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YouTube - Saltwater Burns - John Kanzius
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YouTube - Saltwater Burns - John Kanzius

Science – While searching for a cancer cure, this man has discovered that he can "burn" saltwater.

Tags: environment, green, energy saving

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Amazing1, That is AMAZING indeed!!!!! Wow I hope this turns into something we can all use.

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The only "fly in the ointment" so to speak is where does the energy come from that produces the radio waves for it has to come from somewhere.

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And even more important, how MUCH energy has to go into making those radio waves that split the hydrogen atoms from the oxygen atoms?

Splitting water into its components has been done for more than a century. But unless there's some huge breakthrough in the physics with the new process, this is not going to be a new energy source.

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From the looks of it, salt (sodium chloride) may be acting as a catalyst in this reaction. Of course, the exact process which cracks the H-O bond is unknown at this time, but my suspicion is that quantum mechanics may be playing a role here. Something is exciting these atoms to sever this very strong bond. Salt also makes the salt-water electrically conductive, and may supply electrons and then receiving them back like a typical catalyst.

It could be very interesting event in Physics!

Einstein may be looking up on this one!

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"but my suspicion is that quantum mechanics may be playing a role here."

Riiiiight Dr.searchbeam

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True. I would like to see more research on this. Especially on the yield end. If this separation could be accomplished with minimal input it would be a terrific boon otherwise it is nothing more that what we already have.

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This is amazing!!!

It would be a wonderful solution!!

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That IS amazing. But with oil companies currently raking in record profits, they have every reason to buy the patent and sit on the technology for at least a decade or two.

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That's true, I would hope that would not be allowed by the government. To me that would show just who's side the government is on.

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The same government that makes more money in federal and state excise taxes on gas and oil than the oil companies do?

Don't hold your breath.

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Uh, no. Oil is perfectly valuable for making plastics, and they'll be making huge profits off the stuff for as long as it can be pumped out of the ground.

Now, if they could buy the patent from this guy for a reasonable price, they could continue to control the energy market, since they would own a piece of every seawater-burning engine made for the next 17 years.

Give these guys credit for not being total dunces...almost everyone in the business is very familiar with how mineral oil replaced whale oil. They don't want to be in the buggy whip business any more than you do.

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I agree, Big Oil has done that so many times in the past. Also, Tesla discovered that you could "beam" power to remote locations without the use of wires, but their was no way to "meter" the amount of power used by the customer so it never advanced.

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America doesn't rule the world. Japan imports 95% of it's energy. If this is practical at all, they'll be all over it like white on rice.

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Excellent! Fantastic find, thanks Amazing1!

This would be wonderful if the cure for cancer and solve some of our energy problems could be that close to being solved!

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I just hope that this invention can be brought to market in some way that is truly useful before big oil gets their hands on it.

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It is amazing! John Kanzius is the Nick Tesla of today! Salt water! I can imagine that the oil industry should perk up, and take notice! If not they are stupid not too. Great post Amazing1! Thanks!

I hope this can treat, and obliterate cancer cells so that the disease is just a thing of the past. I've seen the illness take away a lot of my friends.

='o(

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BB the oil companies would survive just about everthing else we use is petroleum based. It would be nice to cut a few spokes out of the petroleum wheel and reduce pollution for energy needs.

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Amazing1,

This is truly amazing!

In this energy equation, it will be interesting to see the amount of net gain, which will make it practical and usable.

energy out - energy in = net gain

I hope this IS the Holy Grail of energy!

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God, has put everything here on earth, that we will ever need to exist, forever.All we have to do is discover what is is that we need.

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"All we have to do is discover what is is that we need."

And realize that what we need is a helluva lot less that what we want, and are told to want.

Do we really need I-Phones? Really?

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Hypothesis #1 - the amount of energy used to generate the radio waves is significantly less than the energy released when the hydrogen and oxygen recombine. A corollary would be that the second law of thermodynamics no longer applies, the field of physics will be turned upside down.

Hypothesis #2 - the amount of energy used to generate the radio waves is is greater than the energy released when the hydrogen and oxygen combine. This would make the burning of saltwater fairly useless as a panacea for an energy shortage, but would be consistent with everything generally observed in the natural world. The second law of thermodynamics would still hold.

Anyone taking bets on which will turn out to be the case?

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Quantum Physics is perhaps the only thing that can shed light on this issue.

When atomic bonds are broken tremendous amount of energy is released, like in the fission reaction in an atom bomb.

Also, when electrons jump from one orbit to a lower one, substantial energy is released.

Conventional physics does not answer these questions, and the Second Law of Thermodynamics cannot answer it, either.

If it it turns out to be a quantum leap, that would explain a lot.

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so if this was used in a car , what powers the machine to create the fire?

a battery?

I am confused......

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mamasan,

You are right. That is one possible source to generate radio waves.

