(;GM[1]FF[4]AP[glGo:1.4]ST[1]

SZ[19]KM[8]
PW[Feng Yun]WR[9p]PB[Xuefen Lin]BR[1p]RE[W+R]TM[600]DT[2006-10-24]PC[IGS-PandaNet]CP[Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2006]

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;W[jp]C[Povo [ 5k+\]: Hello.
MagicMagor [ 6k?\]: hi
NPcomplete [22k?\]: Hi]
;B[kp]
;W[jo]
;B[ko]C[chiiko [ 7k \]: povo's hello is scriptd, don't bother]
;W[kn]
;B[mo]C[Povo [ 5k+\]: Hello.
Soma [20k+\]: :D
NPcomplete [22k?\]: outch...
MagicMagor [ 6k?\]: oO
ejnyc [20k \]: w P3?]
;W[hh]C[Splinter [ 9k \]: is g17 the correct response to g15?]
;B[jn]C[ejnyc [20k \]: g17 seemed slow
malf [ 4k \]: absolutely
fractic [11k \]: it prevents a white play at the same point
chiiko [ 7k \]: but doesn't prevent white playing another spot
malf [ 4k \]: ignoring g15 is bad
Splinter [ 9k \]: h17 bad response?
fractic [11k \]: it leaves more aji]
;W[kq]
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;B[in]
;W[io]
;B[hn]C[b4k4 [14k \]: what now?
Splinter [ 9k \]: g5 seems necessary
b4k4 [14k \]: maybe not
Povo [ 5k \]: Hello.
Splinter [ 9k \]: yeah youre probably right
b4k4 [14k \]: w couyld grab sumthing
b4k4 [14k \]: but
b4k4 [14k \]: i dunno
b4k4 [14k \]: i woudl for sure g5
b4k4 [14k \]: =P
b4k4 [14k \]: allot ofreading
Povo [ 5k \]: Hello.
fool [ 1k \]: why not g6?
ejnyc [20k \]: h4
NPcomplete [22k?\]: why didn't black play j4 when white played k7?
fool [ 1k \]: why are you afraid of h4?
chiiko [ 7k \]: h4 is nothing
ejnyc [20k \]: not, necessarily
Splinter [ 9k \]: h7 response to h4
MagicMagor [ 6k?\]: g6 looks good, w probably thinking about l7
Splinter [ 9k \]: if g6
fool [ 1k \]: if i were white - i would rather lose the h3 stones and capture the h6 ones]
;W[km]C[b4k4 [14k \]: l7
b4k4 [14k \]: sow is safe
fool [ 1k \]: i believe w would rather die than be so submissive to play g5
b4k4 [14k \]: over tehre
b4k4 [14k \]: yeah
Splinter [ 9k \]: is this really a 9p vs 6d game?
fractic [11k \]: 9p vs 1p actually
malf [ 4k \]: both pro
b4k4 [14k \]: ofcourse it is
chiiko [ 7k \]: is nomad also a pro?
fractic [11k \]: i think not but i'm not sure
Standfast [15k?\]: he isn't]
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;W[pl]C[moonpth [14k+\]: won by a little]
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;W[pk]C[BunnyBen [ 9k?\]: does anyone know when the next meijin game is
BunnyBen [ 9k?\]: ?]
;B[oj]C[Splinter [ 9k \]: nov 2, japan time, nov 1 us time
BunnyBen [ 9k?\]: thank you]
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;W[qi]C[Yonex [17k \]: one long move....]
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;B[jc]C[NotMiami [ 3k?\]: will white settle for gote lfie?
NotMiami [ 3k?\]: never!
Yonex [17k \]: sorry but what does gote mean again?
butanuki [ 1k \]: not sente
fractic [11k \]: gote is the opposite of sente
Yonex [17k \]: o
Yonex [17k \]: k ty
butanuki [ 1k \]: sen=first
NotMiami [ 3k?\]: it means a move your opponent can ignore
butanuki [ 1k \]: go=last
butanuki [ 1k \]: te = hand
NotMiami [ 3k?\]: a move which requires no response
Yonex [17k \]: k
Yonex [17k \]: but i thought thats tenuki
fractic [11k \]: no that is to play elsewhere instead of responding locally
malf [ 4k \]: IGS has a translation function for most Go terms, enter trans gote from the terminal command line
butanuki [ 1k \]: after gote the opponent plays tenuki :-)
Cloud [ 2k?\]: tenkui is when someonte dont respond
NotMiami [ 3k?\]: tenuki is you ignoreing the move
fractic [11k \]: basically you're oponent can tenuki after a gote play
NotMiami [ 3k?\]: gote describes the move its self
Yonex [17k \]: oo ok
butanuki [ 1k \]: but white is in a tight spot here
Cloud [ 2k?\]: thx malf im ago figure our reverse sente
velobici [11k?\]: not can but rather should tenuki after a gote play
malf [ 4k \]: :)
butanuki [ 1k \]: damn... I am in a tight spot
waterfall [ 3k+\]: imho, black has the problem of connecting his worm here
fractic [11k \]: R10 and R13 are miai for life for white right?
