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One night in the spring of 2008 a young man named Dan, who
had lived in
"Dan", said Kala, "I can see from the
information that you entered onto the website that you wanted to talk to me
about some things that you and your friend Thomas have been talking about
recently. I enjoyed very much the online video chat session that I had
with your friend Thomas a couple of weeks ago."
"Thomas enjoyed that session very much too", said
Dan. "If it's ok Kala, I would like to start out by filling you in on what
Thomas and I talked about last week when he got back from
"That's a great idea,
Dan",
said Kala. "Let's go ahead and get
started."
"OK", said Dan. "Last week when I got
together with Thomas, he started out by telling me that when he was in
"The conversation that
Thomas had with
Jeffrey took place at a restaurant in Los Angeles
that Thomas likes very much where one of the waitresses is a girl who Thomas
knows named Amber. Amber had told Thomas about how last summer she got
involved with a guy who was spiritually and psychologically vulnerable like
Jeffrey so Thomas asked her come over to their table and tell Jeffrey about that
relationship. Amber explained that at first she was reluctant to get too close to the guy. She was pretty
sure that it would not develop into a serious relationship so she felt kind of
guilty getting involved with him. But still she sensed that he was
reaching out to her and that he wanted to get to know her. After a while
Amber realized that even though the exchanges of spiritual energy between her
and the guy who was spiritually and psychologically vulnerable were not strong
enough for her to be able to get seriously involved with him, it seemed to him
like his relationship with Amber was serious. Looking back on the
experience Amber thinks that there was a logical basis for her to have a
relationship with the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy. He
had been exchanging spiritual energy in the past with girls who were similar to
Amber (girls with normal spiritual structures), and she had been exchanging
spiritual energy with spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guys in the
past. The spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy was transferring
to Amber the spiritual energy that he had exchanged with other girls who he knew
in the past and she was transferring to him spiritual energy that she had
exchanged in the past with other guys she knew who were spiritually and
psychologically vulnerable."
"When Amber left their
table to help some of the other customers Jeffrey commented to Thomas that he
could feel some very positive energy being exchanged between Thomas and Amber.
He asked Thomas why he had never gotten involved romantically with Amber. In answer to Jeffrey's question about
Thomas and Amber he explained to Jeffrey that most people as they are growing up
develop two types of emotions. They develop deep emotions for the people
who they are really close to emotionally, and they also develop a
"practical" set of emotions that they use when they are in situations
where they are dealing with people in their school while they are growing up or
where they are dealing with people in business types of situations when they
start their working lives. For example, a girl who is running for
homecoming queen or for a class office while in high school might develop
"practical" relationships where she merges the practical part of her
soul with her fellow students for the purpose of getting their votes in the
school election. This sort of thing also happens quite often in business
situations where a salesperson, for example, might feel that it is important for
them to form a temporary spiritual bond with their client so that they will be
able to influence the client when they need the client to do something that they
want them to do (such as when they need the client to sign a contract).
The salesperson knows how to use spiritual links to influence the client's
thinking at that important point where the client might be tempted to back out
of the deal. Then Thomas explained to Jeffrey that what he thinks is happening between him and Amber is that he
is merging the practical part of his soul with her and she is merging the
practical part of her soul with him. So even though the exchanges of
spiritual energy between Thomas and Amber are positive, those exchanges of
spiritual energy are not a good basis for developing a serious
relationship."
Dan thought for a moment and
then continued, "at this point in the conversation Jeffrey told Thomas that
he knew that salespeople were often very influential in guiding the thinking of
their customers when they were trying to sell their customers something, but he
said that he didn't really understand how salespeople work their magic."
"Thomas then explained to
Jeffrey his theory about how salespeople are able to guide the thinking of their
customer in a manner that sometimes seems to be magical. Thomas told him
he believes that salespeople will, for a short period of time, merge a part of
their soul with the soul of their customer. They merge the part of their
soul that is practical with the part of the customer's soul that is practical.
It might seem to the customer that the salesperson is reading their mind when
the customer purchases a product that they had not planned to buy when they
started talking to the salesperson. When the salesperson opens up the
practical part of their soul to the customer, they are not only guiding the
customer with what they are saying to the customer but they are also guiding the
customer in a very deep sort of a manner that they don't really understand but
that they know is effective. Then Thomas gave Jeffrey an example situation
to explain what happens when a salesperson allows their customer to use their
soul when they are trying to help the customer to make a decision. He
explained that if two individuals go into a car dealership and test drive a new
car, one of the individuals might take the car out in the country or out on the
freeway to see how fast it will go. Another person might use the car to
pick up their kids after school. When they come back and the salesperson
realizes that the test drive has helped the customer to overcome the doubts that
they originally had, the salesperson will be happy with the end result, but they
will not know where the customer went on their test drive. The difference
between a salesperson allowing a customer to test drive a car and a salesperson
allowing a customer to test drive their soul (by merging the practical part of
their soul with the practical part of the customer's soul) is that when a
salesperson lets a customer test drive a car they will have no idea where the
customer took the car. But when a salesperson lets a customer test drive
their soul, the salesperson might know at a deep subconscious level what the
customer had been thinking during the period of time when the salesperson had
merged their soul with the soul of the customer."
"Then Thomas brought up
once again the example that he had given Jeffrey about a high school girl
merging the practical part of her soul with her fellow students for the purpose
of getting votes in an election. He explained to Jeffrey that when she
does this she will notice that one of three things might happen. First,
the student might not vote for her and she will have wasted her effort in
merging the practical part of her soul with that student. Second, the student
might vote for her and her effort will not have been wasted. Third, a
spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy in her class who had previously
been a casual friend might start to think that there was a basis for him to
develop a serious relationship with her. Thomas explained to Jeffrey that
it is his belief that many spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people
only develop a practical set of emotions and that is why they might think that
there is a basis for them to develop a serious relationship with someone who is
only merging the practical part of their soul with them."
"After Thomas had explained his ideas
about spiritual energy Jeffrey told Thomas that he thought his ideas about
people communicating
subconsciously through the Collective Subconscious made sense. Jeffrey
said he thought that gaining insight into how the subconscious mind works might
help him to learn how to communicate better with other people and might help him
to get along better with other people. For example, Jeffrey told Thomas he
thought it might be useful for him to try to program his subconscious mind to
communicate to the subconscious minds of the girls who he meets in the future
that he has been misinterpreting the situation in the past and that he is sorry
if his subconscious mind is sending out signals to their subconscious minds that
are stronger than what is appropriate. Jeffrey then said that he is not
the type of person who would want to barge in on someone uninvited when they are
at home at night after a long day of work. But by Jeffrey trying to form a
strong relationship with a girl who is only merging the practical part of her
soul with him (the part of her soul that she usually only uses for work
situations), he realizes that he might be getting her to think about him more
than she would like to think about him during her free time when she is not
supposed to have to think about things that are related to work. He
realized that even though he does not verbally say things to girls that might
make them feel uncomfortable, his subconscious mind might be making suggestions
to their subconscious minds that they consider to be inappropriate due to the
fact that the girl is only merging the practical part of her soul with
him."
"Kala", continued Dan,
"after Thomas had finished telling me about the conversation that he had
with Jeffrey the previous week, I reminded Thomas that Jeffrey is not his only
friend who is spiritually and psychologically vulnerable. I reminded
Thomas that I have fought many of the same battles that Jeffrey has fought.
I told Thomas that I liked Jeffrey's idea about the importance of him realizing
that his subconscious mind is communicating with the subconscious minds of the
girls who he meets and that this below the surface communication between Jeffrey
and the girls who he meets might be making them feel uncomfortable. But
having tried personally to do variations of what Jeffrey is suggesting where his
subconscious mind tries to subconsciously apologize to the subconscious minds of
the girls who he meets for coming on too strongly, I had to tell Thomas that I
didn't think that was going to totally solve the problem. I told Thomas
that I think that Jeffrey has to go further and not only change the way that his
subconscious mind communicates with the subconscious minds of the girls who he
knows, but that Jeffrey also has to change the way that his subconscious mind
communicates with the subconscious minds of the guys who he knows."
"Thomas and I have
discussed several times before how many spiritually and psychologically
vulnerable people have been made into spiritual slaves by people who have taken
some of their spiritual energy away from them. One of the ways that people
steal spiritual energy from another person is by saying something unfair about
them or doing something unfair to them and then denying that they have done
anything wrong. Whenever a group makes a person into their spiritual slave
by treating them unfairly, the one who is the spiritual slave starts
contributing spiritual energy to the other members of the group. The ones
who dominate the spiritual slave through the years care about that person very
deeply because of what the spiritual slave does to strengthen the group, not
because they want the spiritual slave to become stronger. They might even
at times ask the spiritual slave what they need to help make them stronger.
But then the ones who asked the spiritual slave what they needed to become
stronger will make sure that the spiritual slave never receives whatever it is
that will make them stronger. At this point I reminded Thomas how he had
told Jeffrey that Thomas and Amber were only merging the practical parts of
their souls with each other and how Thomas knew that this was not a good basis
for developing a serious relationship. I then told Thomas I believe that
the guys who try to dominate spiritual slaves such as Jeffrey and myself know
for certain, just like Thomas knows for certain, that they cannot develop a
serious relationship with a girl if they are only merging the practical part of
their soul with her. I told Thomas I think that the guys who try to
dominate spiritual slaves such as Jeffrey and myself will try to make us believe
(both while communicating with us verbally and while communicating with us
subconsciously) that we will eventually be able to develop a serious
relationship with a girl who is only merging the practical part of her soul with
us. This tricks us into thinking that we are better off to continue going
down the same path that we are presently on rather than trying to make a change.
The ones who are dominating us want us to stay where we are. That is why I
believe that it is important for Jeffrey and myself to communicate to the
subconscious minds of the guys who we know that we are suspicious when they tell
us, both in verbal communication and in subconscious communication, that we will
eventually be able to develop a serious relationship with a girl who is only
merging the practical part of her soul with us."
"At this point I told
Thomas I knew that he might be thinking that while in theory it makes sense for
Jeffrey and myself to try to stop other people from overpowering us spiritually,
it will be hard for us to actually make this happen. It will be hard for
us to make this happen because the people who dominate spiritual slaves such as
Jeffrey and myself usually have more spiritual energy than we do. I told
Thomas I think that in order for people such as Jeffrey and myself to avoid
being overpowered spiritually through the Collective Subconscious by the people
who are dominating us, it is important for us to come up with a framework for
understanding (and for believing in) spiritual energy exchanges. I told
him I thought that Jeffrey and I should maybe come up with a variation of
Pascal's Wager."
Kala thought for a moment and then said, "Dan, I like
very much the variation on Pascal's Wager (Dan's Wager) that you and Thomas have
developed. Dan, did Thomas mention anything to you about a conversation
that he had on the airplane when he was going back to
"No, I don't think he did", said Dan.
"Well Dan", said Kala, "the pastor who Thomas
talked to on the airplane was headed to
Kala continued, "Dan, I am sure that you are aware that
Thomas is a bit of a skeptic when it comes to things of a spiritual nature.
When Thomas met Pastor Ron on the airplane he asked Pastor Ron how it could be possible for a person in a
church meeting to speak in tongues (to speak in a language that they have never
learned). Thomas had heard that sort of thing had happened before and he
wondered if there was a logical way to explain what was happening when people
spoke in tongues. Pastor Ron told Thomas that he thinks that we ourselves
might be the mechanism for apparently supernatural phenomenon such as when
people speak in tongues or when a sick person is delirious and they seem to be
speaking to someone who is not in the room. He believes that every person
on earth communicates subconsciously with each other by exchanging spiritual
energy through the Collective Subconscious."
