One night in the spring of 2008 a young man named Thomas, who was a college student in Chicago, had a few minutes free before he had to go to bed so he decided to do an online video chat session with his friend Dan.  Earlier in the evening Thomas and Dan had visited the pastor of a church in the Chicago area named Pastor Ron.  Thomas had met Pastor Ron on the airplane when he was going back to Los Angeles for his spring break a few weeks earlier.  When the pastor introduced himself to Thomas on the airplane he told him that he could call him Pastor Ron.  Thomas found Dan's name in the contacts of his video chat program and within a couple of minutes he could see Dan's face on his computer screen.  (Thomas and Dan are people who are real for the purposes of this story but who are not real in real life).

"Hi Dan", said Thomas, "I hope it's not too late to call.  But I was thinking about some of the things that we talked to Pastor Ron about tonight and I was wondering if you had some time to give me your ideas about what Pastor Ron had to say."

"Sure Thomas", said Dan, "I've been thinking about some of the things that Pastor Ron said too.  I think I understood most of what he said but there were a couple of things that confused me a little bit.  The first thing that confused me had to do with Pastor Ron's ideas about how in the past there were some pastors of churches who would get up and preach in a very loud and frightening manner about how everyone who was in the room was going to Hell unless they repented their sins that night.  Pastor Ron thought that a lot of pastors in the past used this technique to convince people that Hell might actually exist.  Pastor Ron felt that these pastors were actually making the people in the congregation feel conflict and confusion because they were saying to them consciously (to their faces) in a very convincing manner that they definitely believed that Hell existed while their subconscious minds were telling the subconscious minds of the people in the congregation that they did not really believe that Hell existed.  This would create a conflict between the conscious minds and the subconscious minds of the people in the congregation and because the pastor was preaching about Hell, it would make them think that the conflict had something to do with Hell.  Thomas, the only problem I see with this idea is that when you are talking to some of the older church people and you question the religious myths, they often will get so upset that you really feel that deep down in their souls they must actually believe that there is a physical place called Hell."

"Dan", said Thomas, "I think that when pastors used to preach about hellfire and brimstone years ago people in the congregation would sense that the pastor did not actually believe in a physical place called Hell, but I think that they also sensed that the pastor was spiritually connected to several of the people in the congregation and that those people were joined together with the pastor in a spiritual entity.  When the pastor started preaching hellfire and brimstone and one of the church members shouted "Amen, brother", the people in the congregation could sense that the pastor and that church member were of like mind and that they were spiritually connected to each other at that moment.  That church member did not believe deep down in their soul that there was a physical place called Hell, but they shared very strong beliefs with the pastor and with other members of the spiritual entity that they belonged to.  The members of this spiritual entity felt very strongly that it was very important for their spiritual entity to do whatever was necessary (even if it did spiritual and psychological damage to people who were vulnerable) to keep the myth of a physical place called Hell alive."                                                                        

                                                                                           

 

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"Thanks Thomas", said Dan, "I think I understand now what was happening in the churches many years ago.  Thomas, you mentioned to me last week how you think that some pastors today know that their congregations are too skeptical for them to preach about hellfire and brimstone.  For this reason they use other techniques.  One of the techniques they use might be to make fun of (and in doing so steal the spiritual energy of) a person who is spiritually and psychologically vulnerable (a person who has had their spiritual energy stolen from them in the past) in an effort to try to convince the people in the congregation that spiritual forces actually do exist. Thomas, the problem I see here is that I know that a lot of the people in churches such as those that you described seem to honestly feel that their pastor is not an opportunist who is in a cold and calculated manner using spiritual power plays to prove that spiritual forces exist."

"Dan", said Thomas, "I think that when a pastor during a sermon makes fun of a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person who he once knew, he is purposely trying to give confidence to the members of the congregation at the expense of the vulnerable person.  For example, I think it is possible that if a pastor talks in a condescending manner about a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person who he knew many years ago (and who now lives thousands of miles away), it is possible that at that moment (as the pastor speaks) spiritual energy is being taken from that vulnerable person who is thousands of miles away (through the Collective Subconscious) and that the spiritual energy is being distributed to the members of the pastor's congregation."

