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Fire from Salt Water
John Kanzius has found a way to burn salt water with the same radio wave machine he is using to kill cancer cells.
Kanzius was testing his external radio-wave generator to see if it could desalinate salt water, and the water ignited. A university chemist determined that the process is generating hydrogen, which can be burned as fuel.
While the phenomenon is interesting, it is not yet practical for energy generation as long as more energy is consumed by the radio frequency device than is produced for burning. Efficiency-wise, they started at around 76 percent of Faraday's theoretical limit. (Other Hydrogen-from-Water methods, such as the one being pursued by Bob Boyce (http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Transportation/Bob_Boyce/), are approaching 7x Faraday). They subsequently quietly reported that they surpassed 100% efficiency, which would mean that the system is somehow harnessing environmental energy such as from the zero point or some other yet-to-be discovered phenomenon.
Another problem to be overcome from burning salt water is the liberation of toxic chlorine (from the Cl of NaCl/salt).
Kanzius says if someone wants to buy up the rights to the technology, that would be fine. He would use the funds to finance his quest to cure cancer.
About
Official Website
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Videos
9 mins; compilation
- Saltwater Burns (YouTube (http://youtube.com/watch?v=h6vSxR6UKFM); WKYC, WSEE tv, JET tv; June 9, 2007)
Latest Developments
Jan. 30, 2008
- Paper > Intracellular gold nanoparticles enhance non-invasive radiofrequency thermal destruction of human gastrointestinal cancer cells (http://www.jnanobiotechnology.com/content/6/1/2) - "We demonstrate that GNPs 1) have no intrinsic cytotoxicity or anti-proliferative effects in two human cancer cell lines in vitro and 2) GNPs release heat in a focused external RF field. This RF-induced heat release is lethal to cancer cells bearing intracellular GNPs in vitro." (Journal of Nanobiotechnology 2008, 6:2doi:10.1186/1477-3155-6-2)
Oct. 31, 2007
- Kanzius treatment kills cancer cells in rabbits (http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071031/NEWS02/710310441/-1/NEWS) - Hard evidence that researchers using John Kanzius' radio-wave generator are successfully killing cancer cells has been published by the American Cancer Society. (Go Erie; October 31. 2007)
- Sending his cancer a signal (http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-cancer2nov02,0,4741362.story?page=1&track=ntothtml&coll=la-tot-topstories) - John Kanzius, sorely weakened by leukemia treatments, drew on his lifetime of working with radio waves to devise a machine that targets cancer cells. The miracle: It works. (LA Times; Nov. 2, 2007)
Sept. 28, 2007
John wrote the following in response to an email describing the cancer work (http://www.rice.edu/sallyport/2004/winter2/sallyport/nanoshell.html) of Doctor Naomi Halas, working with Doctor Jennifer West (Rice University, Houston, TX) who have a similar method.
- "That is true except the treatment they have developed is good for surface malignancies...I think you will be reading about ours at MD Anderson in the next 4-6 weeks."
Sept. 12, 2007
- Salt water fuel gets major university review (http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=74285&GID=zk4SwIKSnGIds9hUfynnp+AmKjjOke5Fp+37lHLYo9Q%3D) - (WKYC; Sept. 12, 2007)
Aug. 12, 2007
John Kanzius wrote:
The CBS News Network was in last week [regarding] the cancer procedure. They also taped some of the saltwater. We shall see what happens in the next few weeks. I have had Motor Trend folks in and have the worlds foremost authorities on water coming in soon.
Aug. 11, 2007
- Fonda helps Kanzius (photo) (http://goerie.mycapture.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?image=15783510) Actor Peter Fonda hugs John Kanzius after speaking at Liberty Park on Friday, August 10. Fonda helped to raise money for the John Kanzius Cancer Research Fund by participating in the ride and signing autographs. (Erie Times News; 8/11/2007)
July 31, 2007
From http://www.erieblogs.com/archives/2007/07/
Inventor John Kanzius will share the latest updates on his groundbreaking cancer research project to area business and community leaders, during the Manufacturers' Association's monthly Eggs 'n' Issues briefing, Tuesday, July 31, at the Manufacturers' Association of Northwest Pennsylvania (http://www.manp.org/) Conference Center, 2171 West 38th Street at 8 am.
To register for this briefing, contact Tracy Shepard at 814/833-3200, 800/815-2660 or click here (http://www.manp.org/upcoming-events/168/schedule/) to register on the Association's web site. Cost is $30 for members, $60 for non-members.