"Pastor Ron told Thomas that he thinks it is possible
that when this type of spiritual event occurs someone at a meeting in their
office in Chicago might be communicating subconsciously (through the Collective
Subconscious) with a person who is speaking in tongues in a church meeting in
another city. The person in
"Then Thomas told Pastor Ron he knew that some people
believe that when we die our souls remain in the Collective Subconscious and
perform tasks such as helping people who are still living when they take part in
spiritual events such as the ones that they had been discussing. Thomas
told Pastor Ron that he thought that this would be a very cold and a very
limited sort of an afterlife. In answer to his comment, Pastor Ron explained to Thomas that
spiritual energy travels between us and other people so quickly that we are not
consciously aware of it. For this reason, it seems to us that the
spiritual world is limited and non-fulfilling because we can only sense, or can
only see, the spiritual world in a very limited sort of a way. Pastor Ron
believes that the spiritual things below the surface that we cannot see are
probably very rich and very fulfilling."
"Dan", continued Kala,
"after Thomas told me about his conversation with Pastor Ron, I told him
that I very much liked Pastor Ron's ideas about the afterlife. But I also
told him that I think that there are a lot of pastors and other church people in
your country who would challenge the idea that there might be an afterlife where
there is no Hell. You mentioned earlier how it is very difficult for
people who are spiritual slaves to break free of their spiritual bondage.
It is very difficult because the people who have made them into their spiritual
slaves do not want to lose the extra spiritual energy that they receive when a
spiritual slave is forced to give some of their spiritual energy to the other
members of the group. Dan, if you asked twenty people if they believe that
spiritual slavery is old fashioned and that no one should be forced to give
their spiritual energy to other people, you would probably get many different
opinions. One person might say, 'yes, it is time for mankind to move
onward in its evolution and stop the old fashioned spiritual practice of robbing
Peter to pay Paul (taking one person's spiritual energy and giving it to other
people).' But another person might say, 'wait a minute. Let's be
realistic. If it is true that we have been taking spiritual energy from
the people who we have made into spiritual slaves and that we have been giving
that spiritual energy to the other members of society, and if we suddenly start
to give those people an even break and start to treat them equally, then we are
going to have a problem on our hands. It is true that the people who are
spiritual slaves would probably enjoy the feeling they would get if they started
to take back some of the spiritual energy that they had been forced to give to
other people. But you cannot expect that the people who have benefitted
from stealing spiritual energy from other people are going to feel good about
having to give that spiritual energy back.' In my opinion, Dan, there is a
reason why many pastors and other church people continue holding on to the idea
that there is a Hell. I think they know that the myth of a physical place
called Hell is not real, but they know that the spiritual slaves who have been
forced to give up some of their spiritual energy for the benefit of the group
are living in a type of living Hell where they do not have the amounts of
spiritual energy that are necessary to compete in this world. I am not
saying that the people in the church are the only ones who use other people as
spiritual slaves. That would be very unfair, and it would be unfair to
claim that all church people believe that it is ok to use other people as
spiritual slaves. But I do think that there are a lot of people in
the church today who feel that the only way to keep the myth of Hell alive is by
continuing to force some individuals to endure suffering in their roles as
spiritual slaves where they must give up some of their spiritual energy
for the benefit of the group. How can the skeptics continue to claim that
there is no Hell when all of us see people everyday in our
own cities who are living
in a type of spiritual Hell?"
"Dan",
continued Kala, "in my opinion it is important for spiritually and
psychologically vulnerable people such as Jeffrey and yourself to somehow try to
program your subconscious minds to do a few different things. Like you
mentioned earlier, it might be a good idea for you to subconsciously apologize
to the subconscious minds of the girls who you meet for coming on too strongly
to the practical parts of their souls. I also think that you should try to
subconsciously communicate to the subconscious minds of the guys who have been
dominating you through the years that because you have chosen (with your variation of Pascal's Wager) to
believe deep down in your heart that people exchange spiritual energy with each
other through the Collective Subconscious, it will not be as easy for them to
overpower you spiritually in the future as it has been in the past."
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One night in the spring of 2008 a young
man named Dan, who had lived in
"Sure, Dan", said Thomas, "I'm very interested
in hearing about what you and Kala talked about. When I did my online
video chat session with Kala when I was in
"OK, Thomas", said Dan. "Let's go ahead
and get started then." (Dan, Thomas and Kala are people who are real
for the purposes of this story but who are not real in real life).
"First of all" said Dan, "I told Kala about
how when you were in
"Then I explained to Kala
that the conversation you had with Jeffrey took place at a restaurant in
"When Amber left your table
to help some of the other customers Jeffrey commented to you that he could feel
some very positive energy being exchanged between you and Amber. He asked
you why you had never gotten involved romantically with Amber. In
answer to Jeffrey's question about you and Amber you explained to Jeffrey that
most people as they are growing up develop two types of emotions. They
develop deep emotions for the people who they are really close to emotionally,
and they also develop a "practical" set of emotions that they use when
they are in situations where they are dealing with people in their school while
they are growing up or where they are dealing with people in business types of
situations when they start their working lives. For example, a girl who is
running for homecoming queen or for a class office while in high school might
develop "practical" relationships where she merges the practical part
of her soul with her fellow students for the purpose of getting their votes in
the school election. This sort of thing also happens
quite often in business situations where a salesperson, for example, might feel
that it is important for them to form a temporary spiritual bond with their
client so that they will be able to influence the client when they need the
client to do something that they want them to do (such as when they need the
client to sign a contract). The salesperson knows how to use spiritual
links to influence the client's thinking at that important point where the
client might be tempted to back out of the deal. Then you explained to
Jeffrey that what
you thought was happening between you and Amber was that you were merging the
practical part of your soul with her and she was merging the practical part of
her soul with you. So even though the exchanges of spiritual energy
between you and Amber were positive, those exchanges of spiritual energy are not
a good basis for developing a serious relationship."
"At this point, Thomas, I told Kala
that after you had explained your ideas about spiritual energy, Jeffrey told you
that he thought your ideas about people communicating
subconsciously through the Collective Subconscious made sense. Jeffrey
said he thought that gaining insight into how the subconscious mind works might
help him to learn how to communicate better with other people and might help him
to get along better with other people. For example, Jeffrey told you he
thought it might be useful for him to try to program his subconscious mind to
communicate to the subconscious minds of the girls who he meets in the future
that he has been misinterpreting the situation in the past and that he is sorry
if his subconscious mind is sending out signals to their subconscious minds that
are stronger than what is appropriate. Jeffrey then said that he is not
the type of person who would want to barge in on someone uninvited when they are
at home at night after a long day of work. But by Jeffrey trying to form a
strong relationship with a girl who is only merging the practical part of her
soul with him (the part of her soul that she usually only uses for work
situations), he realizes that he might be getting her to think about him more
than she would like to think about him during her free time when she is not
supposed to have to think about things that are related to work. He
realized that even though he does not verbally say things to girls that might
make them feel uncomfortable, his subconscious mind might be making suggestions
to their subconscious minds that they consider to be inappropriate due to the
fact that the girl is only merging the practical part of her soul with
him."
"Thomas", continued
Dan, "at this point I told Kala how after you had finished telling me about
the conversation that you had with Jeffrey, I reminded you that Jeffrey is not
your only friend who is spiritually and psychologically vulnerable. I
reminded you that I have fought many of the same battles that Jeffrey has
fought. I told you at that time that I liked Jeffrey's idea about the
importance of him realizing that his subconscious mind is communicating with the
subconscious minds of the girls who he meets and that this below the surface
communication between Jeffrey and the girls who he meets might be making them
feel uncomfortable. But having tried personally to do variations of what
Jeffrey is suggesting where his subconscious mind tries to subconsciously
apologize to the subconscious minds of the girls who he meets for coming on too
strongly, I had to say that I didn't think that this was going to totally solve
the problem. I told you that I think that Jeffrey has to go further and
not only change the way that his subconscious mind communicates with the
subconscious minds of the girls who he knows, but that Jeffrey also has to
change the way that his subconscious mind communicates with the subconscious
minds of the guys who he knows."
"At this point I told Kala
how you and I have discussed several times before how many spiritually and
psychologically vulnerable people have been made into spiritual slaves by people
who have taken some of their spiritual energy away from them. One of the
ways that people steal spiritual energy from another person is by saying
something unfair about them or doing something unfair to them and then denying
that they have done anything wrong. Whenever a group makes a person into
their spiritual slave by treating them unfairly, the one who is the spiritual
slave starts contributing spiritual energy to the other members of the group.
The ones who dominate the spiritual slave through the years care about that
person very deeply because of what the spiritual slave does to strengthen the
group, not because they want the spiritual slave to become stronger. They
might even at times ask the spiritual slave what they need to help make them
stronger. But then the ones who asked the spiritual slave what they needed
to become stronger will make sure that the spiritual slave never receives
whatever it is that will make them stronger. I reminded you at this point
about how you had told Jeffrey that you and Amber were only merging the
practical parts of your souls with each other and how you knew that this was not
a good basis for developing a serious relationship. I then told you I
believe that the guys who try to dominate spiritual slaves such as Jeffrey and
myself know for certain, just like you know for certain, that they cannot
develop a serious relationship with a girl if they are only merging the
practical part of their soul with her. The guys who try to dominate
spiritual slaves such as Jeffrey and myself will try to make us believe (both
while communicating with us verbally and while communicating with us
subconsciously) that we will eventually be able to develop a serious
relationship with a girl who is only merging the practical part of her soul with
us. This tricks us into thinking that we are better off to continue going
down the same path that we are presently on rather than trying to make a change.
The ones who are dominating us want us to stay where we are. That is why I
believe that it is important for Jeffrey and myself to communicate to the
subconscious minds of the guys who we know that we are suspicious when they tell
us, both in verbal communication and in subconscious communication, that we will
eventually be able to develop a serious relationship with a girl who is only
merging the practical part of her soul with us."
"At this point I told you
that I knew you might be thinking that while in theory it makes sense for
Jeffrey and myself to try to stop other people from overpowering us spiritually,
it will be hard for us to actually make this happen. It will be hard for
us to make this happen because the people who dominate spiritual slaves such as
Jeffrey and myself usually have more spiritual energy than we do. I told
you I think that in order for people such as Jeffrey and myself to avoid being
overpowered spiritually by the people who are dominating us through the
Collective Subconscious, it is important for us to come up with a framework for
understanding (and for believing in) spiritual energy exchanges. I told
you I thought that Jeffrey and I should maybe come up with a variation of
Pascal's Wager."
"At this point", continued Dan, "Kala said
that she liked very much the variation on Pascal's Wager (Dan's Wager) that you
and I had developed. She then said that she wanted to tell me about a
conversation that you had told her about during your online video chat session.
