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One night in the spring of 2008 a young man named Dan, who had lived in Chicago for several years, was getting ready to meet his friend Thomas.  Dan had a little bit of free time before he was going to meet Thomas so he decided to go online with his computer and try to contact an online psychic in India who Thomas had told him about.  After a couple of minutes he saw an ad for the psychic in India who had given Thomas a free introductory online video chat session when Thomas was in Los Angeles for his spring break a couple of weeks earlier.  Dan entered his contact information and he entered some information about what he wanted to talk to the psychic about onto the website page where he saw the ad.  Soon there was a beeping sound from a call that was coming into the video chat program on Dan's computer from the psychic in India.  When he answered the call he could see a woman with long dark hair on the right side of his screen and he could see himself on the left.  A very friendly voice said, "Hello, Dan, I am Kala."  (Dan, Kala, and Thomas are people who are real for the purposes of this story but who are not in real life).

"Dan", said Kala, "I can see from the information that you entered onto the website that you wanted to talk to me about some things that you and your friend Thomas have been talking about recently.  I enjoyed very much the online video chat session that I had with your friend Thomas a couple of weeks ago."

"Thomas enjoyed that session very much too", said Dan. "If it's ok Kala, I would like to start out by filling you in on what Thomas and I talked about last week when he got back from Los Angeles ."

"That's a great idea, Dan", said Kala"Let's go ahead and get started."

"OK", said Dan.  "Last week when I got together with Thomas, he started out by telling me that when he was in Los Angeles on spring break he went out to dinner with his friend Jeffrey.  As I'm sure you know from talking with Thomas, Jeffrey is a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person and he has become discouraged recently.  Thomas wanted to try to give Jeffrey some insights that might help him to feel better.  Thomas started out by telling Jeffrey that he believes that everyone is constantly exchanging spiritual energy with other people and that our exchanges of spiritual energy with other people are an important part of our relationships with other people.  Thomas explained to Jeffrey how sometimes people talk about how their current lover was able to tie up their emotional loose ends and was able to help to bring their life into perspective.  He explained to Jeffrey how it almost seemed to those people that the spiritual energy that they had been exchanging with their previous lovers (who were no longer physically present) was transferred to their new lover (who was physically present).  Thomas explained to Jeffrey that he believes that people such as Jeffrey who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable also have a tendency to transfer their exchanges of spiritual energy from people who they knew in the past to people who they know in the present."

"The conversation that Thomas had with Jeffrey took place at a restaurant in Los Angeles that Thomas likes very much where one of the waitresses is a girl who Thomas knows named Amber.  Amber had told Thomas about how last summer she got involved with a guy who was spiritually and psychologically vulnerable like Jeffrey so Thomas asked her come over to their table and tell Jeffrey about that relationship.  Amber explained that at first she was reluctant to get too close to the guy.  She was pretty sure that it would not develop into a serious relationship so she felt kind of guilty getting involved with him.  But still she sensed that he was reaching out to her and that he wanted to get to know her.  After a while Amber realized that even though the exchanges of spiritual energy between her and the guy who was spiritually and psychologically vulnerable were not strong enough for her to be able to get seriously involved with him, it seemed to him like his relationship with Amber was serious.  Looking back on the experience Amber thinks that there was a logical basis for her to have a relationship with the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy.  He had been exchanging spiritual energy in the past with girls who were similar to Amber (girls with normal spiritual structures), and she had been exchanging spiritual energy with spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guys in the past.  The spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy was transferring to Amber the spiritual energy that he had exchanged with other girls who he knew in the past and she was transferring to him spiritual energy that she had exchanged in the past with other guys she knew who were spiritually and psychologically vulnerable."

"When Amber left their table to help some of the other customers Jeffrey commented to Thomas that he could feel some very positive energy being exchanged between Thomas and Amber.  He asked Thomas why he had never gotten involved romantically with Amber.  In answer to Jeffrey's question about Thomas and Amber he explained to Jeffrey that most people as they are growing up develop two types of emotions.  They develop deep emotions for the people who they are really close to emotionally, and they also develop a "practical" set of emotions that they use when they are in situations where they are dealing with people in their school while they are growing up or where they are dealing with people in business types of situations when they start their working lives.  For example, a girl who is running for homecoming queen or for a class office while in high school might develop "practical" relationships where she merges the practical part of her soul with her fellow students for the purpose of getting their votes in the school election.  This sort of thing also happens quite often in business situations where a salesperson, for example, might feel that it is important for them to form a temporary spiritual bond with their client so that they will be able to influence the client when they need the client to do something that they want them to do (such as when they need the client to sign a contract).  The salesperson knows how to use spiritual links to influence the client's thinking at that important point where the client might be tempted to back out of the deal.  Then Thomas explained to Jeffrey that what he thinks is happening between him and Amber is that he is merging the practical part of his soul with her and she is merging the practical part of her soul with him.  So even though the exchanges of spiritual energy between Thomas and Amber are positive, those exchanges of spiritual energy are not a good basis for developing a serious relationship."  

Dan thought for a moment and then continued, "at this point in the conversation Jeffrey told Thomas that he knew that salespeople were often very influential in guiding the thinking of their customers when they were trying to sell their customers something, but he said that he didn't really understand how salespeople work their magic."

"Thomas then explained to Jeffrey his theory about how salespeople are able to guide the thinking of their customer in a manner that sometimes seems to be magical.  Thomas told him he believes that salespeople will, for a short period of time, merge a part of their soul with the soul of their customer.  They merge the part of their soul that is practical with the part of the customer's soul that is practical.  It might seem to the customer that the salesperson is reading their mind when the customer purchases a product that they had not planned to buy when they started talking to the salesperson.  When the salesperson opens up the practical part of their soul to the customer, they are not only guiding the customer with what they are saying to the customer but they are also guiding the customer in a very deep sort of a manner that they don't really understand but that they know is effective.  Then Thomas gave Jeffrey an example situation to explain what happens when a salesperson allows their customer to use their soul when they are trying to help the customer to make a decision.  He explained that if two individuals go into a car dealership and test drive a new car, one of the individuals might take the car out in the country or out on the freeway to see how fast it will go.  Another person might use the car to pick up their kids after school.  When they come back and the salesperson realizes that the test drive has helped the customer to overcome the doubts that they originally had, the salesperson will be happy with the end result, but they will not know where the customer went on their test drive.  The difference between a salesperson allowing a customer to test drive a car and a salesperson allowing a customer to test drive their soul (by merging the practical part of their soul with the practical part of the customer's soul) is that when a salesperson lets a customer test drive a car they will have no idea where the customer took the car.  But when a salesperson lets a customer test drive their soul, the salesperson might know at a deep subconscious level what the customer had been thinking during the period of time when the salesperson had merged their soul with the soul of the customer."

"Then Thomas brought up once again the example that he had given Jeffrey about a high school girl merging the practical part of her soul with her fellow students for the purpose of getting votes in an election.  He explained to Jeffrey that when she does this she will notice that one of three things might happen.  First, the student might not vote for her and she will have wasted her effort in merging the practical part of her soul with that student. Second, the student might vote for her and her effort will not have been wasted.  Third, a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy in her class who had previously been a casual friend might start to think that there was a basis for him to develop a serious relationship with her.  Thomas explained to Jeffrey that it is his belief that many spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people only develop a practical set of emotions and that is why they might think that there is a basis for them to develop a serious relationship with someone who is only merging the practical part of their soul with them."

"At this point Jeffrey asked Thomas to explain in a little more detail the dynamics of what happens when a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person starts to believe that they are developing a serious relationship with a person who is only merging the practical part of their soul with them.  In answer to Jeffrey's question Thomas gave him another example.  He asked Jeffrey to imagine that he got to know a girl named Vanessa who merged the practical part of her soul with him for a short time.  While that took place Jeffrey was exchanging his spiritual energy with Vanessa and she was exchanging her spiritual energy with Jeffrey.  Thomas explained to Jeffrey that compared to the amount of spiritual energy that most people exchange with other people he might not have been exchanging a lot of spiritual energy with Vanessa, but he thought that there was a magical exchange of spiritual energy taking place between him and Vanessa because he could sense that her subconscious mind was communicating with his subconscious mind.  Then Thomas asked Jeffrey to further imagine that another girl came along who also merged the practical part of her soul with him.  It was similar to his exchange of spiritual energy with Vanessa, but it was different because now his subconscious mind was communicating with this new girl's subconscious mind.  Thomas explained to Jeffrey that it was his belief that during the time that he knew these girls, he would have been exchanging his spiritual energy with them through the Collective Subconscious when he was with them, and he would have been exchanging his spiritual energy with them through the Collective Subconscious when he was not actually with them."

 

 

"After Thomas had explained his ideas about spiritual energy Jeffrey told Thomas that he thought his ideas about people communicating subconsciously through the Collective Subconscious made sense.  Jeffrey said he thought that gaining insight into how the subconscious mind works might help him to learn how to communicate better with other people and might help him to get along better with other people.  For example, Jeffrey told Thomas he thought it might be useful for him to try to program his subconscious mind to communicate to the subconscious minds of the girls who he meets in the future that he has been misinterpreting the situation in the past and that he is sorry if his subconscious mind is sending out signals to their subconscious minds that are stronger than what is appropriate.  Jeffrey then said that he is not the type of person who would want to barge in on someone uninvited when they are at home at night after a long day of work.  But by Jeffrey trying to form a strong relationship with a girl who is only merging the practical part of her soul with him (the part of her soul that she usually only uses for work situations), he realizes that he might be getting her to think about him more than she would like to think about him during her free time when she is not supposed to have to think about things that are related to work.  He realized that even though he does not verbally say things to girls that might make them feel uncomfortable, his subconscious mind might be making suggestions to their subconscious minds that they consider to be inappropriate due to the fact that the girl is only merging the practical part of her soul with him."

"Kala", continued Dan, "after Thomas had finished telling me about the conversation that he had with Jeffrey the previous week, I reminded Thomas that Jeffrey is not his only friend who is spiritually and psychologically vulnerable.  I reminded Thomas that I have fought many of the same battles that Jeffrey has fought.  I told Thomas that I liked Jeffrey's idea about the importance of him realizing that his subconscious mind is communicating with the subconscious minds of the girls who he meets and that this below the surface communication between Jeffrey and the girls who he meets might be making them feel uncomfortable.  But having tried personally to do variations of what Jeffrey is suggesting where his subconscious mind tries to subconsciously apologize to the subconscious minds of the girls who he meets for coming on too strongly, I had to tell Thomas that I didn't think that was going to totally solve the problem.  I told Thomas that I think that Jeffrey has to go further and not only change the way that his subconscious mind communicates with the subconscious minds of the girls who he knows, but that Jeffrey also has to change the way that his subconscious mind communicates with the subconscious minds of the guys who he knows."

"Thomas and I have discussed several times before how many spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people have been made into spiritual slaves by people who have taken some of their spiritual energy away from them.  One of the ways that people steal spiritual energy from another person is by saying something unfair about them or doing something unfair to them and then denying that they have done anything wrong.  Whenever a group makes a person into their spiritual slave by treating them unfairly, the one who is the spiritual slave starts contributing spiritual energy to the other members of the group.  The ones who dominate the spiritual slave through the years care about that person very deeply because of what the spiritual slave does to strengthen the group, not because they want the spiritual slave to become stronger.  They might even at times ask the spiritual slave what they need to help make them stronger.  But then the ones who asked the spiritual slave what they needed to become stronger will make sure that the spiritual slave never receives whatever it is that will make them stronger.  At this point I reminded Thomas how he had told Jeffrey that Thomas and Amber were only merging the practical parts of their souls with each other and how Thomas knew that this was not a good basis for developing a serious relationship.  I then told Thomas I believe that the guys who try to dominate spiritual slaves such as Jeffrey and myself know for certain, just like Thomas knows for certain, that they cannot develop a serious relationship with a girl if they are only merging the practical part of their soul with her.  I told Thomas I think that the guys who try to dominate spiritual slaves such as Jeffrey and myself will try to make us believe (both while communicating with us verbally and while communicating with us subconsciously) that we will eventually be able to develop a serious relationship with a girl who is only merging the practical part of her soul with us.  This tricks us into thinking that we are better off to continue going down the same path that we are presently on rather than trying to make a change.  The ones who are dominating us want us to stay where we are.  That is why I believe that it is important for Jeffrey and myself to communicate to the subconscious minds of the guys who we know that we are suspicious when they tell us, both in verbal communication and in subconscious communication, that we will eventually be able to develop a serious relationship with a girl who is only merging the practical part of her soul with us."    

"At this point I told Thomas I knew that he might be thinking that while in theory it makes sense for Jeffrey and myself to try to stop other people from overpowering us spiritually, it will be hard for us to actually make this happen.  It will be hard for us to make this happen because the people who dominate spiritual slaves such as Jeffrey and myself usually have more spiritual energy than we do.  I told Thomas I think that in order for people such as Jeffrey and myself to avoid being overpowered spiritually through the Collective Subconscious by the people who are dominating us, it is important for us to come up with a framework for understanding (and for believing in) spiritual energy exchanges.  I told him I thought that Jeffrey and I should maybe come up with a variation of Pascal's Wager."

"Thomas liked that idea.  He pointed out that when my subconscious mind and Jeffrey's subconscious mind try to confront the subconscious minds of the guys who are trying to dominate us and mislead us with false information, their subconscious minds are likely to let us know that there is no way that we will be able to overpower them spiritually at a subconscious level through the Collective Subconscious.  Their subconscious minds will tell our subconscious minds that we are basing our argument (that they are destroying us on a subconscious level by giving us false information) on the idea that people exchange spiritual energy with other people through the Collective Subconscious.  They will argue that we do not really truly believe that people exchange spiritual energy with each other through the Collective Subconscious because we do not have absolute scientific proof.  They will argue that for this reason we will not have enough faith to stop them from overpowering us spiritually on a subconscious level.  Thomas then said that what Jeffrey and I can do is to subconsciously communicate to the people who are trying to spiritually overpower us that while we might not have absolute scientific proof that people exchange spiritual energy with other people through the Collective Subconscious, we do believe deep down in our hearts that there is a logical reason for us to believe that exchanges of spiritual energy between people through the Collective Subconscious actually do take place.  We have a logical reason to bet (or wager) that people exchange spiritual energy with other people through the Collective Subconscious because if it is true that people do exchange spiritual energy through the Collective Subconscious, and if we do not have a strategy for dealing with that, then we will continue to allow other people to hurt us by stealing our spiritual energy.  The potential negative consequences for us are too great and too damaging if it is true that this exchange of spiritual energy does take place and if we have no defense against the people who are misleading us with false information and who are stealing our spiritual energy."

 

 

Kala thought for a moment and then said, "Dan, I like very much the variation on Pascal's Wager (Dan's Wager) that you and Thomas have developed.  Dan, did Thomas mention anything to you about a conversation that he had on the airplane when he was going back to Los Angeles on spring break with a pastor from the Chicago area ?"

"No, I don't think he did", said Dan.

"Well Dan", said Kala, "the pastor who Thomas talked to on the airplane was headed to Los Angeles for the yearly annual meeting of his church.  When he met Thomas on the airplane he told Thomas that he could call him Pastor Ron.  If it's ok with you I'd like to talk about some of the things that Thomas discussed with Pastor Ron while he was on his way back to Los Angeles for his spring break.  I think that it has some relevance to the things that we have been talking about."