waterfall [ 3k+\]: and even if - the white region is very big
Ivanhoe [ 3k \]: no b is connected
velobici [11k?\]: White r10 settles the white group as does r13,  r13 more profitable
NotMiami [ 3k?\]: i've been writing a book, Get Strong at Gote Life
Shpongle [18k \]: can't white separate blacks middle group with M15, L15
fractic [11k \]: black won't save his single stone
waterfall [ 3k+\]: M15 - N14 and white has to protect against O13
waterfall [ 3k+\]: but the whole thing looks complicated
waterfall [ 3k+\]: besides - that is white's main problem there]
;W[jd]C[Yonex [17k \]: Oo]
;B[lc]
;W[ld]
;B[kb]
;W[ke]
;B[le]
;W[kc]C[fractic [11k \]: white must be sure he can win this ko
Synthetic [22k?\]: Ooooh, time for a ko fight.
Yonex [17k \]: he has to be
velobici [11k?\]: white is fine
Yonex [17k \]: he had so much time to think thru it
velobici [11k?\]: SHE had so much time
Yonex [17k \]: o my baad
Yonex [17k \]: i still cant believe shes a women Oo
fractic [11k \]: why is that hard to believe?
Synthetic [22k?\]: What's hard to believe about it? =P
Yonex [17k \]: can u imagine a women sitting on a chair playing pand-igs?]
;B[mm]
;W[lb]
;B[ml]C[waterfall [ 3k+\]: it was easier for white]
;W[ma]C[NotMiami [ 3k?\]: very rare is why its hard to believe
Yonex [17k \]: i thought u would fite for it -_-
velobici [11k?\]: it is unusual...there are not that many female pros, and there are very few very strong (pro speaking) femail pros
waterfall [ 3k+\]: not just a picnic ko - but much less to loose
fractic [11k \]: hehe i know a few women playing online games
malf [ 4k \]: i have no  problem, many of the 7d+ and up are women
fractic [11k \]: not go in specific though
malf [ 4k \]: all the RICOH players play here]
;B[ob]C[malf [ 4k \]: 90% of all pros in Japan play here]
;W[re]C[Yonex [17k \]: hmmm
fractic [11k \]: 90% of the japanese pros play on IGS? I doubt that
NotMiami [ 3k?\]: and in japan this server costs 20 bucks a month
Yonex [17k \]: yea
Yonex [17k \]: there the only country that has to pay to paly
malf [ 4k \]: don't doubt it :)
fractic [11k \]: why would they play on IGS?
malf [ 4k \]: why not?
bbutcher [ BC \]: IGS is free for everybody
fractic [11k \]: no competition?
Yonex [17k \]: wouldnt s13 work]
;B[rd]C[Cloud [ 2k?\]: no]
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;W[qb]C[Yonex [17k \]: good game?
bbutcher [ BC \]: it is
corgo [ 2d+\]: b just lost to the PRO touch ...:)
Onisuka [ 2k?\]: black is in trouble now
fractic [11k \]: b is a pro too
NotMiami [ 3k?\]: nope, in japan u have to pay
Cheyenne [22k?\]: that 2 w stones on UL hurted]
;B[rb]C[NotMiami [ 3k?\]: but they might pay 6 bucks for one night at an igo salaon
chiiko [ 7k \]: would a pro tenuki if his group was in such danger]
;W[sb]
;B[ra]C[waterfall [ 3k+\]: s13 - T13 -T14 - R14 atari and bata-bata
chiiko [ 7k \]: he must have read it out]
;W[qa]C[corgo [ 2d+\]: i dunno - been in B position before and lost ...
Yonex [17k \]: wait
Yonex [17k \]: could black live there?
Yonex [17k \]: t7 and s18?