 

                                                         

"Dan", continued Thomas, "when a pastor uses spiritual tricks such as these to steal the spiritual energy of a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person and to give that spiritual energy to the members of his congregation, he is not acting alone.  The pastor knows that there are several people in the congregation who firmly agree with what the pastor is doing when he takes advantage of people who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable.  Those people are joined together with the pastor in a spiritual entity.  The pastor and the other members of the pastor's spiritual entity believe that it is very important for their spiritual entity to do whatever is necessary to prove to the members of the congregation that spiritual forces actually do exist."

 

 

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Thomas thought for a moment and then said, "Dan, when I got home tonight from our visit with Pastor Ron I got to thinking about what might be going on in the soul of a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person who is taken advantage of by a mischievous pastor who he once knew.  I think that the congregation feels increased spiritual power coming into them from the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person who is thousands of miles away because they can sense (through the Collective Subconscious) that the vulnerable person's soul is very troubled at that moment because the vulnerable person has never understood the manner in which people are connected to each other spiritually.  The vulnerable person might start to get nervous and start to think about the pastor who is using him as a sermon illustration in another city, and he might start to think that maybe he is spiritually connected to the pastor.  But then later, due to the fact that the vulnerable person does not really believe in things of a spiritual nature, he will go back to thinking that his imagination was playing tricks on him and that he was not spiritually connected to the pastor at all.  The congregation that the pastor is speaking to knows that spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people will go back and forth between believing that they are spiritually connected to other people and not believing that people are spiritually connected to other people.  Their spiritual connections with other people are so weak that they only seem to notice those spiritual connections when other people are purposely taking advantage of them."  

Thomas thought for a moment and then continued, "If someday the vulnerable person decides that spiritual forces are real and that people such as the pastor who he once knew are actually a part of his soul, he might think that the pastor is a fairly large part of his soul because he has sensed so much negative spiritual energy coming into him from the pastor.  But actually the pastor is only a small part of the vulnerable person's soul.  It seems to the vulnerable person that the pastor is a large part of his soul because whenever the pastor talked about the vulnerable person to other people in a negative manner, it created confusion in the vulnerable person's soul.  Due to the fact that the vulnerable person did not understand spiritual forces, it would create panic in the vulnerable person's soul whenever the pastor said negative things about him to other people.  The pastor was actually only a small part of the vulnerable person's soul.  If the vulnerable person could learn to not panic when he senses that the pastor who he once knew is trying to take advantage of him, then the people in the pastor's congregation listening to the pastor would probably sense through the Collective Subconscious that the vulnerable person was not panicking and they would for this reason not feel that they were gaining confidence and gaining extra spiritual power at the expense of the vulnerable person."

 

 

 

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"Dan", continued Thomas, "before I called you tonight I did a short online video chat session with our mutual friend Kala (an online psychic in India who both Thomas and Dan had done online video chat sessions with).  I explained to Kala how Pastor Ron thinks that some people who are spiritually and psychologically vulnerable might have been born at a time that not convenient for their family.  When a family is going through a hard time (such as a death in the family or a financial set back) and a new family member comes along, there is a danger that some of the more aggressive and unkind members of the community that the family is involved in will start to put increased amounts of pressure on the family in an effort to hurt the family at a time when they are down and vulnerable.  When a family is pressured in this sort of a way and a new member is born into the family, there is a danger that the family will transfer the negative spiritual energy that is coming into them from the members of their community that are pressuring the family to the new family member.  Because of this fact (and because the family decided to put the blame on the new member of the family) the new family member develops a reputation in their community as being a person who likes to hurt other people because it was believed that their birth hurt their family.  I told Kala that Pastor Ron thinks that this reputation (or spiritual branding) that was given to the vulnerable person by the community that he was a part of would have followed him as he went through school and would have also followed him later on when he started his working life.  Tonight Pastor Ron gave us an example to explain in somewhat simple terms what might be going on between spiritually and psychologically vulnerable people and other people spiritually if they develop a reputation early in life as someone who likes to hurt other people.  Pastor Ron told us to try to picture in our minds that when we are talking to another person, we are sending them spiritual energy.  We have some conscious control over this spiritual energy (which we will call personal spiritual energy).  Pastor Ron believes that we also send the person who we are talking to a more subconscious type of spiritual energy.  This subconscious spiritual energy is being relayed by our community through us to the person who we are talking to.  This spiritual energy (which Pastor Ron calls group spiritual energy) is comprised of the combined spiritual energy of the people who we knew when we were growing up (our community).  If our community came to a consensus that we like to hurt other people (like it does for those people who were blamed for their family's problems), it would be hard for us to be effective at sending positive spiritual energy to other people because while we were sending positive spiritual energy to the other person consciously, that other person would also be picking up subconscious vibrations from us that were made up of the negative group spiritual energy that was being relayed by our community through us to that other person.  This negative group spiritual energy would communicate to the other person that we were the types of people who like to hurt other people."