She said that you had a conversation with someone named Pastor Ron when you were
flying back to
"That's right, Dan", said Thomas. "He
was sitting next to me on the airplane. When he introduced himself to me,
he said that I could call him Pastor Ron. Pastor Ron was headed to
"Yes she did, Thomas," said Dan, "and she
explained how Pastor Ron told you that he thinks that we ourselves might be the
mechanism for apparently supernatural phenomenon such as when people speak in
tongues or when a sick person is delirious and they seem to be speaking to
someone who is not in the room. He believes that every person on earth
communicates subconsciously with each other by exchanging spiritual energy
through the Collective Subconscious. Pastor Ron told you that he thinks it
is possible that when this type of spiritual event occurs someone at a meeting
in their office in Chicago might be communicating subconsciously (through the
Collective Subconscious) with a person who is speaking in tongues in a church
meeting in another city. The person in
"At this point", continued Dan, "you told
Pastor Ron you knew that some people believe that when we die our souls remain
in the Collective Subconscious and perform tasks such as helping people who are
still living when they take part in spiritual events such as the ones that you
and him had been discussing. You told Pastor Ron that you thought this
would be a very cold and a very limited sort of an afterlife. In
answer to your comment, Pastor Ron explained to you that spiritual energy
travels between us and other people so quickly that we are not consciously aware
of it. For this reason, it seems to us that the spiritual world is limited
and non-fulfilling because we can only sense, or can only see, the spiritual
world in a very limited sort of a way. Pastor Ron believes that the
spiritual things below the surface that we cannot see are probably very rich and
very fulfilling."
"Thomas", continued Dan,
"Kala said that after you told her about your conversation with Pastor Ron,
she told you that she liked very much Pastor Ron's ideas about the afterlife.
But she also told you that she thinks that there are a lot of pastors and other
church people in our country who would challenge the idea that there might be an
afterlife where there is no Hell. Kala reminded me how I had said that it
is very difficult for people such as myself who are spiritual slaves to break
free of our spiritual bondage. She said that it is very difficult for us
to break free of our spiritual bondage because the people who have made us into
their spiritual slaves do not want to lose the extra spiritual energy that they
receive when spiritual slaves are forced to give some of their spiritual energy
to the other members of the group. Kala said that there is a reason why
many pastors and other church people continue holding on to the idea that there
is a Hell. She thinks that they know that the myth of a physical place
called Hell is not real, but they also know that the spiritual slaves who have
been forced to give up some of their spiritual energy for the benefit of the
group are living in a type of living Hell where they do not have the amounts of
spiritual energy that are necessary to compete in this world. Kala knows
that it is wrong and very unfair to say that all church people believe that
spiritual slavery is ok, but she thinks that there are a lot of people in the
church today who feel that the only way to keep the myth of Hell alive is by
continuing to force spiritual slaves to live in a type of living Hell where they
must give up some of their spiritual energy for the benefit of the group."
"The final thing that Kala wanted me
to remember was that I might someday meet a church person who tries to make me
feel guilty for my lack of faith in the religious myths. She said that I
might be confused about why this makes me feel uneasy considering the fact that
I do not really believe in the myths of Heaven and Hell. In these
situations, she said that she thinks I might be confused because while the
church person is saying to my face (saying to me consciously) that they believe
in the myth of Heaven and Hell and that they do not believe that people exchange
spiritual energy with each other through the Collective Subconscious, Kala
believes that their subconscious mind is communicating to my subconscious mind
that they know that the myth of Heaven and Hell is not real, but that they are
convinced that people actually do exchange spiritual energy with other people
through the Collective Subconscious. This individual knows that I
get confused when I talk to people like them. Kala believes that while I
am talking to this person my conscious mind is trying to tell my subconscious
mind that this person believes in God but does not believe in spiritual energy
transfers through the Collective Subconscious. At the same time my
subconscious mind is trying to tell my conscious mind that the subconscious
vibrations that it is picking up from the church person indicate that the
reverse is actually true. Kala's final comment to me was that she hoped
that with a conscious insight into the situation, in the future when I meet a
person who says one thing to my face (to my conscious mind) and says something
else to my subconscious mind, I will not feel the conflict that we all feel when
our conscious minds and our subconscious minds are not in agreement (or not in
alignment)."
"That's
pretty good, Dan", said Thomas. "I like Kala's ideas very much,
but I think that there is one more thing that we should consider. In the
same way that a church person might be able to throw your conscious mind and
your subconscious mind out of alignment by trying to make you feel guilty for
not believing in religious myths that they don't believe in themselves, another
type of person might try to throw your conscious mind and your subconscious mind
out of alignment in a different way. This person (who might be a church
person or who might not be a church person) will let you know in a subtle way,
such as possibly rolling their eyes or maybe making a muted chuckling noise
while you are talking to them, that they are going to take something that you
have just said to them about yourself, and they are then going to twist (or
spin) it around to take on a very negative interpretation that you never
intended, and then they are going to tell at least a couple of people the false
story (or the lie) about you that they have created. This person knows
that while you are talking to them your conscious mind is telling your
subconscious mind that you are afraid they are going to tell some people a lie
about you and that at the same time your subconscious mind will be telling your
conscious mind that the subconscious vibrations that it is picking up from this
person indicate that not only will this person tell a lie about you directly to
some people but also that those people who they tell the lie to will cause you
further damage by subconsciously transmitting the lie that they have heard about
you to other people by way of the Collective Subconscious."
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"Dan",
continued Thomas, "when you get involved in a situation such as this, you
might at a deep subconscious level start to panic about how you are going to be
able to defend yourself against the lie about you that you know is going to be
told (both consciously and subconsciously) to so many people. Even if you
were able to find all of the people who hear the lie directly from the liar and
if you were able to tell them the truth (or tell them your side of the story),
you would still have no idea what to do about the people who had only heard the
lie subconsciously (people who had not consciously heard the lie in a
conversation with another person, but who had only heard the lie subconsciously
when it was transmitted to them through the Collective Subconscious)."
"When another person intimidates you by letting you know
that they are going to tell a lie that will hurt you, that person knows that you
will be worried about how you are going to defend yourself against the lie.
But they also know that you are going to be worried about the fact that this
sort of intimidation seems to happen to you more often than it does to other
people and that you don't know how to stop it from happening. Dan, I think
that because you have had your spiritual energy stolen from you by other people
in the past (thereby reducing your levels of spiritual energy), it is possible
that the connection between your conscious mind and your subconscious mind is
weaker than the connection that most other people have between their conscious
mind and their subconscious mind. In my opinion, bullies prefer to try to
pick on people who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable. It is
fairly easy for them to frighten a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable
person because other people have been frightening that person by stealing their
spiritual energy throughout their lives. I think that bullies who try to
intimidate a person in this way enjoy the fact that they are taking a person who
was already weak and they are making them even weaker. And in my opinion I
also think that they are able to increase their own spiritual energy levels when
they do this because they are stealing some of the spiritually and
psychologically vulnerable person's spiritual energy. When this sort of
thing happens to you, Dan, I know that there are a lot of things that are going
through your mind and that it is easy to panic. But if you could gain some
insight into what is happening you might be able to defend yourself better
against this type of attack in the future. Maybe the next time that this
happens you could remind yourself when you are talking to the bully that your
conscious mind and your subconscious mind are in conflict and are out of
alignment at that moment. And also remind yourself that you are at that
moment concerned about how you are going to defend yourself against the
lies that you know the bully is going to tell about you. Maybe try to
communicate to your subconscious mind that you are consciously aware that the
bully is going to tell lies about you directly to other people and that some of
those people who hear the lies might subconsciously transmit the lies to other
people through the Collective Subconscious. Also try to communicate to
your subconscious mind that you do not think that you should get overly worried
about what is going to happen when the bully tells their lies because
everybody on earth has to deal with having lies told about them both consciously
and subconsciously. Try to communicate to your subconscious mind that the
biggest problem you are facing at that moment is that the bully is trying to
steal your spiritual energy by making you panic because of the conflict that you
are feeling because your conscious mind is not in alignment with your
subconscious mind. If you can get yourself to stop panicking when this
happens, the bully will not be able to steal your spiritual energy and you will
for this reason have more spiritual energy available to you. And because
you have more spiritual energy available to you than you would have had if you
had allowed the bully to steal your spiritual energy, you will be able to better
defend yourself against any conscious or subconscious lies that are told about
you than you would have been if you would have panicked when you were talking to
the bully."
"Finally
Dan, I think that you should try to subconsciously communicate to the bullies
who try to hurt you (church people bullies, non-church people bullies, men
bullies, and women bullies) that you have developed a variation of Pascal's
Wager (Dan's Wager) that allows you to believe that exchanges of spiritual
energy between yourself and other people actually do take place through the
Collective Subconscious, and that this will hopefully help you to better defend
yourself against people such as them in the future when they try to steal your
spiritual energy. Hopefully by gaining a conscious insight into some of
the ways that other people might try to hurt you spiritually and
psychologically, you will be able to reduce the conflicts between your conscious
mind and your subconscious mind and bring them into a closer alignment. By
reducing those conflicts and by using your variation of Pascal's Wager, you will
hopefully be able to increase your levels of spiritual energy by learning how to
prevent other people from stealing your spiritual energy and also increase your
levels of spiritual energy by developing
faith that people really do exchange spiritual energy with each other through
the Collective Subconscious."
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One evening in the spring of 2008 a young
man named Dan, who had lived in Chicago for several years, and his friend
Thomas, who was a college student in Chicago, were on their way to visit the
pastor of a church in the Chicago area who Thomas had met on the airplane when
he went back to Los Angeles for his spring break a few weeks earlier. When
the pastor from
When Dan and Thomas got to Pastor Ron's
church they went to a side door that Pastor Ron had told them would be open and
they found his office without any trouble. After Thomas introduced Dan to
Pastor Ron they all took their seats. Thomas started out by telling Pastor
Ron that he enjoyed the conversation that they had on the airplane during their
flight to Los Angeles (Pastor Ron had gone to Los Angeles to attend the yearly
annual meeting of his church). Thomas told Pastor Ron that he liked very
much Pastor Ron's ideas about spiritual things and that he had told some other
people, including Dan, what he and Pastor Ron had talked about on the airplane.
Upon hearing this Pastor Ron said,
"thank you very much, I really appreciate that. Thomas, on the phone
you said that you and Dan had some other questions about spiritual things that
you guys have been discussing recently. If you or Dan could start out by
telling me some of the things that you guys have been discussing recently, I'd
be glad to give you any insights that I might have when you are done."
"That sounds good", said Thomas.
"Dan, would you like to go ahead and start out?"
"Thomas told me you believe it is
possible that when this type of spiritual event occurs someone at a meeting in
their office in Chicago might be communicating subconsciously (through the
Collective Subconscious) with a person who is speaking in tongues in a church
meeting in another city. The person in
"At
this point", continued Dan, "Thomas told you he knew that some people
believe that when we die our souls remain in the Collective Subconscious and
perform tasks such as helping people who are still living when they take part in
spiritual events such as the ones that you and him had been discussing. He
told you he thought this would be a very cold and a very limited sort of an
afterlife. In
answer to his comment, you explained to Thomas that spiritual energy travels
between us and other people so quickly that we are not consciously aware of it.
For this reason, it seems to us that the spiritual world is limited and
non-fulfilling because we can only sense, or can only see, the spiritual world
in a very limited sort of a way. You told Thomas you believe that the
spiritual things below the surface that we cannot see are probably very rich and
very fulfilling."
"Pastor
Ron", continued Dan, "Thomas told me that he also talked to you on the
airplane about his friend Jeffrey who is spiritually and psychologically
vulnerable. When Thomas and I talk about people such as Jeffrey who are
spiritually and psychologically vulnerable, we sometimes refer to them as
spiritual slaves. Spiritual slaves have had their spiritual energy
unfairly taken away from them by other people. The ones who steal their
spiritual energy might do this by saying something unfair about them or doing
something unfair to them and then denying that they have done anything wrong.