Kala continued, "Dan, I am sure that you are aware that Thomas is a bit of a skeptic when it comes to things of a spiritual nature.  When Thomas met Pastor Ron on the airplane he asked Pastor Ron how it could be possible for a person in a church meeting to speak in tongues (to speak in a language that they have never learned).  Thomas had heard that sort of thing had happened before and he wondered if there was a logical way to explain what was happening when people spoke in tongues.  Pastor Ron told Thomas that he thinks that we ourselves might be the mechanism for apparently supernatural phenomenon such as when people speak in tongues or when a sick person is delirious and they seem to be speaking to someone who is not in the room.  He believes that every person on earth communicates subconsciously with each other by exchanging spiritual energy through the Collective Subconscious."  

"Pastor Ron told Thomas that he thinks it is possible that when this type of spiritual event occurs someone at a meeting in their office in Chicago might be communicating subconsciously (through the Collective Subconscious) with a person who is speaking in tongues in a church meeting in another city.  The person in Chicago might be providing feelings of comfort to that person who is speaking in tongues.  Another person who is in Eastern Europe might also be communicating subconsciously with the same person in the church meeting who is speaking in tongues.  This other person might be providing the foreign language component that is being used in this spiritual event.  Pastor Ron feels that there might be several people from different parts of the world participating in the spiritual event with none of them being consciously aware of their involvement in what is taking place.  And he also thinks that something similar might be happening in the Collective Subconscious when a person is sick or delirious and where they appear to be speaking to someone who is not in the room.  They may actually be talking to someone who is trying to comfort them through the Collective Subconscious."

 

 

"Then Thomas told Pastor Ron he knew that some people believe that when we die our souls remain in the Collective Subconscious and perform tasks such as helping people who are still living when they take part in spiritual events such as the ones that they had been discussing.  Thomas told Pastor Ron that he thought that this would be a very cold and a very limited sort of an afterlife.  In answer to his comment, Pastor Ron explained to Thomas that spiritual energy travels between us and other people so quickly that we are not consciously aware of it.  For this reason, it seems to us that the spiritual world is limited and non-fulfilling because we can only sense, or can only see, the spiritual world in a very limited sort of a way.  Pastor Ron believes that the spiritual things below the surface that we cannot see are probably very rich and very fulfilling."

"Dan", continued Kala, "after Thomas told me about his conversation with Pastor Ron, I told him that I very much liked Pastor Ron's ideas about the afterlife.  But I also told him that I think that there are a lot of pastors and other church people in your country who would challenge the idea that there might be an afterlife where there is no Hell.  You mentioned earlier how it is very difficult for people who are spiritual slaves to break free of their spiritual bondage.  It is very difficult because the people who have made them into their spiritual slaves do not want to lose the extra spiritual energy that they receive when a spiritual slave is forced to give some of their spiritual energy to the other members of the group.  Dan, if you asked twenty people if they believe that spiritual slavery is old fashioned and that no one should be forced to give their spiritual energy to other people, you would probably get many different opinions.  One person might say, 'yes, it is time for mankind to move onward in its evolution and stop the old fashioned spiritual practice of robbing Peter to pay Paul (taking one person's spiritual energy and giving it to other people).'  But another person might say, 'wait a minute.  Let's be realistic.  If it is true that we have been taking spiritual energy from the people who we have made into spiritual slaves and that we have been giving that spiritual energy to the other members of society, and if we suddenly start to give those people an even break and start to treat them equally, then we are going to have a problem on our hands.  It is true that the people who are spiritual slaves would probably enjoy the feeling they would get if they started to take back some of the spiritual energy that they had been forced to give to other people.  But you cannot expect that the people who have benefitted from stealing spiritual energy from other people are going to feel good about having to give that spiritual energy back.'  In my opinion, Dan, there is a reason why many pastors and other church people continue holding on to the idea that there is a Hell.  I think they know that the myth of a physical place called Hell is not real, but they know that the spiritual slaves who have been forced to give up some of their spiritual energy for the benefit of the group are living in a type of living Hell where they do not have the amounts of spiritual energy that are necessary to compete in this world.  I am not saying that the people in the church are the only ones who use other people as spiritual slaves.  That would be very unfair, and it would be unfair to claim that all church people believe that it is ok to use other people as spiritual slaves.   But I do think that there are a lot of people in the church today who feel that the only way to keep the myth of Hell alive is by continuing to force some individuals to endure suffering in their roles as spiritual slaves where they must give up some of their spiritual energy for the benefit of the group.  How can the skeptics continue to claim that there is no Hell when all of us see people everyday in our own cities who are living in a type of spiritual Hell?"

"Dan", continued Kala, "in my opinion it is important for spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people such as Jeffrey and yourself to somehow try to program your subconscious minds to do a few different things.  Like you mentioned earlier, it might be a good idea for you to subconsciously apologize to the subconscious minds of the girls who you meet for coming on too strongly to the practical parts of their souls.  I also think that you should try to subconsciously communicate to the subconscious minds of the guys who have been dominating you through the years that because you have chosen (with your variation of Pascal's Wager) to believe deep down in your heart that people exchange spiritual energy with each other through the Collective Subconscious, it will not be as easy for them to overpower you spiritually in the future as it has been in the past."

"The final thing I would like you to remember, Dan, is that you might someday meet a church person who tries to make you feel guilty for your lack of faith in the religious myths.  You might be confused about why this makes you feel uneasy considering the fact that you do not really believe in the myths of Heaven and Hell.  In these situations, I think you might be confused because while the church person is saying to your face (saying to you consciously) that they believe in the myth of Heaven and Hell and that they do not believe that people exchange spiritual energy with each other through the Collective Subconscious, I believe that their subconscious mind is communicating to your subconscious mind that they know that the myth of God is not real, but that they are convinced that people actually do exchange spiritual energy with other people through the Collective Subconscious.  This individual knows that you get confused when you talk to people like them.  While you are talking to this person your conscious mind is trying to tell your subconscious mind that this person believes in God but does not believe in spiritual energy transfers through the Collective Subconscious.  At the same time your subconscious mind is trying to tell your conscious mind that the subconscious vibrations that it is picking up from the church person indicate that the reverse is actually true.  Hopefully with insight into the situation in the future when you meet a person who says one thing to your face (or your conscious mind) and says something else to your subconscious mind, you will, with insight into the situation, not feel the conflict that we all feel when our conscious mind and our subconscious mind are not in agreement (or not in alignment).  And once again, try to communicate to these people subconsciously that you have developed a variation of Pascal's Wager (Dan's Wager) that allows you to believe that exchanges of spiritual energy between yourself and other people actually do take place and that this will hopefully help to better defend yourself against people such as them in the future when they try to steal your spiritual energy.  Dan, the new faith that you hopefully will be able to develop by using your variation of Pascal's Wager might not seem like a lot of faith to some people, but it will probably be more faith than you had before, and I hope that it will get you started on a pathway to a deeper and a more satisfying type of spiritual fulfillment."

 

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One night in the spring of 2008 a young man named Dan, who had lived in Chicago for several years, was sitting at a table at his favorite pizza restaurant with his friend Thomas.  After Dan and Thomas had placed their orders Dan said, "Thomas, I've been thinking about the conversation that we had last week about your friend Jeffrey who you spent some time with recently when you were in Los Angeles on your spring break.  I hope you don't mind too much but a little earlier tonight I went online with my computer and I had an online video chat session with the psychic in India who you told me about last week.  I had a very interesting conversation with Kala about Jeffrey and about some other topics and I'd like to get your ideas on what we talked about."

"Sure, Dan", said Thomas, "I'm very interested in hearing about what you and Kala talked about.  When I did my online video chat session with Kala when I was in Los Angeles , I was pleasantly surprised by how knowledgeable she was about a lot of different topics.  Why don't you go ahead and tell me about what you and Kala talked about.  When you are done I'll see if I can add some insights."

"OK, Thomas", said Dan.  "Let's go ahead and get started then."  (Dan, Thomas and Kala are people who are real for the purposes of this story but who are not real in real life).

"First of all" said Dan, "I told Kala about how when you were in Los Angeles on spring break you went out to dinner with your friend Jeffrey.  I told her that you started your talk with Jeffrey by telling him that you believe that everyone is constantly exchanging spiritual energy with other people and that our exchanges of spiritual energy with other people are an important part of our relationships with other people.  You then told Jeffrey you believe that the spiritual energy that people have exchanged with people who they knew in the past (people who are no longer physically present) might get transferred to people who they know in the present (people who are physically present).  Finally, you told Jeffrey you believe that people such as him who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable also have a tendency to transfer their exchanges of spiritual energy from people who they knew in the past to people who they know in the present."

"Then I explained to Kala that the conversation you had with Jeffrey took place at a restaurant in Los Angeles where one of the waitresses is a girl who you know named Amber.  As I remember, Thomas, Amber had told you about how last summer she got involved with a guy who was spiritually and psychologically vulnerable like Jeffrey so you asked her to come over to your table and tell Jeffrey about that relationship.  Amber explained that at first she was reluctant to get too close to the guy.  She was pretty sure that it would not develop into a serious relationship so she felt kind of guilty getting involved with him.  But still she sensed that he was reaching out to her and that he wanted to get to know her.  After a while Amber realized that even though the exchanges of spiritual energy between her and the guy who was spiritually and psychologically vulnerable were not strong enough for her to be able to get seriously involved with him, it seemed to him like his relationship with Amber was serious.  Looking back on the experience Amber thought that there was a logical basis for her to have a relationship with the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy.  He had been exchanging spiritual energy in the past with girls who were similar to Amber (girls with normal spiritual structures), and she had been exchanging spiritual energy with spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guys in the past.  The spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy was transferring to Amber the spiritual energy that he had exchanged with other girls who he knew in the past and she was transferring to him spiritual energy that she had exchanged in the past with other guys she knew who were spiritually and psychologically vulnerable."

"When Amber left your table to help some of the other customers Jeffrey commented to you that he could feel some very positive energy being exchanged between you and Amber.  He asked you why you had never gotten involved romantically with Amber.  In answer to Jeffrey's question about you and Amber you explained to Jeffrey that most people as they are growing up develop two types of emotions.  They develop deep emotions for the people who they are really close to emotionally, and they also develop a "practical" set of emotions that they use when they are in situations where they are dealing with people in their school while they are growing up or where they are dealing with people in business types of situations when they start their working lives.  For example, a girl who is running for homecoming queen or for a class office while in high school might develop "practical" relationships where she merges the practical part of her soul with her fellow students for the purpose of getting their votes in the school election.  This sort of thing also happens quite often in business situations where a salesperson, for example, might feel that it is important for them to form a temporary spiritual bond with their client so that they will be able to influence the client when they need the client to do something that they want them to do (such as when they need the client to sign a contract).  The salesperson knows how to use spiritual links to influence the client's thinking at that important point where the client might be tempted to back out of the deal.  Then you explained to Jeffrey that what you thought was happening between you and Amber was that you were merging the practical part of your soul with her and she was merging the practical part of her soul with you.  So even though the exchanges of spiritual energy between you and Amber were positive, those exchanges of spiritual energy are not a good basis for developing a serious relationship."  

"At this point Jeffrey asked you to explain in a little more detail the dynamics of what happens when a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person starts to believe that they are developing a serious relationship with a person who is only merging the practical part of their soul with them.  In answer to Jeffrey's question you gave him another example.  You asked Jeffrey to imagine that he got to know a girl named Vanessa who merged the practical part of her soul with him for a short time.  While that took place Jeffrey was exchanging his spiritual energy with Vanessa and she was exchanging her spiritual energy with Jeffrey.  You explained to Jeffrey that compared to the amount of spiritual energy that most people exchange with other people he might not have been exchanging a lot of spiritual energy with Vanessa, but he thought that there was a magical exchange of spiritual energy taking place between him and Vanessa because he could sense that her subconscious mind was communicating with his subconscious mind.  Then you asked Jeffrey to further imagine that another girl came along who also merged the practical part of her soul with him.  It was similar to his exchange of spiritual energy with Vanessa, but it was different because now his subconscious mind was communicating with this new girl's subconscious mind.  You explained to Jeffrey that it was your belief that during the time that he knew these girls, he would have been exchanging his spiritual energy with them through the Collective Subconscious when he was with them, and he would have been exchanging his spiritual energy with them through the Collective Subconscious when he was not actually with them."

 

 

"At this point, Thomas, I told Kala that after you had explained your ideas about spiritual energy, Jeffrey told you that he thought your ideas about people communicating subconsciously through the Collective Subconscious made sense.  Jeffrey said he thought that gaining insight into how the subconscious mind works might help him to learn how to communicate better with other people and might help him to get along better with other people.  For example, Jeffrey told you he thought it might be useful for him to try to program his subconscious mind to communicate to the subconscious minds of the girls who he meets in the future that he has been misinterpreting the situation in the past and that he is sorry if his subconscious mind is sending out signals to their subconscious minds that are stronger than what is appropriate.  Jeffrey then said that he is not the type of person who would want to barge in on someone uninvited when they are at home at night after a long day of work.  But by Jeffrey trying to form a strong relationship with a girl who is only merging the practical part of her soul with him (the part of her soul that she usually only uses for work situations), he realizes that he might be getting her to think about him more than she would like to think about him during her free time when she is not supposed to have to think about things that are related to work.  He realized that even though he does not verbally say things to girls that might make them feel uncomfortable, his subconscious mind might be making suggestions to their subconscious minds that they consider to be inappropriate due to the fact that the girl is only merging the practical part of her soul with him."

"Thomas", continued Dan, "at this point I told Kala how after you had finished telling me about the conversation that you had with Jeffrey, I reminded you that Jeffrey is not your only friend who is spiritually and psychologically vulnerable.  I reminded you that I have fought many of the same battles that Jeffrey has fought.  I told you at that time that I liked Jeffrey's idea about the importance of him realizing that his subconscious mind is communicating with the subconscious minds of the girls who he meets and that this below the surface communication between Jeffrey and the girls who he meets might be making them feel uncomfortable.  But having tried personally to do variations of what Jeffrey is suggesting where his subconscious mind tries to subconsciously apologize to the subconscious minds of the girls who he meets for coming on too strongly, I had to say that I didn't think that this was going to totally solve the problem.  I told you that I think that Jeffrey has to go further and not only change the way that his subconscious mind communicates with the subconscious minds of the girls who he knows, but that Jeffrey also has to change the way that his subconscious mind communicates with the subconscious minds of the guys who he knows."

"At this point I told Kala how you and I have discussed several times before how many spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people have been made into spiritual slaves by people who have taken some of their spiritual energy away from them.  One of the ways that people steal spiritual energy from another person is by saying something unfair about them or doing something unfair to them and then denying that they have done anything wrong.  Whenever a group makes a person into their spiritual slave by treating them unfairly, the one who is the spiritual slave starts contributing spiritual energy to the other members of the group.  The ones who dominate the spiritual slave through the years care about that person very deeply because of what the spiritual slave does to strengthen the group, not because they want the spiritual slave to become stronger.  They might even at times ask the spiritual slave what they need to help make them stronger.  But then the ones who asked the spiritual slave what they needed to become stronger will make sure that the spiritual slave never receives whatever it is that will make them stronger.  I reminded you at this point about how you had told Jeffrey that you and Amber were only merging the practical parts of your souls with each other and how you knew that this was not a good basis for developing a serious relationship.  I then told you I believe that the guys who try to dominate spiritual slaves such as Jeffrey and myself know for certain, just like you know for certain, that they cannot develop a serious relationship with a girl if they are only merging the practical part of their soul with her.  The guys who try to dominate spiritual slaves such as Jeffrey and myself will try to make us believe (both while communicating with us verbally and while communicating with us subconsciously) that we will eventually be able to develop a serious relationship with a girl who is only merging the practical part of her soul with us.  This tricks us into thinking that we are better off to continue going down the same path that we are presently on rather than trying to make a change.  The ones who are dominating us want us to stay where we are.  That is why I believe that it is important for Jeffrey and myself to communicate to the subconscious minds of the guys who we know that we are suspicious when they tell us, both in verbal communication and in subconscious communication, that we will eventually be able to develop a serious relationship with a girl who is only merging the practical part of her soul with us."    