[...] The Kanzius Non-invasive Radio Wave Treatment is a potential cancer therapy that uses high-energy radio waves to destroy cancer cells that have been "tagged" with nano particles. Nano particles attached to cancer cells are heated by radio waves to a temperature, which destroys the cancer cells. The technique is non-invasive, and can be provided without the need for auxiliary chemotherapy or radiation. Intensive and promising technological research about the Kanzius Radio wave Treatment is currently under way at M. D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, Texas, the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, the Mayo Clinic and other American medical centers.
June 06, 2007
John Kanzius write:
"Since it appears we now have now achieved more than unity, I am going to do an embargo on releasing all further information.
"Actually there are smart individuals who have posted on different web sited and actually have a pretty good idea of what is happening."
June 01, 2007
"I am in the process of redesigning the electronics for the saltwater as to see what efficiency we can achieve.
"Why does everyone think this is a form of electrolysis?
"Some scientists who have made comments on certain web sites actually understand the mechanism of action.
"Regarding moving this forward, I want to see what are the best results we can achieve with joules in vs joules out. A chemist in Houston whom I know is going to be doing a couple of things for me this weekend." -- John Kanzius (June 01, 2007)
How it Works
Kanzius is not publicly disclosing the mechanism of action at this time.
He says that the process would not be considered a form of electrolysis.
"It has nothing in common with the Rife concept except the word radio waves....He was supposedly looking for resonant frequencies of the cells themselves. This is nanoparticle technology. The nanoparticles are relatively new in the science and medical world. Gold nanoparticles and carbon nanotubes are the molecules that enter the cancer cells to be thermally destroyed by the non-invasive radio waves..The frequencies themselves are not even close..." (May 27, 2007)
"It does take much sodium to discolor the flame. We have measured the before and after burns and very little sodium has been expended." (May 29, 2007)
"What burns at a temperature of over 1700 C? [Knowing the answer to that question] might take some of the guess work out of the equation." (May 29, 2007)
- "PLASMA does and the flame seem to have an electrical quality." -- Jerome E. Goodwin Sr. (May 29, 2007)
Patents
Kanzius has filed patents on the saltwater utilization as a possible alternative fuel.
Profiles
Company: ??
On Oct. 5, 2007, John said that "the largest research centers and nanoscientists in the world" are involved in this project.
John Kanzius Research Fund
The Erie Community Foundation, 109 W 6th st in Erie 16501 is taking donations to the John Kanzius Research Fund until January, 2007. Donations may be sent there. Contact Mary Ann at yochimm@natfuel.com (mailto:yochimm@natfuel.com?subject=John_Kanzius_Research_fund_mentioned_at_PESWiki.com)
Inventor: John Kanzius
Sanibel Island [Florida] resident John Kanzius is a former broadcast executive from Pennsylvania who wondered if his background in physics and radio could come in handy in treating the disease from which he suffers: cancer. A person witnessing the device asked him if it might desalinate water. When he ran an experiment using a test tube of salt water, the water began to burn.
John Kanzius' primary interest is in using this radio frequency nanotechnology to cure cancer. This Hydrogen-from-Salt Water discovery is but an interesting if not annoying detour for him.
He invites interested parties to visit their lab to see a demonstration of the technology.
Coverage
Videos
- Water Fuel Cell > Overview Video: Water as Fuel (via ZPE) (3 min) - While academia has been spurning the topic, hundreds, if not thousands of hobbyists and independent investigators worldwide are working on various electrolysis-like projects which put out more energy than was required to run the electrolysis unit. (PES Network Video; Aug. 31, 2007)
In the News
- Google News > Kanzius (http://news.google.com/news?&q=kanzius)
- PSU to study Kanzius invention (http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071121/NEWS02/711210389) - Another team of researchers at yet another major university will work full time on John Kanzius' external radio-wave generator. Kanzius reached a joint working agreement with Pennsylvania State University to develop uses for the device based on its ability to burn saltwater. (Erie Times News; Nov. 21, 2007)
- Researcher sets saltwater on fire (http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/11/14/saltwater.fire/index.html) - Last winter, inventor John Kanzius was already attempting one seemingly impossible feat -- building a machine to cure cancer with radio waves -- when his device inadvertently succeeded in another: He made saltwater catch fire. (CNN / PopSci; Nov. 14, 2007)
- If we could just burn salt water, we'd never run out of fuel (http://www.motortrend.com/features/editorial/112_0711_technologue/) - Dr. Roy speculates that because the 13.56-MHz radio frequency is a harmonic of the natural frequency of sodium ions, the waves are causing these positive ions to vibrate intensely. Van der Waal's effects attract the oxygen end of water molecules to the positive sodium ions, and the vibration shakes the oxygen molecules hard enough to break the hydrogen bonds, freeing the hydrogen gas, which then ignites and burns. (MotorTrend; date?)
