Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Path: nntp.farm.idt.net!news.idt.net!newsxfer.visi.net!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.154.70.8!news.webspan.net!ix.netcom.com!wb8foz From: wb8foz@netcom.com (David Lesher) Subject: Greek Govt closes down Cult again.... Message-ID: Summary: oops there goes another rubber tree plant Keywords: Co$ Cult Reply-To: wb8foz@netcom.com (David Lesher) Organization: NRK Clinic for habitual NetNews Abusers - Beltway Annex X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 CURRENT #9 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 00:56:46 GMT Lines: 31 Sender: wb8foz@netcom5.netcom.com Excerped from: Message-ID: ATHENS, Dec 24 (AFP) - A court of appeal in Greece has upheld a decision to close the Greek branch of the Church of Scientology, and accused it of "brain-washing" members, a legal source said Wednesday. {} Greek Co$ branch known as the KEPHE, (i.e "centre for applied philosphy") found guilty of proselytism, submitting its members to brain-washing and extorting money from them.. Boy, THAT's a shocker! Can you see Miscarriage even washing out his shorts, much less someone's brains? That sounds like manual labor.... The verdict affirmed a Jan. decision.... Greek Orthodox Church described the KEPHE ..."heresies" The prosecution was brought by Athens' most senior politician. A petition demanding the group be outlawed attracted 4,000 signatures, including parents of KEPHE members. But where are the MILLION of Marcab signatures? -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 Path: nntp.farm.idt.net!news.idt.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!peerfeed.ncal.verio.net!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!zdc!szdc!super.zippo.com!newsp.zippo.com!rnewman From: rnewman@thecia.net (Ron Newman) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Greek Govt closes down Cult again.... Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 21:26:06 -0500 Organization: Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com] Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-361.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 In article , wb8foz@netcom.com (David Lesher) wrote: > Excerped from: > Message-ID: > > ATHENS, Dec 24 (AFP) - A court of appeal in Greece has upheld a > decision to close the Greek branch of the Church of Scientology, and > accused it of "brain-washing" members, a legal source said > Wednesday. > {} Greek Co$ branch known as the KEPHE, (i.e "centre for > applied philosphy") found guilty of proselytism, submitting its > members to brain-washing and extorting money from them.. Is "proselytism" illegal in Greece? -- Ron Newman rnewman@thecia.net http://www2.thecia.net/users/rnewman/ Path: nntp.farm.idt.net!news.idt.net!streamer1.cleveland.iagnet.net!iagnet.net!tor-nx1.netcom.ca!news2.interlog.com!news.interlog.com!elaine.drink.com!not-for-mail From: gorilla@elaine.drink.com (Alan Barclay) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Greek Govt closes down Cult again.... Date: 25 Dec 1997 03:54:53 GMT Organization: Gorilla & Hamster Zoo of Toronto Lines: 11 Message-ID: <883022568.824576@elaine.drink.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: elaine.drink.com Cache-Post-Path: elaine.drink.com!gorilla@localhost In article , Ron Newman wrote: >In article , wb8foz@netcom.com (David Lesher) >wrote: >> {} Greek Co$ branch known as the KEPHE, (i.e "centre for >> applied philosphy") found guilty of proselytism, submitting its >> members to brain-washing and extorting money from them.. > >Is "proselytism" illegal in Greece? As I understand the case, they violated the terms of being non-profit. Path: nntp.farm.idt.net!news.idt.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!connemara.xlink.net!unlisys!news.snafu.de!not-for-mail From: tilman@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Greek Govt closes down Cult again.... Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 10:47:53 GMT Organization: Parallax Corp. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <34a72788.3860667@news.snafu.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: n165-148.berlin.snafu.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 In , rnewman@thecia.net (Ron Newman) wrote: >Is "proselytism" illegal in Greece? Probably if you do not register your organisation as a religion. Scientology had claimed to be non-religious in Greece. -- Tilman Hausherr [KoX, SP4] tilman@berlin.snafu.de http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/#cos Resistance is futile. You will be enturbulated. Xenu always prevails. Find broken links on your web site: http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/xenulink.html Annoy scientology by buying books: http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/bookstore.html Path: nntp.farm.idt.net!news.idt.net!netnews.com!ix.netcom.com!news From: fast@anywhere.usa (Fast) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Greek Govt closes down Cult again.... Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 04:05:12 GMT Organization: NOYB Lines: 50 Message-ID: <34a419e8.23996787@nntp.news.netcom.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.109.2.31 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Dec 25 9:58:15 PM CST 1997 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/16.451 On Wed, 24 Dec 1997 21:26:06 -0500, rnewman@thecia.net (Ron Newman) wrote: >In article , wb8foz@netcom.com (David Lesher) >wrote: > >> Excerped from: >> Message-ID: >> >> ATHENS, Dec 24 (AFP) - A court of appeal in Greece has upheld a >> decision to close the Greek branch of the Church of Scientology, and >> accused it of "brain-washing" members, a legal source said >> Wednesday. >> {} Greek Co$ branch known as the KEPHE, (i.e "centre for >> applied philosphy") found guilty of proselytism, submitting its >> members to brain-washing and extorting money from them.. > >Is "proselytism" illegal in Greece? According to the story "The Colonels and the Commodore", Greece has very strict laws about religion. First of all, the Greek Orthodox (Catholic) Church is the State Religion. It has constitutionally enshrined primacy over all other religions in the country. Secondly, they have strict laws about blasphemy, proselytizing, and even how an organization that wants to call themselves a religion must operate. You may recall that $cientology (the "religion") was banned in Greece many years ago. This KEPHE name was their not-so-subtle way of reentering the country, but this time NOT as a religion, in order to avoid the ban and the strict laws regulating religions there. In an interesting and forceful demonstration of the Greek attitudes on the cult of $ignitallaway, they simply took the position that KEPHE was the banned religion but under a new name, still practicing the "brain-washing" and extortion they are so famous for. I don't really agree with the concept of a State Religion or the laws that allow prominent politicians to prosecute others in court simply for their religious beliefs, but extortion and fraud are illegal most places, and I am impressed with the Greeks for standing up to the cult so firmly and over an extended period of time. - Fast