Date: 09 Oct 95 11:46:25 EDT From: Sara T. Allen <72164.3606@compuserve.com> The Taos hum does not emanate from Taos. It is heard all over the US and other parts of the world. I may leave Taos and not here it in Kansas for instance, but then hear it again as I get closer to Michigan. I have had reports from virtually every state. The clusters though seem to be in the Pacific Northwest, the North Central Midwest and the Southwest. There are scattered reports from New England also. Sara E-mail from: Sara T. Allen, 09-Oct-1995 Date: 09 Dec 95 00:28:07 EST From: "Sara T. Allen" <72164.3606@compuserve.com> To: Subject: hum: More I am still receiving several inquiries per month from people all over the US who reportedly "hear" the hum. Many of them are seeking reassurance that they are NOT losing their minds. Schatzie Hubbell recently compiled the results of a questionaire she sent to people who called in to the Unsolved Mysteries program after the first airing in May. Calls were received from every state except Montana. The results of her questionaire are very interesting. There were 383 total number of phone calls following the segment. 174 of the 383 said they hear a "hum". A map plot of those 174 who report a "hum" plus 38 others who had already been plotted on Schatzie's map reveal an interesting pattern. There are clusters around Seattle, central Arizona, Southern California, North Central New Mexico and North Central Colorado, Michigan, Ohio and Indiana. Smaller clusters are situated in many of the lower 48 states. The only states which do not show at least one hearer are North Dakota, South Dakota and Minnesota. Schatzie received 137 letters from people regarding the hum (I'm not sure if they were sent directly to Schatzie or whether they were forwarded to her from Unsolved Mysteries.) She sent out 115 questionaires and received back 60. A copy of her compilation is available directly from her for just the cost of (her) copying. $3.29 per package. The report consists of 34 pages and the $3.29 is optional. She will send a report to anyone who requests one. The report also includes a short paper by Anne Silk on "BioMagnetism and Electrical Allergy". Her address is: Schatzie Hubbell 10201 Hwy. 80 W. Fort Worth, Texas 76116 Joe Mullins and Dr. Jim Kelly of UNM are publishing a synopsis of their work to date in the Acoustical Society newsletter. A copy of their article can be obtained from: Sherry Robinson, Public Affairs Department University of New Mexico 1805 Roma NE Albuquerque, NM 87131-0011 tel 505-277-5813 fax 505-277-1981 Any new hum sightings may be reported to her also. Although there is no new information in the Mullins-Kelly article there is an interesting graph of the background noise from about 1 Hz to 200 Hz (1/4 hertz bands) at the Taos Home where the UNM science team made their measurements in May of 1993. The background noise ranges from about 28 dBSPL at about 3 Hz to -20 dBSPL at 200 Hz. There is no obvious low frequency signature of an acoustic hum. The measurements were taken by a calibrated low frequency microphone specially designed by UNM's mechanical engineering department and was sensitive to -60 dBspl from 8 hz to 80 hertz. This microphone was so sensitive that it picked up gentle taps to the wall of the equipment van which was located some 75 yards away. The microphone itself was inside of a guest house bedroom which had doors and windows closed. It was rather remarkable to see the acoustic signature of a finger thumped against the side of the van being picked up INSIDE the sealed room. Needless to say I am convinced that if a low frequency acoustic signal exists we would have seen it with that microphone. Sara E-mail from: Sara T. Allen, 08-Dec-1995 Date: 18 Dec 95 13:07:35 EST From: "Sara T. Allen" <72164.3606@compuserve.com> Subject: hum: re-post of message I am re-posting this message from me to an individual about the subject of natural vs manmade hum. I originally posted this is a forum on Compuserve. There has always been a natural resonance of the planet, a hum if you wish or you may call it an OM. I am very much familiar with the natural "hum". The "hum" that emerged, first in Eugene, Oregon in 1976, reported by the late Walter Deposki and documented in the Eugene, Oregon newspapers is NOT a natural hum. I first became aware of it's precense in the spring of 1992 and it has been an annoying precense ever since. It has an unnatural timbre to it. I am a musician and this "hum" is out of tune with the natural hum of the planet. During a science investigation sponsored by the University of New Mexico in late May 1993, I was priveleged to work with some very talented technicians and engineers. We used a vast array of sensoring equipment to attempt to locate a source for the hum. None of our sensors were able to pick up an anamolous signal. One early morning, about 2 am, the team gathered for an informal chat and it was during that time that several of the team members said that it was time they brushed up on their Tesla Technology. That piqued my interest in Tesla and during the following year I became fascinated with how much Tesla accomplished and how little the public actually knew about the man. As my research continued I dug out paper after