- Salt Water Can "Burn," Scientist Confirms (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/09/070913-burning-water.html) - Rustum Roy of Pennsylvania State University verified earlier this month that the radio waves break the water into its components, allowing the resulting freed hydrogen and oxygen to catch fire. (National Geographic, DC; September 14, 2007)
- Salt water fuel gets major university review (http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=74285&GID=zk4SwIKSnGIds9hUfynnp+AmKjjOke5Fp+37lHLYo9Q%3D) - (WKYC; Sept. 12, 2007)
- Salt water as fuel? Erie man hopes so (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07252/815920-85.stm) - Rustum Roy, a Penn State University chemist, held a demonstration last week at the university's Materials Research Laboratory in State College, to confirm what he'd witnessed weeks before in an Erie lab. (Post Gazette; Sept. 9, 2007) (See also Yahoo News (http://green.exterminator.com/index.php?q=node/1570&emailsent=1))
- John Kanzius to be on CBS - John Kanzius, who came up with a way to burn salt water using radio frequencies (RF), will be featured on the morning of Aug. 27 on CBS's Morning Show at around 7:40 EDT concerning the cancer applications of his RF technology.
- Renowned scientist lauds Kanzius’ invention (http://tech.groups.exterminator.com/group/kanzius_effect/message/73) - A materials scientist is heated up over the effect of John Kanzius’ external radio-wave generator on salt water. “It is scientifically a staggeringly important discovery,” said Rustum Roy, a leading authority on microwave applications on materials technology. Roy was in Erie to view experiments with the radio-wave generator at Industrial Sales and Manufacturing Inc., the Millcreek company that builds Kanzius’ generator. (Erie Times News (http://goerie.com); Aug. 11, 2007) [subscription required]
- Kanzius' generator sparks interest - He’s been “doping” saltwater with various chemicals — he won’t identify them on the record — to see if he can generate more energy than the 200 watts of electricity needed to power the radio waves. (Erie Times News (http://goerie.com); Jul 30, 2007) [subscription required]
- Fla. Man Invents Machine To Turn Water Into Fire (http://www.wpbf.com/news/13383827/detail.html) (includes video) - John Kanzius invented a radio wave machine in an attempt to kill cancer. While trying to desalinize salt water with the machine, the water started burning. The machine breaks down the hydrogen-oxygen bond in the water, igniting the hydrogen. (WPBF; Palm Beach, FL, USA; May 24, 2007)
- Slide show (http://www.wpbf.com/slideshow/news/13384010/detail.html)
- Florida Man Invents Machine To Cure Cancer (http://www.wpbf.com/health/11125485/detail.html) (WPBF; February 28, 2007)
- Water into fuel? (http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=68227) - Four years ago, inspiration struck in the middle of the night. Kanzius decided to try using radio waves to kill the cancer cells. (WKYC; May 23, 2007)
- KANZIUS DISCOVERS ALTERNATIVE FUEL (http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070518/WSEE01/70517027/-1) - John Kanzius and his associate Charlie Rutkowski have found a way to create energy by burning salt water with the same radio wave machine they are using to kill cancer cells. (WSEE; Erie, PA, USA; May 18. 2007)
- Video (http://interface.audiovideoweb.com/lnk/va92win15111/CURRAN051707.wmv/play.asx)
- From Treating Cancer to Finding Alternative Fuels (http://www.wjettv.com/content/fulltext/?cid=2424) (includes video link) - He's already on the path to finding a treatment for cancer, now Erie inventor John Kanzius may have discovered a way to produce alternative fuels. ... (WJET, PA - May 17, 2007)
- YourErie.com (http://www.yourerie.com/content/fulltext/?cid=2424) - same story
Other Sites
Forum
- http://groups.exterminator.com/group/kanzius_effect - Discussion list for those interested in the phenomenon discovered by John Kanzius of salt water emitting flamable gas when exposed to his radio frequency device. (Commenced May 29, 2007)
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RF imitates platinum catalyst
On June 16, 2007, Charles Kilmer wrote (http://tech.groups.exterminator.com/group/kanzius_effect/message/29) to the kanzius effect discussion list:
I wrote a blog on this topic. Some of the links go back to this discussion group.
http://nick2.wordpress.com/2007/06/01/saltwater-into-fire/
I have an updated post Here: http://nick2.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/kanzius-and-penn-state-chemist-rostum-roy/
Read through the blog carefully.
What you should see is the secret sauce to the Kanzius effect. Its contained in one of kanzius patents and in an expired eu patent.