Ivanhoe [ 3k \]: is b r17 possible, w t19, b s18
waterfall [ 3k+\]: no - that was nonsense, sorry
chiiko [ 7k \]: well yes, because if he tenukies a dying group then he is no pro]
;B[qc]
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;W[la]C[Ivanhoe [ 3k \]: yes
Ivanhoe [ 3k \]: maybe q19
Onisuka [ 2k?\]: another co
eanders [ BC \]: q19 gives ko.
Yonex [17k \]: it seems so]
;B[pa]C[Bokudo [15k?\]: q19 would be a good move for both I think
Bokudo [15k?\]: oh
Ivanhoe [ 3k \]: no ko
waterfall [ 3k+\]: i cannot beat S13 now
Ivanhoe [ 3k \]: it's double ko
Bokudo [15k?\]: yea]
;W[se]
;B[pb]C[Ivanhoe [ 3k \]: no problem for b
leoricNR [ 1d?\]: seki
fractic [11k \]: seki
Yonex [17k \]: awww]
;W[bl]C[waterfall [ 3k+\]: the black group below could get in problems with 2eyes - but white would have too few libs]
;B[jb]C[fractic [11k \]: still seki in sente for white is pretty good
Yonex [17k \]: it was still bad of black do tenuki that
Ivanhoe [ 3k \]: yeah, best result for w]
;W[or]C[Onisuka [ 2k?\]: this game is end
Onisuka [ 2k?\]: white ahead too much
Ivanhoe [ 3k \]: yes w wins big
Onisuka [ 2k?\]: he got seki and sente
Onisuka [ 2k?\]: that too much
Ivanhoe [ 3k \]: what happens if b p2 instead of k18 ?
chiiko [ 7k \]: unless black cam do some magic in the center
tuzi [ 6d?\]: b played too bad]
;B[fm]C[fractic [11k \]: white's centre looks solid enough
waterfall [ 3k+\]: Cloud: how would S13 have been beaten ?
Bokudo [15k?\]: F8 here for white
Bokudo [15k?\]: right?
leoricNR [ 1d?\]: I'm thinking G7
chiiko [ 7k \]: final throe
waterfall [ 3k+\]: white has a lot of choices here - can choose the safest
waterfall [ 3k+\]: that attack is chanceless
waterfall [ 3k+\]: any bet
fractic [11k \]: after T13-T14-S14-T12-R14-T13-T15-T11 white has sente and black groups looks eyeless not sure if he can kill though
waterfall [ 3k+\]: sorry again - white has only 2 choices
Povo [ 5k \]: Hi
waterfall [ 3k+\]: no - 3
waterfall [ 3k+\]: G7 would protect against J8
Ivanhoe [ 3k \]: is it over now ?
leoricNR [ 1d?\]: the fat lady still hasn't sung
Synthetic [22k?\]: But she's certainly warming up.
chiiko [ 7k \]: is fengyun fat?
leoricNR [ 1d?\]: I doubt it
malf [ 4k \]: wtf is f7? this is a simple ladder]
;W[el]
;B[hp]
;W[ip]C[Bokudo [15k?\]: why did white not place at f(
Bokudo [15k?\]: *f8?
malf [ 4k \]: dunno
Ivanhoe [ 3k \]: that is simpler
Bokudo [15k?\]: it seems that it would have worked right?
skeptical [ 2d+\]: saving d6
chiiko [ 7k \]: white wants some excitement
Cheyenne [22k?\]: lol chiiko
malf [ 4k \]: good point, skeptical
skeptical [ 2d+\]: thanks malf :-)
leoricNR [ 1d?\]: I'm positive its been thoroughly read
leoricNR [ 1d?\]: or however thats spelled
malf [ 4k \]: :)
chiiko [ 7k \]: like that]
;B[il]
;W[jl]C[waterfall [ 3k+\]: of course - even ama dans do not have useless 3mins of thought]
;B[hl]C[fractic [11k \]: hmm i might have found the refutation to S13
leoricNR [ 1d?\]: its not useless, just spent on consuming food]
;W[gm]
;B[jk]C[Ivanhoe [ 3k \]: re there many pros at NAMT ?]
;W[ik]C[chiiko [ 7k \]: spent clicking the mouse
fractic [11k \]: T14 forces T13 then R14-T12 -S14-T12 adn w S17 and i can't find a way for black to avoid a seki or white living]
;B[gj]
;W[gi]
;B[gk]
;W[hm]
;B[im]
;W[fj]C[skeptical [ 2d+\]: this looks pretty hopeless to me
Black resigns.
white time: 70:53
black time: 72:14])