paper, document after document, technical brief after technical brief, until I could no longer deny that not only does the technology exist to control the weather, peoples minds, cause earthquakes and other "natural" disasters, but the technology has moved far beyond the experimental stage and is actually being implemented not only by the US and our allys, but by our "enemies" as well. There is a covert electronic war going on under our noses every day. The effects of the devices they are using are not beneficial to the health and well being of the human population of earth. I am very much familiar with OM and this hum penetrates the very ether where OM resides and threatens the abode of our very souls. Please read the book "Angels don't play this HAARP" about the High frequency Active Auroral Research Project going on right now in Alaska. Find out why our government wants to beam a BILLION watt high frequency signal modulated with near alpha wave ELF information. Find out why they want to cause runaway ionospheric heating. They have the money and the toys to virtually destroy our planet. You may say to yourself that they are not that stupid. Let me remind you that just before they exploded the first atomic bomb in the New Mexico desert in 1945, the scientists were still betting amongst themselves on whether or not the chain reaction would ignite the atmosphere of the planet and sterilize earth of all living things. They exploded the bomb even though they did not know for sure that they weren't destroying the planet. They contiune to play that same game. If you want absolute proof I can't give that to you yet. But I know, as a human, as a spiritual being, as an aware being, that the "hum" that began in 1976 in Eugene, Oregon, and has now been reported worldwide is not a natural hum. Sara T. Allen E-mail from: Sara T. Allen, 18-Dec-1995 Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 19:58:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sara T. Allen" <72164.3606@compuserve.com> To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Taos hum 3/13/96 NOTICE: I originally attempted to post this on March 13. I am trying again. Post of March 13 follows: I have been reading some of the posts concerning a recent hum increase. Someone described it as having an urgent quality. I don't want to put ideas into any ones head but I have noticed over the years that the most intense periods of hum activity occur during periods of International crises or military activity. I have correlated this to many incidents including aircraft downings by the US and other military crises. I believe that the hum is being caused by world wide communications in the ELF and ULF ranges. If any of you have studied modern submarine tactics and strategy you will notice that for an effective submarine force to remain hidden, bothe tactically and strategically, the number of datum points must be minimized. The US (and other) government would like us to believe that we are still in the dark ages of submarine ELF communications during which a submerged sub would be alerted to an incoming message by a series of coded letters which would take an extraordinay amount of time to be transmitted and received. The coding would indicate what action the sub should take such as approaching the surface and deploying a long wire antenna to receive radio traffic. As Anti Submarine Warfare technology became more sophisticated, it was realized that to remain hidden, a submarine should not come anywhere near the surface as this would give OpFor (opposing forces) a datum point. Every time the sub came near the surface it's location could be plotted by the use of very sophisticated ASW tools such as satellite born synthetic aperture radar which penetrates the ocean to some considerable depth. Several datum points would give away a submarines patrol area and OpFor ASW could be concentrated in that area to reduce the effectivness of the sub. As time went on it became imperative that a method of real time communications be developed for deep submergence communications. A 24 hour a day modem connection for the transference of real time data. A modern sub commander must know what is going on AT ALL TIMES in the real world. Gone are the days of 90 day patrols when everyone was more or less out of touch with world events. When anyone has the ability to launch nuclear weapons they CANNOT be out of communications EVER! Period! With technological advances such as Slow Frequency Hopping (which enables multiple data bits per frequency hop as applied to spread spectrum transmission which the Navy admittedly uses for ELF communications), real time data transmission became a reality. Even a 300 baud modem is capable of updating data in real time. As I have stated, it is my belief that it is this 24 hour per day ELF data link that is responsible for the hum that we in the US are aware of. Notice for yourselves when the hum increases and see if we are involved in the movement of troops or military assets anywhere in the world. That tone of URGENCY that was noticed in the hum is a repetitive feature and usually accompanies messaging of particular interest to our military assets. For instance, this weekend (I originally wrote this on March 13) and into