brigadier General FitzHenry Warren. Was engaged in a > skirmish at Bear Creek, losing 1 killed, 4 wounded and 1 taken prisoner, > and in the battle of Hartsville lost 35 killed and wounded. > > **************************************************************************** *** > Copperheads, Black Republicans and Bushwhackers: Pike County, Illinois > and the Civil War > Walter S. Waggoner > Windmill Publications, Inc > 1999 > > page 60 > Before leaving for Florence and from there to St. Louis, the > Niney-ninth Illinois Regiment of Volunteers gathered at the square in > Pittsfield to say their good-byes. The Pike County Democrat described the > scene: > > ...All is in commotion. The public square is filled with > squads of volunteers, and mingling with them > are various ladies - wives, mothers, sweethearts, we > judge, who have followed them to Pittsfield to bid them a final adieu. > Fifes are playing, drums are beating and flags flying. Our usually quiet > town is all bustle and excitement, and slightly resembles a > military encampment. > > page 61 > The Ninety-ninth was mustered into the service August 23 at > Florence on the Illinois River. An historical marker exists on the site > near the Illinois River where the Ninety-ninth left at Florence. The men > of the Ninety-nith embarked by steamboat the night of August 23 for St. > Louis. There the regiment was armed and equipped at Benton Barracks in > the north of St. Louis. From the Benton Barracks the regiment went to > Rolla, Missouri. The soldiers rode in open cattle railway cars and > arrived at Rolla in the darkenss of the evening of September 12. > From Rolla the Ninety-ninth went to Salem, Missouri on September > 17 and on November 20 the unit went to Houston, Missouri. > > page 68 > [A] letter appeared in the [September 23, 1862] issue of the Pike > County Democrat. . .It was written by James H. Crane of Pittsfield and > Company G of the Ninety-ninth Illinois Regiment that was known by now as > simply, "the Pike County Regiment". Crane described how when the boys of > the Niney-ninth arrived at Benton Barracks in St. Louis, their biggest > progem was the water. He also complained about the fleas and mosquitoes > that were pests. When the Pike County Regiment left for Rolla, Crane > described the march as being through territory "....so poor that a jay > bird couldn't get a living." The biggest problem on arriving at Rolla was > water again. The people of the area told the men that the wells were dry. > The Pike County men found that the wells were actually locked up. > Undaunted the men used a fence rail to pry a well open. The first night > at Rolla was spent in old and deteriorated tents which were lousy, i.e. > literally crawling with lice. Such was a soldier's life. > In his letter, James Crane wrote that there had been much > sickness, but that no one of the Pike County Regiment had died yet. > > page 69 > Melville D. Massie also wrote of the Ninety-ninth Illinois > Regiment to "Friend Abbott" of the Democrat from Salem, Missouri in a > letter dated October 19, 1862. Massie also described the health of the > Pike County Regiment as "what old soldiers call good" but mentioned that > there were many sick. > > **************************************************************************** *** > More About John W. Gudgel: > Cause of Death: Typho-pneumonia > Medical Information: by reason of chronic diarrhea induced by exposure in > the service and in the line of his duty. > Mil Rec: 12 August 1862, Private - Co. H, 99th Illinios Volunteers, > Residence - Kinderhook > > iv. Allen Gudgel, born March 1839 in IN21; married (1) > Mary Ramage 13 August 1862 in Adams Co., IL22; married (2) Lydia > Fitzpatrick 5 September 1866 in Adams Co,. IL22; born June 1842 in OH23. > > Notes for Allen Gudgel: > THE GUDGEL STORY > by Vera Piester Wormington > > In the spring of 1871 Marion, his brothers Calvin and Allen and their > families migrated from Iowa to Maryville, Kansas where they parted. Over > 40 years later Calvin and Allen visited Marion in Gresham, Nebraska." > > **************************************************************************** *** > 1880 Federal Census > Just. Prec.#3 > Grayson County, Texas > v.14 ,e.d.9, sheet 31, line 8 > > Gudgel, Allen Head 41 Indiana > Lyda Wife 37 Ohio > Lorrance Son 12 Illinois > Stella Dau 9 Missouri > Lizza Dau 8 Illinois > Clarrance Son 5 Illinois > Ottis Dau 3 Texas > Charles Son 11/12 Texas > (Note: I think there were 2 R's In Clarrance) > > > More About Allen Gudgel: > Residence: moved to Pottsboro, TX near Deniston > > v. Eveline Gudgel, born Abt. 1843 in Hancock Co., IL. > 1 vi. Calvin Gudgel, born 10 January 1844 in Carthage, > Hancock Co., IL; died 17 February 1930 in Grayson Co., TX; married Mary > Bell 26 December 1872 in Hannibal, Marion Co., MO. > vii. infant Gudgel, born 29 June 1849 in Hancock Co., > IL; died 29 June 1849 in Hancock Co., IL. > > > From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" To: "Gudgel List" Subject: Fw: Calvin Gudgel Family Part 3 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:33:13 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mia K. Fleegel" To: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Cc: "Don Robert Allison" Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 9:06 PM Subject: Calvin Gudgel Family Part 3 > Generation No. 3 > > 4. John Gudgel24,25, born 1776 in PA; died 1851 in Jefferson Co., > IN26. He was the son of Andrew Gudgel and Catherine Elizabeth ?. He > married 5. Jane Harbison 23 May 1804 in Woodford Co., KY27. > 5. Jane Harbison, born Abt. 1782 in VA; died May 1860 in Graham > Tp., Jefferson Co., IN28. She was the daughter of David Harbison and > Catherine Dougherty. > > Notes for John Gudgel: > A photocopy sent to Bob Gudgel from Victor Shackleton no documentation as > to origin included. Original script believed to be from Woodford county > court records. > > ABSTRACT: > George Brooke indentured Jeremiah Edrington to John Gudgel as a result of > a court order (October 1805). George did this as a clerk function for the > court. Penny (my wife) noticed that the indentured (Jeremiah) didn't mark > or sign the indenture. > > "This indenture made the 8th day of April, 1806 between George Brooke > clerk of the Woodford county court of the state of Kentucky of the one > part and John Gudgel of the county and state aforesaid witness that > agreable to an order of October court 1805 George Brooke for and in > consideration of the stipulations and covenants hereafter mentioned to be > performed as the part of the said John Gudgel hath ?bore? and by these > presents doth bind Jeremiah Edrington to the said Gudgel and the said > Brooke on his part covenants that these said ?ielding serve the said > Gudgel from and after this date until he is one and twenty years of age as > a good and faithful apprentice ought to do and the said Gudgel as his part > covenants that he shall during the time terms aforesaid teach and instruct > the said Jeremiah to the best of his ability and skill in the art and > mystery of a tanner that he will treat him with humanity and furnish him > with good and holesome food, lodging and apparel and at the expiration of > his apprentiship that he will deliver him up this indenture give him a > horse worth 50 dollars a saddle and bridal and a suit of clothes and that > he will in due time send him to school until he learns reading, writing, > and arithmetic as far as the rule of three. > > In witness whereof they have here unto set their hands and seals > the day and date above mentioned. > John Gudgel (seal) > Geo: Brooke (seal) > Woodford county > April 1806 > This writing was acknowledged by the partys thereto and is recorded in my > office. > Geo: Brooke C.C. > " > **************************************************************************** ********** > PISGAH CHURCH HISTORY > Hoosier Journal of Ancestry > Vol I > page 58 & 59 > > Located in Jefferson County, Indiana, near the Jennings County line. . . > In the summer of 1818 the families of the neighborhood decided to > build a permanent building for a church and on July 21, 1818, a > subscription paper for the purpose of building a meeting-house for the > benefit of the Methodist church, to be built on the land of Adam Troutman, > near Racoon Spring, was circulated, which read: "the said Troutman will > furnish one or more acres of land if necessary, for which he will make a > deed forever, for building the meeting-house on and for a graveyard- - - > -" Names of those who gave money are the following: . . .John Gudgel. . > .The church was built of logs in that year and by Nov. 5, 1818, was ready > to use. It was a small structure and built on a hill over a place where > the monument of John Craig Wilson stands. > When the first circuit rider came up to it, he stood and looked up > at the building a few minutes and finally said, "Mount Pisgah". The word > Mount was later dropped and the church has been called Pisgah for many > years. It is located two miles southeast of Deputy, Indiana, in Jefferson > County. . . > A second church which took the place of the old log church was > built further down the hill and was a frame structure erected in 1832. A > third structure was erected of brick in 1852-53 and is the church building > now standing which in 1953 celebrated its centennial on Sunday July 26. > > **************************************************************************** ********** > 1810 Federal Census > Woodford County, Kentucky > > GUDSHALL males: 3 (under 10), 1 (10-16), 1 (26-45) > females: 1 (under 10), 2 (16-26) > ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ > > 1840 Federal Census > Graham Township > Jefferson County, Indiana > page 357 > GUDGEL, John males: 1 (60-70), > females: 1 (60-70), > ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ > > 1850 Federal Census > Graham Township > Jefferson County, Indiana > page 251 > > 432 GUDGELL, John 74 Farmer PA > Jane 65 VA > Wesly 22 IN > > **************************************************************************** ********** > Jefferson County, Indiana > Probate Records > > Book I (1850-1852) > page 591 > December 13, 1851 > Jane Gudgel renounces her right to administer the estate > of John, her husband, deceased and requests the court to appoint Andrew W. > Blake as adm., dated 10 Dec. 1851, and Blake receives letters of > administration, it has been more than 15 days since John died. > > page 594 Blake filed inventory dated 3 January 1852 > > Book J (Feb. 1852 - Nov. 1853) > page 1 > February 9, 1852 Administration of Blake approved by court. > > page 370 > May 3, 1853 He reports final settlement and received his settlement > December 10, 1856. > > Children of John Gudgel and Jane Harbison are: > i. America Gudgel, died Bef. September 1848; married > Daniel G. Whitsett 8 August 1844 in Jefferson Co., IN29; born 182430; died > 191030. > > Notes for Daniel G. Whitsett: > 1850 Federal Census > Graham Township > Jefferson County, Indiana > page 250 > > WHITSETT, Daniel G. 24 > Martha A. 20 > Nancy J. 1 > > More About Daniel G. Whitsett: > Burial: Wiggam Cemetery, Graham Tp., Jefferson Co., IN > > ii. Mariah Gudgel, born Abt. 1806 in KY31; married > William Robinson 21 June 1827 in Jefferson Co., IN32,33; born Abt. 1804 in > IN34. > > Notes for Mariah Gudgel: > Jefferson County, Indiana Court House > Deed Book 9 > Page 675 > > William and Mariah Robertson of Hancock Co., IL quit claimed to Andrew W. > Blake, all SW Qtr. and E 1/2 SE Qtr. 21-4-8 > 20 January 1853 > > More About Mariah Gudgel: > Residence: moved to Hancock Co., IL > > Notes for William Robinson: > 1850 Federal Census > Hancock County, Illinois > page 313 > > 608/609 ROBINSON, William 46 Farmer 1300 IN > Maria 44 KY > illiterate > Margaret 15 IL > Emily L. 13 IL > William A. 10 IL at > school > Caroline A. 7 IL at > school > James H. 4 IL > Maria 1 IL > LAFAYETTE, Jane 21 > Sarah A. 9/12 > ROBINSON, Mary E. 17 > Taken 10 October 1850 > > More About William Robinson: > Residence: moved to Hancock Co., IL > > iii. Allen Gudgel, born Abt. 1807 in KY; died Bef. > November 1838; married Rebecca Robertson 29 November 1832 in Jefferson > Co., IN35,36; born Abt. 181037. > > Notes for Allen Gudgel: > Jefferson County, Indiana > Madison, IN > Deed Book 11, page 442 > > David and Elizabeth Fouts of Clark Co. quit claim unto . . . All > our undivided 1/11th part of SW Qtr. 21-4-8 and one undivided 1/11th part > of E1/2 SE Qtr. T4 R8. The interest of Elizabeth Fouts, formerly > Elizabeth Gudgel, daughter and only heir of Allen Gudgel, deceased, who > inherits the above described land from John Gudgel, deceased. > > 2 iv. Andrew Gudgel, born Abt. 1809 in Kentucky; died 23 > December 1878 in IL; married (1) Elizabeth Staples 27 September 1832 in > Jefferson Co., IN; married (2) Betsy Shaner 11 February 1850 in Hancock > Co., IL; married (3) Catherine ? Abt. 1869. > v. David Gudgel, born Abt. 1810 in KY; died Aft. 1880; > married Elmira Fitch 30 May 1833 in Jefferson Co., IN38; born Abt. 1807; > died 30 July 184239. Elmira is buried in the Pisgah Cemetery, Jefferson > Co., IN > > Notes for David Gudgel: > http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ > 11/16/98 > > Bureau of Land Management > Eastern States, General Land Office > > Patentee Name Signature Date Document NR. Accession NR. > > GUDGEL, David 9/2/1838 9286 > IN2660__.242 > _____________________________________________________________________ > 1840 Federal Census > Scott County, Indiana > page 465 > > GUDGELL, David Males: 1 (5-10), 1 (20-30) > females: 1 (20-30) > _____________________________________________________________________ > 1850 Federal Census > Jefferson County, Indiana > Graham Tp. > page 508/254 > > 431/441 BLAKE, Andrew 32 farmer > Jane 32 > George 8 at school > John L. 6 at school > Virginia 4 > William B. 1 > GUDGEL, David 41 farmer > Amos 16 at school > Mathilda 14 at school > America 10 at school > _______________________________________________________________________ > > 1860 Federal Census > Jefferson County, Indiana > Graham Tp. > page 127 > > 903/899 GAZAWAY, Thomas 78 farmer 5000 5842 VA > Rebecca 58 VA > Nancy 55 IN > Samuel H. 19 farming IN in school > Susan 18 IN in > school > GUDGEL,America 21 domestic IN > > 905/899 GUDGEL, Harvey & family > David 50 IN > invalid > _______________________________________________________________________ > > 1870 Federal Census > Scott County, Indiana > Jennings Tp. > > 607/603 GUDGEL, Amos 36 Dentist 500 IN > Mary 33 Keeping House IN > Hester 14 IN > Alice 8 IN > David 6 IN > David 60 IN > TROUTMAN, Jim 8 IN > _______________________________________________________________________ > > 1880 Federal Census > Marion County, Indiana > Center Tp., > 205 West Ohio, Indianapolis > e.d.# 119, sheet # 63, line 23 > > GUDGEL, Amos head 46 IN > Alice A. dau 18 IN > Elsworth son 16 IN > Maggie dau 7 IN > David father 70 IN > TROUTMAN, Nancy niece 24 IN > > vi. Preston Gudgel, born Abt. 1812 in IN; died Abt. > 1875; married America Ursilla P. Blake 8 January 1834 in Jefferson Co., > IN40,41; born Abt. 1812 in VA. > > Notes for Preston Gudgel: > 1850 Federal Census > Graham Township > Jefferson County, Indiana > page 251 > > 434 GUDGELL, Preston 38 Farmer IN > Ersilla 38 IN > Lewis 15 IN > Sarha 10 IN > Alex 8 IN > Mary 8/12 IN > _______________________________________________________________________ > > http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ > 11/16/98 > > Bureau of Land Management > Eastern States, General Land Office > > Patentee Name Signature Date Document NR. Accession NR. > > GUDGEL, Preston 4/10/1843 16610 IN2810__.065 > 8/2/1838 9163 > IN2660__.119 > > vii. unknown Gudgel, born Abt. 1814. > viii. John Gudgel, born Abt. 1816 in IN; died Aft. 1880; > married Mary Green 5 November 1840 in Scott Co., IN42,43; born Abt. 1818 > in IN. > > Notes for John Gudgel: > 1840 Federal Census > Scott County, Indiana > page 471 > > GUDGILL, John males: 2 (15-20) > females: 1 (20-30), 1 (40-50) > _______________________________________________________________________ > > 1850 Federal Census > Jefferson County,Indiana > Graham Tp., > page 501 > > 378/388 GUDGELL, John 34 Farmer 300(Real Estate) IN > Mary 32 IN > Shelby C. 8 IN > America 5 IN > Emmanetra 3 IN > Sarah A. 11/12 IN > Taken 11 October 1850 > _______________________________________________________________________ > > 1860 Federal Census > Jefferson County, Indiana > Graham Tp., > page 127/643 > > 908/904 GREEN, Abram 67 Wheelright 250 140 PA > Nancy 54 VA > 909/905 GUDGEL, John, Sr. 44 Farmer IN > Mary 41 IN > Shelby G. 18 in school IN > America 15 in school IN > Emaretta 13 in school IN > Jane 9 in school IN > Charles H. 7 in school IN > Emily 5 in school IN > Mary 3 IN > Theresa 1 IN > Taken 30 July 1860 > _______________________________________________________________________ > > 1880 Federal Census > Jennings County, Indiana > Spencer Tp., > page 7 > > 66/67 GUDGEL, Mary 62 Keeps House IN VA OH > Emma 25 at Home IN IN IN > Risa 21 at Home IN IN IN > James 19 working on farm IN IN IN > > Taken 4 June 1880 > > ix. Jane Gudgel, born Abt. 1818 in IN; died Aft. 1880; > married Andrew W. Blake 25 September 1839 in Jefferson Co., IN44; born > Abt. 1818 in IN. > > Notes for Andrew W. Blake: > 1850 Federal Census > Jefferson County, Indiana > Graham Tp. > page 508/254 > > 431/441 BLAKE, Andrew 32 farmer IN > Jane 32 IN > George 8 at school IN > John L. 6 at school IN > Virginia 4 IN > William B. 1 IN > GUDGEL, David 41 farmer > Amos 16 at school > Mathilda 14 at school > America 10 at school > __________________________________________________________________________ > 1860 Federal Census > Jefferson County, Indiana > Graham Tp. > > 875 BLAKE, Andrew 41 IN > Jane 41 IN > George 17 IL > John L. 16 IN > Virginia B. 14 IN > William B. 11 > Thomas B. 9 > Selah 6 > Zantippa 2 > ____________________________________________________________________________ > 1870 Federal Census > Jefferson County, Indiana > Graham Tp. > page 23 > > BLAKE, Andrew 52 > Jane 52 > George 27 IN > John L. 25 IL > Virginia 24 > Wm. Butler 22 IN > Thomas B. 19 > Celia 15 > xantippa 12 > > > x. Jacob Gudgel, born Abt. 1819 in IN45; died 10 > January 1873 in Barnard, Linn Co., KS46; married Margaret Stewart 30 > September 1840 in Jefferson Co., IN47,48; born 27 November 1819 in > Jefferson Co., IN49,50; died 7 February 1913 in LaCygne, Linn Co., KS. > > Notes for Jacob Gudgel: > 1850 Federal Census > Jefferson County, Indiana > Graham Tp. > page 507/254 > > GUDGELL, Jacob 31 farmer 2500 IN > Margaret 30 IN > Joseph 7 IN > William 4 IN > Missouri C. 1 IN > STEWART, Elizabeth 17 IN > William 13 IN > _______________________________________________________________________ > 3 April 1854 Jacob Gudgel elected Constable of Graham Tp., Jefferson > Co., IN > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > 1860 Federal Census > Pike County, Illinois > Kinderhook Tp., > page 38 > > 96/? JUDGLE, Jacob 42 IN > Margaret 41 IN > Joseph 16 IN > William D.? 14 IN > Miriam? 11 IN > David 9 IN > Mary 6 IN > Melanie? 