On his first night back in
Dan
thought for a moment and then continued, "last week I decided to go online
with my computer and see if I could do an online video chat session with Kala
(the psychic in
Dan
noticed that Pastor Ron had a slight smile on his face at this point so he asked
Pastor Ron if he had any comments about Dan's conversation with Kala.
Pastor
Ron thought for a moment and then said, "we don't see it so much these days
but in the past there were pastors who would get up and preach in a very loud
and frightening manner about how everyone who was in the room was going to Hell
unless they repented their sins. When they did this there would be people
in the audience who would start to get very nervous. Many of these people
believed that they were nervous because the pastor was right and that they were
going to go to Hell if they did not repent their sins that night. Dan, due
to the advancements that have been made in science over the past 100 years it
has become very difficult for churches to keep the myths of Heaven and Hell
alive. Many pastors have used the technique that Kala described to make
people believe that Hell must really exist. They would talk in a booming
and scary voice about Hell and would make many people in the audience get very
nervous. The pastor was actually making people feel conflict and confusion
because he was saying to them consciously in a very convincing manner that he
definitely believed that Hell existed while his subconscious mind was telling
the subconscious minds of the people in the audience that he did not really
believe that Hell existed. This would create a conflict between the
conscious minds and the subconscious minds of the people in the audience and it
would make them think that the only way they would be able to clear up the
conflict would be to repent their sins."
"Please
go ahead and continue, Dan", said Pastor Ron.
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"Thomas
believes that when you get into a situation such as this, you might at a deep
subconscious level start to panic about how you are going to be able to defend
yourself against the lie about you that you know is going to be told (both
consciously and subconsciously) to so many people. Even if you were able
to find all of the people who heard the lie directly from the liar and if you
were able to tell them the truth (or tell them your side of the story), you
would still have no idea what to do about the people who had only heard the lie
subconsciously (people who had not consciously heard the lie in a conversation
with another person, but who had only heard the lie subconsciously when it was
transmitted to them through the Collective Subconscious)."
"Thomas
believes that when another person intimidates you by letting you know that they
are going to tell a lie that will hurt you, that person knows that you will be
worried about how you are going to defend yourself against the lie. He
thinks that because people such as Jeffrey and myself have had our spiritual
energy stolen from us by other people in the past (thereby reducing our levels
of spiritual energy), it is possible that the connection between our conscious
minds and our subconscious minds is weaker than the connection that most other
people have between their conscious mind and their subconscious mind. For
this reason Thomas feels that the bullies who like to unfairly spread lies about
other people will tend to pick on spiritually and psychologically vulnerable
people such as Jeffrey and myself more than they pick on other people.
Thomas said he knows that there are a lot of things that are going through my
mind when I get taken advantage of in this way and that it is easy for me to
panic. But if I could gain some insight into what is happening, Thomas
thinks that I might be able to better defend myself against this type of attack
in the future. He suggested that the next time this happens I should
remind myself that my conscious mind and my subconscious mind are in conflict
and are out of alignment at that moment while I am talking to the person who is
trying to take advantage of me. Thomas thinks that I should try to
communicate to my subconscious mind that I am consciously aware that the bully
who is trying to take advantage of me is going to tell lies about me directly to
other people and that some of those people who hear the lies might
subconsciously transmit the lies to other people through the Collective
Subconscious. He thinks that I should communicate to my subconscious mind
that the biggest problem I am facing at that moment is that the bully is trying
to steal my spiritual energy by making me panic because of the conflict that I
am feeling because my conscious mind is not in alignment with my subconscious
mind. If I can get myself to stop panicking when this happens, Thomas
thinks that the bully will not be able to steal my spiritual energy and I will
for this reason have more spiritual energy available to me. And because I
will have more spiritual energy available to me than I would have had if I would
have allowed the bully to steal my spiritual energy, I will be able to better
defend myself against any conscious or subconscious lies that will be told about
me than I would have been if I would have panicked when I was talking to the
bully. Pastor Ron, I think that pretty much covers the subjects that we
wanted to talk to you about tonight."
Pastor
Ron smiled and then said, "Dan, I mentioned a little while ago how the
advancements that have been made in science over the past 100 years have made it
very difficult for churches to keep the myths of Heaven and Hell alive. I
mentioned how I believe that a lot of pastors have used the technique that Kala
described to make people believe think there must be a Hell by preaching about
Hell while at same time making those people who were in the audience nervous by
creating a conflict between their conscious minds and their subconscious minds
that actually had nothing to do with Hell. I think that there are a lot of
pastors today who know that their congregations are well educated and that the
people in their congregations have trouble believing in things of a spiritual
nature. In the same way that many pastors in the past used the technique
that Kala described to make people believe that there was a Hell, I think that
some of the pastors today use the technique that Thomas told you about last week
to make skeptical people believe that spiritual forces actually do exist.
I think that they might purposely tell lies about people who are spiritually and
psychologically vulnerable for the purpose of demonstrating that spiritual
forces actually exist. If they are able to tell a lie about a spiritually
and psychologically vulnerable person and if the people who heard the lie notice
how nervous it makes the vulnerable person and if they also notice that people who did not hear the lie consciously (people who did not hear the lie
directly from another person in a conversation) believe the lie, than that will
prove to those people that spiritual forces actually do exist. Pastors who
are a little bit mischievous will be able to have a little bit of fun at the
expense of the person who is spiritually and psychologically vulnerable, and
they will feel that they will have done a good thing because they will have made
people who were once skeptical about the existence of spiritual forces start to
believe that spiritual forces actually do exist. I know that a lot of
people today get confused when they hear stories of pastors who have been doing
bad things for many years while they were the spiritual leader of their church.
You would think that someone who was corrupt would not be able to lead other
people spiritually. I think maybe the reason that those pastors are able
to lead their congregations spiritually even though they are corrupt themselves
is that they use tricks such as the ones that we have been discussing here
tonight. They prove with those tricks that spiritual forces exist and the
members of their congregations are impressed by those tricks."
Pastor
Ron continued, "I think that there is something else that people who are
spiritually and psychologically vulnerable (and who are spiritual slaves) need
to be aware of. Dan, when a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable
person such as Jeffrey and yourself becomes another person's spiritual slave,
they end up absorbing the pressure that should be going to the person who
attacked them and who made them into their spiritual slave. They have to
deal with not only the pressure in their own life but they also have to absorb
the pressure that is being directed towards the person who has made them into a
spiritual slave. If they eventually, with insight into the nature of their
situation, get some sort of psychological release where they no longer feel the
need to absorb the pressure of the person who made them into a spiritual slave,
they will notice very soon that they will have increased pressure put upon them
by people in the group that they are a part of who are upset that the person who
made them into a spiritual slave (their slave master) is not happy about the new
situation where they have to absorb the pressure that was previously absorbed
for them by the spiritual slave. The person who had been using them as a
spiritual slave might tell the other members of their group that they are
feeling increased negative spiritual energy coming into them from the person who
they had been using as their spiritual slave. Actually, they are just
feeling the negative spiritual energy that the spiritually and psychologically
vulnerable person had been absorbing for them through the years. But being
as the person who made the more vulnerable person into a spiritual slave is
going through obvious spiritual and psychological pain as a result of what has
occurred, it will appear to anyone observing the situation that the person who
had been serving as a spiritual slave was actually sending negative spiritual
energy into their former slave master. The group will now cast the
spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person in the role of an bad person
and the vulnerable person will be forced to go back into their old role where
they were being forced to absorb the pressure that was being directed towards
the person who had made them into their spiritual slave."
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"Unfortunately
Dan" continued Pastor Ron, "if you tell someone who has been praying
for you that you would prefer to receive less prayers and be allowed to break
free of your spiritual bondage than to receive more prayers and remain a
spiritual slave, you might find that the person who has been praying for you
will not want to send you any spiritual energy by way of their prayers if you
manage to get free of your spiritual slavery. This person might feel that
spiritual slavery is a necessary thing in this world and they might not want to
see you break free of your spiritual slavery."
Dan
thought about what Pastor Ron had said for a moment and then said, "Pastor
Ron, what you said about people who might pray for you while you are a spiritual
slave but who might not want to pray for you if you become free of your
spiritual slavery might be related to something else that Thomas and I have been
discussing recently. It is sometimes hard for people such as Jeffrey and
myself who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable to figure out why we
might sometimes start to feel that we are developing a relationship with someone
of the opposite sex and then find that they are not really interested in us.
Thomas has a pretty good explanation as to why this might happen. Thomas
believes that most people as they are growing up develop deep emotions
for the people who they are really close to emotionally, and they also develop a
"practical" set of emotions that they use when they are in situations
where they are dealing with people in their school while they are growing up or
where they are dealing with people in business types of situations when they
start their working lives. For example, a girl who is running for
homecoming queen or for a class office while in high school might develop
"practical" relationships where she merges the practical part of her
soul with her fellow students for the purpose of getting their votes in the
school election. Thomas believes that people who are spiritually and
psychologically vulnerable are only able to develop a practical set of emotions
and for this reason sometimes they might think that they are getting involved
with someone of the opposite sex who is only merging the practical part of their
soul with them. And I believe there is another thing that
makes spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people think that they are
getting involved with a person who is not really interested in them.
Thomas believes that people transfer their exchanges of spiritual energy that
they had with people who they knew in the past to people who they know in the
present. And he believes that people who are spiritually and
psychologically vulnerable also transfer their exchanges of spiritual energy
that they have had with other people in the past to people who they know in the
present. This transfer of spiritual energy exchanges is a good thing when
someone meets a soul mate who is able to tie up their emotional loose ends and
make them forget about bad relationships that they have had in the past, but I
think that it can be a bad thing for a spiritually and psychologically
vulnerable person. If in the past you have been told by a girl that she
doesn't want to see you any more because you are not in her league and then you
meet a new girl who is very similar to her, you might transfer to the new girl
the exchanges of spiritual energy that you had with the girl who you knew in the
past who said that she did not want to see you any more (and the new girl who
you meet might transfer to you the exchanges of spiritual energy that she had
with guys who she knew in the past who she had told to leave her alone).
This will create immediate friction between you and the new girl who you have
just met."
Pastor
Ron thought for a moment and then said, "Dan, I think you have a very good
understanding of some of the problems that spiritually and psychologically
vulnerable people have in their relationships with other people. We
discussed earlier how someone who was willing to send you spiritual energy by
way of their prayers might not be willing to send you spiritual energy by way of
their prayers if you break free from your spiritual slavery. In a similar
way I think that when spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people are
growing up members of the opposite sex will sometimes give them a conditional
type of friendship. A girl in a church group, for example, might flirt
with a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy because she wants to give
something to him to help him be strong enough to fulfill his role as a spiritual
slave to the group. Some people use the term "quid pro quo"
(which is Latin for "this for that") to describe this type of
situation. In the girl's mind it was understood from the start that she
would flirt with the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy for as long
as he played the role of a spiritual slave. In her mind, they had a deal.
When he tried to form an actual relationship with her, it might have felt OK to
her for a while, but then she realized that something was wrong. What she
realized was that he had stepped out of the role that he had been performing as
a spiritual slave and that he was trying to relate to her as an equal. At
that point she backed out of their "quid pro quo" arrangement because
he was no longer playing the role that she was expecting him to play.
While the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy might not have been in
her league, he was in her game at one time. When he started trying to
relate to her on a more equal type of a basis she decided that she did not want
him in her game any longer."