"At this point I told you that I knew you might be thinking that while in theory it makes sense for Jeffrey and myself to try to stop other people from overpowering us spiritually, it will be hard for us to actually make this happen.  It will be hard for us to make this happen because the people who dominate spiritual slaves such as Jeffrey and myself usually have more spiritual energy than we do.  I told you I think that in order for people such as Jeffrey and myself to avoid being overpowered spiritually by the people who are dominating us through the Collective Subconscious, it is important for us to come up with a framework for understanding (and for believing in) spiritual energy exchanges.  I told you I thought that Jeffrey and I should maybe come up with a variation of Pascal's Wager."

"You liked the idea about using a variation of Pascal's Wager.  You pointed out that when my subconscious mind and Jeffrey's subconscious mind try to confront the subconscious minds of the guys who are trying to dominate us and mislead us with false information, their subconscious minds are likely to let us know that there is no way that we will be able to overpower them spiritually at a subconscious level through the Collective Subconscious.  Their subconscious minds will tell our subconscious minds that we are basing our argument (that they are destroying us on a subconscious level by giving us false information) on the idea that people exchange spiritual energy with other people through the Collective Subconscious.  They will argue that we do not really truly believe that people exchange spiritual energy with each other through the Collective Subconscious because we do not have absolute scientific proof.  They will argue that for this reason we will not have enough faith to stop them from overpowering us spiritually on a subconscious level.  You then said that what Jeffrey and I can do is to subconsciously communicate to the people who are trying to spiritually overpower us that while we might not have absolute scientific proof that people exchange spiritual energy with other people through the Collective Subconscious, we do believe deep down in our hearts that there is a logical reason for us to believe that exchanges of spiritual energy between people through the Collective Subconscious actually do take place.  We have a logical reason to bet (or wager) that people exchange spiritual energy with other people through the Collective Subconscious because if it is true that people do exchange spiritual energy through the Collective Subconscious, and if we do not have a strategy for dealing with that, then we will continue to allow other people to hurt us by stealing our spiritual energy.  The potential negative consequences for us are too great and too damaging if it is true that this exchange of spiritual energy does take place and if we have no defense against the people who are misleading us with false information and who are stealing our spiritual energy."

 

 

"At this point", continued Dan, "Kala said that she liked very much the variation on Pascal's Wager (Dan's Wager) that you and I had developed.  She then said that she wanted to tell me about a conversation that you had told her about during your online video chat session.  She said that you had a conversation with someone named Pastor Ron when you were flying back to Los Angeles for your spring break."

"That's right, Dan", said Thomas.  "He was sitting next to me on the airplane.  When he introduced himself to me, he said that I could call him Pastor Ron.  Pastor Ron was headed to Los Angeles to attend the yearly annual meeting of his church.  Did Kala tell you about how I asked Pastor Ron to explain to me how it could be possible for a person in a church meeting to speak in tongues (to speak in a language that they have never learned)?"

"Yes she did, Thomas," said Dan, "and she explained how Pastor Ron told you that he thinks that we ourselves might be the mechanism for apparently supernatural phenomenon such as when people speak in tongues or when a sick person is delirious and they seem to be speaking to someone who is not in the room.  He believes that every person on earth communicates subconsciously with each other by exchanging spiritual energy through the Collective Subconscious.  Pastor Ron told you that he thinks it is possible that when this type of spiritual event occurs someone at a meeting in their office in Chicago might be communicating subconsciously (through the Collective Subconscious) with a person who is speaking in tongues in a church meeting in another city.  The person in Chicago might be providing feelings of comfort to that person who is speaking in tongues.  Another person who is in Eastern Europe might also be communicating subconsciously with the same person in the church meeting who is speaking in tongues.  This other person might be providing the foreign language component that is being used in this spiritual event.  Pastor Ron feels that there might be several people from different parts of the world participating in the spiritual event with none of them being consciously aware of their involvement in what is taking place.  And he also thinks that something similar might be happening in the Collective Subconscious when a person is sick or delirious and where they appear to be speaking to someone who is not in the room.  They may actually be talking to someone who is trying to comfort them through the Collective Subconscious."

 

 

"At this point", continued Dan, "you told Pastor Ron you knew that some people believe that when we die our souls remain in the Collective Subconscious and perform tasks such as helping people who are still living when they take part in spiritual events such as the ones that you and him had been discussing.  You told Pastor Ron that you thought this would be a very cold and a very limited sort of an afterlife.  In answer to your comment, Pastor Ron explained to you that spiritual energy travels between us and other people so quickly that we are not consciously aware of it.  For this reason, it seems to us that the spiritual world is limited and non-fulfilling because we can only sense, or can only see, the spiritual world in a very limited sort of a way.  Pastor Ron believes that the spiritual things below the surface that we cannot see are probably very rich and very fulfilling."

"Thomas", continued Dan, "Kala said that after you told her about your conversation with Pastor Ron, she told you that she liked very much Pastor Ron's ideas about the afterlife.  But she also told you that she thinks that there are a lot of pastors and other church people in our country who would challenge the idea that there might be an afterlife where there is no Hell.  Kala reminded me how I had said that it is very difficult for people such as myself who are spiritual slaves to break free of our spiritual bondage.  She said that it is very difficult for us to break free of our spiritual bondage because the people who have made us into their spiritual slaves do not want to lose the extra spiritual energy that they receive when spiritual slaves are forced to give some of their spiritual energy to the other members of the group.  Kala said that there is a reason why many pastors and other church people continue holding on to the idea that there is a Hell.  She thinks that they know that the myth of a physical place called Hell is not real, but they also know that the spiritual slaves who have been forced to give up some of their spiritual energy for the benefit of the group are living in a type of living Hell where they do not have the amounts of spiritual energy that are necessary to compete in this world.  Kala knows that it is wrong and very unfair to say that all church people believe that spiritual slavery is ok, but she thinks that there are a lot of people in the church today who feel that the only way to keep the myth of Hell alive is by continuing to force spiritual slaves to live in a type of living Hell where they must give up some of their spiritual energy for the benefit of the group."

"The final thing that Kala wanted me to remember was that I might someday meet a church person who tries to make me feel guilty for my lack of faith in the religious myths.  She said that I might be confused about why this makes me feel uneasy considering the fact that I do not really believe in the myths of Heaven and Hell.  In these situations, she said that she thinks I might be confused because while the church person is saying to my face (saying to me consciously) that they believe in the myth of Heaven and Hell and that they do not believe that people exchange spiritual energy with each other through the Collective Subconscious, Kala believes that their subconscious mind is communicating to my subconscious mind that they know that the myth of Heaven and Hell is not real, but that they are convinced that people actually do exchange spiritual energy with other people through the Collective Subconscious.  This individual knows  that I get confused when I talk to people like them.  Kala believes that while I am talking to this person my conscious mind is trying to tell my subconscious mind that this person believes in God but does not believe in spiritual energy transfers through the Collective Subconscious.  At the same time my subconscious mind is trying to tell my conscious mind that the subconscious vibrations that it is picking up from the church person indicate that the reverse is actually true.  Kala's final comment to me was that she hoped that with a conscious insight into the situation, in the future when I meet a person who says one thing to my face (to my conscious mind) and says something else to my subconscious mind, I will not feel the conflict that we all feel when our conscious minds and our subconscious minds are not in agreement (or not in alignment)."

"That's pretty good, Dan", said Thomas.  "I like Kala's ideas very much, but I think that there is one more thing that we should consider.  In the same way that a church person might be able to throw your conscious mind and your subconscious mind out of alignment by trying to make you feel guilty for not believing in religious myths that they don't believe in themselves, another type of person might try to throw your conscious mind and your subconscious mind out of alignment in a different way.  This person (who might be a church person or who might not be a church person) will let you know in a subtle way, such as possibly rolling their eyes or maybe making a muted chuckling noise while you are talking to them, that they are going to take something that you have just said to them about yourself, and they are then going to twist (or spin) it around to take on a very negative interpretation that you never intended, and then they are going to tell at least a couple of people the false story (or the lie) about you that they have created.  This person knows that while you are talking to them your conscious mind is telling your subconscious mind that you are afraid they are going to tell some people a lie about you and that at the same time your subconscious mind will be telling your conscious mind that the subconscious vibrations that it is picking up from this person indicate that not only will this person tell a lie about you directly to some people but also that those people who they tell the lie to will cause you further damage by subconsciously transmitting the lie that they have heard about you to other people by way of the Collective Subconscious."

 

 

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"Dan", continued Thomas, "when you get involved in a situation such as this, you might at a deep subconscious level start to panic about how you are going to be able to defend yourself against the lie about you that you know is going to be told (both consciously and subconsciously) to so many people.  Even if you were able to find all of the people who hear the lie directly from the liar and if you were able to tell them the truth (or tell them your side of the story), you would still have no idea what to do about the people who had only heard the lie subconsciously (people who had not consciously heard the lie in a conversation with another person, but who had only heard the lie subconsciously when it was transmitted to them through the Collective Subconscious)."  

"When another person intimidates you by letting you know that they are going to tell a lie that will hurt you, that person knows that you will be worried about how you are going to defend yourself against the lie.  But they also know that you are going to be worried about the fact that this sort of intimidation seems to happen to you more often than it does to other people and that you don't know how to stop it from happening.  Dan, I think that because you have had your spiritual energy stolen from you by other people in the past (thereby reducing your levels of spiritual energy), it is possible that the connection between your conscious mind and your subconscious mind is weaker than the connection that most other people have between their conscious mind and their subconscious mind.  In my opinion, bullies prefer to try to pick on people who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable.  It is fairly easy for them to frighten a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person because other people have been frightening that person by stealing their spiritual energy throughout their lives.  I think that bullies who try to intimidate a person in this way enjoy the fact that they are taking a person who was already weak and they are making them even weaker.  And in my opinion I also think that they are able to increase their own spiritual energy levels when they do this because they are stealing some of the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person's spiritual energy.  When this sort of thing happens to you, Dan, I know that there are a lot of things that are going through your mind and that it is easy to panic.  But if you could gain some insight into what is happening you might be able to defend yourself better against this type of attack in the future.  Maybe the next time that this happens you could remind yourself when you are talking to the bully that your conscious mind and your subconscious mind are in conflict and are out of alignment at that moment.  And also remind yourself that you are at that moment concerned about how you are going to defend yourself against the lies that you know the bully is going to tell about you.  Maybe try to communicate to your subconscious mind that you are consciously aware that the bully is going to tell lies about you directly to other people and that some of those people who hear the lies might subconsciously transmit the lies to other people through the Collective Subconscious.  Also try to communicate to your subconscious mind that you do not think that you should get overly worried about what is going to happen when the bully tells their lies because everybody on earth has to deal with having lies told about them both consciously and subconsciously.  Try to communicate to your subconscious mind that the biggest problem you are facing at that moment is that the bully is trying to steal your spiritual energy by making you panic because of the conflict that you are feeling because your conscious mind is not in alignment with your subconscious mind.  If you can get yourself to stop panicking when this happens, the bully will not be able to steal your spiritual energy and you will for this reason have more spiritual energy available to you.  And because you have more spiritual energy available to you than you would have had if you had allowed the bully to steal your spiritual energy, you will be able to better defend yourself against any conscious or subconscious lies that are told about you than you would have been if you would have panicked when you were talking to the bully."  

"Finally Dan, I think that you should try to subconsciously communicate to the bullies who try to hurt you (church people bullies, non-church people bullies, men bullies, and women bullies) that you have developed a variation of Pascal's Wager (Dan's Wager) that allows you to believe that exchanges of spiritual energy between yourself and other people actually do take place through the Collective Subconscious, and that this will hopefully help you to better defend yourself against people such as them in the future when they try to steal your spiritual energy.  Hopefully by gaining a conscious insight into some of the ways that other people might try to hurt you spiritually and psychologically, you will be able to reduce the conflicts between your conscious mind and your subconscious mind and bring them into a closer alignment.  By reducing those conflicts and by using your variation of Pascal's Wager, you will hopefully be able to increase your levels of spiritual energy by learning how to prevent other people from stealing your spiritual energy and also increase your levels of spiritual energy by developing faith that people really do exchange spiritual energy with each other through the Collective Subconscious."  

 

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One evening in the spring of 2008 a young man named Dan, who had lived in Chicago for several years, and his friend Thomas, who was a college student in Chicago, were on their way to visit the pastor of a church in the Chicago area who Thomas had met on the airplane when he went back to Los Angeles for his spring break a few weeks earlier.  When the pastor from Chicago introduced himself to Thomas on the airplane he told Thomas that he could call him Pastor Ron.  (Dan, Thomas, and Pastor Ron are people who are real for the purposes of this story but who are not real in real life).

When Dan and Thomas got to Pastor Ron's church they went to a side door that Pastor Ron had told them would be open and they found his office without any trouble.  After Thomas introduced Dan to Pastor Ron they all took their seats.  Thomas started out by telling Pastor Ron that he enjoyed the conversation that they had on the airplane during their flight to Los Angeles (Pastor Ron had gone to Los Angeles to attend the yearly annual meeting of his church).  Thomas told Pastor Ron that he liked very much Pastor Ron's ideas about spiritual things and that he had told some other people, including Dan, what he and Pastor Ron had talked about on the airplane.

Upon hearing this Pastor Ron said, "thank you very much, I really appreciate that.  Thomas, on the phone you said that you and Dan had some other questions about spiritual things that you guys have been discussing recently.  If you or Dan could start out by telling me some of the things that you guys have been discussing recently, I'd be glad to give you any insights that I might have when you are done."

"That sounds good", said Thomas.  "Dan, would you like to go ahead and start out?"

"Sure", said Dan, "Pastor Ron, a couple of weeks ago Thomas told me about the conversation that he had with you on the airplane.  He said that he had asked you if you could explain to him how people are able to do apparently supernatural things such as speaking in tongues in a church meeting (speaking in a language that a person has never learned).  You told Thomas you believe that we ourselves might be the mechanism for apparently supernatural phenomenon such as when people speak in tongues at a church meeting or when a sick person is delirious and they seem to be speaking to someone who is not in the room.  You told Thomas you believe that every person on earth communicates subconsciously with each other by exchanging spiritual energy through the Collective Subconscious."

 

 

"Thomas told me you believe it is possible that when this type of spiritual event occurs someone at a meeting in their office in Chicago might be communicating subconsciously (through the Collective Subconscious) with a person who is speaking in tongues in a church meeting in another city.  The person in Chicago might be providing feelings of comfort to the person who is speaking in tongues.  Another person who is in Eastern Europe might also be communicating subconsciously with the same person in the church meeting who is speaking in tongues.  This other person might be providing the foreign language component that is being used in this spiritual event.  You told Thomas you believe that there might be several people from different parts of the world participating in the spiritual event with none of them being consciously aware of their involvement in what is taking place.  You also told him you think that something similar might be happening in the Collective Subconscious when a person is sick or delirious and where they appear to be speaking to someone who is not in the room.  They may actually be talking to someone who is trying to comfort them through the Collective Subconscious."