4 IN > Richard 1 IL > _______________________________________________________________________ > > 1870 Federal Census > Linn Co., Kansas > Valley Tp., P.O. Jackson > > 160/146 GUDGEL, Jacob 52 Farmer IN > Margaret 51 Keeping House IN > David 18 IN > Mary 16 IN > Melissee 13 IN > Richard 10 IL > William 8 IL > John 7 IL > FERGUSON, John 38 Carpenter KY > taken 22 July 1870 > > **************************************************************************** ***History > of Kansas > by A.T. Anderson > 1880 > > LINN COUNTY > page 1416 > > Barnard is the trading post station, and nearly three miles > distant toward the northwest. It is situated on "Hensley's Point;" the > town-site eight acres, was purchased by J.B. Grinnell, of Arthur Barnard. > Mr. Grinnell had a survey made, and held a sale of lots in the fall of > 1869. The first building erected in the town was built for a store and > grocery by John V. Leabo, who was appointed first Postmaster in the same > year. . . the first deaths those of Jacob and Richard Gudgel, father and > son, which occurred at almost the same time, in 1872. > > **************************************************************************** * > 1900 Federal Census Soundex > Bourbon Co., KS > Fort Scott, 808 Hill St. > v.4, ed 36, sheet 3, line 34 > > GUDGEL, Margaret 81 b. Nov.1819 IN > mother-in-law of W.A. Johnson. > > More About Jacob Gudgel: > Burial: Trading Post Cemetery, Barnard, Linn Co., KS > > Notes for Margaret Stewart: > Obituary of Margaret STEWART GUDGEL as printed in the LaCygne Weekly, Linn > Co., KS, February 14, 1913. > > A WONDERFUL LIFE ENDED > > Margaret STEWART was born in Jefferson Co., IN, Nov. 27, 1819 and died in > LaCygne, Kansas Feb. 7, 1913. On Sept. 30, 1840 she was married to Jacob > GUDGEL. To this union 8 children were born, 5 boys and 3 girls, 5 of whom > survive her. > > She moved to Kansas with her husband in 1866. At the age of 14 she united > with the Methodist Espiscopal church and lived a consistant Christian life > for 80 years. Mother GUDGEL was a widow for 40 years, her husband having > died in 1873. > > When we think over this remarkable life we can but marvel at the wonderful > changes she has seen take place. She has seen her church grow from a mere > handful of members into a connection of millions. She has seen colleges > and universities spring up all over this western country. She was two > years of > age when the Great Commonwealth of Missouri was admitted to the Union. > She was the mother of a family when the State of Kansas was a territory. > Kansas City was a village when she was a grown woman. She has seen > civilization change from the crude to the conveniences of today. When she > was a young lady they did not even possess the common match nor oil lamp, > neither did she know until maturity the conveniences of the cook stove and > the modern inventions were not even thought of. She was a mother and > furnished sons to fight for the Union during the War of the Rebellion. > During all of the > troublous times she has kept the faith. She was a woman grown when the > false prophesies of the Millerites predicted the end of the world. She > saw that bauble rise and burst and during all the frenzied fanatical time > she did not wander off after strange doctrines nor heed the teachings of > false > teachers. She could say with the Apostle Paul, "I have fought a good > fight, I have finished my course. I have kept the Faith." > > Funeral services were held at the home of her daughter, Mrs. Mary HALMOND, > with whom she made her home, at 10:00 a.m. Saturday conducted by Rev. J.R. > Hoopingarner, pastor of the M.E. Church. The remains were taken to > Trading Post where they were tenderly laid to rest in the cemetery at that > place. > > The relatives who attended the funeral were Joe GUDGEL of Pittsburg, W.A. > JOHNSON of Ft. Scott, and Mrs. C.W. ROSS and son of Kansas City. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------- > CARD OF THANKS > We wish to thank our many friends and neighbors for their kindness and > sympathy during the death of our beloved mother; also for the beautiful > floral offerings. > Mrs. Mary HALMOND > Mrs. W.A. JOHNSON > Mrs. Ben MITZEL > Mr. Joe GUDGEL > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- > > More About Margaret Stewart: > Burial: Trading Post Cemetery, Barnard, Linn Co., KS > > xi. unknown Gudgel, born Abt. 1820. > xii. Harvey Gudgel, born 23 April 1823 in IN51; died 26 > November 1885 in Jefferson Co., IN51; married Frances White 31 July 1844 > in Jefferson Co., IN52; born 9 January 1825 in MD53,54,55; died 21 > September 190055. > > Notes for Harvey Gudgel: > 1850 Federal Census > Jefferson County, Indiana > Graham Twp. > page 507 > > 431 GUDGELL, Harvey 25 farmer IN > Francis 24 MD > Wm. A. 2 IN > Mary A. 1 IN > John 12 IN > _______________________________________________________________________ > > 1860 Federal Census > Jefferson County, Indiana > Graham Twp. > page 127/643 > > 905/901 GUDGEL, Harvey 37 farmer 1200 375 IN > Francis 34 MD > William A. 12 at school IN > Mary A. 10 at school > IN > Andrew J. 8 at school IN > Hannah 6 at school IN > John R. 4 IN > David 50 Invalid IN > Taken 30 July 1860 > _______________________________________________________________________ > > 1870 Federal Census > Jefferson County, Indiana > Graham Twp. > page 9 > > GUDGELL, Harvey 46 farmer IN > Frances 45 Keeps House MD > William. A. 23 IN > Mary Ann 21 IN > Andrew J. 19 IN > Hannah 17 IN > John R. 15 IN > _______________________________________________________________________ > > 1880 Federal Census > Jefferson County, Indiana > Graham Twp. > page 16 > > 161/163 GUDGELL, Harvey 47 head farmer IN KY KY > Frances 56 wife Keeps House IN PA > PA > Mary A. 31 dau. IN IN IN > Hannah 24 dau. IN IN IN > Andrew 28 son IN IN IN > Taken 18 June 1880 > all three children are single. > > More About Harvey Gudgel: > Burial: Bethany Baptist Church Cem., Jefferson Co., IN > > Notes for Frances White: > 1900 Federal Census > Jefferson County, Indiana > Graham Twp. > sd. #4, ed. #82 > page 28, sheet 4. > > 82/85 GUDGEL, Fanny Jan. 1835 75 widow MD Eng. Eng. > Hannah dau. Dec. 1853 46 single IN MD IN > Fanny's occupation is listed as Farmer. She owns a farm free of > Mortgage. > (Note: Fanny was the mother of 6 children, 2 of whom are living) > Taken 5 June, 1990 > > > xiii. Calvin Gudgel, born Abt. 1824 in IN; died Aft. > 1860; married Catherine Mayfield 7 January 1847 in Jefferson Co., IN56; > born Abt. 1825 in NY. > > Notes for Calvin Gudgel: > 1850 Federal Census > Graham Township > Jefferson County, Indiana > page507/ 254 > > 425/435 GUDGELL, Calvin 26 IN > Catherine 25 IN > Lucy 2 IN > Thomas H. 1 IN > _______________________________________________________________________ > > 1860 Federal Census > Graham Township > Jefferson County, Indiana > page 126 > > 900/896 GUDGEL, Calvin 39 Farmer 900/215 IN > Catherine 34 MD > Elizabeth J. 12 in school IN > Thomas H. 11 in school IN > Augusta 9 in school IN > Martha C. 1 in school IN > > xiv. Wesley D. Gudgel, born 2 June 1827 in IN57; died > 18 January 1902 in Jefferson Co., IN57,58; married Matilda Stewart 8 > January 1852 in Jefferson Co., IN59; born 6 March 1835 in IN60; died 26 > August 1908 in Jefferson Co., IN60. > > Notes for Wesley D. Gudgel: > 1850 Federal Census > Graham Township > Jefferson County, Indiana > page 251 > > 432 GUDGELL, John 74 Farmer PA > Jane 65 VA > Wesly 22 IN > > > More About Wesley D. Gudgel: > Burial: Pisgah Cem., Jefferson Co., IN > > xv. unknown Gudgel, born Abt. 1830. > > > Endnotes > > 1. Declaration for Pension - Calvin Gudgel. > 2. Texas State Department of Health Certificate of Death, Date of Birth - > Jan. 10, 1844, Illinois. > 3. 1900 Federal Census, Chocktaw Nation, OK, v.8, e.d. 145, sheet 20, > line 5. > 4. Drop Report---Pensioner, Pottsboro, Tex Calvin Gudgel, Certificate # > 1012185 Act of July 3, 1926, The name of the above-named pensioner who > was last paid at the rate of $65 per month to Feb. 4, 1930, has this day > been dropped from the roll because of death Feb. 17, 1930. > 5. Texas State Department of Health Certificate of Death, Grayson Co., > TX, Date of Death - Feb. 17, 1930, Grayson Co., TX. > 6. Declaration for Pension - Calvin Gudgel. > 7. 1900 Federal Census, Chocktaw Nation, OK, v. 8, e.d. 145, sheet 20, > line 5. > 8. Drop Report---Pensioner, Pottsboro, Tex Mary Gudgel, Certificate # > 1662314, The name of the above-described pensioner who was last paid at > the rate of $40 per month to July 4, 1931 has this day been dropped from > the roll because of DEATH July 6, 1931. > 9. Declaration for Pension - Calvin Gudgel. > 10. Jefferson County Marriage Records, 1811-1873, Madison, IN. > 11. 1850 Fed Mortality Census - Hancock Co., IL > 12. State of Illinois - Certificate of Death, Rebecca J. Petersonborn > Sept 14, 1834 in Indiana. > 13. Recorded - State of Illinois, Dept. of Public Health No. 33864 > 14. Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, 1763-1900, "Electronic." > 15. Marriage Record, Adams Co., IL Marriage v.3, pg. 108, William S. > Peterson and Mrs. Rebecca J. Jessup 25 November 1877by John Clingsmith > MG. > 16. Death Certificate - York Co., NE #8526 > 17. Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, 1763-1900, "Electronic." > 18. Cemetery Records of Blue Ridge Cemetery, Polk Co., NE > 19. Cemetery Records-Blue Ridge Cemetery-Polk Co., Nebraska. > 20. 1850 Federal Census, Hancock Co., IL, page 421, lines 15-24. > 21. 1880 Federal Census - Precinct #3, Grayson Co., TX > 22. Pike County, Illinois Marriages, "Electronic." > 23. 1880 Federal Census - Precinct #3, Grayson Co., TX > 24. Woodford Co., Ky Land Trial Bill dated September 19, 1819. > 25. Woodford Co., Ky - Deeds, Book D, page 93. > 26. Jefferson County Probate Records, Madison, INBook I (1850-1852), page > 591. > 27. Kentucky Marriage Records, Woodford County Court House, Versailles, > KY. > 28. 1860 Fed. Mortality Schedule > 29. Jefferson County Marriage Records, 1811-1873, Madison, IN. > 30. Wiggam Cemetery, Graham Tp., Jefferson Co., IN. > 31. 1850 Fed Cen - Hancock Co., IL, page 313 > 32. Recorded - Jefferson County, IN Court House > 33. INDIANA STATE LIBRARY - Genealogy Division, Database to an Index of > Indiana Marriages Through 1850, (March, 1999), "Electronic." > 34. 1850 Fed Cen - Hancock Co., IL, page 313 > 35. Jefferson County Marriage Records, 1811-1873, Madison, IN. > 36. INDIANA STATE LIBRARY - Genealogy Division, Database to an Index of > Indiana Marriages Through 1850, (March, 1999), "Electronic." > 37. 1850 Fed Cen - New Washington, Clark Co., IN pg. 66 > 38. Jefferson County Marriage Records, 1811-1873, Madison, IN. > 39. Pisgah Cemetery, Jefferson Co., IN. > 40. Jefferson County Marriage Records, 1811-1873, Madison, IN. > 41. INDIANA STATE LIBRARY - Genealogy Division, Database to an Index of > Indiana Marriages Through 1850, (March, 1999), "Electronic." > 42. Scott County, IN Marriage Records, IN. > 43. INDIANA STATE LIBRARY - Genealogy Division, Database to an Index of > Indiana Marriages Through 1850, (March, 1999), "Electronic." > 44. Jefferson County Marriage Records, 1811-1873, Madison, IN. > 45. 1850 Federal Census, Graham Tp., Jefferson Co., IN, page 507/254. > 46. A.T. Anderson, The History of Kansas, (1880), LINN COUNTY, page > 1416. > 47. Jefferson County Marriage Records, 1811-1873, Madison, IN. > 48. INDIANA STATE LIBRARY - Genealogy Division, Database to an Index of > Indiana Marriages Through 1850, (March, 1999), "Electronic." > 49. 1850 Federal Census, Graham Tp., Jefferson Co., IN, page 507/254. > 50. 1900 Federal Census Soundex, Fort Scott, 808 Hill St., Bourbon Co., > KY, v.4, ed 36, sheet 3, line 34. > 51. Bethany Baptist Church Cemetery, Jefferson County, IN. > 52. Jefferson County Marriage Records, 1811-1873, Madison, IN. > 53. 1850 Federal Census, Jefferson County, IN, Graham Twp.. > 54. 1900 Federal Census - Jefferson County, IN, Graham Twp., page 28, > sheet 4. > 55. Bethany Baptist Church Cemetery, Jefferson County, IN. > 56. Jefferson County Marriage Records, 1811-1873, Madison, IN. > 57. Pisgah Cemetery, Jefferson Co., IN. > 58. Jefferson County Health Department - Death Records. > 59. Jefferson County Marriage Records, 1811-1873, Madison, IN. > 60. Pisgah Cemetery, Jefferson Co., IN. > > > From: GudgelDoc@cs.com Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 03:54:24 EDT Subject: Re: Fw: Gudgel Family To: Linda Gudgel Finnell Don, this is Larry Gudgel, I am of the same branch from Calvin. I don't have the records with me at the moment, Am in S. Korea at the moment, but please e mail me back in a couple of weeks. "Linda Gudgel Finnell" wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" > To: "Gudgel List" > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 10:40 PM > Subject: Fw: Gudgel Family > > > > Below is a query I received today.  I have three Calvin GUDGEL's in my > > database. > > > > I.m sure some of your GUDGEL researcher's are more familiar with this line > > than I, but please respond to him direct with a copy to the list so that > we > > can all have the information. > > > > Hope someone can help Don out. > > Thanks, Linda > > > > --- Original Message ----- > > From: "Don Robert Allison" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 10:06 PM > > Subject: Gudgel Family > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Looking for Calvin Gudgel and his family... > > > > > > I have a cousin who father is Lawerance David Gudgel son or adopted son > of > > > Calvin Gudgel from southern Oklahoma and north Grayson County, Texas. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Don Allison > > > > > > > From: GudgelDoc@cs.com Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 03:58:30 EDT Subject: Re: Calvin Gudgel CC: als@gte.net, gudgel-list@eskimo.com Dave, Your records are messed up some where with Calvin. I have the Obit I looked up while in N texas last summer. I will post when I return to the US in a few weeks. The listings of children you have for Calvin is not correct at all. Calvin and Mary are my G-grandparents and I have a clear record of this. Larry Gudgel Gudgeld@aol.com wrote: > > I also have three Calvins, but the one that may fit is a Calvin Gudgel that > died in Grayson Co., TX.  I have very little on his descendants.  The Calvin > I have was the son of Andrew Gudgel and Elizabeth Staples.  The line is "Old" > Andrew Gudgel, >John Gudgel and Jane Harbison, >Andrew Gudgel and Elizabeth > Staples, >Calvin Gudgel and Margaret Bell.  Calvin was born on January 10, > 1846 in Carthage, IL and died February 17, 1930 in Grayson Co., TX. Calvin > and Mary had two children, Oswald and Florence.  If this looks like it may be > the right one, let me know and I will see what else I have. > > Dave Gudgel > > From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: KY Celebrates 250 Years of History today. Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 07:31:26 -0400 For any of you who had family lines who came into KY though the Cumberland Gap you might find this article of interest. Dr. Thomas Walker wasn't the first person of European descent to enter Kentucky, but he was the first to leave a written record. He came through the Cumberland Gap on April 13, 1750 and found a passage through Pine Mountain at the point at which the Cumberland River cuts through. (Note from Linda: If you ever have the opportunity to visit the new Kentucky History Center in Frankfort you should take a tour of the museum. You enter in an area that is constructed to make the visitor appear to be standing at the entrance of the Cumberland Gap into Kentucky. Like a step back in time. It's awesome.) ******************************************** >From the Lexington Herald-Leader Lexington, KY April 15, 2000 KENTUCKY CELEBRATES 250 YEARS OF HISTORY TODAY This week marks the 250th anniversay of the beginning of recorded history-a few words written by Dr. Thomas Walker on the day he passed through the Cumberland Gap. "Walker noted in his journal his sense of the magic and mystery of having arrived at a major dividing line between east and west," Thomas D. Clark, the state historian laureate, writes in a forward of his new book, Dr. Thomas Walker and the Opening of Kentucky. "He stood in the great gap, a gateway in which time would be trampled by literally thousands of land-hungry immigrants in search of the new Eden." The actual date was April 13, 1750, but Gov. Paul Patton has declared today "Opening of Kentucky Day." To mark the anniversary, the Bell County, KY Historical Society has planned a symposium featuring Clark and other historians pondering the signifigance of the event. It runs today from 9 a.m. until noon at Southeast Community College's Middlesboro campus. One thing they will note: if the Cumberland Gap had existed alone, settlement of Kentucky would have been much more difficult. But it lead to the Pineville Narrows, a gap cut through Pine Mountain by the Cumberland River, and was near Cumberland Ford, a shallow area where the river could be crossed. "Those 2 geographical features in alignment made it possible for the pioneers to make their way though," historical society President, Jerry Browning said. "They would have had to take their wagons apart and carry them over the mountains." Browning said the anniversary is a big event for Bell County and all of Kentucky. "Bell County is the only County and Kentucky the only state west of the Allegheny Mountains that are able to say we have a 250th anniversary," Browning said. From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Old Andrew's wives and children....... Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:42:03 -0400 Hi Chuck- You have asked the most desired question of all Andrew GUDGEL researchers I believe! I would also like to know the answer. Without documented dates of old Andrew's marriages I don't know that any of us can be 100% sure of an answer. I question your statement of his having 4 children by Elizabeth "Betsy" PAYN(E). I only knew of three: Nancy, Hetty and William. Who is the 4th and how did you arrive at that? Maybe I have missed something. I have seen other researchers list some of Old Andrew's children by a certain wife but I'm not sure how they arrived at that fact. If anyone has any documentation to share I'd love to know about it. We seem to be at a "standstill" with our research on Old Andrew in his early PA days and even back to Germany. BTW, I have recently subscribed to a publication called "Mennonite Family History" out of PA . It looked pretty good so I thought I'd give it a try. Will let you know how that pans out. Haven't received my first copy yet. Linda From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: On this Easter Morning..... Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 09:30:10 -0400 As I leave for church this morning I wish you all a joyous Easter and hope you enjoy your day with family and/or friends. If you are driving today please have a safe trip. Linda from Kentucky From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Fw: Country Church Revival Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:56:01 -0400 Hi Folks- This came across one of my lists this week and it was too good not to pass on to you. Perhaps it will bring back some memories to some of us older ones.....but I can honestly say I have never witnessed a baptizing in the outdoors....so maybe I'm not so old after all : ) But I do remember those summer revivals that lasted at least a week. And the preacher would "take supper" with us at times. My father was a Deacon and my mother taught Sunday School in our small country church. And we were at church "twice on Sunday and once in the middle of the week" ...as that old song goes. And I also remember going to sunrise services on Easter morning. And those stiff Easter dresses and crinolins, lacy socks and heaven forbid,.....those hats with the elastic that went under your chin to keep them from falling off. Oh, and the gloves....always white gloves. I have to tell this short story....my mother was fixing Sunday dinner for the preacher and she was making homemade ice cream for dessert (probably making it on Saturday). Well, the recipe called for vanilla flavoring and back then you bought vanilla flavoring in a large bottle. So she reached up in the cabinet and got the bottle, unscrewed the top and preceeded to pour the vanilla into the ice cream mixture. She realized it wasn't vanilla but was rubbing alcohol (not sure why it was in the kitchen cabinet). So she poured out the mixture and began a new batch again. One of the three of us kids told the preacher about "mama putting rubbing alcohol in the ice cream". She did explain that it was a mistake and had been corrected but she said he didn't eat any ice cream for Sunday dinner. Funny how you remember things like that. Hope you enjoy the Country Church Revival below. Linda > Country Church Revival > > By Contributing Editor > Carolyn Buntin Eveland > > If you were brought up in a rural southern Protestant home, then this > story will bring back a lot of memories for you. Perhaps for the > younger generation it might bring to mind happenings told by your > parents or grandparents. > > Revivals were held at one's regular church but a visiting minister did > the preaching. Church wasn't just held on Sunday, Sunday nights and > Wednesday nights during a revival. Revivals continued from Sunday to > Sunday culminating with a baptizing after Church on the last day of > service. > > If the visiting ministers traveled from a distance to conduct the > revival, they were put up at the homes of church members. The minister, > his wife and children were all passed from house to house during the > week or two weeks he was at your church. This was a great hardship on > the pre-teens and teenagers of the household, at least in their minds. > Being on one's best behavior to impress the visitors was an order not a > request! Added to that misery was the almost certain fact that the > child would have to give up his/her own bed to one or two of the > visitors. > > The awful heat of those summer revivals was long remembered. Air > conditioning was a thing of the future and so the congregation > sweltered. Windows and doors were opened while the women of the > church furiously fanned themselves and their sleeping babies with paper > fans. These fans were made from a stiff piece of paper with a painting > on