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"To sum it up Dan", said Pastor Ron, "you might want to watch out for at least three types of situations that might be throwing your conscious mind out of alignment with your subconscious mind. First, watch out for religious people who try to make you feel guilty for not believing in religious myths that they do not believe in themselves. Second, when a bully tries to make you nervous by letting you know that they are going to tell a lie about you, try to communicate to your subconscious mind that you are aware of the dangers of the situation and that you believe that you will be OK as long as you understand the nature of the situation and as long as you don't panic. And finally, try to communicate to your subconscious mind that you are aware that you may be unintentionally sending negative spiritual messages that are being relayed by your community through you to the people who you meet that give them the impression that you like to hurt other people. Let your subconscious mind know that you will try to be as positive as possible with the people who you deal with on a conscious level and perhaps also give your subconscious mind the authority to try to override some of those negative spiritual vibrations that are being relayed by your community through you to the people who you meet and turn those negative spiritual vibrations into positive spiritual vibrations."
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One night in the spring of 2008 a young man named Thomas, who
was a college student in
"Thomas", said Kala, "I can see from the
information that you entered onto the website page that you wanted to talk to me
about something that was discussed tonight when you and your friend Dan visited
Pastor Ron. I remember you telling me about Pastor Ron during the online
video chat session that we had a few weeks ago and I would be glad to add any
insights that I might have about what you, Dan and Pastor Ron were talking about
tonight."
"Kala", said
Thomas,
"tonight
Dan and I went out to Pastor Ron's church and
we spent about a half hour talking to him about some spiritual things that Dan
and I have been discussing recently. By the way, Kala, Dan told me that he
did an online video chat session with you last week and that he really
appreciated the insights that you gave to him about things of a spiritual
nature.
I think that because of the fact that Dan is spiritually and psychologically
vulnerable (and has had some of his spiritual energy stolen from him by people
who have taken advantage of him) it is harder for Dan to understand things of a
spiritual nature than it is for most other people."
Thomas thought for a moment and then continued, "Pastor Ron discussed three different types of spiritual topics with us earlier tonight but there is one subject in particular that I found very interesting and that I would like to get your insights on. Pastor Ron explained how most of us have been in situations where we were going through a hard time and then we were very disappointed when the people around us (who we hoped would encourage us during our time of trouble) actually seemed to be happy about our misfortune (thereby making our pain even worse). When a family is going through a hard time (such as a death in the family or a financial set back) and a new family member comes along, there is a danger that some of the more aggressive and unkind members of the community that the family is involved in will start to put increased amounts of pressure on the family in an effort to hurt the family at a time when they are down and vulnerable. Some families can handle this type of pressure and humiliation better than others, but it is not easy for anyone to feel negative spiritual energy coming into them from members of their community when they feel that those people should be trying to help them in their time of difficulty. When a family is pressured in this sort of a way and a new member is born into the family, there is a danger that the family will transfer the negative spiritual energy that is coming into them from the members of their community that are pressuring the family to the new family member. It is Pastor Ron's belief that there are quite a few spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people whose birth might have occurred at a time that was not convenient for their family. Because of this fact (and because the family decided to put the blame on the new member of the family) the new family member developed a reputation in their community as being a person who liked to hurt other people because it was believed that their birth hurt their family. If their birth caused more problems for their father than for their mother, they might get a reputation for (or be spiritually branded as) a person who likes to hurt other men. If their birth caused more problems for their mother than for their father, they might get a reputation for (or be spiritually branded as) a person who likes to hurt women. Pastor Ron told Dan that if this was the situation that Dan was born into, then this reputation (or spiritual branding) that was given to him by the community that he was a part of would have followed him as he went through school and would have also followed him later on when he started his working life. Pastor Ron then gave Dan an example to explain in somewhat simple terms what might be going on between Dan and other people spiritually if Dan developed a reputation early in life as someone who likes to hurt other people. At this point Pastor Ron said to him, "Dan, try to picture in your mind that when you are talking to another person, you are sending them spiritual energy. You have some conscious control over this spiritual energy (which we will call personal spiritual energy). Let's say that you also send the person who you are talking to a more subconscious type of spiritual energy. This spiritual energy is being relayed by your community through you to the person who you are talking to. This spiritual energy (which we will call group spiritual energy) is comprised of the combined spiritual energy of the people who you knew when you were growing up (or your community). If your community came to a consensus that you like to hurt other people, it would be hard for you to be effective at sending positive spiritual energy to other people because while you were sending positive spiritual energy to the other person consciously, that other person would also be picking up subconscious vibrations from you that were made up of the negative group spiritual energy that was being relayed by your community through you to that other person. This negative group spiritual energy would communicate to the other person that you are someone who likes to hurt other people."
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After hearing this Kala said, "Thomas, Pastor Ron's idea about how a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person might be sending conflicting signals to the people he meets (positive signals from himself and negative signals relayed by his community through him) is very interesting, but I would like to add something to Pastor Ron's example. In Pastor Ron's example the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person sends negative spiritual energy that is relayed by his community through him to the people who he meets. This negative spiritual energy tells them that he likes to hurt other people. He has been spiritually branded by his community as being a person who likes to hurt other people because his birth took place at a time that was not convenient for his family and because the family put the blame onto the new family member."
"Thomas,
what I think we should
look at is what happens when a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person
who has been given a negative spiritual branding starts to form relationships
with other people. When the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable
person meets another person and that other person sees that the vulnerable
person has been spiritually branded as someone who likes to hurt other people,
it will be natural for that other person to think that they will be able to form
a relationship with him (or her) if they are also someone who likes to hurt
other people. But when the relationship comes to an end, the person who
developed the relationship with the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable
person will come to the conclusion that he not only likes to hurt other people
but also that he likes to confuse other people. They will come to this
conclusion because they are confused about why their relationship with him did
not work out. It will not occur to them that the problem might be with the
vulnerable person's spiritual branding (that maybe he is not really someone who
likes to hurt other people). This person who just ended their relationship
with the vulnerable person will now add something new to the vulnerable person's
spiritual branding. They will add to his spiritual branding that he also
likes to confuse other people. Now when he meets a new person his
community will relay through him to that new person that he likes to hurt other
people and that he also likes to confuse other people. At this point it
will be natural for another new person who meets him (someone who likes to both
hurt other people and confuse other people) to think that they will be able to
form a relationship with him. When that relationship eventually comes to
an end that new person will also add something new to the spiritual branding of
the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person. At this point, when the
vulnerable person meets a new person he will still be sending them positive
personal spiritual energy but he will now be sending them two different types of
negative group spiritual energy that are being relayed by his community through
him to the people who he meets. The first type of negative group spiritual
energy that he will be sending gives the new person who he meets the group's
spiritual consensus that he likes to hurt other people. The second type of
negative group spiritual energy gives to the new person who he meets the group
spiritual consensus of all of the people who he has had relationships with since
he started out his life spiritually branded as a person who likes to hurt other
people."
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"To sum it up", said Kala, "I think that spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people such as Dan should try to communicate to their subconscious minds that they are aware that they may be unintentionally sending out two types of negative spiritual messages that are being relayed by their community through them to the people who they meet. The first type of negative spiritual message gives the other person the impression that they like to hurt other people. The second type of negative spiritual message gives the other person the group consensus of all of the people who the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person has had a relationship with since they started their life spiritually branded as a person who likes to hurt other people. I think that Dan should try to communicate to his subconscious mind that he will try to be as positive as possible with the people who he deals with on a conscious level and perhaps he should also, with insight into the situation, ask his subconscious mind to try to override some of the negative spiritual vibrations that are being relayed by his community through him to the people who he meets and try to turn some of those negative spiritual vibrations into positive spiritual vibrations."
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One night in the spring of 2008 a young man named Thomas, who
was a college student in Chicago, had a few minutes free before he had to go to
bed so he decided to do an online video chat session with his friend Dan.
Earlier in the evening Thomas and Dan had visited the pastor of a church in the
"Hi Dan", said Thomas, "I hope it's not too
late to call. But I was thinking about some of the things that we talked
to Pastor Ron about tonight and I was wondering if you had some time to give me
your ideas about what Pastor Ron had to say."
"Sure Thomas", said Dan, "I've been thinking
about some of the things that Pastor Ron said too. I think I understood
most of what he said but there were a couple of things that confused me a little
bit. The first thing that confused me had to do with Pastor Ron's ideas
about how in the past there were some pastors of churches who
would get up and preach in a very loud and frightening manner about how everyone
who was in the room was going to Hell unless they repented their sins that
night. Pastor Ron thought that a lot of pastors in the past used this
technique to convince people that Hell might actually exist. Pastor Ron
felt that these pastors were actually making the people in the congregation feel
conflict and confusion because they were saying to them consciously (to their
faces) in a very convincing manner that they definitely believed that Hell
existed while their subconscious minds were telling the subconscious minds of
the people in the congregation that they did not really believe that Hell
existed. This would create a conflict between the conscious minds and the
subconscious minds of the people in the congregation and because the pastor was
preaching about Hell, it would make them think that the conflict had
something to do with Hell. Thomas, the only problem I see with this idea
is that when you are talking to some of the older church people and you question
the religious myths, they often will get so upset that you really feel that deep
down in their souls they must actually believe that there is a physical place
called Hell."
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"Thanks
Thomas", said Dan, "I think I understand now what was happening in the
churches many years ago. Thomas, you mentioned to me last week how you
think that some pastors today know that their congregations are too skeptical
for them to preach about hellfire and brimstone. For this reason they use
other techniques. One of the techniques they use might be to make fun of
(and in doing so steal the spiritual energy of) a person who is spiritually and
psychologically vulnerable (a person who has had their spiritual energy stolen
from them in the past) in an effort to try to convince the people in the
congregation that spiritual forces actually do exist. Thomas, the problem I
see here is that I know that a lot of the people in churches such as those that
you described seem to honestly feel that their pastor is not an opportunist who
is in a cold and calculated manner using spiritual power plays to prove that
spiritual forces exist."
"Dan", continued Thomas, "when a pastor uses spiritual tricks such as these to steal the spiritual energy of a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person and to give that spiritual energy to the members of his congregation, he is not acting alone. The pastor knows that there are several people in the congregation who firmly agree with what the pastor is doing when he takes advantage of people who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable. Those people are joined together with the pastor in a spiritual entity. The pastor and the other members of the pastor's spiritual entity believe that it is very important for their spiritual entity to do whatever is necessary to prove to the members of the congregation that spiritual forces actually do exist."
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Thomas thought for a moment and then said, "Dan, when I
got home tonight from our visit with Pastor Ron I got to thinking about what
might be going on in the soul of a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable
person who is taken advantage of by a mischievous pastor who he once knew.
I think that the congregation feels increased spiritual power coming into them
from the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person who is thousands of
miles away because they can sense (through the Collective Subconscious) that the
vulnerable person's soul is very troubled at that moment because the vulnerable
person has never understood the manner in which people are connected to each
other spiritually. The vulnerable person might start to get nervous and
start to think about the pastor who is using him as a sermon illustration in
another city, and he might start to think that maybe he is spiritually connected
to the pastor. But then later, due to the fact that the vulnerable person
does not really believe in things of a spiritual nature, he will go back to
thinking that his imagination was playing tricks on him and that he was not
spiritually connected to the pastor at all. The congregation that the
pastor is speaking to knows that spiritually and psychologically vulnerable
people will go back and
forth between believing that they are spiritually
connected to other people and not believing that people are spiritually
connected to other people. Their spiritual connections with other people
are so weak that they only seem to notice those spiritual connections when other
people are purposely taking advantage of them."