 

 

"At this point", continued Dan, "Thomas told you he knew that some people believe that when we die our souls remain in the Collective Subconscious and perform tasks such as helping people who are still living when they take part in spiritual events such as the ones that you and him had been discussing.  He told you he thought this would be a very cold and a very limited sort of an afterlife.  In answer to his comment, you explained to Thomas that spiritual energy travels between us and other people so quickly that we are not consciously aware of it.  For this reason, it seems to us that the spiritual world is limited and non-fulfilling because we can only sense, or can only see, the spiritual world in a very limited sort of a way.  You told Thomas you believe that the spiritual things below the surface that we cannot see are probably very rich and very fulfilling."

"Pastor Ron", continued Dan, "Thomas told me that he also talked to you on the airplane about his friend Jeffrey who is spiritually and psychologically vulnerable.  When Thomas and I talk about people such as Jeffrey who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable, we sometimes refer to them as spiritual slaves.  Spiritual slaves have had their spiritual energy unfairly taken away from them by other people.  The ones who steal their spiritual energy might do this by saying something unfair about them or doing something unfair to them and then denying that they have done anything wrong.  On his first night back in Los Angeles when Thomas was on his spring break, he had dinner with his friend Jeffrey.  Thomas had some extra time before he was going to meet Jeffrey so he went online with his computer and he did an online video chat session with a psychic in India named Kala.  Thomas told Kala about his spiritually and psychologically vulnerable friend Jeffrey and he also told her your ideas about the afterlife.  After hearing Thomas speak about these things Kala told Thomas that she liked very much your (Pastor Ron's) ideas about the afterlife.  But she told Thomas she thinks that there are a lot of pastors and other church people in our country who would challenge the idea that there might be an afterlife where there is no Hell.  Kala told Thomas that it is very difficult for people such as Jeffrey who are spiritual slaves to break free of their spiritual bondage.  One reason it is very difficult for them to break free of their spiritual bondage is that the people who have made them into their spiritual slaves do not want to lose the extra spiritual energy that they receive when spiritual slaves are forced to give some of their spiritual energy to the other members of the group.  Kala also said that there is a reason why many pastors and other church people continue holding on to the idea that there is a Hell.  She thinks that they know that the myth of a physical place called Hell is not real, but they also know that the spiritual slaves who have been forced to give up some of their spiritual energy for the benefit of the group are living in a type of living Hell where they do not have the amounts of spiritual energy that are necessary to compete in this world.  Kala knows that it is wrong and very unfair to say that all church people believe that spiritual slavery is ok, but she thinks that there are a lot of people in the church today who feel that the only way to keep the myth of Hell alive is by continuing to force spiritual slaves to live in a type of living Hell where they must give up some of their spiritual energy for the benefit of the group."

Dan thought for a moment and then continued, "last week I decided to go online with my computer and see if I could do an online video chat session with Kala (the psychic in India who Thomas had talked to).  I was lucky and I was able to reach Kala within a couple of minutes.  The first thing I told Kala was that Jeffrey is not Thomas' only friend who is spiritually and psychologically vulnerable.  I am also a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person.  Kala told me a lot of the same things that she had told Thomas but at the end of our online video chat session she said that she wanted me to remember that I might someday meet a church person who tries to make me feel guilty for my lack of faith in the religious myths.  She said that I might be confused about why this makes me feel uneasy considering the fact that I do not really believe in the myths of Heaven and Hell.  In these situations, she said that she thinks I might be confused because while the church person is saying to my face (saying to me consciously) that they believe in the myth of Heaven and Hell and that they do not believe that people exchange spiritual energy with each other through the Collective Subconscious, Kala believes that their subconscious mind is communicating to my subconscious mind that they know that the myth of Heaven and Hell is not real, but that they are convinced that people actually do exchange spiritual energy with other people through the Collective Subconscious.  This individual knows that I get confused when I talk to people like them.  Kala believes that while I am talking to this person my conscious mind is trying to tell my subconscious mind that this person believes in God but does not believe in spiritual energy transfers through the Collective Subconscious.  At the same time my subconscious mind is trying to tell my conscious mind that the subconscious vibrations that it is picking up from the church person indicate that the reverse is actually true.  Kala said she hoped that with a conscious insight into the situation, in the future when I meet a person who says one thing to my face (to my conscious mind) and says something else to my subconscious mind, I will not feel the conflict that we all feel when our conscious minds and our subconscious minds are not in agreement (or not in alignment)."

Dan noticed that Pastor Ron had a slight smile on his face at this point so he asked Pastor Ron if he had any comments about Dan's conversation with Kala.

Pastor Ron thought for a moment and then said, "we don't see it so much these days but in the past there were pastors who would get up and preach in a very loud and frightening manner about how everyone who was in the room was going to Hell unless they repented their sins.  When they did this there would be people in the audience who would start to get very nervous.  Many of these people believed that they were nervous because the pastor was right and that they were going to go to Hell if they did not repent their sins that night.  Dan, due to the advancements that have been made in science over the past 100 years it has become very difficult for churches to keep the myths of Heaven and Hell alive.  Many pastors have used the technique that Kala described to make people believe that Hell must really exist.  They would talk in a booming and scary voice about Hell and would make many people in the audience get very nervous.  The pastor was actually making people feel conflict and confusion because he was saying to them consciously in a very convincing manner that he definitely believed that Hell existed while his subconscious mind was telling the subconscious minds of the people in the audience that he did not really believe that Hell existed.  This would create a conflict between the conscious minds and the subconscious minds of the people in the audience and it would make them think that the only way they would be able to clear up the conflict would be to repent their sins."

"Please go ahead and continue, Dan", said Pastor Ron.

"Pastor Ron", said Dan, "my online video chat session with Kala last week took place right before I was going to meet Thomas for dinner.  When I told Thomas what Kala and I had talked about he said that he liked Kala's ideas very much, but he thought that there was one more thing that I should consider.  Thomas said that in the same way that a church person might be able to throw your conscious mind and your subconscious mind out of alignment by trying to make you feel guilty for not believing in religious myths that they don't believe in themselves, another type of person might try to throw your conscious mind and your subconscious mind out of alignment in a different way.  This person (who might be a church person or who might not be a church person) will let you know in a subtle way, such as possibly rolling their eyes or maybe making a muted chuckling noise while you are talking to them, that they are going to take something that you have just said to them about yourself, and they are then going to twist (or spin) it around to take on a very negative interpretation that you never intended, and then they are going to tell other people the false story (or the lie) about you that they have created.  This person knows that while you are talking to them your conscious mind is telling your subconscious mind that you are afraid they are going to tell other people a lie about you and that at the same time your subconscious mind will be telling your conscious mind that the subconscious vibrations that it is picking up from this person indicate that not only will this person tell a lie about you directly to other people but also that those people who they tell the lie to will cause you further damage by subconsciously transmitting the lie that they have heard about you to other people by way of the Collective Subconscious."

 

 

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"Thomas believes that when you get into a situation such as this, you might at a deep subconscious level start to panic about how you are going to be able to defend yourself against the lie about you that you know is going to be told (both consciously and subconsciously) to so many people.  Even if you were able to find all of the people who heard the lie directly from the liar and if you were able to tell them the truth (or tell them your side of the story), you would still have no idea what to do about the people who had only heard the lie subconsciously (people who had not consciously heard the lie in a conversation with another person, but who had only heard the lie subconsciously when it was transmitted to them through the Collective Subconscious)."  

"Thomas believes that when another person intimidates you by letting you know that they are going to tell a lie that will hurt you, that person knows that you will be worried about how you are going to defend yourself against the lie.  He thinks that because people such as Jeffrey and myself have had our spiritual energy stolen from us by other people in the past (thereby reducing our levels of spiritual energy), it is possible that the connection between our conscious minds and our subconscious minds is weaker than the connection that most other people have between their conscious mind and their subconscious mind.  For this reason Thomas feels that the bullies who like to unfairly spread lies about other people will tend to pick on spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people such as Jeffrey and myself more than they pick on other people.  Thomas said he knows that there are a lot of things that are going through my mind when I get taken advantage of in this way and that it is easy for me to panic.  But if I could gain some insight into what is happening, Thomas thinks that I might be able to better defend myself against this type of attack in the future.  He suggested that the next time this happens I should remind myself that my conscious mind and my subconscious mind are in conflict and are out of alignment at that moment while I am talking to the person who is trying to take advantage of me.  Thomas thinks that I should try to communicate to my subconscious mind that I am consciously aware that the bully who is trying to take advantage of me is going to tell lies about me directly to other people and that some of those people who hear the lies might subconsciously transmit the lies to other people through the Collective Subconscious.  He thinks that I should communicate to my subconscious mind that the biggest problem I am facing at that moment is that the bully is trying to steal my spiritual energy by making me panic because of the conflict that I am feeling because my conscious mind is not in alignment with my subconscious mind.  If I can get myself to stop panicking when this happens, Thomas thinks that the bully will not be able to steal my spiritual energy and I will for this reason have more spiritual energy available to me.  And because I will have more spiritual energy available to me than I would have had if I would have allowed the bully to steal my spiritual energy, I will be able to better defend myself against any conscious or subconscious lies that will be told about me than I would have been if I would have panicked when I was talking to the bully.  Pastor Ron, I think that pretty much covers the subjects that we wanted to talk to you about tonight."

Pastor Ron smiled and then said, "Dan, I mentioned a little while ago how the advancements that have been made in science over the past 100 years have made it very difficult for churches to keep the myths of Heaven and Hell alive.  I mentioned how I believe that a lot of pastors have used the technique that Kala described to make people believe think there must be a Hell by preaching about Hell while at same time making those people who were in the audience nervous by creating a conflict between their conscious minds and their subconscious minds that actually had nothing to do with Hell.  I think that there are a lot of pastors today who know that their congregations are well educated and that the people in their congregations have trouble believing in things of a spiritual nature.  In the same way that many pastors in the past used the technique that Kala described to make people believe that there was a Hell, I think that some of the pastors today use the technique that Thomas told you about last week to make skeptical people believe that spiritual forces actually do exist.  I think that they might purposely tell lies about people who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable for the purpose of demonstrating that spiritual forces actually exist.  If they are able to tell a lie about a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person and if the people who heard the lie notice how nervous it makes the vulnerable person and if they also notice that people who did not hear the lie consciously (people who did not hear the lie directly from another person in a conversation) believe the lie, than that will prove to those people that spiritual forces actually do exist.  Pastors who are a little bit mischievous will be able to have a little bit of fun at the expense of the person who is spiritually and psychologically vulnerable, and they will feel that they will have done a good thing because they will have made people who were once skeptical about the existence of spiritual forces start to believe that spiritual forces actually do exist.  I know that a lot of people today get confused when they hear stories of pastors who have been doing bad things for many years while they were the spiritual leader of their church.  You would think that someone who was corrupt would not be able to lead other people spiritually.  I think maybe the reason that those pastors are able to lead their congregations spiritually even though they are corrupt themselves is that they use tricks such as the ones that we have been discussing here tonight.  They prove with those tricks that spiritual forces exist and the members of their congregations are impressed by those tricks."

 Pastor Ron continued, "I think that there is something else that people who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable (and who are spiritual slaves) need to be aware of.  Dan, when a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person such as Jeffrey and yourself becomes another person's spiritual slave, they end up absorbing the pressure that should be going to the person who attacked them and who made them into their spiritual slave.  They have to deal with not only the pressure in their own life but they also have to absorb the pressure that is being directed towards the person who has made them into a spiritual slave.  If they eventually, with insight into the nature of their situation, get some sort of psychological release where they no longer feel the need to absorb the pressure of the person who made them into a spiritual slave, they will notice very soon that they will have increased pressure put upon them by people in the group that they are a part of who are upset that the person who made them into a spiritual slave (their slave master) is not happy about the new situation where they have to absorb the pressure that was previously absorbed for them by the spiritual slave.  The person who had been using them as a spiritual slave might tell the other members of their group that they are feeling increased negative spiritual energy coming into them from the person who they had been using as their spiritual slave.  Actually, they are just feeling the negative spiritual energy that the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person had been absorbing for them through the years.  But being as the person who made the more vulnerable person into a spiritual slave is going through obvious spiritual and psychological pain as a result of what has occurred, it will appear to anyone observing the situation that the person who had been serving as a spiritual slave was actually sending negative spiritual energy into their former slave master.  The group will now cast the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person in the role of an bad person and the vulnerable person will be forced to go back into their old role where they were being forced to absorb the pressure that was being directed towards the person who had made them into their spiritual slave."

"Dan", continued Pastor Ron, "sometimes people who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable such as yourself might meet a church person who tries to comfort you by letting you know that they are praying for you,  If this happens to you Dan, you will probably have mixed feelings about what you are hearing from that person.  You will want to thank them for sending you extra spiritual energy by way of their prayers, but you will want to let them know that you feel you would be better off if you could be set free from your spiritual slavery (and receive less prayers from other people than you are presently receiving) than to be forced to remain a spiritual slave and receive more prayers from other people."

 

 

 

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"Unfortunately Dan" continued Pastor Ron, "if you tell someone who has been praying for you that you would prefer to receive less prayers and be allowed to break free of your spiritual bondage than to receive more prayers and remain a spiritual slave, you might find that the person who has been praying for you will not want to send you any spiritual energy by way of their prayers if you manage to get free of your spiritual slavery.  This person might feel that spiritual slavery is a necessary thing in this world and they might not want to see you break free of your spiritual slavery."

Dan thought about what Pastor Ron had said for a moment and then said, "Pastor Ron, what you said about people who might pray for you while you are a spiritual slave but who might not want to pray for you if you become free of your spiritual slavery might be related to something else that Thomas and I have been discussing recently.  It is sometimes hard for people such as Jeffrey and myself who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable to figure out why we might sometimes start to feel that we are developing a relationship with someone of the opposite sex and then find that they are not really interested in us.  Thomas has a pretty good explanation as to why this might happen.  Thomas believes that most people as they are growing up develop deep emotions for the people who they are really close to emotionally, and they also develop a "practical" set of emotions that they use when they are in situations where they are dealing with people in their school while they are growing up or where they are dealing with people in business types of situations when they start their working lives.  For example, a girl who is running for homecoming queen or for a class office while in high school might develop "practical" relationships where she merges the practical part of her soul with her fellow students for the purpose of getting their votes in the school election.  Thomas believes that people who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable are only able to develop a practical set of emotions and for this reason sometimes they might think that they are getting involved with someone of the opposite sex who is only merging the practical part of their soul with them.  And I believe there is another thing that makes spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people think that they are getting involved with a person who is not really interested in them.  Thomas believes that people transfer their exchanges of spiritual energy that they had with people who they knew in the past to people who they know in the present.  And he believes that people who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable also transfer their exchanges of spiritual energy that they have had with other people in the past to people who they know in the present.  This transfer of spiritual energy exchanges is a good thing when someone meets a soul mate who is able to tie up their emotional loose ends and make them forget about bad relationships that they have had in the past, but I think that it can be a bad thing for a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person.  If in the past you have been told by a girl that she doesn't want to see you any more because you are not in her league and then you meet a new girl who is very similar to her, you might transfer to the new girl the exchanges of spiritual energy that you had with the girl who you knew in the past who said that she did not want to see you any more (and the new girl who you meet might transfer to you the exchanges of spiritual energy that she had with guys who she knew in the past who she had told to leave her alone).  This will create immediate friction between you and the new girl who you have just met."