Monday, we have been concerned about the Chinese Crisis. We are moving two Carrier Task Force groups into the area. Although not usually shown on the news, fast attack submarines accompany these task forces at all times. Also, we are still sending our fleet ballistic missle submarines out there somewhere on patrol. I have also noticed increases and decreases in the hum here in Taos. It has continued unabated 24 hours a day for the past several years. I have never heard it stop completely. There have been times when it has been extremely quiet but by finding a quiet place and tuning in to it I could determine that it was still present. Enough for now. Thanks for listening. Sara E-mail from: Sara T. Allen, 30-May-1996 From: 72164.3606@compuserve.com Date: 19 Aug 96 20:01:21 EDT To: Subject: Unidentified subject! >> A global non-acoustic component necessary for the phenomenon cannot be ruled out, but seems unlikely, or at least uninteresting. << Does a global submarine communications system capable of transmitting real time data to deeply submerged (1000 feet and deeper) submarines anywhere in the world seem uninteresting to you. If you don't think a system like this presently exists then log onto the Military Forum on CIS. Find a submariner who has served recently or is now serving in the USN and ask him about the rules concerning nuclear Ballistic missile submarines communications with the outside world. They are NEVER out of communications. Not ever!! That means when they are as deep as they can go, 24 hours a day. The US is not the only country with this capability. Sara E-mail from: , 19-Aug-1996 Date: 03 Oct 96 14:57:31 EDT From: "Sara T. Allen" <72164.3606@compuserve.com> To: Subject: Resonances Just to make myself clearer. The hum in Taos has been bad all summer, the spring before that, the winter before that, the fall before that, the summer before that. It gets more intense whenever there is military activity. I once noticed an increase in the hum two days before the military activity was announced. The military had been activiated two days before the announcement correlating to the time I had noticed the increase in hum and "modulation" of the hum. Sara E-mail from: Sara T. Allen, 03-Oct-1996 Date: 29 Jan 97 10:06:20 EST From: "Sara T. Allen" <72164.3606@compuserve.com> To: Taos Hum List Subject: Hum confirmed in Florida. Hi Everyone, I just retrurned from a trip to the West Coast of Florida. I spent a week on an island south of St. Petersburg and Northwest of Sarasota, Florida. I experienced the Taos Hum there. My description of it is the same as my description from Taos. I was fortunate to be staying at a place that had very little ambient noise. The weather being cool meant that air conditioners were off but heat was not required at night. The result was a very quiet environment. The Hum in the part of Florida is the SAME as it is here in Taos. This is a confirmed sighting of the Hum in Florida. Sara Allen, Taos, NM E-mail from: Sara T. Allen, 29-Jan-1997 Date: 30 Jan 97 01:56:53 EST From: "Sara T. Allen" <72164.3606@compuserve.com> To: Taos Hum List Subject: Reposting this a third time. It looks like the first two times I tried to post this to the list never happened. At least I never received my copy of it back from the list. I am trying again on January 28. This post contains instructions on how to simulate the hum using three audio generators. Hi everyone, Yes, I am still monitoring this newsletter. I am Sara Allen. I would like to comment on the following as well as the gist of most of the postings here. First, read this ( yes, again please.) >There might be two possibilities, I think, for a non-hearer to listen to >what sounds like the Taos Hum. Record a tape in a rest area where there are >big-rigs idling, bring it home and play it concurrently with the WAV so that >the "diesel" sound is perceived about twice as loud as the WAV sounds. By >far the closest match to the complete hum that I have heard still is the >simulation created and recorded by Sara Allen which was played a few times >on "Sightings" and "Unsolved Mysteries" in 1995. This hum is unmistakable, >and I was able to identify instantly that what I was hearing sounded very >much like Sara's Hum. I think Sara reads this newsletter, and she and Bill >both probably have a copy of the simulated hum she created. Perhaps Bill >could create a WAV of Sara's hum for those who missed it on television. > >As far as the tornado noise is concerned, it is an interesting concept. >However, tornadoes are basically seasonal, or at least sporadic. How, then, >would one account for the constancy of the hum? > > >Judy K >El Dorado, CA >38.663N-120.872W >judycole@spider.lloyd.com What Judy says is entirely accurate. The Taos Hum as I have experienced it is NOT an intermittent phenomenon. It is constant, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year and only varies in intensity and "urgency" (for lack of a better word.) There is nothing that would create the type of industrial noise which is being discussed on this newsletter for at least a hundred miles around. Military flights exist but are intermittent. Our tornado season is in the spring and summer. The hum is usually masked by the doppler sound of an