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"Dan", continued
Thomas, "before I called you tonight I did a short online video chat
session with our mutual friend Kala (an online psychic in
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After
hearing this Kala said to me, "Thomas, Pastor Ron's idea about how a spiritually and psychologically
vulnerable person might be sending conflicting signals to the people he meets
(positive signals from himself and negative signals relayed by his community
through him) is very interesting, but I would like to add something to Pastor
Ron's example. In Pastor Ron's example the spiritually and psychologically
vulnerable person sends negative spiritual energy that is relayed by his
community through him to the people who he meets. This negative spiritual
energy tells them that he likes to hurt other people. He has been
spiritually branded by his community as being a person who likes to hurt other
people because his birth took place at a time that was not convenient for his
family and because the family put the blame onto the new family member."
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Thomas thought for a moment and then said, "In Kala's example, when someone ends a relationship with a vulnerable person that was based on the vulnerable person's spiritual branding as someone who likes to hurt other people, it will not occur to them that the vulnerable person's spiritual branding was not accurate. But I was thinking after talking to Kala that it might be possible that some of the people who get involved with the vulnerable person might be suspicious that the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding was not correct. Some of these people might go out into the Collective Subconscious and try to spiritually contact the family members who set the stage originally for the spiritual branding that was given to the vulnerable person. They may try to verify with those people that the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding was correct. If the various family members who set up the vulnerable person's original incorrect spiritual branding were to start broadcasting a more accurate version of the vulnerable person's spiritual branding to people who might from time to time (through the Collective Subconscious) question the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding, it would probably improve the vulnerable person's relationships with other people."
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Dan thought for a moment and then said, "Thomas, I think you've covered pretty well the questions that I had about our talk with Pastor Ron tonight. But there is something that I would like to add to Pastor Ron's and Kala's examples of spiritual branding. I think that a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person who has been incorrectly branded spiritually as someone who likes to hurt other people has to remember something. If the vulnerable person gets into a pattern of getting involved with people who like to hurt other people (because the person who they got involved with started the relationship thinking that the vulnerable person likes to hurt other people), the vulnerable person will have trouble understanding those people who they have gotten involved with. The vulnerable person is thought of as being someone who likes to hurt other people because of the incorrect original spiritual branding that was given to him. When he gets involved with someone who likes to hurt other people and when the relationship with that person comes to an end, it will be natural for the vulnerable person to think that this other person must be at least somewhat similar to him. He might think that the other person, like him, was given an incorrect original spiritual branding and that the other person is not really someone who genuinely likes to hurt other people. But that other person's spiritual branding (unlike the vulnerable person's spiritual branding) was not forced upon them. The vulnerable person should realize that this person who they were once involved with might actually be a person who likes to hurt other people.".
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One evening in the spring of 2008 a young
man named Thomas, who was a college student in Chicago, was sitting in the
office of the pastor of a church in the Chicago area who Thomas had met on the
airplane when he went back to Los Angeles for his spring break a few weeks
earlier. When the pastor from
Thomas had enjoyed the conversation that
he had with Pastor Ron on the airplane during their flight to
"Thomas", said Pastor Ron,
"on the phone you said that you had some other questions about spiritual
things that you and Dan have been discussing recently. If you would like
to start out by telling me some of the things that you guys have been talking
about recently, I'd be glad to give you any insights that I might have when you
are done."
"That sounds good", said Thomas.
"Pastor Ron, "when Dan and I were here last time
you told us about how most of us have been in situations where we were going
through a hard time and then we were very disappointed when the people around us
(who we hoped would encourage us during our time of trouble) actually seemed to
be happy about our misfortune (thereby making our pain even worse). You
explained that when a family is going through a hard time (such as a death in
the family or a financial set back) and a new family member comes along, there
is a danger that some of the more aggressive and unkind members of the community
that the family is a part of will start to put increased amounts of pressure on
the family in an effort to hurt the family at a time when they are down and
vulnerable. Some families can handle this type of pressure and humiliation
better than others, but it is not easy for anyone to feel negative spiritual
energy coming into them from members of their community when they feel that
those people should be trying to help them in their time of difficulty.
You said that when a family is pressured in this sort of a way and a new member
is born into the family, there is a danger that the family will transfer the
negative spiritual energy that is coming into them from the members of their
community that are pressuring the family to the new family member. The
other family members are able to keep their equilibrium because they do not have
to absorb the negative spiritual energy that was previously coming into them.
Pastor Ron, you told Dan and I that it was your belief that there are quite a
few spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people (people who have had their
spiritual energy stolen from them by other people in the past) whose birth might
have occurred at a time that was not convenient for their family. Because
of this fact (and because the family decided to put the blame on the new member
of the family) the new family member developed a reputation in their community
as being a person who liked to hurt other people because it was believed that
their birth hurt their family. You said that if this happened to a person
this reputation (or spiritual branding) that was given to them by the community
that they were a part of would have followed them as they went through school
and also later on when they started their working life. You gave Dan and I
an example to explain what might be going on between a person who has been
spiritually branded as a person who likes to hurt other people and the people
who they meet. You asked us to picture in our minds that when we are
talking to another person, we send them spiritual energy. We have some
conscious control over this spiritual energy (which we call personal spiritual
energy). You asked us to also picture in our minds that we send the person
who we are talking to a more subconscious type of spiritual energy. This
spiritual energy is being relayed by our community through us to the person who
we are talking to. This spiritual energy (which we call group spiritual
energy) is comprised of the combined spiritual energy of the people who we knew
when we were growing up (or our community). You said that if our community
came to a consensus that we liked to hurt other people, it would be hard for us
to be effective at sending positive spiritual energy to other people because
while we were sending positive spiritual energy to the other person consciously,
that other person would also be picking up subconscious vibrations from us that
were made up of the negative group spiritual energy that was being relayed
through us by our community to that other person. This negative
group spiritual energy would communicate to the other person that we were the
types of people who like to hurt other people."
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"Pastor Ron",
continued Thomas, "after Dan and I visited you two weeks ago I did a short
online video chat session with Kala (the online psychic in
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Thomas thought for a moment and then said, "Pastor Ron, in Kala's example, when someone ends a relationship with a vulnerable person that was based on the vulnerable person's spiritual branding as someone who likes to hurt other people, it will usually not occur to them that the vulnerable person's spiritual branding was not accurate. But I was thinking after talking to Kala that it might be possible that some of the people who get involved with the vulnerable person might be suspicious that the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding was incorrect. Some of these people might go out into the Collective Subconscious and try to spiritually contact the family members who set the stage originally for the spiritual branding that was given to the vulnerable person."
"They may try to verify with those people through the Collective Subconscious that the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding was correct. If the various family members who set up the vulnerable person's original incorrect spiritual branding were to start broadcasting a more accurate version of the vulnerable person's spiritual branding to the people who might from time to time (through the Collective Subconscious) question the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding, it would probably improve the vulnerable person's relationships with other people."
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Pastor Ron thought for a moment and then said, "Thomas,
I like very much the way that you and Kala have expanded my example about the
problems that a person might develop in life if they have been spiritually
branded as being a person who likes to hurt other people. You said that
Kala thought a woman might start a relationship with a vulnerable man because
she liked to hurt other people and because the vulnerable man had been
spiritually branded as being someone who liked to hurt other people. I
agree with Kala that if this were to happen the person who started the
relationship with the vulnerable man would probably be confused when the
relationship came to an end and they might add to the spiritual branding of the
vulnerable man that he also liked to confuse other people. I also liked
your idea that people might from time to time contact the spiritual entity that
is made up of the family members who created the original spiritual branding of
the vulnerable person to verify that the vulnerable person's original spiritual
branding was correct."
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"Thomas", continued Pastor Ron, "I would like to add something to your example about the vulnerable person's family members forming a spiritual entity that communicates to the world the inaccurate spiritual branding that they have given to the vulnerable member of their family. I think we need to be aware that the vulnerable person himself might be a part (but only a small part) of the spiritual entity that broadcasts to the world an incorrect spiritual branding for him. If the vulnerable person is only a small part of the spiritual entity he would not have sufficient power in the spiritual entity to stop the other members from broadcasting an incorrect spiritual branding for him. If eventually the spiritual entity that is made up of the various family members started broadcasting an even more inaccurate spiritual branding for the vulnerable person, then it might be helpful if the vulnerable person could develop some insight into what was happening. The vulnerable person could maybe start to try to communicate to other people subconsciously that the spiritual vibrations that they are picking up (the spiritual vibrations that are being relayed by his community through him) that tells them he likes to hurt other people is not correct. He should also perhaps try to communicate to the people who he meets that even though he is a part of the spiritual entity that is made up of his family members, he is only a small part of that spiritual entity and he has not been able to get enough support from the other members of the spiritual entity when he has requested that they start broadcasting a more accurate version of the his spiritual branding."
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"Pastor
Ron", said Thomas, "if it's ok with you I'd like to go a bit off topic
for a minute of two. When I was in
"Well,
at first", Amber told us, "I was reluctant to get too close to him.
I was pretty sure that it would not develop into a serious relationship so I
felt kind of guilty getting involved with him. But still I sensed that he
was reaching out to me and that he wanted to get to know me. After a while
I realized that even though the exchanges of spiritual energy between us were
not strong enough for me to be able to get seriously involved with him, it
seemed to him like our relationship was serious. When I met him, I could
sense that he wanted to get involved with me but I didn't really understand why.
Now I understand why he was interested in me. His relationship with me was
the best relationship that he had ever had even though some of the people who
knew both of us at the time thought that I was just using him. What a lot
of people had trouble understanding at that time was that there was a logical
basis for us to have a relationship. Just like he had been exchanging
spiritual energy with girls who were similar to me (girls with normal spiritual
structures) in the past, I had been exchanging spiritual energy with other
spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guys in the past. He was
exchanging with me spiritual energy that he had exchanged with other girls in
the past and I was exchanging with him spiritual energy that I had exchanged in
the past with other spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guys."
Thomas thought for a moment and
then said, "When Amber left our table to help some of the other customers
Jeffrey commented to me that he could feel some very positive energy being
exchanged between Amber and myself, and he asked me why I had never gotten
involved romantically with Amber. I
explained to Jeffrey that most people as they are growing up develop two types
of emotions. They develop deep emotions for the people who they are really
close to emotionally, and they also develop a "practical" set of
emotions that they use when they are in situations where they are dealing with
people in their school while they are growing up or where they are dealing with
people in business types of situations when they start their working lives.
For example, a girl who is running for homecoming queen or for a class office
while in high school might develop "practical" relationships where she
merges the practical part of her soul with her fellow students for the purpose
of getting their votes in the school election. I
explained to Jeffrey that what I
think is happening between Amber and myself is that I am exchanging my practical
types of emotions with Amber and she is exchanging her practical types of
emotions with me. So even though the exchanges of spiritual energy between
us are positive, those exchanges of spiritual energy are not a good basis for
developing a serious relationship."
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"Thomas", said Pastor Ron, "to sum things up, I think that it could be useful for vulnerable people who have been given an incorrect spiritual branding to try to communicate subconsciously to the people who they meet that they are aware that the other person might be picking up conflicting spiritual vibrations from them. The vulnerable person should maybe try to communicate subconsciously to the people who he meets that he might have been given an incorrect spiritual branding that says that he likes to hurt other people. He should also perhaps try to communicate to the other person that over a period of time his spiritual branding has slowly changed to where other people now pick up spiritual vibrations from him that tells the other person that he likes to both hurt and confuse other people. I also think that the vulnerable person should try to communicate subconsciously to other people that he has tried unsuccessfully to get the people who gave him his original incorrect spiritually branding to correct his spiritual branding. And finally I think that he should try to communicate subconsciously to the people who he meets that the people who gave him his original incorrect spiritual branding have not only refused to correct his spiritual branding but that they have also created a myth that says that the vulnerable person was given every break imaginable in life when in actuality he was intentionally programmed to fail."