Depending upon the amount of energy needed to excite the saltwater molecules, it could be very low, like in a typical cell phone or it could be much higher.[Essentially, radio waves are created by an oscillating circuit. There are two factors to a radio wave: amplitude and frequency. (Amplitude modulated waves are used in an AM radio, and Frequency modulated waves are used in an FM radio.) Typically,shorter wavelength and higher frequency translates to higher energy.]

Energy levels higher than that will probably need a more complex circuit. Typically you use more energy to create radio waves than the energy of the resulting radio waves.

Alternatively, it could be a tiny generator running on ethanol that would provide the required energy to excite the saltwater molecules.

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Presence of the salt water in the near field of the radio antenna will alter its impedance, drawing more current and more power from the power supply. The high electric field in the water sample causes the hydrogen and oxygen to disassociate and free hydrogen and oxygen gas are produced. Any source of ignition will cause those gases to recombine with production of heat at the surface of the water, forming water again.

The net process is endothermic; that is, it consumes energy. This whole thing is nonsense and shows who was paying attention in science class.

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awlhlm,

Your analysis is accurate when we use Classical Physics and Chemistry.

However, Quantum Physics puts the Classical Physics and Chemistry on their ears! Most of the quantum phenomenon cannot be explained in terms of classical science.

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Wow! A three for one alternative, cure cancer, alternate fuel and desalination of sea water! This could be one of the biggest finds in history!

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OOh, OOh! Scientific breakthrough! RF radiation can break the bond between hydrogen and oxygen in water! (if it is made conductive) And then, wait for it, you can set the resultant Hydrogen and Oxygen on fire!

But wait, there's more! This flame can produce mechanical energy when applied to a Sterling heat engine! The same engine that can run from the heat of a cup of hot coffee.!

http://jlnlabs.imars.com/html/stirling.htm

Imagine using your 1000 watt microwave oven to heat a cup of simple saltwater to power a Sterling engine that turns! You can even put a small fan on it to dissipate the heat that the microwave oven produces!

Truly a discovery for the ages!

With your financial help to help me secure the necessary patents to produce this amazing technology, we all can soon have abundant energy from the sea, the cradle of life.

If I could afford to patent this technology on my own I would. Unfortunately several large energy companies are fighting me.

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For those believers who genuinely care about eco-friendly energy, I would request donations to help me fight the energy conglomerates who are trying to suppress my patents.

Thank You all so much. You may send private messages to find out more.

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Tony,

I hope you are not spamming!

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Can someone explain these 'quantum' theories to me? From the reports I've read on the flame, it burns at 1500 or 1700 degrees C. A hydrogen flame burns at ~2300C.

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spock1,

I don't know if I am qualified to teach, but I will try.

Quantum Physics is one of the hardest things to comprehend, because it does not fit into the mold of knowledge we acquire in our conventional learning. Classical, or Newtonian physics deals with visible, measurable world. Quantum physics deals with phenomenon related to the smallest particles like atoms, electrons, neutrons, positrons and some of the particles that have never been seen - like neutrinos.

If you look at an atom, it resembles a solar system. There is the nucleus, and then there are electrons spinning around the nucleus. These electrons move in orbits and there are up to seven concentric orbits. First orbit is the closest to the nucleus and has a maximum of 2 electrons. The next orbit has 8, the next has 18, the next has 32, the next has 18 and the last one has up to eight electrons.

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Left to themselves, these electrons keep on spinning in their orbit in their jolly, merry way.

When something like an electric charge causes them to get excited, they can jump from a higher orbit to a lower orbit. When this happens, it is called a quantum leap and it releases a lot of energy. These electrons also have a habit of knocking off other electrons from their orbits. Because of the very large number of atoms in a small size of an element, such phenomenon gets multiplied over and over, creating tremendous bursts of energy. Sometimes this process continues on and on and on, creating what is called a chain-reaction. An example is an atom bomb.

The rules of Classical Physics generally do not apply at these atomic levels, because the masses involved are extremely small, and the relative amount of energy is very high. Electromagnetic fields play a much larger role in this world of atoms.

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Chemical bonds in a molecule consisting of two elements - like water molecule consisting of hydrogen and oxygen atoms bonded together - are essentially based upon one element sharing its excess electrons to fill in the gap of the outer orbit of the other element. If these electrons of one element completely cover the shortage of electrons in the other element, the bond between these two elements becomes extremely strong. If an external shot of energy dislocates an electron in this situation, it has the potential of releasing tremendous amount of energy - sometimes, several magnitudes of the external energy. Such a reaction gives a net gain of energy. Conventional laws of thermodynamics or classical mechanics don't hold here! It is a completely different world there!

Well, there, in a nutshell, you have it! I tried!

You may call it Quantum Physics for the Dummies, By the Dummies!

Peace, Blessings and Understanding!

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