Pastor Ron thought for a moment and then said, "Dan, I think you have a very good understanding of some of the problems that spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people have in their relationships with other people.  We discussed earlier how someone who was willing to send you spiritual energy by way of their prayers might not be willing to send you spiritual energy by way of their prayers if you break free from your spiritual slavery.  In a similar way I think that when spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people are growing up members of the opposite sex will sometimes give them a conditional type of friendship.  A girl in a church group, for example, might flirt with a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy because she wants to give something to him to help him be strong enough to fulfill his role as a spiritual slave to the group.  Some people use the term "quid pro quo" (which is Latin for "this for that") to describe this type of situation.  In the girl's mind it was understood from the start that she would flirt with the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy for as long as he played the role of a spiritual slave.  In her mind, they had a deal.  When he tried to form an actual relationship with her, it might have felt OK to her for a while, but then she realized that something was wrong.  What she realized was that he had stepped out of the role that he had been performing as a spiritual slave and that he was trying to relate to her as an equal.  At that point she backed out of their "quid pro quo" arrangement because he was no longer playing the role that she was expecting him to play.  While the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy might not have been in her league, he was in her game at one time.  When he started trying to relate to her on a more equal type of a basis she decided that she did not want him in her game any longer."

"Dan, most of us have been in situations where we were going through a hard time and then we were very disappointed when the people around us (who we hoped would encourage us during our time of trouble) actually seemed to be happy about our misfortune (thereby making our pain even worse).  When a family is going through a hard time (such as a death in the family or a financial set back) and a new family member comes along, there is a danger that some of the more aggressive and unkind members of the community that the family is involved in will start to put increased amounts of pressure on the family in an effort to hurt the family at a time when they are down and vulnerable.  Some families can handle this type of pressure and humiliation better than others, but it is not easy for anyone to feel negative spiritual energy coming into them from members of their community when they feel that those people should be trying to help them in their time of difficulty.  When a family is pressured in this sort of a way and a new member is born into the family, there is a danger that the family will transfer the negative spiritual energy that is coming into them from the members of their community that are pressuring the family to the new family member.  The other family members are able to keep their equilibrium because they do not have to absorb the negative spiritual energy that was previously coming into them.  It is my belief that there are quite a few spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people whose birth might have occurred at a time that was not convenient for their family.  Because of this fact (and because the family decided to put the blame on the new member of the family) the new family member developed a reputation in their community as being a person who liked to hurt other people because it was believed that their birth hurt their family.  If their birth caused more problems for their father than for their mother, they might get a reputation for (or be spiritually branded as) a person who likes to hurt other men.  If their birth caused more problems for their mother than for their father, they might get a reputation for (or be spiritually branded as) a person who likes to hurt women.  This might or might not be the type of situation that you were born into, Dan.  But if this was your situation, then this reputation (or spiritual branding) that was given to you by the community that you were a part of would have followed you as you went through school and also later on when you started your working life.  Let me give you an example to explain in somewhat simplistic terms what might be going on between you and other people spiritually if you developed a reputation early in life as someone who likes to hurt other people.  Let's say that when you are talking to a person you send them spiritual energy.  You have some conscious control over this spiritual energy (which we will call personal spiritual energy).  Let's say that you also send the person who you are talking to a more subconscious type of spiritual energy.  This spiritual energy is being relayed by your community through you to the person who you are talking to.  This spiritual energy (which we will call group spiritual energy) is comprised of the combined spiritual energy of the people who you knew when you were growing up (or your community).  If your community came to a consensus that you like to hurt other people, it would be hard for you to be effective at sending positive spiritual energy to other people because while you were sending positive spiritual energy to the other person consciously, that other person would also be picking up subconscious vibrations from you that were made up of the negative group spiritual energy that was being relayed through you by your community to that other person."

 

 

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"To sum it up Dan", said Pastor Ron, "you might want to watch out for at least three types of situations that might be throwing your conscious mind out of alignment with your subconscious mind.  First, watch out for religious people who try to make you feel guilty for not believing in religious myths that they do not believe in themselves.  Second, when a bully tries to make you nervous by letting you know that they are going to tell a lie about you, try to communicate to your subconscious mind that you are aware of the dangers of the situation and that you believe that you will be OK as long as you understand the nature of the situation and as long as you don't panic.  And finally, try to communicate to your subconscious mind that you are aware that you may be unintentionally sending negative spiritual messages that are being relayed by your community through you to the people who you meet that give them the impression that you like to hurt other people.  Let your subconscious mind know that you will try to be as positive as possible with the people who you deal with on a conscious level and perhaps also give your subconscious mind the authority to try to override some of those negative spiritual vibrations that are being relayed by your community through you to the people who you meet and turn those negative spiritual vibrations into positive spiritual vibrations."

 

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One night in the spring of 2008 a young man named Thomas, who was a college student in Chicago, had just returned home after having spent an evening with his friend Dan.  Thomas and Dan had visited the pastor of a church in the Chicago area who Thomas had met on the airplane when he was going back to Los Angeles for his spring break a few weeks earlier.  When the pastor introduced himself to Thomas on the airplane he told him that he could call him Pastor Ron.  Thomas had a few minutes of free time available before going to bed so he decided to go online with his computer and try to contact a psychic in India named Kala who Thomas had an online video chat session with when he was in Los Angeles on his spring break.  After a couple of minutes Thomas found Kala's website.  He entered his contact information and he entered some information about what he wanted to talk to her about onto the website page.  Soon there was a beeping sound from a call that was coming into the video chat program on Thomas' computer from Kala.  When he answered the call he could see Kala on the right side of his screen and he could see himself on the left.  A very friendly voice said, "Hello, Thomas, it is good to see you again."  (Thomas and Kala are people who are real for the purposes of this story but who are not in real life).

"Thomas", said Kala, "I can see from the information that you entered onto the website page that you wanted to talk to me about something that was discussed tonight when you and your friend Dan visited Pastor Ron.  I remember you telling me about Pastor Ron during the online video chat session that we had a few weeks ago and I would be glad to add any insights that I might have about what you, Dan and Pastor Ron were talking about tonight."

"Kala", said Thomas, "tonight Dan and I went out to Pastor Ron's church and we spent about a half hour talking to him about some spiritual things that Dan and I have been discussing recently.  By the way, Kala, Dan told me that he did an online video chat session with you last week and that he really appreciated the insights that you gave to him about things of a spiritual nature.  I think that because of the fact that Dan is spiritually and psychologically vulnerable (and has had some of his spiritual energy stolen from him by people who have taken advantage of him) it is harder for Dan to understand things of a spiritual nature than it is for most other people."  

Thomas thought for a moment and then continued, "Pastor Ron discussed three different types of spiritual topics with us earlier tonight but there is one subject in particular that I found very interesting and that I would like to get your insights on.  Pastor Ron explained how most of us have been in situations where we were going through a hard time and then we were very disappointed when the people around us (who we hoped would encourage us during our time of trouble) actually seemed to be happy about our misfortune (thereby making our pain even worse).  When a family is going through a hard time (such as a death in the family or a financial set back) and a new family member comes along, there is a danger that some of the more aggressive and unkind members of the community that the family is involved in will start to put increased amounts of pressure on the family in an effort to hurt the family at a time when they are down and vulnerable.  Some families can handle this type of pressure and humiliation better than others, but it is not easy for anyone to feel negative spiritual energy coming into them from members of their community when they feel that those people should be trying to help them in their time of difficulty.  When a family is pressured in this sort of a way and a new member is born into the family, there is a danger that the family will transfer the negative spiritual energy that is coming into them from the members of their community that are pressuring the family to the new family member.  It is Pastor Ron's belief that there are quite a few spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people whose birth might have occurred at a time that was not convenient for their family.  Because of this fact (and because the family decided to put the blame on the new member of the family) the new family member developed a reputation in their community as being a person who liked to hurt other people because it was believed that their birth hurt their family.  If their birth caused more problems for their father than for their mother, they might get a reputation for (or be spiritually branded as) a person who likes to hurt other men.  If their birth caused more problems for their mother than for their father, they might get a reputation for (or be spiritually branded as) a person who likes to hurt women.  Pastor Ron told Dan that if this was the situation that Dan was born into, then this reputation (or spiritual branding) that was given to him by the community that he was a part of would have followed him as he went through school and would have also followed him later on when he started his working life.  Pastor Ron then gave Dan an example to explain in somewhat simple terms what might be going on between Dan and other people spiritually if Dan developed a reputation early in life as someone who likes to hurt other people.  At this point Pastor Ron said to him, "Dan, try to picture in your mind that when you are talking to another person, you are sending them spiritual energy.  You have some conscious control over this spiritual energy (which we will call personal spiritual energy).  Let's say that you also send the person who you are talking to a more subconscious type of spiritual energy.  This spiritual energy is being relayed by your community through you to the person who you are talking to.  This spiritual energy (which we will call group spiritual energy) is comprised of the combined spiritual energy of the people who you knew when you were growing up (or your community).  If your community came to a consensus that you like to hurt other people, it would be hard for you to be effective at sending positive spiritual energy to other people because while you were sending positive spiritual energy to the other person consciously, that other person would also be picking up subconscious vibrations from you that were made up of the negative group spiritual energy that was being relayed by your community through you to that other person.  This negative group spiritual energy would communicate to the other person that you are someone who likes to hurt other people."

 

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After hearing this Kala said, "Thomas, Pastor Ron's idea about how a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person might be sending conflicting signals to the people he meets (positive signals from himself and negative signals relayed by his community through him) is very interesting, but I would like to add something to Pastor Ron's example.  In Pastor Ron's example the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person sends negative spiritual energy that is relayed by his community through him to the people who he meets.  This negative spiritual energy tells them that he likes to hurt other people.  He has been spiritually branded by his community as being a person who likes to hurt other people because his birth took place at a time that was not convenient for his family and because the family put the blame onto the new family member."  

"Thomas, what I think we should look at is what happens when a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person who has been given a negative spiritual branding starts to form relationships with other people.  When the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person meets another person and that other person sees that the vulnerable person has been spiritually branded as someone who likes to hurt other people, it will be natural for that other person to think that they will be able to form a relationship with him (or her) if they are also someone who likes to hurt other people.  But when the relationship comes to an end, the person who developed the relationship with the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person will come to the conclusion that he not only likes to hurt other people but also that he likes to confuse other people.  They will come to this conclusion because they are confused about why their relationship with him did not work out.  It will not occur to them that the problem might be with the vulnerable person's spiritual branding (that maybe he is not really someone who likes to hurt other people).  This person who just ended their relationship with the vulnerable person will now add something new to the vulnerable person's spiritual branding.  They will add to his spiritual branding that he also likes to confuse other people.  Now when he meets a new person his community will relay through him to that new person that he likes to hurt other people and that he also likes to confuse other people.  At this point it will be natural for another new person who meets him (someone who likes to both hurt other people and confuse other people) to think that they will be able to form a relationship with him.  When that relationship eventually comes to an end that new person will also add something new to the spiritual branding of the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person.  At this point, when the vulnerable person meets a new person he will still be sending them positive personal spiritual energy but he will now be sending them two different types of negative group spiritual energy that are being relayed by his community through him to the people who he meets.  The first type of negative group spiritual energy that he will be sending gives the new person who he meets the group's spiritual consensus that he likes to hurt other people.  The second type of negative group spiritual energy gives to the new person who he meets the group spiritual consensus of all of the people who he has had relationships with since he started out his life spiritually branded as a person who likes to hurt other people."

 

 

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"To sum it up", said Kala, "I think that spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people such as Dan should try to communicate to their subconscious minds that they are aware that they may be unintentionally sending out two types of negative spiritual messages that are being relayed by their community through them to the people who they meet.  The first type of negative spiritual message gives the other person the impression that they like to hurt other people.  The second type of negative spiritual message gives the other person the group consensus of all of the people who the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person has had a relationship with since they started their life spiritually branded as a person who likes to hurt other people.  I think that Dan should try to communicate to his subconscious mind that he will try to be as positive as possible with the people who he deals with on a conscious level and perhaps he should also, with insight into the situation, ask his subconscious mind to try to override some of the negative spiritual vibrations that are being relayed by his community through him to the people who he meets and try to turn some of those negative spiritual vibrations into positive spiritual vibrations." 

 

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One night in the spring of 2008 a young man named Thomas, who was a college student in Chicago, had a few minutes free before he had to go to bed so he decided to do an online video chat session with his friend Dan.  Earlier in the evening Thomas and Dan had visited the pastor of a church in the Chicago area named Pastor Ron.  Thomas had met Pastor Ron on the airplane when he was going back to Los Angeles for his spring break a few weeks earlier.  When the pastor introduced himself to Thomas on the airplane he told him that he could call him Pastor Ron.  Thomas found Dan's name in the contacts of his video chat program and within a couple of minutes he could see Dan's face on his computer screen.  (Thomas and Dan are people who are real for the purposes of this story but who are not real in real life).

"Hi Dan", said Thomas, "I hope it's not too late to call.  But I was thinking about some of the things that we talked to Pastor Ron about tonight and I was wondering if you had some time to give me your ideas about what Pastor Ron had to say."

"Sure Thomas", said Dan, "I've been thinking about some of the things that Pastor Ron said too.  I think I understood most of what he said but there were a couple of things that confused me a little bit.  The first thing that confused me had to do with Pastor Ron's ideas about how in the past there were some pastors of churches who would get up and preach in a very loud and frightening manner about how everyone who was in the room was going to Hell unless they repented their sins that night.  Pastor Ron thought that a lot of pastors in the past used this technique to convince people that Hell might actually exist.  Pastor Ron felt that these pastors were actually making the people in the congregation feel conflict and confusion because they were saying to them consciously (to their faces) in a very convincing manner that they definitely believed that Hell existed while their subconscious minds were telling the subconscious minds of the people in the congregation that they did not really believe that Hell existed.  This would create a conflict between the conscious minds and the subconscious minds of the people in the congregation and because the pastor was preaching about Hell, it would make them think that the conflict had something to do with Hell.  Thomas, the only problem I see with this idea is that when you are talking to some of the older church people and you question the religious myths, they often will get so upset that you really feel that deep down in their souls they must actually believe that there is a physical place called Hell."

"Dan", said Thomas, "I think that when pastors used to preach about hellfire and brimstone years ago people in the congregation would sense that the pastor did not actually believe in a physical place called Hell, but I think that they also sensed that the pastor was spiritually connected to several of the people in the congregation and that those people were joined together with the pastor in a spiritual entity.  When the pastor started preaching hellfire and brimstone and one of the church members shouted "Amen, brother", the people in the congregation could sense that the pastor and that church member were of like mind and that they were spiritually connected to each other at that moment.  That church member did not believe deep down in their soul that there was a physical place called Hell, but they shared very strong beliefs with the pastor and with other members of the spiritual entity that they belonged to.  The members of this spiritual entity felt very strongly that it was very important for their spiritual entity to do whatever was necessary (even if it did spiritual and psychological damage to people who were vulnerable by making them feel guilty) to keep the myth of a physical place called Hell alive."

 

 

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"Thanks Thomas", said Dan, "I think I understand now what was happening in the churches many years ago.  Thomas, you mentioned to me last week how you think that some pastors today know that their congregations are too skeptical for them to preach about hellfire and brimstone.  For this reason they use other techniques.  One of the techniques they use might be to make fun of (and in doing so steal the spiritual energy of) a person who is spiritually and psychologically vulnerable (a person who has had their spiritual energy stolen from them in the past) in an effort to try to convince the people in the congregation that spiritual forces actually do exist. Thomas, the problem I see here is that I know that a lot of the people in churches such as those that you described seem to honestly feel that their pastor is not an opportunist who is in a cold and calculated manner using spiritual power plays to prove that spiritual forces exist."