What's happening is that the RF is imitating the radio frequency of some catalyst for water separations. My guess is that the catalyst frequency that's being imitated is platinum since that's the big expensive catalyst in hydrogen fuel cells. What's happening is that the salt water is fooled into believing there's a platinum catalyst in the water.
The other thing that's happening is that the Na is getting really hot really fast. Na --like any metal in a microwave is a heatsink. The water is first destablized by the RF and then its broken apart by the superheated Na.
Now consider if they could eliminate platinum from fuel cells altogether while using salt water as a storage and fuel for hydrogen -- suddenly hydrogen fuel cell cars would be dramatically cheaper.
To see what I mean consider this article on hydrogen fuel cells
http://www.lanl.gov/news/index.php/fuseaction/home.story/story_id/1673
Background paper: Fuel cells at Los Alamos
- Lord Peel Says:
November 12th, 2007 at 11:23 pm e
The use of high frequencies to increase the efficency of water seperation seems to be a recuring discovery for inventors. Check out the patent for Stanley Meyer's `Water Fuel Cell' US Pat No 4,936,961. A device that produced hydrogen and oxygen from water using high frequency electric fields between two plates and exibited the same increase in performance when exposed to solar radiation. From the details in the patents I have calculated the frequency of the electric fields to be around 1.38Mhz, 10 times lower than the frequency for platinum but I believe the device relied on the resonant cavity between the two plates to produce a higher harmonic. As to being an energy 'source', if the catalysing effect of the RF can be produced efficiently enough then the actual splitting of the water could be done by ambient radiation, even low level heat. the convertion of ambient or solar energy into a fuel gas would make this kind of device a sustainable form of renewable energy. ////////////////
water droplets are arcing from the R.F.
On June 6, 2007, Jerome E. Goodwin Sr. wrote:
> The " flame " is not truly burning in this case the
> water droplets are arcing from the R.F. ( Radio
> Frequency ) energy. It is the same as a waveguide
> arcing when moisture gets in it. The water turns to
> steam as the salt is heated and the R.F. finishes
> the job by arcing between the droplets. The
> "plasma" is just R.F..
Some responses
- http://tech.groups.exterminator.com/group/kanzius_effect/message/14 - RF is an energy signal created via a simple spark of a switch of 2 wires touching eachother, the good old relay "morse code", every electronic device in the...
- http://tech.groups.exterminator.com/group/kanzius_effect/message/15 - Air, heat, gas, electricity, conductivity, capacitance, thermal temp. A Few Possibilities: 1: Still some gas left over that's burning until exhuasted or the ...
- http://tech.groups.exterminator.com/group/kanzius_effect/message/18 - It looks to me as video on youtube.com supports Jerome's observation regarding RF making the arc (like plasma) between dense droplets of water. The paper towel...
Caused by Polarization of the Hydrogen Molecules; magnetic bond
On June 28, 2007, Ted Green <Theodore.A.Green {at} l-3com.com> wrote:
To get right to the point, I believe the Kanzius effect is caused by the polarization of the hydrogen molecules in the water. This polarization causes the two atoms of hydrogen to lose their 105 degree orientation to each other and de-stabilize the water molecule. The unstable water molecule comes apart easily then, combining hydrogen to hydrogen and oxygen to oxygen in a magnetic bond. Because the water molecules’ special property to hold sodium is lost, some sodium atoms must also be released to react violently with the water still present. This ignites hydrogen which recombines with the oxygen to keep the wick from being consumed. The unusual properties of the HHO gas, catalyzes the whole process to a very high efficiency.
Related Technologies
- Wireless Headset Causes Fire from Water in Microwave (http://pesn.com/2008/04/04/9500476_headset_microwave_water_fire/) - Retired university professor, Teresa Audesirk, reports seeing flames shoot out of a container with green beans in salted water in her microwave as she walked by it wearing a wireless headset, which operates in the VHF range. (PESN; April 4, 2008)
- Bio-Energetics > Radio Frequency Ablasion - Patented technology by Joel Fallik pre-dates John Kanzius' work, and has a wide range of non-invasive, disease-eliminating applications through the targeting of heat to precise points through the interference patterns of two microwave generators. It is being spurned in the market because it would take the huge profits out of disease.
Contact
John Kanzius
In Erie, Pennsylvania for the summer months
email and phone # on file with Sterling D. Allan, who has permission to forward pertinent emails to John.
John Kanzius Research Fund
The Erie Community Foundation, 109 W 6th st in Erie 16501 is taking donations to the John Kanzius Research Fund until January, 2007. Donations may be sent there. Contact Mary Ann at yochimm@natfuel.com (mailto:yochimm@natfuel.com?subject=John_Kanzius_Research_fund_mentioned_at_PESWiki.com)
See also
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- Directory:Hydrogen from Water
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