one side and an advertisement of the facility that had provided them, > usually the local funeral home, on the other side. The fan was then > glued or stapled to a flat piece of wood resembling a large popsicle > stick. The men were too proud to fan themselves. They found relief in > stepping outside to "stretch" or "smoke." There they could open their > collar or just mill around in the still, hot air hoping to "stir a > breeze." > > The children were not so lucky. There was no stepping outside for them > while the service was going on. There were no nurseries in those days > and the younger children usually sat with their mothers. There they sat > through the duration of the singin', preachin', altar call and more > singing. Children that squirmed too much got a tiny swat with the fan > across the knuckles or knees. So it wasn't uncommon at all to see > children in service with dolls, toy cars, coloring books, etc. in an > attempt to keep them quiet during the service. > > Teenagers usually sat in the back of the church, boys with boys and > girls with girls. If a boy and girl were "courtin" they sat together. > I dare say not much of the preacher's ardent sermon was heard by them. > The "courters" passed the time away writing notes on pieces of paper > tucked inside their Bibles before arriving at the church. Glaring at > the back row offenders, mothers would stop excessive whispering by > giving the culprits a steel-eyed, > you-better-straighten-up-right-now-and-I-MEAN-IT look! That usually > worked but in some stubborn cases, the mother would leave her pew and > reseat herself beside the guilty party. > > > This was the ultimate embarrassment for a teen to endure, but it worked! > Needless to say the teenager was still in hot water when the family > returned home. > > The preacher was something to behold. If he were any "good" at all, he > stood behind the pulpit just long enough to turn the pages of his Bible > before striding from one side of the podium to the other. He pranced, > stomped, and embellished his preaching with great waving of the arms > along the front of the platform. His passionate pleas of "Can You Say > Amen, Brothers"! were met with chorused "Amen's" and "Preach it > Brother!" from the men of the church. If he "was worth his salt", his > clothes would be soaked with perspiration; hair wet from his exertions > while the sweat streamed into his eyes. Near the end of the preachin', > his voice would sound coarse as a tree frog and it was acknowledged then > and there, with nods of mutual satisfaction, that he had "give his all" > to his calling. > > Finally came the time for the altar call. An Altar Call came at the end > of the service and the preacher always left the podium and stood right > in front of the pews. The congregation was told to open their hymnals > to a certain song. Usually hymns like "Just As I Am" or "Amazing Grace" > was sung in hopes of calling the wayward to repent. The Altar Call was > then given to the sinners of the church who hadn't "accepted Christ" > and to the backsliders who had returned to their old ways of "sin and > degradation." The call was made to come forward and repent. A person > who wished to "be saved" would come forward and shake hands with the > preacher. He/she was then gathered up by men of the church, usually > deacons or elders, and taken aside for prayer. Salvation came by > confessing that they were living in sin, then asking God to forgive > those sins and welcoming Jesus into their hearts. > > The end of the Revival was concluded with a big baptizin'. This took > place usually after church on the last Sunday of the revival. The > congregation would leave the church, assembling at a nearby river or > swimming hole. There the new Christians would be baptized with complete > submersion to wash away their sins. Great thanksgivings came at the > conclusion of these events. Songs were sung and prayers said on bender > knees as the people came together giving praise to God. > > I remember those Revivals with the warmest of childhood memories. > Somehow it just seems that life was a lot simpler then. It would be > good to step back in time for just a little while, becoming a child > again just for a brief moment. Standing wide eyed and full of wonder, > I would nestle into those summer nights of long ago when the preachin' > was good, the singin' was fine and the minister stayed at someone else's > house! > > > For more interesting stories of Hopkins County Lore please visit us at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyhopkin/lore > Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:46:54 -0400 From: Smitty Crossfield Subject: (no subject) Hi, Not only do I remember those baptisms I was one on them. It was a lake and I dang near froze.Don't know if that saved me or just lef t a memory. Must not have been too strong cause I later became a Presbyterian. Smitty Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 14:18:43 -0500 From: Karla Subject: Elmer Gudgel - Obit Hi all, My Mother-in-law, Betty Gudgel Mahlberg found this obituary among some of her family papers. She copied it and sent it to me. I thought it would be of interest to the list. I apologize for any misspellings, I tried to correct all the ones I found. Karla Mahlberg ELMER GUDGEL William Elmer Gudgel, 84 died at 8:2 a.m. Sunday, March 8, 1981 in the emergency room of St. Elizabeth's Hospital in Hannibal. He was born November 4,1896 a son of David and Ellen Smith Gudgel. He married Lucy Wagy July, 1920, in Hannibal, She survives. Mr. Gudgel was a member of the Hull Methodist Church. He was the last surviving graduate of Hull's four year high school. He was interested in politics and served many years as councilman on the Hull town board. Mr. Gudgel was supervisor of the town water system and parks and was active in township government, having been elected as assessor for 32 years. He served many years as Pike County Committeeman. He was employed as state grain inspector at Bunge Corporation in East Hannibal for seven years, retiring last fall at the age of 83. Mr. Gudgel was a member of the Hull Lions Club. Surviving besides his wife are two sons, Marvin L. of Hull and Maurice E. of Keoku, Ia., five grandchildren and six great-grandchildren. He was preceded in death by one brother and four sisters. Funeral services were held today (Wednesday), Mar 1 at 2 pm at the Hull United Methodist Church with Rev. Kay Harm officiating. Burial was in Akers Chapel Cemetery near Hull. Clark Funeral Home of Hannibal was in charge of arrangements Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 11:32:54 -0800 From: Dianne Holmes Subject: Re: www.alltheweb.com for Gudgel I should be out spring yard cleaning but instead I just searched the above search engine and found my self at the top of the list when I put in the search words Gudgel Alaska. If you just put in Gudgel you will get 1292 listings. I found one fellow named Dan Gudgel who is writer and poet. Does anyone know him? How many other interesting Gudgels are out there? Maybe you all find these many hits by using other search engines, I don't know as I never tried. But it was fund and a bit frightening to find one self at the top of at least one web search. Dianne Gudgel -Holmes Anchorage From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Unidentified GUDGEL found Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 20:44:16 -0400 Hi Everybody- I found this on the net and wondered if anyone knows who/where this family belongs? Clyde K. Smith/Irene Gudgel Husband: Clyde K. Smith Born: 31 MAY 1871 at: Oskaloosa, Iowa Married: 18 JAN 1923 at: Marion, Iowa Died: at: Father:C. M. Smith Mother:Mary Pierson Ketner Other Spouses: Mollie Carney NOTES Wife: Irene Gudgel Born: 23 OCT 1901 at: Adel, Iowa Died: at http://www.booneinfo.com/tallman/fam04264.htm Also- I'd like for each of you to send a message to the List as to who your biggest "brick wall" is in your research. Who knows, maybe someone will have your answer. I've been too busy lately to research much but hope to get back to it soon. Anyone got any summer research trips in the making? Hope to hear from each and every one of you! Linda From: Gudgeld@aol.com Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:06:20 EDT Subject: Brick Walls Linda Finnell suggested that we post our brick walls on the page to see if someone can help. I sure hope so. I have spent three weeks in Illinois and Indiana trying to find some indication of who her parents were, with no luck. The following is a very brief description of what I have. I have information on about 600 Johnsons from the areas in Illinois and Indiana near where she lived. I have entered all that data in a data base and sorted it every way I can think of and cannot find anyone that seems to be her parents. My gg grandmother was Sarah Ann (JOHNSON) GUDGEL. She was born in Indiana in 1829 or 1830 according to U.S. Census records. Ancestral files at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City list her birth date as December 08, 1829 and birthplace as Owensville, Gibson County, Indiana. Her tombstone at the West Cemetery in Athens, Illinois gives a birth date of December 08, 1829. She was married to Henry T. GUDGEL on February 19, 1846 in Gibson County, Indiana by Rev. John Kirkpatrick. Family lore indicates that Henry and Sarah moved to Athens, Menard County, Illinois in September of 1850 to be near Sarah’s parents. Their first two children were born in Gibson County, Indiana in October 1847 and July 1850 and their third child was born in Athens, Illinois in November 1852. Therefore, they definitely moved sometime between July 1850 and November 1852. They had three additional children prior to Henry T. Gudgel’s enlistment in the Union Army in August 1861. Henry T.GUDGEL died of Typhoid Fever in November 1861 at Mound City, Illinois. I am looking for any information on the ancestors of Sarah Ann (JOHNSON) GUDGEL starting with her parents whom I have not been able to identify. Sarah stated in census records that her father was born in Indiana and her mother was born in Kentucky. Any information or assistance that anyone may be able to provide will be greatly appreciated. HELP!!! When you solve this one for me, I will let you work on my other brick wall, which seems even more difficult. That is to find the father of Phillip S. Gudgel. He was my great grandfather and was the illegitimate son of Sarah Ann (JOHNSON) GUDGEL. He was born in 1865 in Athens, Illinois. I have a name of the man that I think was his father, but can find no documentation to prove it. Anyway, that can be the next project Dave Gudgel From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Brick Walls Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 22:39:12 -0400 Dave- I can't help with Sarah JOHNSON GUDGEL. Wish I could. I know there are others who are working on that family also. I know that some of the Gibson Co., IN and Bath Co., KY GUDGEL's went to Menard Co., IL too. I have a BUSBY family from Bath Co., KY that marr. a GUDGEL and went to Menard Co., IL. Isn't that just over the Indiana/Illinois border? Diane- I would also love to know about Daniel GUDGEL. He's has been so elusive for me too. He has to be one of ours because he came to KY about the same time as old Andrew and was here in Woodford Co., KY at the same time. As far as the mention of Andrew, Jr. being born in Baltimore, Maryland....I think that either they were enroute to western PA when he was born or that was part of the descrepancy over the Mason Dixon line and hwere it actually fell. Just my 2 cents for what it's worth. Come on guys, lets get some debates going here. Sometimes it's good to discuss our theories and we can all learn from each other. We just have to "chew" on these ideas a while I guess . Anybody win any money on the Kentucky Derby? I think my horse is still running. Don't even know where it finished but it's a sure bet is wasn't in the money. Linda From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: New contact on Daniel GUDGEL(L) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 17:50:09 -0400 I received this today from a query I had left some time ago on the = Harlan Family page. Maybe someone will find this of use before I can = get time to respond. If so, please keep our list informed of any = findings. Thanks, Linda ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bob & Esther Wells=20 To: lfinnell@lex.infi.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 1:20 PM Subject: Gudgell or Gause Linda, I just found your query on the Harlan web site. It may have been = answered by now. But I found in my database I have a RACHEL GAUSE and = DANIEL GUDGELL, who were married in Fayette Co., PA. I have listed, one = son, STEPHEN GUDGELL b. 4 Dec. 1787 in Pennsylvania; d. 14 Sept 1870 in = Tiskilwa, Bureau Co., IL.; m. Sarah Phillips 7 Sep 1808 in Brownsville, = Fayette Co., PA.; she was b. 31 March 1786 in Chester Co., PA.; d. 11 = May 1879 in Tiskilwa, Bureau Co., IL. she was the daughter of EVAN = PHILLIPS and MARY HARLAN. They had three children: 1. MARY P. GUDGELL; b. 20 Jan 1810 in Brownsville, Fayette Co., = PA.; m. Jacob Bowman 2. JAMES HARLAN GUDGELL; b. 15 Nov 1811 in Brownsville, Fayette = Co., PA.; d. 17 June 1899 in Adel, Dallas Co., IA. m. Elizabeth Horner = 12 April 1832. 3. THORNTON B. GUDGELL; b. 20 Aug 1819 in Jefferson Co., IN.; d. 22 = July 1876 in Philadelphia, PA.; m. Sarah A. Hughes. James had seven children and Thornton had one child. If you want more = information; you can contact me at the above email address. Esther Harlan Wells Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 18:07:08 -0700 To: Linda Gudgel Finnell Subject: Re: Unidentified GUDGEL found I suspect that Irene is from the mysterious Daniel line. Generation 1:Daniel Generation 2:Stephen G. Gudgel (b.4 December 1787 Fayette Co., PA d.14 September 1870 Tiskilwa, Bureau Co., IL) m.Sarah Phillips 7 September 1808 in Fayette Co., PA Generation 3:James Harlan Gudgel (b.15 November 1811 Brownsville, Fayette Co., PA, d.17 June 1899 Adel, Iowa) m.Elizabeth Horner 12 April 1832 in Jefferson Co., IN. Generation 4: James F. Gudgel (September 1851 in IL)m. Ann ? Generation 5: ? Generation 6: Irene???? What do you think? I corresponded with Helen Folk of Adel Iowa years ago that descends from this line Mia On Mon, 8 May 2000, Linda Gudgel Finnell wrote : > Hi Everybody- > > I found this on the net and wondered if anyone knows who/where this family > belongs? > > Clyde K. Smith/Irene Gudgel > Husband: Clyde K. Smith Born: 31 MAY 1871 at: Oskaloosa, Iowa Married: 18 > JAN 1923 at: Marion, Iowa Died: at: Father:C. M. Smith Mother:Mary Pierson > Ketner Other Spouses: Mollie Carney NOTES Wife: Irene Gudgel Born: 23 OCT > 1901 at: Adel, Iowa Died: at > http://www.booneinfo.com/tallman/fam04264.htm > > > Also- I'd like for each of you to send a message to the List as to who your > biggest "brick wall" is in your research. Who knows, maybe someone will > have your answer. > > I've been too busy lately to research much but hope to get back to it soon. > Anyone got any summer research trips in the making? > > Hope to hear from each and every one of you! > Linda > > Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 21:19:07 -0800 From: Dianne Holmes To: Linda Gudgel Finnell Subject: Re: New contact on Daniel GUDGEL(L) Linda and all, The information on Daniel Gudgel that the Wells family sent you is not new. This is pretty much all we know about Dan except he and his wife left PA after all the rest of the Gudgel did and went to (eventually) Ill where their kids and grandkids went. I think they didn't leave PA until after 1810 if I am not mistaken. I have this information in a file and if anyone wishes to resurrect the research on Old Dan, we sure would appreciate it. I believe there is some evidence that Daniel was in KY before 1800 and then must have returned to PA. Linda, aren't there some tax rolls for KY showing Daniel for a few yrs? Dianne Gudgel-Holmes Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 22:13:04 -0700 From: Ralph Johnson Subject: Mourning in KY You heard didn't you that the whiskey distillery burned down in Lawrenceburg Ky? Let em drink beer. -- Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 07:29:08 -0700 From: "Wm. E Gudgel" Subject: Unidentified subject! Happy Mothers Day to all of our GUDGEL Mothers, Whether you were born a GUDGEL or married into the GUDGEL family ... I hope all of our GUDGEL Mothers have a very wonderful day today. Bill Gudgel From: NancykDing@aol.com Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 13:14:39 EDT Subject: Gottschalk This obituary was in the Des Moines, IA Register March 24, 2000 I thought you might be interested.......Nancy Dingman i MARVIN GOTTSCHALK Boone, IA Marvin Gottschalk, 73, of Boone died of a respiratory ailment Wednesday at Boone County Hospital there. Services will be at 10:30 a.m. today at Trinity Lutheran Church in Boone, of which he was a member. Burial, with military rites, will be noon Saturday at Lowden Lutheran Cemetery in Lowden. Mr. Gottschalk was born in Lowden and had lived in Waukegan, IL., and Rapid City, SD., before moving to Boone. He was a machine operator and assistant roadmaster with Chicago & North Western Railway and a track inspector with the Iowa Department of Transportation before retiring. He was a Navy veteran of World War ll and a member of American Legion and Lowden Historical Society. He is survived by his wife, Susan; a daughter Laurie Gottschalk of Boone; a stepson, Lonny Cabelka, and a stepdaughter, Lori Jennings, both of Chandler, AZ; three sisters, Irene Derynck and Evelyn Derynck, both of Clarence, and Shirley Hansen of Cedar Rapids; a brother, Herman of Clarence; and a step-grandchild. Friends may call from 8:30 a.m. to the time of service today at the church and from 10 to 11:30 a.m. Saturday at Trinity Lutheran Church in Lowden. Memorial contributions may be made to Trinity Lutheran Church Radio Broadcasting Program in Boone. Stark-Welin Funeral Directors in Boone is handling arrangements. From: GudgelDoc@cs.com Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 00:37:14 EDT Subject: Old Obits Well I promised these a long time ago so here they are. They are from my trip to Sherman Texas last summer. I am just now getting around to looking at them again. I have been kinda busy. Nice trip, but am back from Korea and glad to be home. Calvin is a brother to Francis Marion Gudgel (Nebraska) and Lawrence Gudgel Obit for Calvin Gudgel: Monday 2-17-1930, Pg 10, Column 4 Sherman Daily Democrat (Texas) "Denison-Calvin Gudgel, 86 years old, Civil War Veteran and resident of Pottsboro vicinity for the last 24 years, died at his home Monday morning at 3:45 o'clock after an illness of the last three weeks. He was born in Illinois, Jan. 10, 1844. During the civil war, Mr. Gudgel served with the federal forces. On Dec, 26, 1872, he married to Miss Mary Bell at Hannibal, Mo. Mr. Gudgel was a retired farmer and a member of the Methodist Church. Surviving are his widow: four daughters, Mrs. Annie Martin and Mrs. Minnie Clement, Pottsboro, Mrs. Ottie Brounen of Gracemont, Okla., Mrs. Callie Davis of Plainview (Texas), and three sons, Lawrence Gudgel of San Angelo (Texas), Louis Gudgel of Gracemont, Okla., Ed Gudgel. funeral Services will be held at the Methodist Church at Pottsboro Tuesday afternoon at 1 o'clock. Interment will be in the Georgetown cemetery." Obit for Calvin's wife: Sherman Daily Democrat Tuesday July 7, 1931 " Mrs. Mary Gudgel Potsboro-Mrs. Mary Gudgel, 77 died at her home Monday at 10:40 P.M. after an illness of several months. Funeral services were to be held Tuesday at 2 P.M., at the Methodist Church, conducted by her pastor, the Rev. J. W. Griffin of Sadler with interment in Georgetown cemetery. Mrs. Gudgel was born in Pry County, Ills., in 1854, and married Calvin Gudgel in 1872, who died 16 months ago. To this union were born four sons, two of whom died in young manhood; the others are Louis Gudgel, Gracemont, Okla., and Lawrence Gudgel, San Angelo; four daughters, Mrs. Annie Martin and Mrs. Minnie Clement, Pottsboro; Mrs. Ottie Browning, Gracemont, Okla., and Mrs. Callie Davis, Plainview (Texas). Eighteen Grandchildren and eight great grandchildren survive also." (sic: the 2 sons that died early manhood were Ed and Harry) These were very difficult to find obits and a little buried in the old newspaper. In Sherman Texas there is an excellent genealogy room for research. I have some other things to post, but alas it is past midnight here. I hope this helps someone else. Major (Dr.) Larry Gudgel Great-grandson of Calvin Gudgel Calvin Gudgel --Louis Allen Gudgel --Olen Dee Gudgel --Larry Don Gudgel Have a good day. Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 18:39:03 -0800 From: Dianne Holmes To: Linda Gudgel Finnell Subject: Re:Gibson Co, IN cemetary preservation workshop Dear Cousins, The latest Gibson Co Historical Society newsletter notes that there will be a seminar called "Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project" on June 10, 2000. While few of us can attend, it might be nice to find out if this could lead to the Gudgel farm cemetery getting better some much needed care. The registration form says to make the checks out to Princeton Public Library, Genealogy Dept. thus I guess they are involved in the project. The project will cover repair techniques and tips on reading hard-to-read stones. Other sessions will cover cemetery laws, searching old cemetery records, and responsibilities of a Township Trustee (in relation to cemeteries). http://members.sigecom.net/ccaniff/Gibson_PCRP.htm Diane From gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com Thu Jun 8 20:01:48 2000 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx2.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id UAA23073; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000701bfd1bd$7f3272e0$7546fcd1@lindascomputer> From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" To: "Gudgel List" Subject: Fw: Gudgel Genealogy Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 22:42:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0101_01BFD19A.C4208EA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <"NpYlm.0.Le5.It5Gv"@mx2> Resent-From: gudgel-list@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1399 X-Loop: gudgel-list@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0101_01BFD19A.C4208EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guys- I got this email today from this gal looking for her GUDGEL line. I = think this is Karla's line (???). Hope some of you can help her out and = please send a cc: to the list so that we can all share the information. Hope everyone's doing okay. Everything here is fine--just too busy = like everyone else. More later, Linda ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sandra Weir=20 To: Linda Finnell=20 Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 3:12 PM Subject: Gudgel Genealogy Hi Linda, My name is Sandra Weir, and I live west of Danville, Indiana. I have a = cousin in Port Angeles who Married Robert Lewis Gudgel. The family had = some information showing Andrew #1, father of John who was father of = Andrew #2, who was father of Louis Melhouse Gudgel from whom our Robert = is descended. They knew the Gudgels were from Indiana, so I've been = trying to gather information for them. What I found was on the = internet, but would like to know if it is correct. Would love to = correspond with you. We would also like to visit the Gudgel Cemetery this weekend, and take = some pictures for them. Is this cemetery easily accessible, and could = you tell me how to find it? I love genealogy, and am looking forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Sandra Weir rockie@tds.net ------=_NextPart_000_0101_01BFD19A.C4208EA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Guys-
 
I got this email today from this gal = looking for=20 her GUDGEL line.  I think this is Karla's line (???). Hope some of = you can=20 help her out and please send a cc: to the list so that we can all share = the=20 information.
 
Hope everyone's doing okay.  = Everything here=20 is fine--just too  busy like everyone else.
More later,
Linda
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Sandra Weir =
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 = 3:12 PM
Subject: Gudgel Genealogy

Hi Linda,
 
My name is Sandra Weir, and I live west = of=20 Danville, Indiana.  I have a cousin in Port Angeles who Married = Robert=20 Lewis Gudgel.  The family had some information showing Andrew #1, = father of=20 John who was father of Andrew #2, who was father of Louis Melhouse = Gudgel from=20 whom our Robert is descended.  They knew the Gudgels were from = Indiana, so=20 I've been trying to gather information for them.  What I found was = on the=20 internet, but would like to know if it is correct.  Would love to=20 correspond with you.
 
We would also like to visit the Gudgel = Cemetery=20 this weekend, and take some pictures for them.  Is this cemetery = easily=20 accessible, and could you tell me how to find it?
 
I love genealogy, and am looking = forward to hearing=20 from you.
 
Sincerely,
Sandra Weir
rockie@tds.net
 
------=_NextPart_000_0101_01BFD19A.C4208EA0-- From gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com Fri Jun 9 04:12:04 2000 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id EAA11172; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 04:11:45 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 04:11:45 -0700 Message-ID: <000d01bfd203$679954a0$b394fcd1@lindascomputer> From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" To: "Gudgel List" Subject: Fw: GUDGELL Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 07:11:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <"Y_rnC.0.Vk2.m3DGv"@mx1> Resent-From: gudgel-list@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1400 X-Loop: gudgel-list@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com Another email came this morning from someone looking for a GUDGEL(L) connection. I first heard from Shelly several years ago but haven't been able to help her. If anyone can help-let us all know. Hope everyone has a great day. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; ; Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 9:46 PM Subject: GUDGELL > In searching Gendex, I found that you are also working on that surname. I'm > looking for Barbara QUIGLEY, who married a GUDGELL, his first name unknown. > Barbara's father was Lawrence QUIGLEY, (1898-1966). Possibly she lived/lives > in New York. Have no further info on her at all. Any help appreciated. > Thanks. > Shelly > Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 08:22:28 -0700 Subject: "Gudgel Family Connections" Newsletter continues From: "Wm. E Gudgel" Hello to all of my GUDGEL Cousins, GREAT NEWS ... The “GUDGEL FAMILY CONNECTIONS” NEWSLETTER will be continued. We are currently going through a restructuring process and we are entering what I refer to as Phase # 2. As you know, because of health reasons, Doyal Gudgel has decided to no long publish our “GUDGEL Family Connections” newsletter. For that reason I have recently agreed to take over the responsibility of Newsletter Editor for the GUDGEL FAMILY CONNECTIONS” Newsletter. To guarantee our readers that they get a newsletter that they will enjoy reading and will want to save as a future genealogy reference I have asked three GUDGEL Family Historians to join our staff as Regular Staff Writers and all have accepted. They include: Dianne Gudgel-Holmes, Doyal Gudgel, and Linda Gudgel Finnell. All are outstanding Family Historians and fantastic at researching details about our Gudgel family. They are really nice people too. As for myself, William E. Gudgel (AKA Bill Gudgel of Evansville, IN), I bring the following skills to the “Gudgel Family Connection” Newsletter: Author of a Copyrighted Book, 3 1/2 years of experience as the Newsletter Editor for the Tri-State Ski Club of Evansville, IN, Public Speaker, Professional Photographer, Certified Court Videographer, Amateur Family Genealogy Researcher, and ... I am a GUDGEL. In an effort to encourage new subscribers we are lowering the subscription rate and making a special offer. For a limited time we are offering a renewal or new subscription rate of $15.00 for 5 quarterly issues. That means that your subscription wont need to be renewed until January 1, 2002. However, to obtain this special offer your check must be postmarked by July 31, 2000. Any checks postmarked on or after August 1, 2000, the rate will be $15.00 for 4 quarters. We plan to have your first quarterly issue in your hands on or about September 1, 2000 and again on December 1, 2000. If you are interested in renewing or in starting a new subscription to the “GUDGEL Family Connections” Newsletter, please send your checks to me, William E. Gudgel; 2055 Shelby Ave.; Evansville, IN, 47714. Make your checks for $15.00 payable to William E. Gudgel and on the note portion of your check, write “for GUDGEL Family Connections Newsletter”. As a last point, we are trying real hard to lower expenses in order to encourage new subscriptions. As a result we are operating on a very tight budget so, If you would like to donate above the subscription rate we will use your donation to helping defray expenses. If you have further questions you can contact me by: e-mail at wegudgel@juno.com or by U.S. Mail at the above address. Have a great week, Bill Gudgel Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 15:32:49 -0700 Subject: NEWSLETTER SUBSCRIPTION CORRECTION From: "Wm. E Gudgel" Hello to all of my GUDGEL Cousins, In the notice I sent out about ... "Gudgel Family Connections" Newsletter continues ... I made a mistake about the RENEWAL DATE. The articles states, incorrectly, that your renewal date will be Jan 1, 2002 ... it SHOULD SAY YOUR RENEWAL DATE WILL BE SEPTEMBER 30, 2001. That will get your subscription renewal in so you can be sure to receive your December Issue (4th quarter of 2001) on schedule. I apologize for the confusion and hope that this clears up any confusion about your next renewal. Have a great weekend, Bill Gudgel From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: GODSHALL/WOODFILL-new information Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 08:59:27 -0400 Hi folks- In yesterdays mail I received some new information from Captain Ron WOODFILL of Marblehead, OH. He sent me copies of the wills of Joseph WOODFILL and Catherine WOODFILL and also a research document typed by Meryle W. Miller about the GODSHALL and WOODFILL family Bible. I have no idea who Meryle Miller is or when this document was written but I have emailed Capt. WOODFILL and asked for more information. I will transcribe the research document today and hopefully get to the Wills in the next few days. This is something that gets us a little closer to working out this maze of GUDGEL(L)'s. It's the first documentation I have seen actually mentioning the maiden name of Barbary HOCH, second wife of old Andrew. I am trying to find more information about the WOODFILL Bible to see a complete list of descendants. Will keep you posted. I'm really excited about this. BTW- I got a phone call from Paul GUDGEL(L) of Texas last night (who is on the list also) and we had a really nice long conversation. Thanks for calling, Paul. It always makes my day when I hear from another interested GUDGEL : ) Linda ************************************************************************* Andrew GODSHALL, GUDGEL, GUDGEON-Joseph WOODFILL Bible Records Andrew GODSHALL born 1735, died 1799, married 1757 to Barbary HOCH/HOUCH. She was born 1737 and died 1807. (Note from Linda- the birth and death year for Andrew has been crossed out and handwritten as born 1727 and died 1815). Children of ancestors- Susanna GODSHALL-April 23, 1750 Rev. Gabriel WOODFILL Catherine GODSHALL-March 1, 1760 Rev. Joseph WOODFILL m. Oct. 20, 1777 Elizabeth GODSHALL-April 25, 1762 Rev. Daniel WOODFILL (Note from Linda-the WOODFILL boys all married GODSHALL sisters as we have found earlier). Andrew GODSHALL (GUDGEL, GUDGEON) was an early settler in Luzerne Township, near Brownsville, Fayette Co., Penna. He owned 317 1/4 acres and allowances in Luzerne Township a little southwest of Brownsville. This tract, called "Peaceable" was surveyed for him June 6, 1770, pursuant to an order of Survey No. 3452 dated June 14, 1769. The tract was later patented to him on June 10, 1788. See the Plans of Original Warrant of Fayette Co., Pennsylvania, in Book No. 1, page 104. (Note from Linda-I have a copy of the Survey and the Order). This warrant was one of the early warrants in Fayette Co. and was shortly after the Treaty of Ft. Stanwix in late 1768 when a great portion of land west of the mountains, including all of Fayette Co., was purchased from the Iroquois Indians. However, Andrew GODSHALL had apparently settled even before settlement was legal since it was noted on page 61 of the Ellis History of Fayette County, PA that one of the inhabitants near Redstone (Brownsville) was Andrew GUDGEON who, together with the other inhabitants, was warned off the land on March 23, 1768, as it had not been yet purchased from the Indians. It appears that Andrew GODSHALL sold his land into four separate parcels between October 18, 1788 and November 4, 1788, apparently leaving Fayette Co. and migrating to the West. The record of the sale in the Recorders Office of Fayette Co., PA, is in the following references: Deed Book A, page 252; Deed Book A, page 253; Deed Book B, page 27; & Deed Book B, page 28. Following is Quoted from letter to me by Mary WOODFILL, dated November 2, 1970: "After the DENBAUGH (DENBO) massacre, Daniel, Gabriel and families and Andrew GODSHALL family went west to Kentucky or Indiana. The Bible records I give are in writing in our Bible and are direct reports of my grandfather, John Bazil WOODFILL (1822-1919) who was six years old when Catherine GODSHALL died, and he told me he quoted her as she remembered her mother, Barbary HOCH. A Methodist publication of the early settlement of Washington Co. has some information of the 3 preacher WOODFILL's,--this book "Our Fathers Have Told Us" by Jacob Simson Peyton, is a reference I used." I have not listed the descendants from this Bible as they are almost identical to those copied from the Rezin and Sarah DOTSON WOODFILL bible. Meryle Miller **************************************************************************** Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 07:31:56 -0800 From: Dianne Holmes To: Linda Gudgel Finnell Subject: Re: GODSHALL/WOODFILL-new information Linda and all, The early Woodfill information IS very interesting news and also very perplexing. You will note that the information says Old Andrew's wife Barbara Hoch died in 1807. But we know from marriage records in KY that Andrew was already married to Betsy Payne by then, right? I find it interesting that the vital stat dates for Old Andrew in the old bible have been crossed out with the dates that we normally use today being inserted. I wonder if these newer dates are a result of more recent and not necessarily more accurate information? But we DO know for sure that OUR Old Andrew died in 1815. I hate to bring up the question, but could we be dealing with another Andrew Gudgel? I hope not as we have enough Andrews already. Please note the birth year for Gabriel Woodfill's wife Susanna Gudgel (1750) and her sister Catherine -- 1760 (who married Gab's brother Joe. There is 10 yrs separation here and thus there has to be more children born during this time period. I wonder who they might have been? Perhaps they didn't survive. We will have to do some figuring on how this all fits together with our previous data. Does anyone know for which religion the Woodfill boys were ministers? I still think this is really good news and will allow us to continue our search for solid data on Old Andrew and his era. Dianne Gudgel-Holmes Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 08:41:18 -0800 From: Dianne Holmes To: Linda Gudgel Finnell Subject: Re: GODSHALL/WOODFILL-new information Dear Linda, Daniela and all, In looking over the new Woodfill information, I started looking at some of the older messages on Old Andrew's kids or suspected kids. I wonder how this new information fits with the fact that Andrew Jr was suppose to have been born in Baltimore in 1760, which is the same date listed for Catherine Godshall Woodfill, who we see from the new data is also suppose to be Old Andrew's child. Then, in looking up the information that was researched for Miss Maddox in the 1920s by a private researcher (and which has been disseminated widely since then to all of us) I see that the Andrew that many believe to be our Old Andrew (but which I am still suspect) and his wife Catherine Eliz had a child (Maria Johanna) who was born in June of 1750 or poss 1751 (the year is unclear in the records). This doesn't fit well with the newer information because Susanna Godshall Woodfill is reported to have been born in April, 1750. Even if Maria Johanna WAS born in 1751 with Susanna being born the year before, it simply doesn't fit.Children were spaced naturally 2 yrs a part in those days so it is highly unlikely. The information for Miss Maddox goes on to state that Andrew and Catherine had another daughter in 1753--Ester. So this is why I believe we are dealing with 2 different Andrew Gudgels, Daniela. Yet I must admit I don't know how to separate them all. We know that Barbara Hoch's death date is a problem because Old Andrew was already married to Betsy Payne by then in KY and had kids by her. Certainly he did not divorce Barbara as that was unheard of. I know people went by nicknames a great deal in those days, but even considering that some of the names we have could be nicknames, I don't see that the dates fit well. Do we know enough about the places of birth to sort this out? Can anyone else explain the discrepancies? Dianne Gudgel-Holmes Anchorage From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: New WOODFILL researcher subscribed Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 22:46:55 -0400 Hi folks- We are adding one more subscriber to the list. I've just emailed Bob and asked that Captain Ron WOODFILL be added at his request. So give Bob time to add him and then you can ask him all the questions you like : ) Linda (from very warm and dry Kentucky.....we could sure use a rain!) From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Welcome Marcita Morris! Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 06:39:50 -0400 A BIG welcome to Marcita Morris of New Albany, IN, descendant of Amanda GUDGEL, daughter of Elijah! Hope we'll be hearing a lot from Marcita. Everyone have a great day! Linda From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: WELCOME TO CAPTAIN RON WOODFILL Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 07:27:09 -0400 Hi folks- I believe Captain Ron Woodfill is now subscribed so you guys can "fire away" with your questions. Ron-please tell us a little about yourself. Hope we'll be hearing a lot from you. We've got some hang-ups on this WOODFILL line. Everybody have a great day. Linda from HOT and DRY Kentucky. Chance of Thundershowers every day this week.....so far it's just going around us! Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:20:38 -0400 From: Captain Ron Woodfill Subject: geneology Gudgel list, I will start off with how I got interested in geneology. In the early 70s I knew after reading Woodfill of the regulars there had to be a connection. so I started doing some research. after about 6 years I made the connection. Joseph 1, Joseph 2, who married Catherine Gudgel, Joseph 3, John, Edward Brown 1, Edward Brown 2 and my father Edward Holden. In making this connection I gathered a lot of stuff including the wills that I understand Linda is going to put on line. Some of the question I am still seaking answers to are 1 Who was the mother of Joseph 2 and the twins Daniel and Gabriel. 2 Where is Joseph 3 buried (I believe in New Albany Indiana.) My records indicate that Joseph 3 and his son John move to New Albany Indiana. 3 What were there professions. 4 I would like to find more about Joseph 1, where he was born, how he got here , why he put all of his children in bondage to the Metzkers and Gudgels and where he died.Some of the facts I have uncovered which to me are interesting are that there are three marriages (this may have been the reason for the bondage) in Philidelphia by Joseph 1 and that Joseph 2 was a chaplin in the war of independence. About myself I am retired and run a sailing teaching / charter business. I am also interested in knowing if anyone on this list is a decendent of Joseph 2 and Catherine. Ron Woodfill From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: WOODFILL interests Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:05:03 -0400 On the subject of WOODFILL's I thought I would list my interests: Daniel WOODFILL, b. January 9, 1758 (where?), d. December 2, 1825 Jefferson Co., IN (buried where?) married November 1, 1779 S.W. Pennsylvania (where?) to: Elizabeth GUDGEL/GODSHALL, b. April 23, 1763 (where in PA?), d. August 6, 1843 (probably Jefferson Co., IN (buried where?), daughter of Andrew GUDGEL/GODSHALL and (Barbary HOCH?). Where is it found that Barbary HOCH was Elizabeth's mother? 