"Dan", said Thomas, "I think that when a pastor during a sermon makes fun of a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person who he once knew, he is purposely trying to give confidence to the members of the congregation at the expense of the vulnerable person.  For example, I think it is possible that if a pastor talks in a condescending manner about a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person who he knew many years ago (and who now lives thousands of miles away), it is possible that at that moment (as the pastor speaks) spiritual energy is being taken from that vulnerable person who is thousands of miles away (through the Collective Subconscious) and that the spiritual energy is being distributed to the members of the pastor's congregation."

 

 

 

 

"Dan", continued Thomas, "when a pastor uses spiritual tricks such as these to steal the spiritual energy of a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person and to give that spiritual energy to the members of his congregation, he is not acting alone.  The pastor knows that there are several people in the congregation who firmly agree with what the pastor is doing when he takes advantage of people who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable.  Those people are joined together with the pastor in a spiritual entity.  The pastor and the other members of the pastor's spiritual entity believe that it is very important for their spiritual entity to do whatever is necessary to prove to the members of the congregation that spiritual forces actually do exist."

 

 

 

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Thomas thought for a moment and then said, "Dan, when I got home tonight from our visit with Pastor Ron I got to thinking about what might be going on in the soul of a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person who is taken advantage of by a mischievous pastor who he once knew.  I think that the congregation feels increased spiritual power coming into them from the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person who is thousands of miles away because they can sense (through the Collective Subconscious) that the vulnerable person's soul is very troubled at that moment because the vulnerable person has never understood the manner in which people are connected to each other spiritually.  The vulnerable person might start to get nervous and start to think about the pastor who is using him as a sermon illustration in another city, and he might start to think that maybe he is spiritually connected to the pastor.  But then later, due to the fact that the vulnerable person does not really believe in things of a spiritual nature, he will go back to thinking that his imagination was playing tricks on him and that he was not spiritually connected to the pastor at all.  The congregation that the pastor is speaking to knows that spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people will go back and forth between believing that they are spiritually connected to other people and not believing that people are spiritually connected to other people.  Their spiritual connections with other people are so weak that they only seem to notice those spiritual connections when other people are purposely taking advantage of them."  

Thomas thought for a moment and then continued, "If someday the vulnerable person decides that spiritual forces are real and that people such as the pastor who he once knew are actually a part of his soul, he might think that the pastor is a fairly large part of his soul because he has sensed so much negative spiritual energy coming into him from the pastor.  But actually the pastor is only a small part of the vulnerable person's soul.  It seems to the vulnerable person that the pastor is a large part of his soul because whenever the pastor talked about the vulnerable person to other people in a negative manner, it created confusion in the vulnerable person's soul.  Due to the fact that the vulnerable person did not understand spiritual forces, it would create panic in the vulnerable person's soul whenever the pastor said negative things about him to other people.  The pastor was actually only a small part of the vulnerable person's soul.  If the vulnerable person could learn to not panic when he senses that the pastor who he once knew is trying to take advantage of him, then the people in the pastor's congregation listening to the pastor would probably sense through the Collective Subconscious that the vulnerable person was not panicking and they would for this reason not feel that they were gaining confidence and gaining extra spiritual power at the expense of the vulnerable person."

 

 

 

 

 

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"Dan", continued Thomas, "before I called you tonight I did a short online video chat session with our mutual friend Kala (an online psychic in India who both Thomas and Dan had done online video chat sessions with).  I explained to Kala how Pastor Ron thinks that some people who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable might have been born at a time that not convenient for their family.  When a family is going through a hard time (such as a death in the family or a financial set back) and a new family member comes along, there is a danger that some of the more aggressive and unkind members of the community that the family is involved in will start to put increased amounts of pressure on the family in an effort to hurt the family at a time when they are down and vulnerable.  When a family is pressured in this sort of a way and a new member is born into the family, there is a danger that the family will transfer the negative spiritual energy that is coming into them from the members of their community that are pressuring the family to the new family member.  Because of this fact (and because the family decided to put the blame on the new member of the family) the new family member develops a reputation in their community as being a person who likes to hurt other people because it was believed that their birth hurt their family.  I told Kala that Pastor Ron thinks that this reputation (or spiritual branding) that was given to the vulnerable person by the community that he was a part of would have followed him as he went through school and would have also followed him later on when he started his working life.  Tonight Pastor Ron gave us an example to explain in somewhat simple terms what might be going on between spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people and other people spiritually if they develop a reputation early in life as someone who likes to hurt other people.  Pastor Ron told us to try to picture in our minds that when we are talking to another person, we are sending them spiritual energy.  We have some conscious control over this spiritual energy (which we will call personal spiritual energy).  Pastor Ron believes that we also send the person who we are talking to a more subconscious type of spiritual energy.  This subconscious spiritual energy is being relayed by our community through us to the person who we are talking to.  This spiritual energy (which Pastor Ron calls group spiritual energy) is comprised of the combined spiritual energy of the people who we knew when we were growing up ( our community).  If our community came to a consensus that we like to hurt other people (like it does for those people who were blamed for their family's problems), it would be hard for us to be effective at sending positive spiritual energy to other people because while we were sending positive spiritual energy to the other person consciously, that other person would also be picking up subconscious vibrations from us that were made up of the negative group spiritual energy that was being relayed by our community through us to that other person.  This negative group spiritual energy would communicate to the other person that we were the types of people who like to hurt other people."

 

 

 

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After hearing this Kala said to me, "Thomas, Pastor Ron's idea about how a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person might be sending conflicting signals to the people he meets (positive signals from himself and negative signals relayed by his community through him) is very interesting, but I would like to add something to Pastor Ron's example.  In Pastor Ron's example the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person sends negative spiritual energy that is relayed by his community through him to the people who he meets.  This negative spiritual energy tells them that he likes to hurt other people.  He has been spiritually branded by his community as being a person who likes to hurt other people because his birth took place at a time that was not convenient for his family and because the family put the blame onto the new family member."  

"What I think we should look at is what happens when a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person who has been given a negative spiritual branding starts to form relationships with other people.  When the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person meets another person and that other person sees that the vulnerable person has been spiritually branded as someone who likes to hurt other people, it will be natural for that other person to think that they will be able to form a relationship with him (or her) if they are someone who likes to hurt other people.  But when the relationship comes to an end, the person who developed the relationship with the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person will come to the conclusion that he not only likes to hurt other people but also that he likes to confuse other people.  They will come to this conclusion because they are confused about why their relationship with him did not work out.  It will not occur to them that the problem might be with the vulnerable person's spiritual branding (that maybe he is not really someone who likes to hurt other people).  This person who just ended their relationship with the vulnerable person will now add something new to the vulnerable person's spiritual branding.  They will add to his spiritual branding that he also likes to confuse other people.  Now when he meets a new person his community will relay through him to that new person that he likes to hurt other people and that he also likes to confuse other people.  At this point it will be natural for another new person who meets him (someone who likes to both hurt other people and confuse other people) to think that they will be able to form a relationship with him.  When that relationship eventually comes to an end that new person will also add something new to the spiritual branding of the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person."

 

 

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Thomas thought for a moment and then said, "In Kala's example, when someone ends a relationship with a vulnerable person that was based on the vulnerable person's spiritual branding as someone who likes to hurt other people, it will not occur to them that the vulnerable person's spiritual branding was not accurate.  But I was thinking after talking to Kala that it might be possible that some of the people who get involved with the vulnerable person might be suspicious that the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding was not correct.  Some of these people might go out into the Collective Subconscious and try to spiritually contact the family members who set the stage originally for the spiritual branding that was given to the vulnerable person.  They may try to verify with those people that the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding was correct.  If the various family members who set up the vulnerable person's original incorrect spiritual branding were to start broadcasting a more accurate version of the vulnerable person's spiritual branding to people who might from time to time (through the Collective Subconscious) question the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding, it would probably improve the vulnerable person's relationships with other people."                                                                                              

 

 

 

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Dan thought for a moment and then said, "Thomas, I think you've covered pretty well the questions that I had about our talk with Pastor Ron tonight.  But there is something that I would like to add to Pastor Ron's and Kala's examples of spiritual branding.  I think that a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person who has been incorrectly branded spiritually as someone who likes to hurt other people has to remember something.  If the vulnerable person gets into a pattern of getting involved with people who like to hurt other people (because the person who they got involved with started the relationship thinking that the vulnerable person likes to hurt other people), the vulnerable person will have trouble understanding those people who they have gotten involved with.  The vulnerable person is thought of as being someone who likes to hurt other people because of the incorrect original spiritual branding that was given to him.  When he gets involved with someone who likes to hurt other people and when the relationship with that person comes to an end, it will be natural for the vulnerable person to think that this other person must be at least somewhat similar to himHe might think that the other person, like him, was given an incorrect original spiritual branding and that the other person is not really someone who genuinely likes to hurt other people.  But that other person's spiritual branding (unlike the vulnerable person's spiritual branding) was not forced upon them.  The vulnerable person should realize that this person who they were once involved with might actually be a person who likes to hurt other people.".  

 

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One evening in the spring of 2008 a young man named Thomas, who was a college student in Chicago, was sitting in the office of the pastor of a church in the Chicago area who Thomas had met on the airplane when he went back to Los Angeles for his spring break a few weeks earlier.  When the pastor from Chicago introduced himself to Thomas on the airplane he told Thomas that he could call him Pastor Ron.  (Thomas and Pastor Ron are people who are real for the purposes of this story but who are not real in real life).

Thomas had enjoyed the conversation that he had with Pastor Ron on the airplane during their flight to Los Angeles (Pastor Ron had gone to Los Angeles to attend the yearly annual meeting of his church).  Thomas had also talked with Pastor Ron a second time two weeks earlier.  On that occasion Thomas and his friend Dan had paid a visit to Pastor Ron at his church to talk to him about questions they had about things of a spiritual nature.  Thomas and Dan had enjoyed very much their conversation with Pastor Ron.  Dan had planned to come with Thomas to visit Pastor Ron tonight but something came up at the last minute that forced him to stay home.

"Thomas", said Pastor Ron, "on the phone you said that you had some other questions about spiritual things that you and Dan have been discussing recently.  If you would like to start out by telling me some of the things that you guys have been talking about recently, I'd be glad to give you any insights that I might have when you are done."

"That sounds good", said Thomas.  "Pastor Ron, "when Dan and I were here last time you told us about how most of us have been in situations where we were going through a hard time and then we were very disappointed when the people around us (who we hoped would encourage us during our time of trouble) actually seemed to be happy about our misfortune (thereby making our pain even worse).  You explained that when a family is going through a hard time (such as a death in the family or a financial set back) and a new family member comes along, there is a danger that some of the more aggressive and unkind members of the community that the family is a part of will start to put increased amounts of pressure on the family in an effort to hurt the family at a time when they are down and vulnerable.  Some families can handle this type of pressure and humiliation better than others, but it is not easy for anyone to feel negative spiritual energy coming into them from members of their community when they feel that those people should be trying to help them in their time of difficulty.  You said that when a family is pressured in this sort of a way and a new member is born into the family, there is a danger that the family will transfer the negative spiritual energy that is coming into them from the members of their community that are pressuring the family to the new family member.  The other family members are able to keep their equilibrium because they do not have to absorb the negative spiritual energy that was previously coming into them.  Pastor Ron, you told Dan and I that it was your belief that there are quite a few spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people (people who have had their spiritual energy stolen from them by other people in the past) whose birth might have occurred at a time that was not convenient for their family.  Because of this fact (and because the family decided to put the blame on the new member of the family) the new family member developed a reputation in their community as being a person who liked to hurt other people because it was believed that their birth hurt their family.  You said that if this happened to a person this reputation (or spiritual branding) that was given to them by the community that they were a part of would have followed them as they went through school and also later on when they started their working life.  You gave Dan and I an example to explain what might be going on between a person who has been spiritually branded as a person who likes to hurt other people and the people who they meet.  You asked us to picture in our minds that when we are talking to another person, we send them spiritual energy.  We have some conscious control over this spiritual energy (which we call personal spiritual energy).  You asked us to also picture in our minds that we send the person who we are talking to a more subconscious type of spiritual energy.  This spiritual energy is being relayed by our community through us to the person who we are talking to.  This spiritual energy (which we call group spiritual energy) is comprised of the combined spiritual energy of the people who we knew when we were growing up (or our community).  You said that if our community came to a consensus that we liked to hurt other people, it would be hard for us to be effective at sending positive spiritual energy to other people because while we were sending positive spiritual energy to the other person consciously, that other person would also be picking up subconscious vibrations from us that were made up of the negative group spiritual energy that was being relayed through us by our community to that other person.   This negative group spiritual energy would communicate to the other person that we were the types of people who like to hurt other people."

 

 

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"Pastor Ron", continued Thomas, "after Dan and I visited you two weeks ago I did a short online video chat session with Kala (the online psychic in India who I have told you about).  I explained to Kala your ideas about how you think that some people who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable might have been born at a time that was not convenient for their family.  After I explained your ideas to Kala, she told me she thinks that your ideas about how a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person might be sending conflicting signals to the people he meets (positive signals from himself and negative signals relayed by his community through him) is very interesting, but she thought that there was something that could be added to your example.  In your example, Pastor Ron, the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person sends negative spiritual energy that is relayed by his community through him to the people who he meets.  This negative spiritual energy tells the other person that the vulnerable person has been spiritually branded by his community as being a person who likes to hurt other people.  Kala thought that it might be interesting to look at what happens when a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person who has been given a negative spiritual branding starts to form relationships with other people.  When the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person meets another person and that other person sees that the vulnerable person has been spiritually branded as someone who likes to hurt other people, it will be natural for that other person to think that they will be able to form a relationship with him if they are someone who likes to hurt other people.  But when the relationship comes to an end, the person who developed the relationship with the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person will come to the conclusion that he not only likes to hurt other people but also that he likes to confuse other people.  They will come to this conclusion because they are confused about why their relationship with the vulnerable person did not work out.  It will not occur to them that the problem might be with the vulnerable person's spiritual branding (that maybe he is not really someone who likes to hurt other people).  This person who has just ended their relationship with the vulnerable person will now add something new to the vulnerable person's spiritual branding.  They will add to his spiritual branding that he also likes to confuse other people.  Now when he meets a new person his community will relay through him to that new person that he likes to hurt other people and that he also likes to confuse other people.  At this point it will be natural for another new person who meets him (someone who likes to both hurt other people and confuse other people) to think that they will be able to form a relationship with him.  When that relationship eventually comes to an end that new person will also add something new to the spiritual branding of the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person."

 

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Thomas thought for a moment and then said, "Pastor Ron, in Kala's example, when someone ends a relationship with a vulnerable person that was based on the vulnerable person's spiritual branding as someone who likes to hurt other people, it will usually not occur to them that the vulnerable person's spiritual branding was not accurate.  But I was thinking after talking to Kala that it might be possible that some of the people who get involved with the vulnerable person might be suspicious that the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding was incorrect.  Some of these people might go out into the Collective Subconscious and try to spiritually contact the family members who set the stage originally for the spiritual branding that was given to the vulnerable person."

 

 

"They may try to verify with those people through the Collective Subconscious that the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding was correct.  If the various family members who set up the vulnerable person's original incorrect spiritual branding were to start broadcasting a more accurate version of the vulnerable person's spiritual branding to the people who might from time to time (through the Collective Subconscious) question the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding, it would probably improve the vulnerable person's relationships with other people."