approaching aircraft. I can hear it when the power grid is energized and when we experience wide spread and long term (several hours) blackouts. I cannot blame 60 Hz Alternating current. In a few words, most of the interesting possibilities discussed on this newsletter DO NOT explain the 24 hours a day, 365 days a year presence of the hum!! The simulation that I created can be duplicated by anyone with access to three audio generators. One generator is set to 32 Hz. The other two are set to 64 Hz. and zero beat as close as possible. The two 64 Hz signals should not be exactly zero beat but should waver ever so slightly. To one of the 64 Hz signals, a small amount of Frequency Modulation should be added. Record the resultant composite signal at -10 dbm to + 10 dbm, (depending on the sensitivity of your recording instrument.) I used an instrumentation audio DAT recorder. To play it back, use a high quality hi fi system. It does not need to be stereo, and if you have a mono stereo select, select mono mode. A system that will reproduce low frequencies is preferred. Set the volume level so that you can hear the hum loudly, then reduce the volume level until the hum is at the threshold of your perception. That is what the phenomenon sounds like. Individuals who I have demonstrated this SIMULATION to have then been able to perceive the phenomenon after the simulation is turned off. Some of the comments I heard from them have indicated that they had no idea what the threshold of their perception was. Many had already been aware of the phenomenon but explained it away by rationalizing to themselves that it was a neigbors truck, their own refrigerator, passing highway traffic, an air conditioner running etc. Once they became aware of the phenomenon they then realized that their neighbors tractor wasn't idling off in a field at 3 AM every night, and that their refrigerators were actually working properly and actually turning off and on as they are supposed to do. I noticed that during the middle of a blizzard in the middle of the night when NOTHING on the high ways were moving, including snow plows, that the HUM was still there. Once again, I must state that I feel the hum is an artificially caused phenomenon with indicators that point to a military-government connection. Information that I have been privy to, support this theory. The hum continues unabated in Taos, New Mexico. Today is the 11 of December, 1996. Last week, there were several days when the hum was very intense. Today it is at it's normal moderate level. Thanks for reading and regarding my input. Sara T. Allen, Taos, NM E-mail from: Sara T. Allen, 29-Jan-1997 Date: 30 Jan 97 01:57:00 EST From: "Sara T. Allen" <72164.3606@compuserve.com> To: Taos Hum List Subject: Reply to confirmed sighting Hi again, Joni, yes I was near Longboat Key, actually on Ana Maria. No, I am not surprised to hear it in Florida. I have heard it other places such as New York, New Jersey and Washington State as well as the general area of Taos, NM. The importance of the Florida sighting is that I have 100% confidence in the sighting because of the quiet environment. In all of the other places, except for the area around Taos, I feel that the sightings were compromised by the background acoustic noise. More to the point, the hum is identical in Florida as it is in Taos to MY perception of it. This widens my base of data from which I form ideas, theories and possibilities. To Thomas, I have counted my pulse and compared it to the hum. It is interesting that the hum pulses at almost a constant 59 to 65 HZ. It does not match my heart beat. At one time I thought that I was hearing the blood pulsing in my head. My pulse at rest is about 62. The hum pulse always varies and is out of sync with my pulse. The first 20 or so beats seem to be in sync then slide out of sync. It reminds me of the windshield wiper that almost matches the rhythm of the song on the radio. The metronome seems accurate for several bars, then the rythmic difference becomes apparent. I also sense a modulation within the pulse. If you haven't yet read my original post from several years ago, a copy exists on this web page in the FAQ section. Sara Allen, Taos, NM E-mail from: Sara T. Allen, 29-Jan-1997 Date: 03 Feb 97 23:09:25 EST From: "Sara T. Allen" <72164.3606@compuserve.com> To: Taos Hum List Subject: Hum and magnetism >> I havent been able to get any hum hearer into a steel box. I havent found a suitable steel box either. It would have to be a portable box. << Now is a good time to tell you about my experience in the steel box specially made for the Fox TV show "Sightings". The producer of the program had a steel box large enough for one or two persons to be sealed inside. I was the lucky one to be selected to be inside. The first time we tried the experiment, I found there to be too much outside noise to be able to report reliably on the prescense of the hum inside the box. After several tries, the box was placed inside of a sealed garage and the door to the box was sealed with aluminum foil. The radio frequency reception inside the box was greatly attenuated. I had a portable TV and radio inside with me. After turning off all electricity to the garage and instructing the observers to go