9 Known children: Mary, John, Andrew, Daniel, Gabriel, Katherine, Elizabeth, Sarah, William. I would love to know more about this family. I haven't gotten into an in depth research on the WOODFILL's but I have quite a lot of data I have saved over the years and information from other researchers. Just haven't had the time.......so many surnames......so little time : ) I will try in the next few days to submit the Wills of Catherine WOODFILL and Joseph WOODFILL sent to me by Captain Ron WOODFILL. Thanks, Ron. Lots more questions but I will save those for later. I also want to go through my WOODFILL files and see if I have any answers to Ron's questions. Will try and do that over the weekend. Currently, besides working full time, I am trying to find a reception site for my youngest daughter's wedding next May. It's going to be a busy year : ) Linda From: Marcita.Rae.Morris@ccmail.census.gov Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:34:12 -0400 Subject: My descent--- Hello to all my Gudgel cousins! I didn't even know that I was a Gudgel until I finally got around to working on my Dad's side of the family. I've been doing Mom's side for some time now. I'm descended from Elijah Gudgel and Lydia Bell's daughter Amanda, who married Woodford Crossfield 20 Oct 1840. Their daughter May Elizabeth Crossfield married James Henry Smith on 11 May 1865. The daughter of that marriage, Pamily Jane Smith (yes, the spelling is correct.) married Herbert Clinton Morris and their son, Rupert Clinton Morris, was my father. By the way, in one of the archives, someone mentioned wondering how the Morrises and Overstreets fit into their descent--well, I don't know about their line, but Herbert Clinton Morris' parents were Francis Marion Morris and Delia (or Della) Overstreet. Delia was the daughter (by my records) of Thomas Jefferson Overstreet. I'm a computer clerk for the Document Services Branch of the National Processing Center of the U.S. Census Bureau. I'm originally from Louisville, KY, but we moved to southern Indiana ten years ago--first to Jeffersonville, then to New Albany. Computers are pretty well my hobby, all my genealogy and my writing are done on my PC. I've got my A+ Certification as a technician, so I can keep my computer up and running pretty well. If anyone is researching the Overstreets, too, I would appreciate any information that you would have on Delia's children. I only have the names of the oldest and youngest (and the youngest may not even be hers!) According to my records, Delia died in 1886, but according to a cousin on the Morris side of the family, Delia and Francis were supposed to have had 12 kids. It would appear that Herbert Clinton was their eldest, and the youngest seems to have been Charles Morris, who was still alive in 1982 (he sent flowers to my father's funeral!) Since Delia died after abt 9 years of marriage, the three or so youngest may be by another wife. My father often mentioned an "Uncle Lurane" as well, but I don't how he fits in. I like the idea of having so many cousins out there to discover. And here I thought I was from a very small family . . . .! Later, Marcita Rae Morris marcita.rae.morris@ccmail.census.gov marcita_m@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:42:43 -0700 From: Helen Crossfield To: Angie Naskle , Betty Crossfield Allen , "BMeyer4667@aol.com Meyer" , David Lambert , Denise Wilder , "Diana M. Nelson" , Doris Cutler , Eddie Crossfield <"cargro apop"@aol.com>, "EGudgel@aol.com" , Frank Meier , Gayle Putt , Greg Newton , "Gudgel-List@eskimo.com" , "HAPPYWHW@aol.com WHEIDMAN" , "HELM-L@rootsweb.com" , "HibbsL@cs.com" , "hughejl@okstate.edu" , "HYproof@aol.com" , J W Neff , Jean Camas , Jeff Sauer , John Kays , "JTeveb6441@aol.com" , Karen Ming , Kate Koder , "kgoranflo@worldnet.att.net" , "klhale@mmm.com" , "Kybrenda@aol.com" , "LilGlazier@aol.com" , Linda Wilburn , Mark Shepherd , Marlene Sims , Marty Marmaduke , Melody Naskle , Melvin Vinson , "Mia K. Fleegel" , Muriel , Nancy Davenport , Otto Placke , Paul Brockman , "PECK-L@rootsweb.com" , Phil Zobrist , "Philip Atkins (by way of James J. Adkins II , "PSumm@aol.com" , Ralph Johnson , "Rhonda L. Parker" , Robert Cooper , Roger Owens , Sandy Peggs , Shelby Williams <"Shelby"@534@aol.com>, Sherrie Fields , "sims@randomc.com Sims" , "sissy@isni.net Hayosteck" , smartin , "Sndyhnrch@aol.com" , Terry Crossfield , "The Pierce's" , Winnie Wright CC: John Crossfield Subject: Smitty Crossfield You haven't hear from Smitty in a while. She got broncitis about a week after she came back from FL. She was in the hospital for several days. She is at home now and not doing well at all. She is very weak and not eating much. I'll keep you posted. John Crossfield From: GudgelDoc@cs.com Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 20:00:47 EDT Subject: questions To: Marcita.Rae.Morris@ccmail.census.gov, gudgel-list@eskimo.com I have 2 questions for you. 1. I have a descendent (my great Grand mother) that was a Bell also. I see that you list a "Lydia Bell" as a descendent. My Great grandfather (Calvin Gudgel) married a Mary Bell (born 1847). She was the daughter of Ning and Nan Bell from Illinois, (near Kinderhook). I wonder if they are related?? Any thoughts on this. 2. Francis Marion Morris is listed as a descendent of yours. Did you know that there was also a Francis Marion Gudgel. Francis was the brother of the Calvin Gudgel listed above. Francis was born in Illinois and later moved to Nebraska. Calvin moved off to Indian Territory (Okla) in 1890 and later settled in North Texas in Pottsboro. Larry Gudgel From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: WILL OF JOSHEPH WOODFIELD Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:37:37 -0400 Below is the Will of Joseph WOODFIELD, who married Catherine GUDGEL. I have submitted this as it appears to be. This was sent to me by Capt. Ron Woodfield. If I have interpreted this anywhere omcorrectly I hope he will correct me. *************************************************************************** Noncupative Will Joseph Woodfield Registered in Will Book No. (S or 5?) page 364 Samuel Clarke, Register proven 26th Oct., 1798 This noncupative Will of Joseph WOODFIELD late of Montgomery County in Pennsylvania Deceased as spoken by the said Joseph in the presence of us the subscribers who were present at the pronunciation on thereof To Wit I give to my daughter Mary the light colored gray mare and to my son Joseph any dark or dapple gray mare and yoke of oxen. I leave all the rest of my stock with the maveables and money that I have to my Wife. My lands are to be equally divided among my children, my Wife's (divides?) excepted during her natural life, my ( ? ) that the Warrant that I got (cut or out?) for to be laid on lands in the (Siota?) are to be sold and the interest arising therefrom to be applied to the schooling of my children the principal of the money arrising from the sale of said Warrants is to be equally divided amongst the children. As Witnefs our Hands this Twenty-sixth day of October 1798. James Hastings John (his mark) Wells Washing County (to wit) Be it remembered that on the Twenty-sixth Day of October A.D. one thousand seven hundred and Niney eight came personally before me Samuel Clarke Esq., Register for the probate of Wills and granting letters of adminstration in and for said County James Hastings and John Wells subscribing witnefses to the within and aforegoing Instrument in writing who being duly sworn according to Law did declare and say that they were personally present and saw Joseph OODFIELD in his last sickness in his own House at which place he died and heard him utter or exprefs himself agreeably to the above instrument in writing (as nearly in the words but certainly so in effect as we are able to recollect) as and for his last WIll and that after so doing he the said Joseph WOODFIELD charged us to bear Witnefs thereof and that the said Testator was at the time of making said Will of perfect mind memory and understanding according to the best of our understanding observation and belief and that he expired on the Twenty third day of September last past and about one week after making the above Will. James Hastings John (his mark) Wells Affirmed and subscribed (Coram?) me Samuel Clarke, Register *************************************************************************** FFrom gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com Mon Jun 19 18:39:55 2000 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id SAA04275; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:38:06 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:38:06 -0700 Message-ID: <005201bfda58$14435f00$3a46fcd1@lindascomputer> From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" To: "Gudgel List" Subject: Fw: Gudgel burials Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:30:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <"lP_LV1.0.e21.zhiJv"@mx1> Resent-From: gudgel-list@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1414 X-Loop: gudgel-list@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com Thanks to Daniela Moneta in Arizona for sending these gravesites in Jefferson Co., IN. Keep up the good work! Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniela Moneta" To: Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 9:47 PM Subject: Gudgel burials > Dear Linda, (I hope this doesn't come to you in enormous type like I am > seeing it now!) I copied some gravesites from the following website: > > > http://www.myindianahome.net/gen/jeff/records/cemetery/index.html > > Pisgah Church Cemetery > Graham Township, Sec. 15-4-8. > 1941 D.A.R. Cemetery Records > > > Gudgell, Amos, 1834 - 1888 Gudgell, Mary Trout, 1837 - 1878 Gudgell, Almira > w/o David Gudgell, d. 30 July 1842 , age 35 years Gudgel, Melissa J., 09 > Nov 1842 - 02 May 1925 Gudgel, Wesley D., 02 Jun 1827 - 18 Jan 1902 Gudgel, > Mathilda, 06 Mar 1835 - 26 Aug 1908 Gudgel, George W., 1856 - 1928 Gudgel, > William, 1854 - 1922 Gudgel, Dona Coombs, 1870 - 19__ , Otto J., 1870 - > 1936 , Belle, 1856 - 1934 > rom gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com Mon Jun 19 18:39:55 2000 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id SAA04303; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:38:09 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:38:09 -0700 Message-ID: <005301bfda58$15791fe0$3a46fcd1@lindascomputer> From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" To: "Gudgel List" Subject: More Cemetery Records-Jefferson Co., IN Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:31:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <"qT2jz2.0.931.0iiJv"@mx1> Resent-From: gudgel-list@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1415 X-Loop: gudgel-list@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniela Moneta" To: Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 10:43 PM > Hi Linda, > I am goiing through the Jefferson Co., IN cemetery records online for > Gudgels. Here are some more. > > > Marling Cemetery > Saluda Township, Section 35-3-9 > (near Saluda High School) > 1941 D.A.R. Cemetery Records > > Gudgel, Sarah, died Jan. 14, 1850 , in 33rd year Gudgel, Stephen, son of T. > & S., died Aug. 10, 1847, age 1 year Gudgel, Elizabeth H., wife of Thornton > B., died Oct. 21, 1854, in 35th year > > Daniela > From gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com Mon Jun 19 18:40:00 2000 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id SAA04245; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:38:03 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:38:03 -0700 Message-ID: <005001bfda58$11d7dd40$3a46fcd1@lindascomputer> From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" To: "Gudgel List" Subject: Fw: Joseph Woodfield's will Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:24:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <"yMPOK.0.E21.whiJv"@mx1> Resent-From: gudgel-list@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1413 X-Loop: gudgel-list@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Ron Woodfill" To: Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 6:46 PM Subject: Joseph Woodfield's will > Linda, > Thank you so much for taking the time to get Joseph's will out. I know how > much work it was. Do you intend to do the same with Catherine's will? Ism't > the internet great. If anyone wants a copy of the wills I will send them as > long as there are not to many. > captron DGS > Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:57:16 -0400 From: Captain Ron Woodfill Subject: Joseph Woodfield's will Just a follow up on Joseph Woodfield's will. He died of Tuberculosis and left a widow Catherine Gudshall Woodfield (changed to Woodfill before her death). She and her six children (ages 1 to 17) survived and florished and she lived for another 29 years. They are both buried in marked graves at Taylor church near Brownsville Penn. (Washington County). A remarkable woman. I am a decendent of this union. Ron Woodfill From gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com Tue Jun 20 16:47:35 2000 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx2.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id QAA09949; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000701bfdb11$6c938f40$2214fcd1@lindascomputer> From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" To: "Gudgel List" Subject: Will of Catherine GUDGEL WOODFILL Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:43:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <"a25EX1.0.KR2.A80Kv"@mx2> Resent-From: gudgel-list@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1417 X-Loop: gudgel-list@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com Below is the Will of Catherine GUDGEL WOODFILL which was sent to me by Captain Ron WOODFILL. Linda **************************************************************************** CATHERINE WOODFILL LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT July 10, 1828 I Catherine WOODFILL of East Bethlehem township Washington County State of Pa being weak in body but of sound mind and memory (Blefsed be Almighty God for the same) do make and publish this my Last Will and Testament in manner and form following (that is to say) And first Item I give and bequeath to my son Rezin WOODFILL my family Bible my large copper kettle my large Dining table and fifteen Dollars in money- Item 2d- I give and bequeath to Daughter Betsy Jackman my case of Drawers (any bed and bedding for the use of her Daughter Catherine Jackman. Item 3rd- I give and bequeath to my son John WOODFILL all the rest of the property I now own except the Donation herein after mentioned that is to say- one (Bureau?) one Bed and bedding and cow for the use of Luiza WOODFILL my gran Daughter now living with me. Item 4th-And considering that my daughter Catherine SCANLOTT had her share in her lifetime I have in trust in the hand of my son John WOODFILL one dollar apiece for each of her children to be paid to them as they come to lawful age. My Will is that my son John pay all my just debts and funeral expenses out of his Donation and I do hereby appoint James (Reynolds?) my executor and see to the above division and (tr_____) this my Last Will and Testament hereby Revoking all former Wills by me made in Witnefs whereof I hereunto set my hand and seal this twenty fifth day of February in the year of Our Lord on thousand Eight hundred and twenty eight. Catherine (C or G?) WOODFILL (mark seal) Signed sealed published and Delivered by the above named Catherine WOODFILL to be her Last Will and Testament and in the presents of us-who at her request and in her presents have subscribed our names as witnefses thereunto. (Hina?) Smith Hannah Reece Washington County Be it remembered that on the tenth day of July A.D. 1828 Before me James Cunningham Deputy Register for the probate of Wills and granting (title?) of Administration in and for the said County Came Hiriam Smith and Hannah Reece the subscribing witnefses to the written last Will and Testament of Catherine WOODFILL dec'd. who being duly sworn as the law directs do say that they were present and did see the Testator make her mark to this Will and did hear her publish pronounce and declare the same as and for her Last Will and Testament. That at the time of her so doing she was of sound and disposing mind memory and understanding to the best of their knowledge observation and belief. And sworn to and subscribed before me-James Cunningham, Regt. Hannah Reece Hiriam Smith July 10th 1828. Letters Testamentary with Copy of the Will and probate annexed ifsued to James Reynolds the Executor within named who on same day was duly sworn. ( ? ), Regt. From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Obituary of Smitty Crossfield-Wednesday, June 21, 2000 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 23:15:47 -0400 Hi Folks- It is indeed with a heavy heart that I submit this obituary following the recent death of my friend and fellow researcher for a number of years, Smitty Crossfield, of Anderson Co., KY. Smitty and I, along with Dr. Jim and Fannie Pope of St. Louis, MO have researched together for a number of years and have shared so many fun times. I knew her for a long while before I even knew her given name was Helen--everyone called her "Smitty". Smitty was a subscriber to our GUDGEL mail list from the beginning. Her husband, Willie who died in 1999, was a descendant of the CROSSFIELD family in Anderson Co. (Woodford CROSSFIELD married Amanda GUDGELL and Richard Henry CROSSFIELD married Martha Bell GUDGELL, daughters of Elijah GUDGELL and Lydia BELL). Sometimes we would visit places such as the old Salt River Baptist Church, the Glen's Creek area where old Andrew's grist mill was said to have been, the old Glen's Creek Church, the old CROSSFIELD mansion in Anderson Co. on the Anderson City Road, and the GUDGELL Cemetery on Rice Road. We have traipsed through thickets and creeks, mud, brush, briars and cemeteries and loved every minute of it. Or we would meet at Smitty's house with Willie and Fannie and set around the table for hours talking about our research. We would stop long enough to go eat somewhere and then hit it again. More than once, Willie would get bored and wander off to his recliner in the den for a little nap. But the 4 of us would never tire of comparing notes, researching and wondering about this family. Oh, how I will miss those times and even more, I will miss my friend, Smitty. Tomorrow is the funeral and I will be going. Jim and Fannie Pope, even with their health problems, are driving the 8 hour trip from St. Louis to also attend. Tomorrow we will say goodbye to a friend who taught me how to laugh at myself, and a lot about the true meaning of friendship. Linda *************************************************************************** >From the Lexington Herald-Leader, Lexington, KY June 23, 2000 CROSSFIELD Helen "Smitty" McMurtry Crossfield, 77, Village Drive, Lawrenceburg, died Wednesday, June 21, 2000 at her residence. She was the wife of the late Willie Walker Crossfield and the daughter of the late Joseph Samuel and Mable Kathleen Bell McMurtry. She was born August 30, 1922 in Hardin Co., KY. She retired in 1982 following 20 years of service as a teacher and librarian at Western-Anderson School. She was a member and former Sunday School teacher of the Lawrenceburg First Presbyterian Church. She received her B.A. degree in Physical Education and English from the University of Kentucky and M.A. degree in Library Science from UK. She was a member of the Kentucky Retired Teachers Assoc., the Richard Clough Chapter of the DAR, the Kentucky and Anderson Co. Historical Society and a Magna Charta Dane. She served on the Kentucky Board of Directors for the American Heart Association. She is survived by three sons, John M. (Kathy) Crossfield, Versailles, Robert W. (Carla) Crossfield and Steve W. Crossfield, all of Lawrenceburg; six grandchildren, Matthew P. (Diane) Crossfield, Nicholasville, Sara C. (J.J.) Martin, Versailles, Elizabeth C. (Dixon) Jowers, Ft. Worth, TX, Emily L. and Lesley A Crossfield, Versailles, and Samuel M. Crossfield, Lawrenceburg; six great grandchildren, Shelby N. and Xassandra B. Martin, Versailles, James Mark Pike, Heather Pike, Tulley Atkins and Katherine Grace Crossfield, all of Nicholasville. Funeral Services 11 a.m. Saturday at Ritchie-Todd Funeral Home with Rev. Steve Aschmann officiating. Burial in Lawrenceburg Cemetery. Friends may call 4-8 p.m. today and after 8 a.m. Saturday. Casketbearers will be John, Bob and Jim McWilliams, Bill Zopff, J.J. Martin, Matthew Crossfield and Chris Naskale. Contributions suggested to the Anderson Public Library, c/o