 

 

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After hearing this Kala said to me, "Thomas, Pastor Ron's idea about how a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person might be sending conflicting signals to the people he meets (positive signals from himself and negative signals relayed by his community through him) is very interesting, but I would like to add something to Pastor Ron's example.  In Pastor Ron's example the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person sends negative spiritual energy that is relayed by his community through him to the people who he meets.  This negative spiritual energy tells them that he likes to hurt other people.  He has been spiritually branded by his community as being a person who likes to hurt other people because his birth took place at a time that was not convenient for his family and because the family put the blame onto the new family member."  

"What I think we should look at is what happens when a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person who has been given a negative spiritual branding starts to form relationships with other people.  When the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person meets another person and that other person sees that the vulnerable person has been spiritually branded as someone who likes to hurt other people, it will be natural for that other person to think that they will be able to form a relationship with him (or her) if they are someone who likes to hurt other people.  But when the relationship comes to an end, the person who developed the relationship with the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person will come to the conclusion that he not only likes to hurt other people but also that he likes to confuse other people.  They will come to this conclusion because they are confused about why their relationship with him did not work out.  It will not occur to them that the problem might be with the vulnerable person's spiritual branding (that maybe he is not really someone who likes to hurt other people).  This person who just ended their relationship with the vulnerable person will now add something new to the vulnerable person's spiritual branding.  They will add to his spiritual branding that he also likes to confuse other people.  Now when he meets a new person his community will relay through him to that new person that he likes to hurt other people and that he also likes to confuse other people.  At this point it will be natural for another new person who meets him (someone who likes to both hurt other people and confuse other people) to think that they will be able to form a relationship with him.  When that relationship eventually comes to an end that new person will also add something new to the spiritual branding of the spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person."

 

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Thomas thought for a moment and then said, "In Kala's example, when someone ends a relationship with a vulnerable person that was based on the vulnerable person's spiritual branding as someone who likes to hurt other people, it will not occur to them that the vulnerable person's spiritual branding was not accurate.  But I was thinking after talking to Kala that it might be possible that some of the people who get involved with the vulnerable person might be suspicious that the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding was not correct.  Some of these people might go out into the Collective Subconscious and try to spiritually contact the family members who set the stage originally for the spiritual branding that was given to the vulnerable person.  They may try to verify with those people that the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding was correct.  If the various family members who set up the vulnerable person's original incorrect spiritual branding were to start broadcasting a more accurate version of the vulnerable person's spiritual branding to the people who might from time to time (through the Collective Subconscious) question the vulnerable person's original spiritual branding, it would probably improve the vulnerable person's relationships with other people."

 

 

 

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Dan thought for a moment and then said, "Thomas, I think you've covered pretty well the questions that I had about our talk with Pastor Ron tonight.  But there is something that I would like to add to Pastor Ron's and Kala's examples of spiritual branding.  I think that a spiritually and psychologically vulnerable person who has been incorrectly branded spiritually as someone who likes to hurt other people has to remember something.  If the vulnerable person gets into a pattern of getting involved with people who like to hurt other people (because the person who they got involved with started the relationship thinking that the vulnerable person likes to hurt other people), the vulnerable person will have trouble understanding those people who they have gotten involved with.  The vulnerable person is thought of as being someone who likes to hurt other people because of the incorrect original spiritual branding that was given to him.  When he gets involved with someone who likes to hurt other people and when the relationship with that person comes to an end, it will be natural for the vulnerable person to think that this other person must be at least somewhat similar to them.  They might think that the other person, like them, was given an incorrect original spiritual branding and that the other person is not really someone who genuinely likes to hurt other people.  But that other person's spiritual branding (unlike the vulnerable person's spiritual branding) was not forced upon them.  The vulnerable person should realize that this person who they were once involved with might actually be a person who likes to hurt other people."

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