 

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Pastor Ron thought for a moment and then said, "Thomas, I like very much the way that you and Kala have expanded my example about the problems that a person might develop in life if they have been spiritually branded as being a person who likes to hurt other people.  You said that Kala thought a woman might start a relationship with a vulnerable man because she liked to hurt other people and because the vulnerable man had been spiritually branded as being someone who liked to hurt other people.  I agree with Kala that if this were to happen the person who started the relationship with the vulnerable man would probably be confused when the relationship came to an end and they might add to the spiritual branding of the vulnerable man that he also liked to confuse other people.  I also liked your idea that people might from time to time contact the spiritual entity that is made up of the family members who created the original spiritual branding of the vulnerable person to verify that the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding was correct."

"Thomas", continued Pastor Ron, "I agree with your idea that it would be nice for the vulnerable person if the various family members who set up the vulnerable person's original incorrect spiritual branding started to broadcast a more accurate version of the original spiritual branding to people who might from time to time (through the Collective Subconscious) try to verify the accuracy of the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding.  But it is possible that the spiritual entity that makes up the various family members might not want to broadcast a more accurate version of the original spiritual branding.  In fact, there is a danger that the spiritual entity that is made up of the various family members might not only refuse to start broadcasting a more accurate version of the spiritual branding of the vulnerable person, but they might start broadcasting an even more inaccurate version of the spiritual branding when they realize how much control they have over the vulnerable person's relationships.  If the spiritual entity that is made up of the vulnerable person's family members decide that they do not want to correct the original spiritual branding, then the vulnerable person will need to develop insight into the fact that he is constantly sending mixed signals to the people who he meets.  The vulnerable person will need to realize that while he is sending positive personal spiritual energy to the people who he meets telling them that he does not like to hurt other people, his community is communicating through him to the people who he meets that he does like to hurt other people."

 

 

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"Thomas", continued Pastor Ron, "I would like to add something to your example about the vulnerable person's family members forming a spiritual entity that communicates to the world the inaccurate spiritual branding that they have given to the vulnerable member of their family.  I think we need to be aware that the vulnerable person himself might be a part (but only a small part) of the spiritual entity that broadcasts to the world an incorrect spiritual branding for him.  If the vulnerable person is only a small part of the spiritual entity he would not have sufficient power in the spiritual entity to stop the other members from broadcasting an incorrect spiritual branding for him.  If eventually the spiritual entity that is made up of the various family members started broadcasting an even more inaccurate spiritual branding for the vulnerable person, then it might be helpful if the vulnerable person could develop some insight into what was happening.  The vulnerable person could maybe start to try to communicate to other people subconsciously that the spiritual vibrations that they are picking up (the spiritual vibrations that are being relayed by his community through him) that tells them he likes to hurt other people is not correct.  He should also perhaps try to communicate to the people who he meets that even though he is a part of the spiritual entity that is made up of his family members, he is only a small part of that spiritual entity and he has not been able to get enough support from the other members of the spiritual entity when he has requested that they start broadcasting a more accurate version of the his spiritual branding."

 

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"Pastor Ron", said Thomas, "if it's ok with you I'd like to go a bit off topic for a minute of two.  When I was in Los Angeles on my spring break a few weeks ago I went out to dinner with my friend Jeffrey, who as you know is spiritually and psychologically vulnerable.  A friend of mine named Amber is a waitress at the restaurant where we had dinner.  Amber had told me about how last summer she got involved with a guy who was spiritually and psychologically vulnerable so I asked Amber to come over to our table and tell Jeffrey about that relationship."

"Well, at first", Amber told us, "I was reluctant to get too close to him.  I was pretty sure that it would not develop into a serious relationship so I felt kind of guilty getting involved with him.  But still I sensed that he was reaching out to me and that he wanted to get to know me.  After a while I realized that even though the exchanges of spiritual energy between us were not strong enough for me to be able to get seriously involved with him, it seemed to him like our relationship was serious.  When I met him, I could sense that he wanted to get involved with me but I didn't really understand why.  Now I understand why he was interested in me.  His relationship with me was the best relationship that he had ever had even though some of the people who knew both of us at the time thought that I was just using him.  What a lot of people had trouble understanding at that time was that there was a logical basis for us to have a relationship.  Just like he had been exchanging spiritual energy with girls who were similar to me (girls with normal spiritual structures) in the past, I had been exchanging spiritual energy with other spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guys in the past.  He was exchanging with me spiritual energy that he had exchanged with other girls in the past and I was exchanging with him spiritual energy that I had exchanged in the past with other spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guys."

Thomas thought for a moment and then said, "When Amber left our table to help some of the other customers Jeffrey commented to me that he could feel some very positive energy being exchanged between Amber and myself, and he asked me why I had never gotten involved romantically with Amber.  I explained to Jeffrey that most people as they are growing up develop two types of emotions.  They develop deep emotions for the people who they are really close to emotionally, and they also develop a "practical" set of emotions that they use when they are in situations where they are dealing with people in their school while they are growing up or where they are dealing with people in business types of situations when they start their working lives.  For example, a girl who is running for homecoming queen or for a class office while in high school might develop "practical" relationships where she merges the practical part of her soul with her fellow students for the purpose of getting their votes in the school election.  I explained to Jeffrey that what I think is happening between Amber and myself is that I am exchanging my practical types of emotions with Amber and she is exchanging her practical types of emotions with me.  So even though the exchanges of spiritual energy between us are positive, those exchanges of spiritual energy are not a good basis for developing a serious relationship."

"Thomas", said Pastor Ron, "what you have just described about your friend Amber's involvement with a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy explains pretty well I think why people who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable might have trouble understanding what is happening to them when they get emotionally involved with another person.  I think that if the vulnerable person could realize that they might have been exchanging their spiritual energy with only the practical side of the other person's soul, it might be easier for them to learn how to "let go" when the person who they were involved with tells them to back off."

 

 

 

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"Thomas", said Pastor Ron, "to sum things up, I think that it could be useful for vulnerable people who have been given an incorrect spiritual branding to try to communicate subconsciously to the people who they meet that they are aware that the other person might be picking up conflicting spiritual vibrations from them.  The vulnerable person should maybe try to communicate subconsciously to the people who he meets that he might have been given an incorrect spiritual branding that says that he likes to hurt other people.  He should also perhaps try to communicate to the other person that over a period of time his spiritual branding has slowly changed to where other people now pick up spiritual vibrations from him that tells the other person that he likes to both hurt and confuse other people.  I also think that the vulnerable person should try to communicate subconsciously to other people that he has tried unsuccessfully to get the people who gave him his original incorrect spiritually branding to correct his spiritual branding.  And finally I think that he should try to communicate subconsciously to the people who he meets that the people who gave him his original incorrect spiritual branding have not only refused to correct his spiritual branding but that they have also created a myth that says that the vulnerable person was given every break imaginable in life when in actuality he was intentionally programmed to fail."

 

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"Pastor Ron", said Thomas, "I really appreciate the insights that you have given me.  Thank you very much for letting me come out here tonight."  

 

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One night in the spring of 2008 a young man named Dan, who had lived in Chicago for several years, had a few minutes free before he had to go to bed so he decided to do an online video chat session with his friend Thomas.  Dan knew that earlier in the evening Thomas had visited the pastor of a church in the Chicago area named Pastor Ron.  Thomas had met Pastor Ron on the airplane when he was going back to Los Angeles for his spring break a few weeks earlier.  When the pastor introduced himself to Thomas on the airplane he told him that he could call him Pastor Ron.  Dan found Thomas' name in the contacts of his video chat program and within a couple of minutes he could see Thomas' face on his computer screen.  (Dan and Thomas are people who are real for the purposes of this story but who are not real in real life).

"Hi Thomas", said Dan, "I hope that it's not too late to call.  I was hoping that you would be able to fill me in on what you and Pastor Ron talked about tonight."

"I'm glad you called, Dan", said Thomas.  "I've been thinking about what Pastor Ron and I talked about tonight, and I wanted to get your ideas about a  couple of things that Pastor Ron told me."

"Dan", continued Thomas. "my conversation with Pastor Ron tonight started out with me reminding him about what we talked about when you and I visited him two weeks ago.  At that time he told us about how most of us have been in situations where we were going through a hard time and then we were very disappointed when the people around us (who we hoped would encourage us during our time of trouble) actually seemed to be happy about our misfortune (thereby making our pain even worse).  He explained to us that when a family is going through a hard time (such as a death in the family or a financial set back) and a new family member comes along, there is a danger that some of the more aggressive and unkind members of the community that the family is a part of will start to put increased amounts of pressure on the family in an effort to hurt the family at a time when they are down and vulnerable.  Some families can handle this type of pressure and humiliation better than others, but it is not easy for anyone to feel negative spiritual energy coming into them from members of their community when they feel that those people should be trying to help them in their time of difficulty.  Pastor Ron told us he believes that when a family is pressured in this sort of a way and a new member is born into the family, there is a danger that the family will transfer the negative spiritual energy that is coming into them from the members of their community that are pressuring the family to the new family member.  The other family members are able to keep their equilibrium because they do not have to absorb the negative spiritual energy that was previously coming into them.  Pastor Ron told us he thinks that there are quite a few spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people (people who have had their spiritual energy stolen from them by other people in the past) whose birth might have occurred at a time that was not convenient for their family.  Because of this fact (and because the family decided to put the blame on the new member of the family) the new family member developed a reputation in their community as being a person who liked to hurt other people because it was believed that their birth hurt their family.  He told us that if this happened to a person this reputation (or spiritual branding) that was given to them by the community that they were a part of would have followed them as they went through school and also later on when they started their working life.  Pastor Ron gave us an example to explain what might be going on between a person who has been spiritually branded as a person who likes to hurt other people and the people who they meet.  He asked us to picture in our minds that when we are talking to another person, we send them spiritual energy.  We have some conscious control over this spiritual energy (which we call personal spiritual energy).  He asked us to also picture in our minds that we send the person who we are talking to a more subconscious type of spiritual energy.  This spiritual energy is being relayed by our community through us to the person who we are talking to.  This spiritual energy (which we call group spiritual energy) is comprised of the combined spiritual energy of the people who we knew when we were growing up (or our community).  He said that if our community came to a consensus that we liked to hurt other people, it would be hard for us to be effective at sending positive spiritual energy to other people because while we were sending positive spiritual energy to the other person consciously, that other person would also be picking up subconscious vibrations from us that were made up of the negative group spiritual energy that was being relayed through us by our community to that other person.  This negative group spiritual energy would communicate to the other person that we were the types of people who like to hurt other people."

Thomas paused for a moment and then continued, "Dan, at this point in our conversation I told Pastor Ron about the online video chat session that I had recently with Kala (Kala is an online psychic in India who both Dan and Thomas had done online video chat sessions with).  I told Pastor Ron that I asked Kala if she could give me her insights about Pastor Ron's ideas.  Kala told me she thought that it would be interesting to look at what happens when a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person who has been given a negative spiritual branding starts to form relationships with other people.  When the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person meets another person and that other person sees that the vulnerable person has been spiritually branded as someone who likes to hurt other people, it will be natural for that other person to think that they will be able to form a relationship with him if they are someone who likes to hurt other people.  But when the relationship comes to an end, the person who developed the relationship with the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person will come to the conclusion that he not only likes to hurt other people but that he also likes to confuse other people.  They will come to this conclusion because they are confused about why their relationship with the vulnerable person did not work out.  It will not occur to them that the problem might be with the vulnerable person's spiritual branding (that maybe he is not really someone who likes to hurt other people).  This person who has just ended their relationship with the vulnerable person will now add something new to the vulnerable person's spiritual branding.  They will add to his spiritual branding that he also likes to confuse other people.  Now when the vulnerable person meets a new person his community will relay through him to that new person that he likes to hurt other people and that he also likes to confuse other people."

"Dan", continued Thomas, "in Kala's example, when someone ends a relationship with a vulnerable person that was based on the vulnerable person's spiritual branding as someone who likes to hurt other people, it will usually not occur to them that the vulnerable person's spiritual branding was not accurate.  But I was thinking after talking to Kala that it might be possible that some of the people who get involved with the vulnerable person might be suspicious that the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding was incorrect.  Some of these people might go out into the Collective Subconscious and try to spiritually contact the family members who set the stage originally for the spiritual branding that was given to the vulnerable person."

 

 

 

"They might try to verify with the family members through the Collective Subconscious that the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding was correct.  If the various family members who set up the vulnerable person's original incorrect spiritual branding were to start broadcasting a more accurate version of the vulnerable person's spiritual branding to the people who might from time to time (through the Collective Subconscious) question the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding, it would probably improve the vulnerable person's relationships with other people."

 

 

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"Dan", continued Thomas, "after hearing all of this Pastor Ron said he thought that it could be useful for vulnerable people who have been given an incorrect spiritual branding to try to communicate subconsciously to the people who they meet that they are aware that the other person might be picking up conflicting spiritual vibrations from them.  The vulnerable person should maybe try to communicate subconsciously to the people who he meets that he has been given an incorrect spiritual branding that says that he likes to hurt other people.  He should also perhaps try to communicate to the other person that over a period of time his spiritual branding has slowly changed to where other people now pick up spiritual vibrations from him that tells the other person that he likes to both hurt and confuse other people.  Pastor Ron also thinks that the vulnerable person should try to communicate subconsciously to other people that he has tried unsuccessfully to get the people who gave him his original incorrect spiritually branding to correct his spiritual branding.  And finally Pastor Ron thinks that the vulnerable person should try to communicate subconsciously to the people who he meets that the people who gave him his original incorrect spiritual branding have not only refused to correct his spiritual branding but that they have also created a myth that says that the vulnerable person was given every break imaginable when in actuality he was intentionally programmed to fail".

 

 

 

 

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"Dan", said Thomas, "at this point in my conversation with Pastor Ron I told him a little bit about what happened when I went back home to Los Angeles on my spring break a few weeks ago.  I told him that I went out to dinner with my friend Jeffrey, who as you know is spiritually and psychologically vulnerable.  A friend of mine named Amber is a waitress at the restaurant where Jeffrey and I had dinner.  Amber had told me about how last summer she got involved with a guy who was spiritually and psychologically vulnerable so I asked Amber to come over to our table and tell Jeffrey about that relationship."

"Well, at first", Amber told us, "I was reluctant to get too close to him.  I was pretty sure that it would not develop into a serious relationship so I felt kind of guilty getting involved with him.  But still I sensed that he was reaching out to me and that he wanted to get to know me.  After a while I realized that even though the exchanges of spiritual energy between us were not strong enough for me to be able to get seriously involved with him, it seemed to him like our relationship was serious.  When I met him, I could sense that he wanted to get involved with me but I didn't really understand why.  Now I understand why he was interested in me.  His relationship with me was the best relationship that he had ever had even though some of the people who knew both of us at the time thought that I was just using him.  What a lot of people had trouble understanding at that time was that there was a logical basis for us to have a relationship.  Just like he had been exchanging spiritual energy with girls who were similar to me (girls with normal spiritual structures) in the past, I had been exchanging spiritual energy with other spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guys in the past.  He was exchanging with me spiritual energy that he had exchanged with other girls in the past and I was exchanging with him spiritual energy that I had exchanged in the past with other spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guys."