Jeff Sauer, 114 N. Main St., Lawrenceburg, KY 40342. *************************************************************************** Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 05:52:52 -0700 From: Ralph Johnson To: Linda Gudgel Finnell , gudgel list Subject: Re: Obituary of Smitty Crossfield-Wednesday, June 21, 2000 Yes, even those of us who just met her on the internet will miss her too. The death of any Gudgel descendant is a personal loss. Before our genealogical research these people would be just names. Now they are family. Anytime you lose a family member you feel the loss. I treasure the contact I have had with her through the Newsletter and I am truly sorry to hear about it. I hope there is a picture of her on Bob's Gudgel web page. as I want to take a look. If not maybe Linda will send one for him to post. Doyal Gudgel Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 09:28:50 -0800 From: Dianne Holmes To: Linda Gudgel Finnell Subject: Re: Smitty It was a long time before I knew that Smitty was a "she." It was really neat one Halloween when she sent in her idea for a prank that she used to do as a kid--or at least did once (before getting caught). It was the old string-nail-rosin in the side of the wooden house trick. I used it and it was pretty good. I taught a few kids from the neighborhood, so Smitty's legacy will live on in the northland (as well as elsewhere I am sure). I wasn't aware she was ill. Linda, you mentioned that the Pope's will be coming to the funeral. I hope they do so that you are able to talk to them about their research. I know they are getting on in years and Dr Pope's Gudgel research is perhaps the most valuable we have (that we know of now). I am looking forward to seeing if you might be able to keep in contact with him again.. Once he was on our list but we have not heard from him for a long time. Thanks for letting us know about Smitty Dianne Gudgel-Holmes From: Bob Gudgel Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Smitty I'm very sorry Linda. I had heard that she was sick. PLease, if you get a chance, as my dad was asking about, send or email a picture of Smitty Crossfiedld and I'll post it on the web site. I would like to see what she looked like too. Yes, the loss of family is hard. Keep the faith! Bob Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 23:27:38 -0700 From: Ralph Johnson To: RWL23@aol.com, gudgel list Subject: Re: Gudgel line research This is a nice surprise. I am pretty sure we have some information that may be of benefit to you. The Gudgels have a Web Page at bgudgel@eskimo.com/~bgudgel (I think that is right) There are some GEDcom files and photos of various Gudgels. I looked at your list of names and saw several that I am sure I am familiar with. If you want to subscribe to the low volume list my son Bob puts out send an email to gudgel-list-request@eskimo.com and put "subscribe in the subject line. You will be welcomed by the 50 or so who subscribe to it. I hope you may have some information for us as the list is quite slow now because everyone has put in what they know and we need new research to get going again. You may be just the person to do that. Do you have a connection the Gudgels? Please subscribe to the list for at least a while and get acquainted. There are a lot of people there who will probably have an answer to any question you have. I posting your letter minus the jpg which fouls up the archives on the gudgel list because they are automatically posted but jpg's don't work too well. Have a nice day Doyal Gudgel RWL23@aol.com wrote: > > Doyal... > > I found your name in the Gibson County Lines newsletter of which I am a > subscriber. > > My research has been ongoing for over 23 years and I "collect" all related > lines using the Family Treemaker program version 7. Most of my research > centers in the tri-state area of INDIANA/ILLINOIS/KENTUCKY in the counties of > GIBSON, PIKE, KNOX, VANDERBURG, WABASH. After searching my database, I have > attached the following listing of all the "GUDGEL" surnames that I currently > have. > > As I am always updating my database, I thought that I would send you a copy > to see if we have any similar research in common. Although my info on > "GUDGEL" may be very limited, I may be able to supply more information to you > on any particular listed individual. I am hoping that if you can likewise add > additional information, that would greatly assist me and my research. > > Please let me know if any of this is useful and if you care to share > information. > > Thanks, > > Randall W. Lawson > HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/l/a/w/Randall-W-Lawson/index.html"> > Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: User Home Pages: The Randall W Lawson Home > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > [Image] From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: More on Smitty Crossfield Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 10:08:47 -0400 Good Morning all- To answer your questions about Smitty- Smitty had a lot of health problems but mainly it was her breathing I think. For those who didn't know her personally- Smitty loved a good joke or funny story better than anybody and she had an easy laugh. She had many notebooks filled with her research of the family's surnames. Dr. Jim Pope and his wife, Fannie, did not get to make the trip from the funeral after all but they were there in spirit I'm sure. I have a picture or two of Smitty, Jim and Fannie that I will scan to Bob to put on the web page soon. Hope everyone has a good day. Linda Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:39:33 -0700 Subject: Re: More on Smitty Crossfield From: "Wm. E Gudgel" Hi Linda, First allow to express my condolences. It is always sad to loose a family member especially when they have been a close friend to you. Second, If it is OK with you ... in addition to putting an article on the Gudgel Web Site, I thought we could put an article in the Gudgel Family Connections Newsletter. Could you send me a copy of the .jpg image you are going to send Bob? I can use the article you sent to the Gudgel-list or if you wish you could write another for the newsletter. Have a great week, Bill Gudgel, in Evansville, IN From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Crossfield photos Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:51:50 -0400 Hi Gang- I have just emailed 2 scanned photos to Bob Gudgel to be put on the web page. A photo of Smitty and Willie Crossfield and also a photo of the old "Crossfield Mansion" in Anderson Co., KY. This was the home of R.H. Crossfield and Amanda Gudgel (dau. of Elijah Gudgel and Lydia Bell). I'm finally getting the hang of this scanning and attachments I think. Not good yet, but I'm getting there : ) I have a lot of photos I need to send to Bob for the page and will try and do a few at a time. BTW, some of you know that my youngest daughter, Carrie, is getting married (next spring) so we are beginning to look for a reception site. Not 100% sure but one of the options is the Kentucky History Center. The gorgeous long winding staircase will make a beautiful entrance for any bride I think. Will keep you posted. I still encourage anyone who has the opportunity to be in the area to make plans to visit the awesome place. You won't be sorry and it will be time well spent. Later, Linda From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Crossfield Photos correction Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 06:13:23 -0400 Sorry- My error- The Crossfield Mansion was owned by R.H. Crossfield and Martha Bell Gudgel (not Amanda Gudgel, her sister), both were daughters of Elijah Gudgel and Lydia Bell. Everybody have a great day. Linda From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: GUDGEL(L)'s-Livingston Co., MO Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:33:08 -0400 Something of interest I found on the Livingston Co., MO web page about families in the community of Utica. Maybe a clue for someone? Can anyone identify these GUDGELL's?. Linda Crain and Gudgell Families Joseph A. Crain came from Kentucky after the civil war in the latter part of the 1800s. He settled in the North area of Ludlow about one mile on the now blacktop from the four corners. He married Margaret Gudgell and the couple had ten children. Albert C. Crain was the ninth child of the ten and was born in the farm house at Ludlow. Like his father before, Albert was a hired laborer working mostly for the local farmers around that area. He was well known for his ability as a fast corn husker. Albert married Irene (Bland) from Chillicothe and the couple had nine children with four of the babies dying in their infancy. The surviving children are Margaret and Alberta now deceased, Ruth Nelson of Omaha, Nebraska, Charles of Chillicothe, and Earl of Kansas City. Albert and Irene moved to Utica in 1909 and lived in a house (since torn down) very near the depot. The Crain family lived at this location until 1931 when they moved to Mooresville to live until 1955. Albert worked on the labor section with Burlington (CB&Q) railroad for forty-six years. Even though he certainly qualified as a foreman for all of those years, due to the unfortunate social structure befalling a black man he remained only considered as common labor. Charles A. Crain was born in the house near the Utica Depot and as a child growing up there recalls the many trains arriving in Utica. He remembers P. E. Bagley, the daytime station agent and Otis Smith, the nighttime agent. As a young boy, Charles was used as the message deliverer for the Western Union telegrams. He got to deliver around the local area for ten cents a delivery. He recalls the excitement of that much money, and he was only a little guy then. Charles went to the Attucks School in Utica, through the eight grade. His parents, sisters, and brothers were active in their local church and school activities. At the age of thirteen, after his eighth grade graduation in 1931, he moved to Mooresville with his parents. During his high school years Charles lived with his mother's sister, Ruth Anderson and attended school in Chillicothe at Garrison High School. He worked for Hagar's Restaurant, across from the courthouse to the North, Adalines Dress Shop (now where Fletchells is), and did cleaning work at the Windmoor whenever his school time would permit him, to earn a living while attending school full time. In the summer months during vacations Charles would return to the surrounding areas of Utica and Mooresville and do odd jobs, farm work, or weed onions for his Uncle Floyd Gudgell or weed flowers for others. He remembers his uncle paying him ten cents a row for weeding the onions. It seemed like the rows were from "here to town" as he reminisced from his home on Conn Street in Chillicothe. The last year of high school he worked the summer cleaning rugs at Slifer's Cleaners (now Model Cleaners). After finishing high school and being unable to find a profitable full time job, Charles decided to sign with the C. C. C.. (Civilian Conservation Corp) Camp in 1937. He was sent to Delta, Missouri near the Missouri boothill. The work at the camp was that of cleaning and maintaining levies and drainage ditches. One could only sign up on this State program for a two year period, and although Charles hated to leave, his term was up in 1939. During the time he was at the camp he became one of the overseers of a group of fifteen or so. Each group was given so much area to maintain during the daytime shift. Charles would divide his area by walking off a space for each of his men and himself and each person was responsible to service their own area assigned. By this method each man was working by himself and the job appeared to get done quicker with less goofing off. Charles returned to Chillicothe but after about one year of doing odd jobs and unable to find any steady work, at the age of twenty-three, he and three of his friends, Clifton Scott, Lester Williams and Bill Frazier went to join other friends who had gone previously to Los Angeles, California. They each struggled at finding work and Charles became employed by Pittsburg Water Heater Company. He worked for this company until his draft notice of March 1942. All of his friends also received their notices and in order for all of the boys to leave together they returned to Chillicothe. The young men were sent to Fort Leavenworth to take their physicals and to be inducted. Charles was transferred to Tuskegee, Alabama from Fort McClellan to an all black army air force unit. From there he went to Scottfield, Illinois to a radio operator mechanic school and then to Tomah, Wisconsin to a control net systems school which was similar to todays radar. After a short stay at Selfridge Field, Michigan he was sent to Godman Field, Kentucky where he was a radio operator on a B-25 Bomber. When he was discharged he was a staff sergeant with all of his time being within the United States, as the war ended before his group had finished their training to go overseas. He was not over elated about his service years and can remember just how long the time was, "three years, eight months twenty days, and some minutes. Charles remembers quite well arriving home on the train in Chillicothe. It was on a Christmas Eve around dusk. He was met by his mother, and brother who had just been discharged also. He took a job at the Utica brick plant for about a year and then was hired by Slifer's Cleaners once again as a cleaner and presser. He worked at Slifer's for twenty years and during this period he took side jobs, cleaning at Mart Drugs, North Missouri Lumber, a local-church and anything else including being a bellhop at the Strand Hotel, in order to earn a good living for his family. At the age of thirty-one years, he married his wife, Betty Jane (Parker) who had been a previous acquaintance before his service days. They have raised nine children, all being born in Chillicothe and all graduated from the Chillicothe High School. Their children are Pamela of Rochester, New York; Clarence of Los Angeles, California; Michael who is a preacher in Columbia, Missouri; Steven of Tulsa, Oklahoma; Shelly of Elgin, Illinois; Rodney of San ;Diego, California; Charles Jr. of Denver, Colorado, Marsha and Gregory both of Chillicothe, Missouri. In l966, Charles took a position as custodian at Central School where he worked until his retirement in 1983. He still does some part-time filling in at the Chillicothe schools whenever needed. Other than one day a week on an outside job working for Lenora Lambert, Mrs. Crain has cared for her nine children and the housework plus raising big gardens and still finds time for her favorite hobby of fishing. Betty and Charles have lived on Conn Street for the past twenty-five years and are both in fair health. Both are devoted to their church work and feel that God has given them many blessings as they struggled throughout their lives to be Christians and raise a good family. Charles recalls his great blessing of a good wife and mother to their children. As parents they have tried to teach their children to be independent; knowing how to work, tried to give them a basic education, and tried to instill in them the real values of life. Their ambition for the future is to rest more and take life easier. As they try to fulfill these hopes they plan to travel more to visit their children and their fourteen grandchildren, all of whom they love very much. Since these children are scattered from one coast to the other they can always find a different area to travel through. Charles likes to fish, hunt, and most all types of sports. He remembers the more youthful years of playing on the basketball, baseball and track teams. He could remember his grade school teachers while living in Utica and Mooresville areas and attending the Attucks School. Those he mentioned were Mrs. Saunders, Mrs. Jackson, Mrs. Rosemand, Mrs. Kinney, Mrs. Winfry, and Mrs. Green (no relation of Emma Green of Utica.) These were but a few of those teachers that have taught over the past years at Attucks School. Charles was considered the cut-up of the school and if he got into trouble at school he could expect trouble at home. He told of the great fun that the white and black children had playing together with their sleighs and sleds on snow and ice down "Dietrich Hill" (road between Harold Romeiser and Gary Sirois residences and the ice skating on the brick plant pond. The fond memories of John and May Lee who were respected by the whites and the blacks alike and livened up Utica with their hall above their restaurant with the many social events that took place there and the dances, music and other gatherings. He remembered their first auto after Betty and Charles were married. It was a used 1946 Dodge. Both knew how to drive but Betty has never had a license or driven since licenses have been required. One amusing remark made by Charles is when he remarked that his families had always been Methodists and Republicans. He said that no black man would ever admit publicly that he was anything but a Republican since that was the political party of Abraham Lincoln. Other black people would certainly look on or take harsh action on their people if they admitted they were a Democrat. That has all changed now and their people believe that in voting one should vote for the man best qualified regardless of his party. One of the highpoints of Charles' life is being selected the first black person to serve on a jury in Livingston County, in 1968. As he reminisced of some of his orneriness, he talked about the times that his cousins from Ludlow stayed with the Crain family to go to school, Walter and Leon Frazier. At this time of his life all of his sisters had left home so the four boys left, including the cousins, had to take turns doing the morning dishes. While Walter and Earl were doing dishes Leon and Charles would be out in the outhouse taking their morning smoke and visa versa with the other two boys. One morning while Walter and Earl were taking their smoke, their mother looked out the window and saw all of the smoke coming out of the cracks. She washed their mouths out with P. & G. laundry soap and that stopped the morning smoking. The old school bell would ring at 8:30 am and again at 9:00 am when time for school to begin. The boys always liked to go early to play but their mother would not let them go until the first bell rang. The boys would climb up on the roof of the home and ring an old bell that they kept hidden so that their mother would think it was the school bell and they would get to go earlier. Another tie to the Utica area with Charles Crain was his Great Uncle and Aunt, John and Bertie Gudgell. John was the brother to his Grandmother Crain. John is well known by some of the older residents of Utica and the surrounding towns. He was an extremely popular and good carpenter. John is credited with building many of the homes in Utica and the vicinity around. He was born in Ludlow and came to Utica with his family. The Gudgells made their home at one time in the house that Minnie Taylor lived in for a good number of years and later was completely remodeled by Bill Cole, Sr. John and Bertie left this home to move in with their Aunt Susan Smith to care for her until her death. Her property was passed on to the Gudgells where they lived until their death. They are buried in the Utica Cemetery. They had five children of which two are still living. From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: More on Livingston Co., MO Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:39:02 -0400 >From the index of the 1866 Livingston Co., MO History: GUDGEL, Capt. 1266 Ed 809 GUDGELL, Ed T. 1265 Ed. 808, 1054 Edward 735 J.T. 808 John T. 735, 985 >From the History of Mooresville, Livingston Co., MO- 1999 Index: GUDGELL, Ed Emma Family John R.E. Spence John T. Lovey M. Gregory Mildred Mildred L. GUDGEL, H. John R.E. GUGELL, Robert Spence I know of this family but wonder if any of you have these books? I'd love to have copies of the references in them to this family. Linda From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Reference to GUDGELL's-MO Newspaper Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 11:13:40 -0400 I also found this reference to our family. Anyone have access to this microfilm? E. GUDGELL-mentioned in an article of September 12, 1856, Wed. 23rd of July Chillicothe Constitution. (Livingston Co., MO). GUDGELL, Mr and Mrs. Jno. (John) 22 wedding anniversary guest list, Chillicothe (new) Constitution, Tues, Nov. 1890. (guest list surely would contain family members names!) Linda Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 10:17:19 -0700 From: Ralph Johnson To: Linda Gudgel Finnell Subject: Re: GUDGEL(L)'s-Livingston Co., MO It looks like this biography should not go into the data base unless it can be established that Margaret Gudgell descended from a Gudgel and not a slave and given that name by her or her ancestors owners. If this should be established that she was not descended from a Gudgel then we in the predicament we are with Henry T Gudgel where Tartts History of Gibson county recorded the he died in Pine Bluff Arkansas from wounds received at Shiloh. This would be real unfortunate if there was no connection. If it is established she was a Gudgel descended from Andrew Gudgel then by all means include it. Bob should not even put it in the archives due to the danger of it being included somehow in someone's Genealogy program as fact then forever being an error that can not be erased. This should be treated as like any other error. Don't put it there unless it is fact. That is my opinion. Doyal G Linda Gudgel Finnell wrote: > > Something of interest I found on the Livingston Co., MO web page about > families in the community of Utica. Maybe a clue for someone? Can anyone > identify these GUDGELL's?. > Linda > > Crain and Gudgell Families From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Fw: [KYANDERS] Brand New Searchable Ky Death Index, 1911-2000 Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 14:24:41 -0400 This new database of death records for KY was just released online and covers the most current years beginning in 1911 . Much easier to use and does not limit you to 25 or less results as the older years do. Check it out. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 12:26 PM Subject: [KYANDERS] Brand New Searchable Ky Death Index, 1911-2000 > Announcement --- > > On Sat, 01 Jul 2000 02:05:25 -0400, Pam Carey Durstock wrote: > > >We've just this instant brought online, the complete, up-to-date > >search of the entire Ky DEATH INDEX for 1911-2000! > > > >This one is searchable by many more fields. > >It has soundex and metaphone searching (if you've never tried > >metaphone, you should!) > >There is no maximum limit to the number of results. > >Layout is much better, and easier to read. > > > >Check it out!!! > > http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ky/death/search.cgi > > I've added a link to the new Index on the Anderson County KyGenWeb page > under "Other Sites Relating to Kentucky" > (immediately under the Commonwealth flag). This is such an incredible advance in tools for > Kentucky post-1910 genealogy research. > > Birchell Coslow > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > From: GudgelDoc@cs.com Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:38:17 EDT Subject: Patriotism is earned Just think of what old Adrew lived through. This is the time of the year to be thankful for all the Gudgel's that have served to keep us free. Freedom to choose our church of worship, freedom to have families and choose our own jobs and destiny. Anyway, I thought this was very interesting and I had never seen it put this way before and I thought everyone would enjoy it. Larry D. Gudgel, Major, USAF Wright-Patterson Air Force Base Ohio > > > > > > PATRIOTISM..................... > > > > > > Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the > > > Declaration of Independence? > > > > > > Five signers were captured by the British as traitors and were > > > tortured before they died. > > > > > > Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. > > > > > > Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had > > > two sons captured. > > > > > > Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the > > > Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their > > > fortunes, and their sacred honor. > > > > > > What kind of men were they? > > > > > > Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine > > > were > > > farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. > > > And > > > they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that > > > the > > > penalty would be death if they were captured. > > > > > > Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his > > > ships > > > swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and > > > properties > > > to pay his debts and died in rags. > > > > > > Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to > > > move > > > his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, > > > and > > > his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, > > > and > > > poverty was his reward. > > > > > > Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, > > > Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton. > > > > > > At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson Jr., noted that the British > > > General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his > > > headquarters. > > > He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home > > > was > > > destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt. > > > > > > Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy > > > jailed > > > his wife, and she died within a few months. > > > > > > John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their > > > 13 > > > children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were > > > laid to > > > waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning > > > home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks > > > later he > > > died from exhaustion and a broken heart. > > > > > > Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates. > > > > > > Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. > > > These > > > were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken > > > men of > > > means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty > > > more. > > > Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: > > > > > > "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the > > > protection of the divine > > > providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our > > > fortunes, and > > > our sacred honor." > > > > > > They gave you and I a free and independent America. The history > > > books > > > didn't tell you much about what happened in the Revolutionary War. > > > We > > > didn't just fight the British. We were the British; British subjects > > > who fought our own government! > > > > > > Some of us take these liberties much for granted, but we shouldn't. > > > > > > So, take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and > > > silently thank these patriots, as well as the thousands of men and > > > women who have followed them in defense of our great country. It's > > > not much to ask for the price they paid. Remember: Freedom is never > > > free! > > > > > > I hope you will show your support by sending this to as many > > > people as you can. Let's get the word out -- patriotism is NOT a > > > sin, and the Fourth of July is more than beer, picnics, and baseball > > > games. > > > > > > Much more. > > > From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Happy Fourth To All! Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 09:18:12 -0400 Thanks Larry for the inspirational piece you put on the list. I often wonder about Andrew's hardships and what all he and his family went through. If only he had been able to write maybe he would have left us more information. I will be gone a few days from Thursday till Sunday for a short vacation to New Orleans. Just a long weekend getaway well overdue. I'm looking forward to it. Anyone know of any special things we should try and see? Hope everyone has a great fourth! Linda From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: New Orleans trip Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:43:45 -0400 Thanks to everybody who gave us some tips about good places to eat and good foods to try! I will diet when I return : ) BTW, I got an email today that stated effective the 14th of July, all Kentucky birth certificates will go up in price to $10.00 each. Just thought someone may want to know. I'll talk to you guys when we get back. Linda From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: I'm Home Again! Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 06:56:08 -0400 Hi Folks! I am now home from our New Orleans trip and it was a great time- so much we had to come home to get some rest : ) Bourbon Street was a real education for this country girl. Everyone should go at least once. We did a cruise down the Mississippi, a Swamp tour (alligators and all!), and toured a real southern plantation. Hope to get back to my genealogy soon. Linda From: "M. Wingert" Subject: obit: Ernestine McWilliams Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 18:54:24 -0500 Ernestine McWilliams ,92, of Olney died at 8:40 pm Tuesday 18 July 2000 = at Crawford Memorial Hospital. (all places Illinois) Visitation will be = from 6 to 8 pm Sunday at Summers Kistler Funeral Home, Olney. Funeral = services will be at 1:30 pm Monday at the funeral home. Burial will be = in the Haven Hill Cemetery in Olney. Mrs McWilliams was born 23 July = 1907 in Claremont, the daughter of George and Lillie Gudgel Terhune. From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Lillie GUDGEL TERHUNE Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 10:46:26 -0400 Thanks Mary, for sending the obit of Ernestine McWilliams of Olney, Il, d/o George and Lille GUDGEL TERHUNE. I have some conflicting data with Lille GUDGEL TERHUNE that maybe you or someone can straighten out. I have Lillie A. GUDGEL b. abt. 1887 (obit say 92 years old-makes her born abt. 1908?). I have her married to (1)unknown TERHUNE-no date (2) James DISHONG Oct. 9, 1912 Richland Co., IL. (DISHONG must have been the first husband?). But the real problem is that I had her the daughter of John S. GUDGEL and Melinda HARROLD, and grand-daughter of Abram GUDGEL and Anne Elizabeth BURCH. Other siblings listed of Lillie are: Ira Abraham b. Jan., 1869 Rosealla b. 1875 Bert Allen b. Mar., 1878 Laura B. b. 1881 Earla b. Dec., 1887 Can someone clarify this for me? Also, did the death announcement have an extended obit that listed survivors or other information? Thanks for any help. Linda Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 16:10:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mia K. Fleegel" To: Linda Gudgel Finnell Subject: Re: Lillie GUDGEL TERHUNE Hi Linda, I think the confusion is that the obit is for Ernestine, the daughter, not for Lillie A. who would be much older. Here is some of the information I have on this family: I have a marriage from http://www2.sos.state.il.us/cgi-bin/marriage : DISHONG, JAMES H to TERHUNE, LILLIE A (MRS) RICHLAND Co,IL 10/09/1912 Vol.004, Page 0265 Lic. 00000116 [So the Terhune must be the first marriage!] Gleanings From Old Newspapers Clay and Richland Counties, Illinois Vol. 2 Lola B. Taylor page 212 John S. GUDGEL, aged 67 years, a veteran of the Civil War, died October 5, 1913. He is survived by the following children: Mrs. Mode STIVERS of Urbana, Mrs. James DISHON and Ira GUDGEL of Claremont, Bert GUDGEL of Calhoun and Ella of Route 8, Olney. Two brothers, James and William. Illinois State Archives Records 1883 History of Edwards, Lawrence, and Wabash Co., Township 4, North, Range 13, West Post Office - Sumner GUDGEL, John S. Sec 18, Farmer nativity - Jefferson Co., Ind settled 1859 Melinda Wife of John S. nativity - Richland Co., Ill settled 1868 page 148 John S. Gudgel, 61st Infantry, Co. K - mustered out 8 Sept. 1865 at Lawrence Co., IL 1860 Federal Census Richland County, IL GUDGEL Abraham 46 Elizabeth 40 Sarah 19 Hester 17 John 14 William 11 James 8 Mary 6 Martha 2 Hope this helps Mia ************************************************** On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Linda Gudgel Finnell wrote: > Thanks Mary, for sending the obit of Ernestine McWilliams of Olney, Il, d/o > George and Lille GUDGEL > TERHUNE. > > I have some conflicting data with Lille GUDGEL TERHUNE that maybe you or > someone can straighten out. > > I have Lillie A. GUDGEL b. abt. 1887 (obit say 92 years old-makes her born > abt. 1908?). I have her married to (1)unknown TERHUNE-no date (2) James > DISHONG Oct. 9, 1912 Richland Co., IL. (DISHONG must have been the first > husband?). But the real problem is that I had her the daughter of John S. > GUDGEL and Melinda HARROLD, and grand-daughter of Abram GUDGEL and Anne > Elizabeth BURCH. > > Other siblings listed of Lillie are: > Ira Abraham b. Jan., 1869 > Rosealla b. 1875 > Bert Allen b. Mar., 1878 > Laura B. b. 1881 > Earla b. Dec., 1887 > > Can someone clarify this for me? Also, did the death announcement have an > extended obit that listed survivors or other information? > > Thanks for any help. > Linda > > From: "M. Wingert" Subject: Fw: Lillie GUDGEL TERHUNE att: Linda Finnell Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 15:29:32 -0500 First, it was Ernestine Mc Williams who was 92, not Lillie Gudgel Terhune. Lillie was born 1876 in Illinois, daughter of John S Gudgel & Malinda Harrolle. Married 1st George W Terhune 1897. He was son of Mary J ?? & born ca 1867 in Indiana. and died before 1912 as she married 2nd James H Dishong 11 October 1912 in Richland County Il. (He was born ca 1854). She married 3rd Elza Musgrove aft 1920. (1920 census has her with James Dishong, 3 Dishong boys and daughter Ernestine Terhune) There was also a son Emery I Terhune b.ca 1903 that I have nothing further on. children of Lillie & George Terhune are:Emery I & Ernestine. children of Lillie & James Dishong are: Robert b.ca 1903, Lee b ca 1915 and Vernice b ca1918. She would be the granddaughter of Anne Elizabeth Burch & Abraham Gudgel. Siblings of Lillie are: Bert Allen b ca 1878 d 1945 Ira A b 1879 Laura B b 1876 IL Earl Alma (male) b 29 dec 1887 d. 17 June 1954 m. Iva Whitmer 18 Sep 1910. I do not have a Rosella listed anywhere except as a daughter of Bert Allen Gudgel & Mary E Pritchard who were married in 1903 and 1910 census mentions only 3 sons, Theodor, Victor & Herman. Besides what I listed in the obit abstract, this is the rest of the obit. (This is a pretty long e-mail. Will the list take it?? If not, then I'm in trouble again.!!) Mrs McWilliams was born July 23, 1907 in Claremont, the daughter of George & Lillie Gudgel Terhune. She married Russell Bunting on July 5, 1924. He preceded her in death on January 30, 1938. She married Roy McWilliams on November 14,1945, and he died on Oct 27, 1978. She retired from the shoe factory and garment factory and was a member of United Church of God in Olney. Mrs McWilliams is survived by a daughter, Virginia Wiemer of Olney, a half brother Vernice Dishong & wife Helen, of Claremont; 5 grandchildren; Roxana Stephens & husband David of Robinson; Tonya Johnson & husband Alan of Fargo ND; Toni Daniel & husband Bob of Evansville In; Eddie Marshall & wife Regina of Cilolo, Texas and Lowana Ervin & husband John of Gustin KY; several great grandchildren & great-great grandchildren. She was prededed in death by her parents, both husbands, 2 sons, Bobby 7 Mac Gordon Bunting, 1 daughter Elizabeth Tucker, 2 half brothers, Clark & Lee Dishong, one brother David Terhune, and 1 granddaughter, Vicki Hahn, Memorials may be made to Lincolnland Hospice or Richland county Humane Society. Linda: I hope this answers your questions. If not, ask again, I may find something I haven't added here. From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Lillie GUDGEL TERHUNE Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 00:57:52 -0400 Thank you everyone who responded to my questions about Lillie. I feel like....duh, Linda! Of course it was Ernestine's d.o.b. and not Lillie. Must have had a brain cramp : ) Thanks Mary and Mia for all your extra data. You guys are so helpful! The wedding plans are still a way off but we are trying to do all we can do before Carrie goes back to school in August. So much to do. The planning of the Christmas Homes Tour for the Historical Society in December is also going well. We have 8 homes chosen and I have a great bunch of people heading up the different committees so that reassuring. So what's everyone else been up to? More later, Linda From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" To: "arlb" References: <000801bff45b$6694eae0$4d38413f@c2s9c5> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 01:10:53 -0400 Arlene- I am forwarding your query to the GUDGEL mail list. I know there are = others that can help in more detail than I can....especially those who = are direct descendants to this line. Listers....please see Arlene's query below. If you respond to Arlene = please send a copy to the list so that we can all share the information. I show only one spouse for Allen GUDGEL (Mar. 1839 Jefferson Co., IN, d. = Adams Co., IL-when?). Allen was the son of Andrew GUDGEL and his first = of three wives, Elizabeth STAPLES. Allen married Lydia Fitzpatrick in = 1866 in Adams Co., IL. She also died in Adams Co., IL. Where are Allen and Lydia buried? I may have the children of Allen and Lydia but I don't have it entered = in my database. Still catching up on filing and posting. Maybe you can = get the information from others on this list before I find it . Thanks to anyone who can help Arlene out. Linda Arlene- ----- Original Message -----=20 From: arlb=20 To: lfinnell@lex.infi.net=20 Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 12:06 AM Subject: Gudgel Hi Linda, I am told you know more than any one about the Gudgel's. I am looking = for the children of Allen and Lydia Fitzpatrick Gudgel. I have the = name of one son Clarence, which was my grandfather. Can't find his = siblings though. Clarence died in Grayson County, Texas. Allen and = Lydia were married in Adams County, Illinois. Any help would be = appreciated. Arlene Gudgel Back From: Bob Gudgel Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: More Gudgel(l)s found online! I just ran across a Gudgel forum on the web. I'm not sure if anybody here is familiar with it, but I posted a couple little things there and invited people to check us out here too. The address is: http://www.genforum.genealogy.com/gudgel/ Maybe one of you can answer some of their questions. Thanks, Bob Gudgel, Everett WA From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" To: "Bob Gudgel" Subject: Re: More Gudgel(l)s found online! Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:48:52 -0400 Bob- This is a great site. Have already found 2 areas I want to check in to. Thanks for sending it. Linda From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Fw: Mrs Charles M. Gudgel Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:05:17 -0400 Hi Folks- I am forwarding this email I received today about Texas GUDGEL's. I don't have a lot on the Texas GUDGEL's after they arrived in Texas so I'm hoping someone can come up with some answers. Please share with the list also if you respond to the sender. Linda ---- Original Message ----- From: "jim hall" To: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 7:23 PM Subject: Mrs Charles M. Gudgel > Been looking through Grayson Co, Tx cemeteries on line. Charles Marion > Gudgel > (17 Sep, 1900 - 19 Sep, 1985) is buried in a single plot in Georgetown > Cemetery. > In West Hill Cemetery lies "Gudgel, Gertrude Saunders Nov 12, 1879 - Feb > ..., 1964. > d/o Mr and Mrs Richard Saunders born Lebanon, Ok, w/o C. M. Gudget (as > spelt). > Texas Death Records list Gertrude died 21 Feb, 1964 Grayson Co, Texas. > SSDI > records spell her name with 2 l's. Do you know if this lady is or could > be the wife > of Charles M. and any idea why they are buried apart? > From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Another GUDGEL researcher Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:13:05 -0400 In the Gibson County Lines newsletter (April, 2000) which Dianne GUDGEL-HOLMES recycles to me each month (thanks Dianne!) there appears the following query: I am researching the Gibson Co. surnames: GUDGEL, WEED, CARITHERS, KING, STORMONT and THURMAN. I am most interested in the time period prior to 1850 then 1850 to 1880, 1880 to 1890. I would like to find and buy a copy of "The History of Gibson County-1914" by Gilbert R. Stormont. Mr. Stormont was my granmother's first cousin. Contact new member Juanita (GUDGEL) Diorio, 2628 Hazelwood Ave., Kettering, OH 45419 (Anyone know this lady? I would think with the mention of the name WEED that she is a descendant of Abraham GUDGEL and Elizabeth WEED. I plan on writing her (I never write letters anymore.....everything is email now)! Nite all. Linda From: "Nancy Miller" To: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" , Subject: Re: Another GUDGEL researcher Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:19:17 -0700 Linda, I know what you mean about writing letters - I hate to do it also. But I will try and save you the trouble this time. I've addressed an envelope (first step!), run out a Family Group Sheet for Abraham and Anne Elizabeth Weed GUDGEL (10 children) and I will put in a short note asking if she is of this family and asking if she has e-mail. I should have done it long ago, since I also take the Gibson Co. newsletter, but guess I was too busy at the time to do it. Nancy Miller -----Original Message----- From: Linda Gudgel Finnell To: Gudgel List Date: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 8:16 PM Subject: Another GUDGEL researcher >In the Gibson County Lines newsletter (April, 2000) which Dianne >GUDGEL-HOLMES recycles to me each month (thanks Dianne!) there appears the >following query: > >I am researching the Gibson Co. surnames: GUDGEL, WEED, CARITHERS, KING, >STORMONT and THURMAN. I am most interested in the time period prior to 1850 >then 1850 to 1880, 1880 to 1890. I would like to find and buy a copy of >"The History of Gibson County-1914" by Gilbert R. Stormont. Mr. Stormont >was my granmother's first cousin. Contact new member Juanita (GUDGEL) >Diorio, 2628 Hazelwood Ave., Kettering, OH 45419 > >(Anyone know this lady? I would think with the mention of the name WEED >that she is a descendant of Abraham GUDGEL and Elizabeth WEED. I plan on >writing her >(I never write letters anymore.....everything is email now)! >Nite all. >Linda > > From: "Gail Hohenberger" To: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" , Subject: Re: Mrs Charles M. Gudgel Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:11:31 -0500 Charles Marion Gudgel was my uncle. There was never a Mrs. He died as an 85 year old bachelor. He is the son of Clarence and Nettie Gudgel. He had 1 sister, Julia Gudgel Pearson, and 3 brothers, John, George, and Kenneth (my Dad). There was another brother, Frank, that died at a young age. From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Marion GUDGEL Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 22:06:45 -0400 I found this on a link from the Gen Forum page. Mentions brother-in-law, Marion GUDGEL and step-sons, Clarence and Owen GUDGEL. Thought this may be helpful to someone. Linda ******************************************** The stories handed down from generation to generation are truly the fiber which shapes the family. Below are bits and pieces I've gotten from members of the Stephen and Rebecca Valentine family. Many have been handed from one cousin, to the next, to the next, so I am not certain WHERE they initially came from. I'm sorry I cannot give proper credit for each glimpse we are given here. ~ Ann ~ Samuel and Marion and William Per Edmunds family history (author unknown): In 1862-64, during the Civil War, Samuel Preston Valentine served as a private in the 91st Co. B., Illinois Volunteers. He left with his brothers-in-law, William Marsden and Marion Gudgel. They left with much fanfare on the ferry the local farmers had contracted to move their grain and supplies across the Mississippi River. Their first assignment as Union Infantry turned into a disaster. They were told to guard a train, the Louisville and Nashville Railroad.They fought General John H. Morgan, being scattered they were easy prey to the experienced troops. Captured and paroled to Benton Barracks, Marion Gudgel and Samuel fell ill during their six month imprisonment. Marion was medically discharged and they told Marion that he might do better to stay and die there and save his family the expense of a burial. He became very angry at that and walked all the way home to Illinois, begging food along the way. He lived for 24 years after that. The country had a severe drought and grasshopper attack in the years previous. In 1872, Samuel, with other relatives, went to settle in Nebraska. The Union Pacific Railroad was advertising free land and the Homestead Act had been signed and went into effect in 1863. In the Spring of 1871/2, the group of travelers came to Gresham, Nebraska and filed for homestead rights. The hardships of trying to eke a living from the land, fighting weather and crop failures, the lack of wood, for no trees grew on the grassy plain, all made for hard living. The invention of the cold steel plow helped farmers cut through the thick sod and allowed them to construct homes made of sod. The railroad came to Gresham and it was a busy shipping center. The town grew and people prospered from 1880 until 1925. Another drought and then the depression caused many young people to leave and seek employment elsewhere. The town of Gresham is little more than a village today. After Samuel's death, Hannah Edmunds Valentine received a Civil War Pension until her death. Both Samuel and Hannah Edmunds Valentine were big people. On his Civil War enlistment papers, he is listed as 5'11" tall, with blue eyes and red curly hair. Hannah's pictures show her as almost as wide as she is tall. I believe this account MAY have been written by a lady named Florence Petta. I am not certain, but if she or anyone who knows the source will write me, I would like to be able to add the author's name to this. ~Ann ~ MARION FULLER, SON OF ELIZA VALENTINE FULLER, GRANDSON OF STEPHEN AND MARY REBECCA OBITUARY ... Marion Fuller, 96, who had lived in Nebraska since he was 15 years of age, passed away early Monday morning at the home of his daughter, Mrs. Alfred Robson, near Thayer. He had been bed-fast since last April 18. Mr. Fuller was born May 15, 1857 at Galesburg, Illinois. After coming to Nebraska with his parents, he resided on farms in Polk County. His farm, until his retirement in 1951, to Gresham, was north and west of that village. He was a member of the Masonic Order for 75 years and was within eight days of being the oldest living Mason in Nebraska. He also held membership in the Odd Fellows, Rebekahs, and Woodmen of the World. Surviving are two sons, Thomas A., Harrison, Ark., and Floyd C., Alberta, Canada; two daughters, Mrs. Vinus Robson and Mrs. Lucy A. Barton, San Jose, California. Four grandchildren, seven great-grandchildren. Mrs. Fuller died three years ago. Funeral services were held Wednesday at 2:00 at the Gresham Presbyterian Church, the Rev. Wayne Porter officiating. There was a Masonic service. Burial was in Blue Ridge Cemetery at Gresham. >From the Gresham Gazette newspaper (Gresham, Nebraska) ARTHUR PRESCOTT VALENTINE son of SAMUEL PRESTON VALENTINE, GRANDSON OF STEPHEN VALENTINE OBITUARY ... 12/14/1934 Gresham Gazette. Arthur P. Valentine was born at Terre Haute, Illinois, September 26, 1869. His parents moved to Nebraska in the Spring of 1871 and settled on a homestead one mile north of Gresham, and here Mr. Valentine grew to manhood. On January 15, 1900, he was united in marriasge with Mrs. Estella Gudgel of Gresham, and to this union were born four children. About 20 years ago Mr. and Mrs. Valentine, together with their young family, united in fellowship with the United Brethren Church in Gresham. Since their removal in 1926 to the farm northwest of McCool (Junction, Nebraska), and the disbanding of the congregation at Gresham, they have not transferred their church relationship, though still keeping the faith of our Lord. A loving and faithful husband and father, with the same thought and concern for both children and step-children alike, as well as fair and considerate in his dealings with all, he will be greatly missed by his own loved ones and by his neighbors. Mr. Valentine had been in failing health for some time, and the end came somewhat suddenly at his home near McCool on Wednesday, December 5, 1934, at the age of 65 years, 2 months, and 10 days. He leaves to mourn his passing his wife, three sons, Arthur Jr. and Harlan, both at home; Lester, of Canton, Ohio, and a daughter, Mrs. Hazel Wingerter, also of Canton; two step-sons, Clarence Gudgel of Ravenna (Nebraksa) and Owen Gudgel of Long Valley, South Dakota. Also survivng are a brother, H.E. Valentine of Gresham, and five grandchildren, besides other relatives. Two brothers and one sister preceded him in death. Funeral services were held at the family home on Sunday afternoon, followed by services in the Methodist Church in Gresham. Rev. J. H. Stitt of Fairmont and Rev. A. C. Monkman of Gresham officiating. Internment was made in teh cemetery at Gresham. HENRY ELLSWORTH VALENTINE, son of SAMUEL PRESTON VALENTINE, grandson of STEPHEN VALENTINE OBITUARY ... Gresham Gazette, 10/3/1941: Henry Ellsworth Valentine was born near Terre Haute, in Henderson County, Illinois, July 5, 1861, and passed away September 24, 1941 at the age of 80 years, 2 months, and 10 days. In the Spring of 1871, at the age of 10 years, he came with his parents to Nebraska and settled on a homestead one mile north of the present site of Gresham. Here he went through many hardwhips as well as the many joys of early pioneer days. On April 12, 1883 he was married to Addie Evelyn Roe, and to this union there were born two children, Bessie May who passed away at the age of 21 months, and George Prescott who now resides in Lincoln. Their mother died May 5, 1889. On September 29, 1890 he marrried Rhoda Anna Garner, and to this union were born three children, Lawrence of McCool (Junction, Nebraska); Mrs. Inez Adkisson of York (Nebraska); Mrs. Edith Marvel of Gresham (Nebraska). Their mother passed away on November 13, 1938. He was an active member of the Gresham United Brethren Church for many years, until it was disbanded. On Easter Sunday, 1939, he placed his membership in the United Brethren Church in York. He leaves to mourn his passing the four children, George, Lawrence, Inez, and Edity, 20 grandchildren, and 3 great-grandchildren, besides other relatives and many friends. He was the last survivor of his own family. For over 50 years he was a member of the W.O.W. (Woodmen of the World) and was a charter member of Camp No. 2. Funeral services were held at the United Brethren Church in York, Rev. G.T. Savery in charge, Saturday, September, 27th, and the body was interred in Cedar Lawn Cemetery, Gresham. A quartette, Mrs. R. L. Thompson, Mrs. Calmer Stephenson, Messers Arthur and William Walford with Mrs. Melvin Dey at the piano, furnished appropriate music and six grandsons served as pallbearers. Additional Note: Per an Edmunds family genealogy, Henry was the official brick mason for the town of Gresham, Nebraska, and many of the remaining sidewalks in the village have his name on them. From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Relatives Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 22:10:38 -0400 A couple drove several miles down a road, not saying a word. An earlier discussion had led to an argument, and neither wanted to concede their position. As they passed a barnyard of mules and pigs, the husband sarcastically asked, "Relatives of yours?" "Yep," the wife replied, "in-laws." From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: History of Redstone Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 22:16:24 -0400 Mia- Thanks for sharing the article about the History of Redstone. I really enjoyed it. I sure wish we could get a break on these GUDGEL's in the early days of Pennsylvania. Linda From: Bob Gudgel Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Gottschalks again I just went to the "about Gottschalks" part of the web site and it was an Emil Gottschalk that immigrated to the US from Germany. Nevermind I guess. boB Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:05:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Gudgel Subject: Gottschalks Dept. store I received some junk mail yesterday from a place in Fresno California (I think) called Gottshalks. It's a place that sells (womens) clothing. I just looked them up on altavista and they have a web site. http://www.gottschalks.com/ I now have a Gottschalks kind of credit card and sticker. Hmmmm....... boB From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: New GUDGEL researcher Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 23:35:22 -0400 I received a message on the Family.com page today from a Rita Nicholas. Rita is looking for information on her husband's father's aunt and uncle. She says: Harold GUDGEL married Ada Letsinger. Ada born 1888 Newton, IL, d. 1969 Evansville, IN. Ada and Harold came to Crawfordsville, IN and ran a gas station for a short time. That's all she knows. Anyone recognize these names? Linda From: "Nancy Miller" To: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" , Subject: Re: New GUDGEL researcher Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 21:53:20 -0700 I have a Harold Owen Gudgel, born 14 Jul 1888, Cynthiana, Posey Co., IN, in my data base, but I do not have a marriage for him. He was in the Posey Co. birth records and his parents were James Edward Gudgel, Dr. (1858-1938) and Elizabeth T. "Lizzie" Smith (1863-1919). This is the only Harold I have. If she thinks this might be her man, I can give his ancestry back to "Old Andrew". According to Turman's book, he died in 1947. Nancy Teel Miller -----Original Message----- From: Linda Gudgel Finnell To: Gudgel List Date: Friday, August 11, 2000 8:37 PM Subject: New GUDGEL researcher >I received a message on the Family.com page today from a Rita Nicholas. >Rita is looking for information on her husband's father's aunt and uncle. > >She says: >Harold GUDGEL married Ada Letsinger. Ada born 1888 Newton, IL, d. 1969 >Evansville, IN. Ada and Harold came to Crawfordsville, IN and ran a gas >station for a short time. That's all she knows. > >Anyone recognize these names? >Linda > > From: "Nancy Miller" Cc: Subject: Fw: Gudgel Family Connection Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 12:37:54 -0700 Listers, This is a response to the letter I wrote to the person that had a query in the Gibson County Lines newsletter. Perhaps Bob could send her the information about how to join the Gudgel list and the information about the archives. He also may have more computer knowledge that would help her send her information via e-mail. I was not able to open her attachments - they came out all squares! Nancy Teel Miller -----Original Message----- From: Juanita Diorio To: Nancy Teel Miller Date: Saturday, August 12, 2000 12:07 PM Subject: Gudgel Family Connection >Dear Nancy, > >How nice to hear from you! I'm sorry for the delay in answering. My nephew has been >visiting. > >I am indeed a descendant of Abraham Gudgel and Elizabeth Weed. I will be mailing you some >Gudgel information that I have. It shows my connection in a Direct Descendant chart. >I'll also enclose my complete Ancestor Chart as well as my Gudgel Family Group Sheet. > >I would be delighted to join the e-mail exchange of information. I don't know if you will >be able to bring up the two attachments that I'll add to this e-mail, but I'll send them. >I'll also print the sheets and send them via snail mail. > >I am new at sending genealogy by e-mail and would welcome instructions. I have MS Word, >which is where I have pasted the attachments. My Genealogy program is Family Tree Maker >7.5. I believe there is a way to send GEDCOM files, but I'm not familiar with the >method. I can also copy information onto a CD RW. What would you like from me? Is your >line from William Teel the husband of Nancy Gudgel? > >I hope to have a letter to you in the mail this afternoon. I look forward to hearing from >you again. > >Your distant cousin, > >Juanita Diorio >2628 Hazelwood Avenue >Kettering, Oh 45419 >jdiorio@voyager.net > > > > > From: DenneyRes@aol.com Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:20:22 EDT Subject: Gertrude Gudgel Recently Jim Hall asked about persons buried in Grayson Co and on the list was Gertrude died 21 Feb. 1964. Apparently she is buried alone. I do not know anything about her but I have a snapshot that on the back says, "Jack and Gertrude Gudgel and her niece." I would assume her husband's name was Jack. I have no idea where they fit in but came through Mollie Gudgel Harris' descendants. Linda Gudgel Finnell - We are coming to Wayne Co. and Pulaski Co., Kentucky in early September. If we make it up to Lexington can you tell me how to get to the Kentucky History Center so we can see "the brick?" Are there other Andrew sites nearby? We'll be going on to see our kids after this. We have never been to Kentucky and are really looking forward to it. Hope you are surviving wedding plans. Shirley Denney in Texas From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: GUDGEL CEMETERY SITES Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:46:53 -0400 Hi Folks- I found these cemetry sites on the internet. I have an idea who a couple of them are but would like some input and verification from some of you who may know more than I do (which could be easily done . ******************************************** Old Oakland Cemetery Marshall Co., OK GUDGEL, Robert E. b. December 23, 1881 d. August 20, 1901 husband of S.A. GUDGEL ******************************************** Camp Butler National Cemetery Springfield, Sangamon Co., IL GUDGEL, Charles B. b. April 26, 1925 d. June 7, 1985 T4 US Army Plot K 1617 buried June 11, 1985 GUDGEL, Virginia Lee b. April 22, 1926 d. December 21, 1991 US Navy FTMC Residence-Springfield, IL Plot K 1617 buried December 24, 1991 ********************************************* Fort Scott National Cemetery Fort Scott, Bourbon Co., KS GUDGEL, Joseph d. November 28, 1909 Infantry, Pvt., IL Plot 4 0 579 buried July 23, 1934 GUDGEL, Charles Edward b. November 14, 1913 d. May 19, 1960 1st LT 759 RY OPI BN Plot 9-132 buried May 24, 1960 ******************************************** Hope everyone is doing well. Anyone been on a research trip lately or planning one? Linda from Kentucky From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: WOODFILL & STUCKER Cemetery Sites Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:19:49 -0400 WOODFILL Graveyard Madison Township, Section 18, 4-11 1941 D.A.R. Cemetery Records STUCKER, Reason d. Apr. 29, 1853, age 42 years STUCKER, Melissa, w/o Reason, Mar. 21, 1810 - Jan. 3, 1862, age 51 years WOODFILL: John- d. Feb. 20, 1854, age 73 years William P.-d. Mar. 24, 1862, age 39 years John R.-Jan. 23, 1827 - Feb. 14, 1881 Miranda J. WILSON-w/o J.R.- Nov. 25, 1829-Sep. 14, 1896 Andrew- d. 1821 (no stone (see deed of farm). Daniel- 1758-1822 (probably buried here) no stone. Gabriel- 1758-1834 (twin of Daniel) no stone. ******************************************** Olive Branch Cemetery Jefferson Co., IN WOODFILL: William-d. June 23, 1849, age 43 years. Joseph-d. May 7, 1856, age 71 years, Louisa-d. July 19, 1860, age 58 years. Taylor- Mar. 26, 1821-Jan. 13, 1872 Sallie A., w/o Taylor Woodfill- Feb. 22, 1829-Nov. 23, 1920 Mary-Nov. 25, 1813-Jan. 6, 1874 All for now, Linda From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: Unidentified GUDGEL(L) marriages Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:06:14 -0400 Found a list of Indiana GUDGEL(L) marriages I haven't identified and hope someone can help me out here: GUDGEL, Allen and Rebecca ROBERTSON Jefferson Co., IN November 29, 1832 GUDGEL, Elizabeth and Thomas ACRE Jefferson Co., IN November 5, 1818 GUDGEL, James H. and Elizabeth HORNER Jefferson Co., IN April 12, 1832 GUDGEL, Rachel and William HILL Scott Co., IN July 21, 1833 GUDGEL, Rebecca and David W. ROWLAND (Clark Co., IN?) 1838 GUDGEL, Thornton B. and Sarah HUGHES Gibson Co., IN 1844 Anyone recognize these names? I have a feeling some of them are Daniel GUDGEL's descendants. Thanks, Linda From: "Linda Gudgel Finnell" Subject: WOODFILL & STUCKER Cemetery Sites Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 13:47:41 -0400 I'm sorry.....I goofed! These sites are in Jefferson Co., Indiana. Linda From: NancykDing@aol.com Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 16:44:45 EDT Subject: Re: Unidentified GUDGEL(L) marriages Found a list of Indiana GUDGEL(L) marriages I haven't identified and hope someone can help me out here: GUDGEL, Allen and Rebecca ROBERTSON Jefferson Co., IN November 29, 1832 GUDGEL, Elizabeth and Thomas ACRE Jefferson Co., IN November 5, 1818 GUDGEL, James H. and Elizabeth HORNER Jefferson Co., IN April 12, 1832 X{Jame Harlan GUDGEL m. Elizabeth Horner He is the son of Stephen GUDGEL & grandson of Daniel Gudgel} Nancy from Iowa GUDGEL, Rachel and William HILL Scott Co., IN July 21, 1833 GUDGEL, Rebecca and David W. ROWLAND (Clark Co., IN?) 1838 GUDGEL, Thornton B. and Sarah HUGHES Gibson Co., IN 1844 X{Thornton B GUDGEL m Sarah Huges Thorton B. GUDGEL is the son of Stephen Gudgel & grandson of Daniel GUDGEL} Nancy from Iowa Anyone recognize these names? I have a feeling some of them are Daniel GUDGEL's descendants. Thanks, Linda