outside of the garage, I settled down to some hum research. My conclusion is that there was NO attenuation of the hum inside the steel box. A few of the problems we had with the box were; 1- finding a way to suitably seal the access door, and 2- Every sound made outside the box was amplified on the inside. For example, a neigbor was running a floor sander 200 yards away. Outside of the box, the sound was not so bad, but inside the box, it sounded like he was sanding right outside of the box. I made some inquiries about how expensive it would be to construct a mu-metal box. The answer I got was about $20K to 30K. Mu-metal is very expensive and fabricating it is a specialized field. It is not something you could properly put together in your back yard. BTW, the first actual media report that I have seen of the hum was made by Walter Deposki of Eugene, OR in 1976. Mr. Deposki has since passed away. The newspaper was the local Eugene, OR paper. I can't recall its name. I think it was the Reporter. Some pretty interesting research took place by scientists from the University near Eugene. That, and some triangulation by some ham radio operators revealed that the source was somewhere in Northwestern Russia. Sara E-mail from: Sara T. Allen, 03-Feb-1997 Date: 03 Feb 97 23:09:27 EST From: "Sara T. Allen" <72164.3606@compuserve.com> To: Taos Hum List Subject: Re: Radar & Hum? > I recently saw an article that mentioned a Naval Research Center here in > New Mexico that uses radio waves to communicate with nuclear submarines. > The article claimed that they transmit "ultra long frequency waves" that > go right through the earth. Does anyone know anything about this? I > don't understand "ultra long frequency" because in my mind frequency is > either high or low but wave lengths are short or long. Vance, Yes, I understand how this system works. I do not know the location of this site, but I have long suspected it is nearby us. (We are in Taos). I was approached a couple years ago by a scientist from Los Alamos who told me that he had seen the equipment both land based and submarine based and that the Navy is quite proud of this achievement. He also told me "that they never thought there would be a problem that humans could sense it." He also indicated that "they" didn't know what to do about it. I have this persons resume and they seem to me to be quite credible. I don't wish to reveal his identity however. The theory of submarine communications and the necessity thereof goes something like this.... A Fleet Ballistic Missle submarine is on patrol somewhere off of the coast of China. It is in very deep water, submerged to a depth of greater than 1,000 feet. Overhead, Russian and Chinese naval vessels are patrolling. They have no contact with the submarine and can only guess at its prescense. Also overhead are Chinese and Russian satellite assets. On board the satellites are synthetic aperature radar systems which can very effectively look below the surface of the ocean to a depth of , oh, maybe 500 feet. There is a crisis brewing on the Iran Iraq border and the Pentagon needs to get a message to our submerged FBM. The OLD way of doing this was to send out a coded three character message using the 76 HZ ELF system. The coded message would tell the submarine to come nearer the surface at a certain time to receive high frequency radio traffic. When the FBM ascends to a shallower depth, the chances of its prescence being picked up by opposing forces Anti Submarine Warfae assets is GREATLY increased. In addition, the synthetic aperature radar aboard the satellite assets could also SEE the sub. This in effect provides the OPFOR with a DATUM point. The "enemy" could then focus its ASW efforts on a particular area thus putting our FBM in danger of revealing its position and patrol area. That was the OLD way. The NEW way is much better. The submarine can stay as deep as it wants to. The Pentagon can use the Ultra Low (read Long) Frequency, or ULF equipment to send a real time data link to the FBM. Yes, it is much slower than the 33.3 KBS modems we are accustomed to. It does the job, and does it well. The link is in operation 24 hours per day, 365 days a year. A submarine carrying nuclear weapons is NEVER out of contact with its headquarters. I repeat NEVER! Its mission is to remain UNDETECTED. If you saw the movie "Crimson Tide", the whole plot was based on a misconception that the OLD way of submarine communications is still in effect. That is what they would like us to believe. By eaves dropping on some forum messages in the MILFORUM on Compuserve, I was convinced that any military asset that is carrying a nuclear device is NEVER out of communications. The system is both necessary and simple, though very high tech. The ability to send data via ULF is well within our technology. A worldwide real time data link, or "subspace" internet, if you will, does now exist. Unfortunately, some of us, myself included, are sensitive to this type of energy. It presents itself to our brains as a pulsating idling diesel truck just at the threshold of hearing. I can only theorize on the mechanism of the stimulus on our electro-chemical systems of our human bodies. I suspect, though, that it is acting on the calcium ions