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"Pastor
Ron", said Thomas, "I really appreciate the insights that you have
given me. Thank you very much for letting me come out here tonight."
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One night in the spring of 2008 a young
man named Dan, who had lived in Chicago for several years, had a few minutes
free before he had to go to bed so he decided to do an online video chat session
with his friend Thomas. Dan knew that earlier in the evening Thomas had
visited the pastor of a church in the
"Hi Thomas", said Dan, "I
hope that it's not too late to call. I was hoping that you would be able
to fill me in on what you and Pastor Ron talked about tonight."
"I'm glad you called, Dan", said
Thomas. "I've been thinking about what Pastor Ron and I talked about
tonight, and I wanted to get your ideas about a couple of things that
Pastor Ron told me."
"Dan", continued Thomas.
"my conversation with Pastor Ron tonight started out with me reminding him
about what we talked about when you and I visited him two weeks ago. At
that time he told us about how most of us have been in situations where we were
going through a hard time and then we were very disappointed when the people
around us (who we hoped would encourage us during our time of trouble) actually
seemed to be happy about our misfortune (thereby making our pain even worse).
He explained to us that when a family is going through a hard time (such as a
death in the family or a financial set back) and a new family member comes
along, there is a danger that some of the more aggressive and unkind members of
the community that the family is a part of will start to put increased amounts
of pressure on the family in an effort to hurt the family at a time when they
are down and vulnerable. Some families can handle this type of pressure
and humiliation better than others, but it is not easy for anyone to feel
negative spiritual energy coming into them from members of their community when
they feel that those people should be trying to help them in their time of
difficulty. Pastor Ron told us he believes that when a family is pressured
in this sort of a way and a new member is born into the family, there is a
danger that the family will transfer the negative spiritual energy that is
coming into them from the members of their community that are pressuring the
family to the new family member. The other family members are able to keep
their equilibrium because they do not have to absorb the negative spiritual
energy that was previously coming into them. Pastor Ron told us he thinks
that there are quite a few spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people
(people who have had their spiritual energy stolen from them by other people in
the past) whose birth might have occurred at a time that was not convenient for
their family. Because of this fact (and because the family decided to put
the blame on the new member of the family) the new family member developed a
reputation in their community as being a person who liked to hurt other people
because it was believed that their birth hurt their family. He told us
that if this happened to a person this reputation (or spiritual branding) that
was given to them by the community that they were a part of would have followed
them as they went through school and also later on when they started their
working life. Pastor Ron gave us an example to explain what might be going
on between a person who has been spiritually branded as a person who likes to
hurt other people and the people who they meet. He asked us to picture in
our minds that when we are talking to another person, we send them spiritual
energy. We have some conscious control over this spiritual energy (which
we call personal spiritual energy). He asked us to also picture in our
minds that we send the person who we are talking to a more subconscious type of
spiritual energy. This spiritual energy is being relayed by our community
through us to the person who we are talking to. This spiritual energy
(which we call group spiritual energy) is comprised of the combined spiritual
energy of the people who we knew when we were growing up (or our community).
He said that if our community came to a consensus that we liked to hurt other
people, it would be hard for us to be effective at sending positive spiritual
energy to other people because while we were sending positive spiritual energy
to the other person consciously, that other person would also be picking up
subconscious vibrations from us that were made up of the negative group
spiritual energy that was being relayed through us by our community to that
other person. This negative group spiritual energy would communicate
to the other person that we were the types of people who like to hurt other
people."
Thomas paused for a moment and then continued, "Dan, at
this point in our conversation I told Pastor Ron about the online video chat
session that I had recently with Kala (Kala is an online psychic in India who
both Dan and Thomas had done online video chat sessions with). I told
Pastor Ron that I asked Kala if she could give me her insights about Pastor
Ron's ideas. Kala told me she thought that
it would be interesting to look at what happens when a spiritually and
psychologically vulnerable person who has been given a negative spiritual
branding starts to form relationships with other people. When the
spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person meets another person and that
other person sees that the vulnerable person has been spiritually branded as
someone who likes to hurt other people, it will be natural for that other person
to think that they will be able to form a relationship with him if they are
someone who likes to hurt other people. But when the relationship comes to
an end, the person who developed the relationship with the spiritually and
psychologically vulnerable person will come to the conclusion that he not only
likes to hurt other people but that he also likes to confuse other people.
They will come to this conclusion because they are confused about why their
relationship with the vulnerable person did not work out. It will not
occur to them that the problem might be with the vulnerable person's spiritual
branding (that maybe he is not really someone who likes to hurt other people).
This person who has just ended their relationship with the vulnerable person
will now add something new to the vulnerable person's spiritual branding.
They will add to his spiritual branding that he also likes to confuse other
people. Now when the vulnerable person meets a new person his community
will relay through him to that new person that he likes to hurt other people and
that he also likes to confuse other people."
"Dan",
continued Thomas, "in Kala's example, when someone ends a relationship with
a vulnerable person that was based on the vulnerable person's spiritual branding
as someone who likes to hurt other people, it will usually not occur to them
that the vulnerable person's spiritual branding was not accurate. But I
was thinking after talking to Kala that it might be possible that some of the
people who get involved with the vulnerable person might be suspicious that the
vulnerable person's original spiritual branding was incorrect. Some of
these people might go out into the Collective Subconscious and try to
spiritually contact the family members who set the stage originally for the
spiritual branding that was given to the vulnerable person."
"They might try to verify with the family members through the Collective Subconscious that the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding was correct. If the various family members who set up the vulnerable person's original incorrect spiritual branding were to start broadcasting a more accurate version of the vulnerable person's spiritual branding to the people who might from time to time (through the Collective Subconscious) question the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding, it would probably improve the vulnerable person's relationships with other people."
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"Dan", continued Thomas, "after hearing all of this Pastor Ron said he thought that it could be useful for vulnerable people who have been given an incorrect spiritual branding to try to communicate subconsciously to the people who they meet that they are aware that the other person might be picking up conflicting spiritual vibrations from them. The vulnerable person should maybe try to communicate subconsciously to the people who he meets that he has been given an incorrect spiritual branding that says that he likes to hurt other people. He should also perhaps try to communicate to the other person that over a period of time his spiritual branding has slowly changed to where other people now pick up spiritual vibrations from him that tells the other person that he likes to both hurt and confuse other people. Pastor Ron also thinks that the vulnerable person should try to communicate subconsciously to other people that he has tried unsuccessfully to get the people who gave him his original incorrect spiritually branding to correct his spiritual branding. And finally Pastor Ron thinks that the vulnerable person should try to communicate subconsciously to the people who he meets that the people who gave him his original incorrect spiritual branding have not only refused to correct his spiritual branding but that they have also created a myth that says that the vulnerable person was given every break imaginable when in actuality he was intentionally programmed to fail".
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"Dan",
said Thomas, "at this point in my conversation with Pastor Ron I told him a
little bit about what happened when I went back home to Los Angeles on my spring
break a few weeks ago. I told him that I went out to dinner with my friend
Jeffrey, who as you know is spiritually and psychologically vulnerable. A
friend of mine named Amber is a waitress at the restaurant where Jeffrey and I
had dinner. Amber had told me about how last summer she got involved with
a guy who was spiritually and psychologically vulnerable so I asked Amber to
come over to our table and tell Jeffrey about that relationship."
"Well,
at first", Amber told us, "I was reluctant to get too close to him.
I was pretty sure that it would not develop into a serious relationship so I
felt kind of guilty getting involved with him. But still I sensed that he
was reaching out to me and that he wanted to get to know me. After a while
I realized that even though the exchanges of spiritual energy between us were
not strong enough for me to be able to get seriously involved with him, it
seemed to him like our relationship was serious. When I met him, I could
sense that he wanted to get involved with me but I didn't really understand why.
Now I understand why he was interested in me. His relationship with me was
the best relationship that he had ever had even though some of the people who
knew both of us at the time thought that I was just using him. What a lot
of people had trouble understanding at that time was that there was a logical
basis for us to have a relationship. Just like he had been exchanging
spiritual energy with girls who were similar to me (girls with normal spiritual
structures) in the past, I had been exchanging spiritual energy with other
spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guys in the past. He was
exchanging with me spiritual energy that he had exchanged with other girls in
the past and I was exchanging with him spiritual energy that I had exchanged in
the past with other spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guys."
"Then I told Pastor Ron
that when Amber left our table to help some of the other customers Jeffrey
commented to me that he could feel some very positive energy being exchanged
between Amber and myself, and he asked me why I had never gotten involved
romantically with Amber. I
explained to Jeffrey that most people as they are growing up develop two types
of emotions. They develop deep emotions for the people who they are really
close to emotionally, and they also develop a "practical" set of
emotions that they use when they are in situations where they are dealing with
people in their school while they are growing up or where they are dealing with
people in business types of situations when they start their working lives.
I explained to Jeffrey that what I think is happening between Amber and myself is that I am
exchanging my practical types of emotions with Amber and she is exchanging her
practical types of emotions with me. So even though the exchanges of
spiritual energy between us are positive, those exchanges of spiritual energy
are not a good basis for developing a serious relationship."
"After
I explained what had happened at the restaurant to Pastor Ron, he said that what
I had told him about Amber's involvement with a spiritually and psychologically
vulnerable guy explained why people who are spiritually and psychologically
vulnerable might have trouble understanding what is happening to them when they
get emotionally involved with another person. Pastor Ron said he thought
that if people who were spiritually and psychologically vulnerable could realize
that they have only been exchanging their spiritual energy with the practical
part of the soul of the person who they think they are getting involved with,
then it might be easier for them to "let go" when the other person
tells them to back off."
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"Thomas",
said Dan, "As you know, I am also a spiritually and psychologically
vulnerable guy. Why do you think that it is sometimes hard for a
vulnerable guy to avoid showing interest in a woman who is only merging the
practical part of her soul with him?"
"Dan", said Thomas, "that is a question that has been on my mind since I got home tonight after my visit with Pastor Ron. After thinking about it for a while I started to realize that the answer to that question might have something to do with what Pastor Ron said tonight. Pastor Ron said that sometimes the family of a vulnerable person might create a myth about the vulnerable person is not true. For example, the family might only give the vulnerable person a small position in the spiritual entity that is made up of the various family members and then create a myth that says that the vulnerable person has an equal position in the family. As I got to thinking about this it occurred to me that a family that creates a myth such as this one might create another myth when the vulnerable family members starts to form relationships with people outside of their family. The family might be afraid that someone outside of the family might help the vulnerable person to develop their emotions so that they can become stronger. Because the family is afraid of this happening they might create a myth that says that the vulnerable person is capable of forming deep relationships with other people. If the family can convince the people in their community that the vulnerable person has strong emotions, then people outside of the family will think that the vulnerable family member does not need their help."