"Then I told Pastor Ron that when Amber left our table to help some of the other customers Jeffrey commented to me that he could feel some very positive energy being exchanged between Amber and myself, and he asked me why I had never gotten involved romantically with Amber.  I explained to Jeffrey that most people as they are growing up develop two types of emotions.  They develop deep emotions for the people who they are really close to emotionally, and they also develop a "practical" set of emotions that they use when they are in situations where they are dealing with people in their school while they are growing up or where they are dealing with people in business types of situations when they start their working lives.  I explained to Jeffrey that what I think is happening between Amber and myself is that I am exchanging my practical types of emotions with Amber and she is exchanging her practical types of emotions with me.  So even though the exchanges of spiritual energy between us are positive, those exchanges of spiritual energy are not a good basis for developing a serious relationship."

"After I explained what had happened at the restaurant to Pastor Ron, he said that what I had told him about Amber's involvement with a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy explained why people who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable might have trouble understanding what is happening to them when they get emotionally involved with another person.  Pastor Ron said he thought that if people who were spiritually and psychologically vulnerable could realize that they have only been exchanging their spiritual energy with the practical part of the soul of the person who they think they are getting involved with, then it might be easier for them to "let go" when the other person tells them to back off."

 

 

 

 

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"Thomas", said Dan, "As you know, I am also a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy.  Why do you think that it is sometimes hard for a vulnerable guy to avoid showing interest in a woman who is only merging the practical part of her soul with him?"

"Dan", said Thomas, "that is a question that has been on my mind since I got home tonight after my visit with Pastor Ron.  After thinking about it for a while I started to realize that the answer to that question might have something to do with what Pastor Ron said tonight.  Pastor Ron said that sometimes the family of a vulnerable person might create a myth about the vulnerable person is not true.  For example, the family might only give the vulnerable person a small position in the spiritual entity that is made up of the various family members and then create a myth that says that the vulnerable person has an equal position in the family.  As I got to thinking about this it occurred to me that a family that creates a myth such as this one might create another myth when the vulnerable family members starts to form relationships with people outside of their family.  The family might be afraid that someone outside of the family might help the vulnerable person to develop their emotions so that they can become stronger.  Because the family is afraid of this happening they might create a myth that says that the vulnerable person is capable of forming deep relationships with other people.  If the family can convince the people in their community that the vulnerable person has strong emotions, then people outside of the family will think that the vulnerable family member does not need their help." 

 

 

 

 

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Thomas thought for a moment and then continued, "Dan, as you and I have discussed many times before, everyone begins the process of exchanging their subconscious spiritual thoughts and feelings with other people shortly after they are born.  Some of the spiritual information (spiritual energy) that they "pick up" from other people early in life may contain cultural and religious myths that have no basis in fact, but those cultural and religious myths will seem magical to them and they will allow those myths to go deep into their souls because the myths will come into them in a magical way (through the automatic exchange of subconscious spiritual energy with other people through the Collective Subconscious).  Dan, when you meet a woman and she merges the practical part of her soul with you there is more going on that just an exchange of spiritual energy between you and the practical part of the woman's soul.  The woman who you meet is also exchanging her spiritual energy through the Collective Subconscious with other people who she knows.  Dan, you might have gotten into a pattern where you are interfacing with a woman (who I will call a "primary woman") who is only merging the practical part of her soul with you.  But this primary woman is relaying the spiritual energy that she picks up from you to other women who she knows (who I will call "secondary women") through the Collective Subconscious.  And she might be relaying the spiritual energy that she picks up from the secondary women who she knows to you through the Collective Subconscious.  What I am saying is that when you meet a woman who is merging only the practical part of her soul with you, at that moment you might be picking up some fairly strong emotional feelings.  You might be picking up some strong emotional feelings because you can sense that there is a magical exchange of spiritual energy taking place between yourself and the secondary women who this woman knows.  The secondary women are receiving your spiritual energy from the primary woman and you are receiving the spiritual energy of the secondary women from the primary woman.

 

 

 

 

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"Dan", continued Thomas, "I think that vulnerable guys might have a problem when dealing with a primary woman who only merges the practical part of her soul with them because of the myths that have been created by the vulnerable guy's family.  Because the vulnerable guy's family broadcasts out to the world a myth that says that the vulnerable guy does not have weak emotions, it does not occur to anyone (including the primary women and secondary women who he gets to know) that his entire emotional structure might be based on his interfacing with a primary woman who relays his spiritual energy through the Collective Subconscious to the secondary women who she knows.   The end result of all of this is that the primary woman will be upset with the vulnerable guy for developing emotional ties with her friends who are secondary women and then not developing those relationships.  And the secondary women will be upset with the vulnerable guy because they believe that he has been "leading them on" emotionally.  The primary woman and the secondary women do not understand that the vulnerable guy needs the assistance of a primary woman (who serves as a relay point) in order for him to be able to develop a relationship with a secondary woman".

 

 

 

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"Thomas", said Dan, "you have given me a lot to think about tonight and I really appreciate your insights.  Have a good night." 

 

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One evening in the spring of 2008 a young man named Dan, who had lived in Chicago for several years, and his friend Thomas, who was a college student in Chicago, were on their way to visit the pastor of a church in the Chicago area who Thomas had met on the airplane when he went back to Los Angeles for his spring break a few weeks earlier.  When the pastor from Chicago introduced himself to Thomas on the airplane he told Thomas that he could call him Pastor Ron.  (Dan, Thomas, and Pastor Ron are people who are real for the purposes of this story but who are not real in real life).

Dan and Thomas had visited Pastor Ron before so when they got to Pastor Ron's church they went to a side door that they knew would be open and they went straight to Pastor Ron's office.  After a couple of minutes of exchanging greetings Pastor Ron said "Thomas, on the phone you said that you and Dan had some questions about spiritual things that you guys have been discussing recently.  If you or Dan could start out by telling me some of the things that you guys have been discussing recently, I'd be happy to give you any insights that I might have when you are done."

"That sounds good", said Thomas.  "Pastor Ron, the last time that Dan and I were here you explained to us that when a family is going through a hard time (such as a death in the family or a financial set back) and a new family member comes along, there is a danger that some of the more aggressive and unkind members of the community that the family is a part of will start to put increased amounts of pressure on the family in an effort to hurt the family at a time when they are down and vulnerable.  Some families can handle this type of pressure and humiliation better than others, but it is not easy for anyone to feel negative spiritual energy coming into them from members of their community when they feel that those people should be trying to help them in their time of difficulty.  You told us you believe that when a family is pressured in this sort of a way and a new member is born into the family, there is a danger that the family will transfer the negative spiritual energy that is coming into them from the members of their community that are pressuring the family to the new family member.  The other family members are able to keep their equilibrium because they do not have to absorb the negative spiritual energy that was previously coming into them.  You told us you think that there are quite a few spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people (people who have had their spiritual energy stolen from them by other people in the past) whose birth might have occurred at a time that was not convenient for their family.  Because of this fact (and because the family decided to put the blame on the new member of the family) the new family member developed a reputation in their community as being a person who liked to hurt other people because it was believed that their birth hurt their family.  You told us that if this happened to a person this reputation (or spiritual branding) that was given to them by the community that they were a part of would have followed them as they went through school and also later on when they started their working life.  You gave us an example to explain what might be going on between a person who has been spiritually branded as a person who likes to hurt other people and the people who they meet.  You asked us to picture in our minds that when we are talking to another person, we send them spiritual energy.  We have some conscious control over this spiritual energy (which we call personal spiritual energy).  You asked us to picture in our minds that we also send the person who we are talking to a more subconscious type of spiritual energy.  This spiritual energy is being relayed by our community through us to the person who we are talking to.  This spiritual energy (which we call group spiritual energy) is comprised of the combined spiritual energy of the people who we knew when we were growing up (or our community).  You said that if our community came to a consensus that we liked to hurt other people, it would be hard for us to be effective at sending positive spiritual energy to other people because while we were sending positive spiritual energy to the other person consciously, that other person would also be picking up subconscious vibrations from us that were made up of the negative group spiritual energy that was being relayed through us by our community to that other person.  This negative group spiritual energy would communicate to the other person that we were the types of people who like to hurt other people."

"Pastor Ron", continued Thomas, "I was thinking that it would be interesting to look at what might happen when a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person who has been given a negative spiritual branding starts to form relationships with other people.  When the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person meets another person and that other person sees that the vulnerable person has been spiritually branded as someone who likes to hurt other people, it will be natural for that other person to think that they will be able to form a relationship with him if they are someone who likes to hurt other people.  But when the relationship comes to an end, the person who developed the relationship with the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person will come to the conclusion that he not only likes to hurt other people but that he also likes to confuse other people.  They will come to this conclusion because they are confused about why their relationship with the vulnerable person did not work out.  It will not occur to them that the problem might be with the vulnerable person's spiritual branding (that maybe he is not really someone who likes to hurt other people).  This person who has just ended their relationship with the vulnerable person will now add something new to the vulnerable person's spiritual branding.  They will add to his spiritual branding that he also likes to confuse other people.  Now when the vulnerable person meets a new person his community will relay through him to that new person that he likes to hurt other people and that he also likes to confuse other people."

"When someone ends a relationship with a vulnerable person that was based on the vulnerable person's spiritual branding as someone who likes to hurt other people, it will usually not occur to them that the vulnerable person's spiritual branding was not accurate.  But it might be possible that some of the people who get involved with the vulnerable person might be suspicious that the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding was incorrect.  Some of these people might go out into the Collective Subconscious and try to spiritually contact the family members who set the stage originally for the spiritual branding that was given to the vulnerable person."

 

 

 

"They might try to verify with the family members through the Collective Subconscious that the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding was correct.  If the various family members who set up the vulnerable person's original incorrect spiritual branding were to start broadcasting a more accurate version of the vulnerable person's spiritual branding to the people who might from time to time (through the Collective Subconscious) question the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding, it would probably improve the vulnerable person's relationships with other people."

 

 

 

 

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"Pastor Ron", continued Thomas, "the last time I talked to you I told you a little bit about what happened when I went back home to Los Angeles on my spring break a few weeks ago.  I told you that I went out to dinner with my friend Jeffrey, who as you know is spiritually and psychologically vulnerable.  A friend of mine named Amber is a waitress at the restaurant where Jeffrey and I had dinner.  Amber had told me about how last summer she got involved with a guy who was spiritually and psychologically vulnerable so I asked Amber to come over to our table and tell Jeffrey about that relationship."

"After Amber told Jeffrey about her relationship with the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guy she left our table to help some of the other customers.  At this point Jeffrey commented to me that he could feel some very positive energy being exchanged between Amber and myself, and he asked me why I had never gotten involved romantically with Amber.  I explained to Jeffrey that most people as they are growing up develop two types of emotions.  They develop deep emotions for the people who they are really close to emotionally, and they also develop a "practical" set of emotions that they use when they are in situations where they are dealing with people in their school while they are growing up or where they are dealing with people in business types of situations when they start their working lives.  I explained to Jeffrey that what I think is happening between Amber and myself is that I am exchanging my practical types of emotions with Amber and she is exchanging her practical types of emotions with me.  So even though the exchanges of spiritual energy between us are positive, those exchanges of spiritual energy are not a good basis for developing a serious relationship."

"Pastor Ron, I remember that after I told you about my conversation with Jeffrey where we talked about the difference between deep emotions and practical emotions, you said you thought that if people who were spiritually and psychologically vulnerable could realize that they have only been exchanging their spiritual energy with the practical part of the soul of the person who they think they are getting involved with, then it might be easier for them to "let go" when the other person tells them to back off."

"Last week Dan and I were talking about why it is sometimes difficult for people who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable to avoid getting involved with somebody who is only merging the practical part of their soul with them.  While talking to Dan it occurred to me that the answer to that question might have something to do with your idea that sometimes the family of a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person might create a myth about the vulnerable person that is not true.  For example, the family might only give the vulnerable person a small position in the spiritual entity that is made up of the various family members and then create a myth that says that the vulnerable person has an equal position in the family.  As I got to thinking about this it occurred to me that a family that creates a myth such as this one might also create another myth when the vulnerable family member starts to form relationships with people outside of their family.  The family might be afraid that someone outside of the family might help the vulnerable person to develop their emotions so that they can become stronger.  Because the family is afraid of this happening they might create a myth that says that the vulnerable person is capable of forming deep relationships with other people when the vulnerable person is actually not capable of creating deep relationships with other people.  If the family can convince the people in their community that the vulnerable person has strong emotions, then people outside of the family will think that the vulnerable family member does not need their help."

 

 

 

 

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"Pastor Ron", continued Thomas, "as we have discussed before, everyone begins the process of exchanging their subconscious spiritual thoughts and feelings with other people shortly after they are born.  Some of the spiritual information (spiritual energy) that they "pick up" from other people early in life might contain cultural and religious myths that have no basis in fact, but those cultural and religious myths will seem magical to them and they will allow those myths to go deep into their souls because the myths will come into them in a magical way (through the automatic exchange of subconscious spiritual energy with other people through the Collective Subconscious).  When a vulnerable guy meets a woman who is only merging the practical part of her soul with him, there is more going on than just an exchange of spiritual energy between the vulnerable guy and the practical part of the woman's soul.  The woman who the vulnerable guy meets is also exchanging her spiritual energy through the Collective Subconscious with other people who she knows.  I think that a lot of spiritually and psychologically vulnerable guys might have gotten into a pattern where they are interfacing with a woman (who I call a "primary woman") who is only merging the practical part of her soul with the vulnerable guy.  But this primary woman is relaying the spiritual energy that she picks up from the vulnerable guy to other women who she knows (who I call "secondary women") through the Collective Subconscious.  And she might be relaying the spiritual energy that she picks up from the secondary women who she knows to the vulnerable guy through the Collective Subconscious.  When a vulnerable guy meets a woman who is merging only the practical part of her soul with him, at that moment he might be picking up some fairly strong emotional feelings.  He might be picking up some strong emotional feelings because he can sense that there is a magical exchange of spiritual energy taking place between himself and the secondary women who this woman knows.  The secondary women are receiving the vulnerable guy's spiritual energy from the primary woman and the vulnerable guy is receiving the spiritual energy of the secondary women from the primary woman."

 

 

 

 

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"Pastor Ron, I think that because of the fact that the vulnerable guy's family broadcasts out to the world a myth that says that the vulnerable guy has strong emotions, it does not occur to anyone (including the primary women and the secondary women who he gets to know) that his entire emotional structure might be based on his interfacing with a primary woman who relays his spiritual energy through the Collective Subconscious to the secondary women who she knows.  The end result of this is that the primary woman will be upset with the vulnerable guy for developing emotional ties with her friends who are secondary women and then not trying to further develop those relationships.  And the secondary women will be upset with the vulnerable guy because they believe that he has been "leading them on" emotionally.  The primary woman and the secondary women do not understand that the vulnerable guy needs the assistance of a primary woman (who serves as a relay point) in order for him to be able to develop a relationship with a secondary woman".

Pastor Ron thought for a moment and then said, "Thomas, I think that there is a lot of truth in what you have just said.  But I would like to add that in addition to a vulnerable guy interfacing with a primary woman, I think that a lot of vulnerable guys might have also gotten into a pattern of interfacing with a primary man who is only merging the practical part of his soul with the vulnerable guy.  In a manner similar to the primary woman in your example, the primary man is relaying the spiritual energy that he picks up from the vulnerable guy to secondary men who he knows through the Collective Subconscious.  And the primary man might also be relaying the spiritual energy that he picks up from the secondary men who he knows to the vulnerable guy through the Collective Subconscious." 

 

 

 

 

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