within our bodies, most probably on the sense of hearing, triggering our sense of hearing to a "ghost" image of a sound. Sara E-mail from: Sara T. Allen, 03-Feb-1997 Date: 04 Feb 97 22:57:13 EST From: "Sara T. Allen" <72164.3606@compuserve.com> To: Taos Hum List Subject: Re: Comments on last few months postings > It is quite normal for me to get an increase in T/H every single time I > get into a vehicle. When I stop the vehicle and get out the T/H is very > very strong. On walking away from the vehicle a few short steps: the T/H > stops like some one pulled the plug. Some times is a few feet from the > vehicle; sometimes it quite large like 20 - 30 meters away before > the T/H stops and goes off or drops back to a very low level. This > happens every time I get in/out of a vehicle. Either way I hear it at > the traffic lights an at minor stopping positions. Truthful FACT. I have also experienced this feature of the hum. I have never had the hum stop completely although I have noticed that it does drop in intensity as you state from a few feet to several meters from the vehicle. I have tested this feature of the hum while driving on secluded mountain roads where I was the only vehicle for miles around. I have also noticed a certain feature of the hum and the approach of high altitude jet aircraft. I was high in the mountains on snowshoes in a snow fall. The environment was extremely quiet with the new fallen snow. The hum was very apparent. I puposefully sensed it for quite some time focusing on the pattern of pulsations and the similarity of the idling diesel truck signature. All of a sudden the hum decreased remarkably, a second later I became aware of the very faint sound of an approaching jet aircraft which entirely masked the hum for the duration of its pass. As the jet passed from my hearing, the hum grew to its original intensity. I believe that the low frequency doppler effect of the approaching jet began to mask the hum before I could physically identify the sound of the approaching jet. I have repeated this observational experiment several times with the same results. The hum also intensifies (for me) in closet, bathroom size rooms. Whenever I am too bothered by the prescense of the hum, I run a small fan which provides a masking effect. Sometimes, though, I would rather have the hum than the white noise of the fan. Sara E-mail from: Sara T. Allen, 04-Feb-1997 Date: 06 Feb 97 23:50:38 EST From: "Sara T. Allen" <72164.3606@compuserve.com> To: Taos Hum List Subject: Re: Hum measured in Taos > That is very interesting. Maybe the problem is that the UNM guys don't > believe that humans can hear anything with that low of frequency. Did > you ask why they reported that they didn't detect anything? I am going to have to speak with Horace about this. I was looking at the spectrum analyzer for several hours and never saw anything at those frequencies even at 20 dbSPL! We even ran some time versus spectrum analysis to see if we could detect a noise peak, but no we couldn't. I will get a copy of that report myself and see where those 20 dbSPL figures came from and what they are based on. It is strange though that they are included in your report. Sara E-mail from: Sara T. Allen, 06-Feb-1997 Date: 10 Feb 97 18:21:49 EST From: "Sara T. Allen" <72164.3606@compuserve.com> To: Taos Hum list serve Subject: Hum and gamma rays > Some UFO researchers think there is some correlations between some > kind of piezoelectricity or piezomagnetism (magnetostriction?) in > rocks, and the frequency of UFO sightings. (UFO-sightings are quite > likely linked to A-waves.) James Garner (not the actor) of Albuquerque New Mexico has constructed a hum detector based on a piezo electric sensor. The recording he made of the hum, which I have heard is incredibly accurate and if verified experimentally could prove to be the first actual recording of the actual hum which is not a simulation (such as my simulation.) Sara E-mail from: Sara T. Allen, 10-Feb-1997 Date: 10 Feb 97 18:50:04 EST From: "Sara T. Allen" <72164.3606@compuserve.com> To: Taos Hum list serve Subject: Scalar fields - Honeywell Patent Numbers List of patents by Raymond C. Gelinas but assigned to Honeywell: (note that a Vector Potential is a scalar field) 4,429,280, 31 Jan 1984, Apparatus and Method for Demodulation of a Modulated Curl-Free Magnetic Vector Potential. 4,429,288, 31 Jan 1984, Apparatus and Method for Modulation of a Curl-Free Magnetic Vector Potential Field. 4,432,098, 14 Feb 1984, Apparatus and Method for Transfer of Information by Means of a Curl-Free Magnetic Vector Potential Field. 4,447,779, 8 May 1984, Apparatus and Method for Determination of a Receiving Device Utilizing a Curl-Free Magnetic Vector Potential Field. 4,605,897, 12 Aug 1986, Apparatus and Method for Distance Determination Between a Receiving Device and a Transmitting Device Utilizing a Curl-Free Magnetic Vector Potential Field. 4,491,795, 1 Jan 1985, Josephson Junction Interferometer Device for Detection of Curl-Free Magnetic Vector Potential Fields. Also, you can find a good article in Scientific American of April 1989, pp. 56-62, "Quantum Interference and the Aharonov-Bohm Effect" by Yoseph Imry & Richard Webb. Thanks Sara E-mail from: Sara T. Allen, 10-Feb-1997