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Thomas thought for a moment and then continued, "Dan, as you
and I have discussed many times before, everyone begins the process of
exchanging their subconscious spiritual thoughts and feelings with other people
shortly after they are born. Some of the spiritual information (spiritual
energy) that they "pick up" from other people early in life may
contain cultural and religious myths that have no basis in fact, but those
cultural and religious myths will seem magical to them and they will allow those
myths to go deep into their souls because the myths will come into them in a
magical way (through the automatic exchange of subconscious spiritual energy
with other people through the Collective Subconscious). Dan, when
you meet a woman and she merges the practical part of her soul with you there is
more going on that just an exchange of spiritual energy between you and the
practical part of the woman's soul. The woman who you meet is also
exchanging her spiritual energy through the Collective Subconscious with other
people who she knows. Dan, you might have gotten into a pattern where
you are interfacing with a woman (who I will call a "primary woman")
who is only merging the practical part of her soul with you. But this
primary woman is relaying the spiritual energy that she picks up from you to
other women who she knows (who I will call "secondary women") through
the Collective Subconscious. And she might be relaying the spiritual
energy that she picks up from the secondary women who she knows to you through
the Collective Subconscious. What I am saying is that when you meet a
woman who is merging only the practical part of her soul with you, at that
moment you might be picking up some fairly strong emotional feelings. You
might be picking up some strong emotional feelings because you can sense that
there is a magical exchange of spiritual energy taking place between yourself
and the secondary women who this woman knows. The secondary women are
receiving your spiritual energy from the primary woman and you are receiving the
spiritual energy of the secondary women from the primary woman.
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"Dan", continued Thomas, "I think that vulnerable guys might have a problem when dealing with a primary woman who only merges the practical part of her soul with them because of the myths that have been created by the vulnerable guy's family. Because the vulnerable guy's family broadcasts out to the world a myth that says that the vulnerable guy does not have weak emotions, it does not occur to anyone (including the primary women and secondary women who he gets to know) that his entire emotional structure might be based on his interfacing with a primary woman who relays his spiritual energy through the Collective Subconscious to the secondary women who she knows. The end result of all of this is that the primary woman will be upset with the vulnerable guy for developing emotional ties with her friends who are secondary women and then not developing those relationships. And the secondary women will be upset with the vulnerable guy because they believe that he has been "leading them on" emotionally. The primary woman and the secondary women do not understand that the vulnerable guy needs the assistance of a primary woman (who serves as a relay point) in order for him to be able to develop a relationship with a secondary woman".
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"Thomas", said Dan, "you have given me a lot to think about tonight and I really appreciate your insights. Have a good night."
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One evening in the spring of 2008 a young
man named Dan, who had lived in Chicago for several years, and his friend
Thomas, who was a college student in Chicago, were on their way to visit the
pastor of a church in the Chicago area who Thomas had met on the airplane when
he went back to Los Angeles for his spring break a few weeks earlier. When
the pastor from
Dan and Thomas had visited Pastor Ron
before so when they got to Pastor Ron's church they went to a side door that
they knew would be open and they went straight to Pastor Ron's office.
After a couple of minutes of exchanging greetings Pastor Ron said "Thomas,
on the phone you said that you and Dan had some questions about spiritual things
that you guys have been discussing recently. If you or Dan could start out
by telling me some of the things that you guys have been discussing recently,
I'd be happy to give you any insights that I might have when you are done."
"That sounds good", said Thomas.
"Pastor Ron, the last time that Dan and I were here you explained
to us that when a family is going through a hard time (such as a death in the
family or a financial set back) and a new family member comes along, there is a
danger that some of the more aggressive and unkind members of the community that
the family is a part of will start to put increased amounts of pressure on the
family in an effort to hurt the family at a time when they are down and
vulnerable. Some families can handle this type of pressure and humiliation
better than others, but it is not easy for anyone to feel negative spiritual
energy coming into them from members of their community when they feel that
those people should be trying to help them in their time of difficulty.
You told us you believe that when a family is pressured in this sort of a way
and a new member is born into the family, there is a danger that the family will
transfer the negative spiritual energy that is coming into them from the members
of their community that are pressuring the family to the new family member.
The other family members are able to keep their equilibrium because they do not
have to absorb the negative spiritual energy that was previously coming into
them. You told us you think that there are quite a few spiritually and
psychologically vulnerable people (people who have had their spiritual energy
stolen from them by other people in the past) whose birth might have occurred at
a time that was not convenient for their family. Because of this fact (and
because the family decided to put the blame on the new member of the family) the
new family member developed a reputation in their community as being a person
who liked to hurt other people because it was believed that their birth hurt
their family. You told us that if this happened to a person this
reputation (or spiritual branding) that was given to them by the community that
they were a part of would have followed them as they went through school and
also later on when they started their working life. You gave us an example
to explain what might be going on between a person who has been spiritually
branded as a person who likes to hurt other people and the people who they meet.
You asked us to picture in our minds that when we are talking to another person,
we send them spiritual energy. We have some conscious control over this
spiritual energy (which we call personal spiritual energy). You asked us
to picture in our minds that we also send the person who we are talking to a
more subconscious type of spiritual energy. This spiritual energy is being
relayed by our community through us to the person who we are talking to.
This spiritual energy (which we call group spiritual energy) is comprised of the
combined spiritual energy of the people who we knew when we were growing up (or
our community). You said that if our community came to a consensus that we
liked to hurt other people, it would be hard for us to be effective at sending
positive spiritual energy to other people because while we were sending positive
spiritual energy to the other person consciously, that other person would also
be picking up subconscious vibrations from us that were made up of the negative
group spiritual energy that was being relayed through us by our community to
that other person. This negative group spiritual energy would
communicate to the other person that we were the types of people who like to
hurt other people."
"Pastor Ron", continued Thomas, "I was
thinking that it would
be interesting to look at what might happen when a spiritually and
psychologically vulnerable person who has been given a negative spiritual
branding starts to form relationships with other people. When the
spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person meets another person and that
other person sees that the vulnerable person has been spiritually branded as
someone who likes to hurt other people, it will be natural for that other person
to think that they will be able to form a relationship with him if they are
someone who likes to hurt other people. But when the relationship comes to
an end, the person who developed the relationship with the spiritually and
psychologically vulnerable person will come to the conclusion that he not only
likes to hurt other people but that he also likes to confuse other people.
They will come to this conclusion because they are confused about why their
relationship with the vulnerable person did not work out. It will not
occur to them that the problem might be with the vulnerable person's spiritual
branding (that maybe he is not really someone who likes to hurt other people).
This person who has just ended their relationship with the vulnerable person
will now add something new to the vulnerable person's spiritual branding.
They will add to his spiritual branding that he also likes to confuse other
people. Now when the vulnerable person meets a new person his community
will relay through him to that new person that he likes to hurt other people and
that he also likes to confuse other people."
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might try to verify with the family members through the Collective Subconscious
that the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding was correct. If
the various family members who set up the vulnerable person's original incorrect
spiritual branding were to start broadcasting a more accurate version of the
vulnerable person's spiritual branding to the people who might from time to time
(through the Collective Subconscious) question the vulnerable person's original
spiritual branding, it would probably improve the vulnerable person's
relationships with other people."
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"Pastor
Ron", continued Thomas, "the last time I talked to you I told you a
little bit about what happened when I went back home to Los Angeles on my spring
break a few weeks ago. I told you that I went out to dinner with my friend
Jeffrey, who as you know is spiritually and psychologically vulnerable. A
friend of mine named Amber is a waitress at the restaurant where Jeffrey and I
had dinner. Amber had told me about how last summer she got involved with
a guy who was spiritually and psychologically vulnerable so I asked Amber to
come over to our table and tell Jeffrey about that relationship."
"After Amber told Jeffrey
about her relationship with the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy
she left our table to help some of the other customers. At this point
Jeffrey commented to me that he could feel some very positive energy being
exchanged between Amber and myself, and he asked me why I had never gotten
involved romantically with Amber. I
explained to Jeffrey that most people as they are growing up develop two types
of emotions. They develop deep emotions for the people who they are really
close to emotionally, and they also develop a "practical" set of
emotions that they use when they are in situations where they are dealing with
people in their school while they are growing up or where they are dealing with
people in business types of situations when they start their working lives.
I explained to Jeffrey that what I think is happening between Amber and myself is that I am
exchanging my practical types of emotions with Amber and she is exchanging her
practical types of emotions with me. So even though the exchanges of
spiritual energy between us are positive, those exchanges of spiritual energy
are not a good basis for developing a serious relationship."
"Pastor
Ron, I remember that after I told you about my conversation with Jeffrey where
we talked about the difference between deep emotions and practical emotions, you
said you thought that if people who were spiritually and psychologically
vulnerable could realize that they have only been exchanging their spiritual
energy with the practical part of the soul of the person who they think they are
getting involved with, then it might be easier for them to "let go"
when the other person tells them to back off."
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"Pastor Ron", continued Thomas, "as we have discussed before, everyone begins the process of exchanging their subconscious spiritual thoughts and feelings with other people shortly after they are born. Some of the spiritual information (spiritual energy) that they "pick up" from other people early in life might contain cultural and religious myths that have no basis in fact, but those cultural and religious myths will seem magical to them and they will allow those myths to go deep into their souls because the myths will come into them in a magical way (through the automatic exchange of subconscious spiritual energy with other people through the Collective Subconscious). When a vulnerable guy meets a woman who is only merging the practical part of her soul with him, there is more going on than just an exchange of spiritual energy between the vulnerable guy and the practical part of the woman's soul. The woman who the vulnerable guy meets is also exchanging her spiritual energy through the Collective Subconscious with other people who she knows. I think that a lot of spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guys might have gotten into a pattern where they are interfacing with a woman (who I call a "primary woman") who is only merging the practical part of her soul with the vulnerable guy. But this primary woman is relaying the spiritual energy that she picks up from the vulnerable guy to other women who she knows (who I call "secondary women") through the Collective Subconscious. And she might be relaying the spiritual energy that she picks up from the secondary women who she knows to the vulnerable guy through the Collective Subconscious. When a vulnerable guy meets a woman who is merging only the practical part of her soul with him, at that moment he might be picking up some fairly strong emotional feelings. He might be picking up some strong emotional feelings because he can sense that there is a magical exchange of spiritual energy taking place between himself and the secondary women who this woman knows. The secondary women are receiving the vulnerable guy's spiritual energy from the primary woman and the vulnerable guy is receiving the spiritual energy of the secondary women from the primary woman."
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"Pastor
Ron, I think that because of the fact that the vulnerable guy's family
broadcasts out to the world a myth that says that the vulnerable guy has strong
emotions, it does not occur to anyone (including the primary women and the
secondary women who he gets to know) that his entire emotional structure might
be based on his interfacing with a primary woman who relays his spiritual energy
through the Collective Subconscious to the secondary women who she knows. The
end result of this is that the primary woman will be upset with the vulnerable
guy for developing emotional ties with her friends who are secondary women and
then not trying to further develop those relationships. And the secondary
women will be upset with the vulnerable guy because they believe that he has
been "leading them on" emotionally. The primary woman and the
secondary women do not understand that the vulnerable guy needs the assistance
of a primary woman (who serves as a relay point) in order for him to be able to
develop a relationship with a secondary woman".
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"When
a vulnerable guy meets a primary man who is merging only the practical part of
his soul with the vulnerable guy, at that moment the vulnerable guy might be
picking up some fairly strong feelings of male bonding. He might be
picking up those feelings because he can sense that there is a magical exchange
of spiritual energy taking place between himself and the secondary men who the
primary man knows. The secondary men are receiving the vulnerable guy's
spiritual energy from the primary man and the vulnerable guy is receiving the
spiritual energy of the secondary men from the primary man."
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"Pastor
Ron", said Thomas, "I really appreciate the insights that you have
given us. Thank you very much for letting us come out here tonight."
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