(;GM[1]FF[4]AP[glGo:1.4]ST[1]

SZ[19]KM[8]
PW[Thomas Hsiang]WR[7d]PB[Mingjiu Jiang]BR[7p]RE[B+R]TM[600]DT[2006-10-15]PC[IGS-PandaNet]CP[Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2006]

;B[pd]
;W[dd]
;B[qp]
;W[dq]
;B[do]
;W[co]
;B[cn]
;W[cp]
;B[fc]
;W[cf]
;B[dm]
;W[fq]
;B[ci]
;W[db]
;B[pj]
;W[oq]
;B[po]
;W[nc]
;B[lc]
;W[ne]
;B[pf]
;W[kd]C[yalien [ 6d?\]: is cornel part of tournament?]
;B[ld]C[calsun [ 4d \]: no]
;W[le]
;B[ke]
;W[kc]C[Spartan101 [ 5k?\]: are these games one after another or all together?]
;B[kb]C[airsjon [ 2d?\]: once the players arrive. they will start playing
airsjon [ 2d?\]: the other two games are scheduled to start right now]
;W[je]
;B[kf]
;W[lf]C[sebai [22k?\]: why doesn't he play 16k on the star
sebai [22k?\]: ?]
;B[ic]C[MagicMagor [ 6k?\]: would only help white to get an eye
sebai [22k?\]: oh yes I see thanks]
;W[jd]C[jigongche [ 6d?\]: hi]
;B[jc]C[Cloud [ BC \]: Hi
Cloud [ BC \]: lol
jigongche [ 6d?\]: i'm china
jigongche [ 6d?\]: you is ?
Cloud [ BC \]: ic
Cloud [ BC \]: Canada
jigongche [ 6d?\]: what?
Cloud [ BC \]: im from Canada
jigongche [ 6d?\]: oh
jigongche [ 6d?\]: Very happy see you!
sebai [22k?\]: what do you think white is going to do
sebai [22k?\]: ?]
;W[hd]
;B[hc]
;W[gd]
;B[gc]C[DragonYong [ 3k \]: woooooo
DragonYong [ 3k \]: go ming ju!!]
;W[kg]
;B[jf]
;W[hf]
;B[if]
;W[ie]
;B[jh]
;W[hh]C[chiiko [ 7k \]: uh.. a pro taking black, with 7.5 komi too??
jigongche [ 6d?\]: The white has already acquired the game victory!
DragonYong [ 3k \]: i say it's too early
Go1031 [13k \]: GO NOMAD!!!!!!
Go1031 [13k \]: woor
Go1031 [13k \]: woot*
Go1031 [13k \]: non-pros all the way!!!
sebai [22k?\]: why do you think white has won already?
MagicMagor [ 6k?\]: i would favor black in this position..]
;B[ih]
;W[hi]
;B[lh]C[sebai [22k?\]: yeah me too
Cloud [ BC \]: hmm
jigongche [ 6d?\]: Because the situation dialogue color is beneficial
Go1031 [13k \]: what?
Cloud [ BC \]: b has something to attack
DragonYong [ 3k \]: i just support mingju because he teaches at our go club =\]
Go1031 [13k \]: so
Cloud [ BC \]: i like white
jigongche [ 6d?\]: mingjiu=7p VS 7d
Go1031 [13k \]: other games are 12 and 62
Go1031 [13k \]: :  )]
;W[kh]
;B[ki]
;W[lg]
;B[jj]
;W[li]C[jigongche [ 6d?\]: @_@
jigongche [ 6d?\]: ^_^
davew [ 4d \]: hi everybody...is this NAMT or Ing or what? I've forgotten
Go1031 [13k \]: yes
Cloud [ BC \]: NAMT?
Cloud [ BC \]: thats not a question
Cloud [ BC \]: thats wat i think it is lol]
;B[mh]
;W[lj]C[zephi [ 6k \]: playin pretty fast, huh]
;B[hg]
;W[gg]
;B[ig]C[Go1031 [13k \]: no
Go1031 [13k \]: yes
chiiko [ 7k \]: cheetah is the highest ranked observer]
;W[ff]C[kibarosman [ 8k \]: is this a live game?
Battousai [ 9k?\]: yes
kibarosman [ 8k \]: which tournament?
Go1031 [13k \]: yes
Go1031 [13k \]: NAMT
sebai [22k?\]: what do you mean other games
kibarosman [ 8k \]: thx
Battousai [ 9k?\]: I'd play P18
zephi [ 6k \]: the battousai I knew was 3d O.o
Battousai [ 9k?\]: ?
Battousai [ 9k?\]: well I'm probably not the battousai you know then
zephi [ 6k \]: his blade was sharper
Battousai [ 9k?\]: lol
Battousai [ 9k?\]: but seriously, P18 puts presure on that group
covay [ 8k?\]: DragonYong: which club does Mingjiu teach at?
DragonYong [ 3k \]: berk and sf
zephi [ 6k \]: doesn't she offer online lessons?
Go1031 [13k \]: lucky people
sxc [ 6k \]: N13
covay [ 8k?\]: what about Palo Altos
Go1031 [13k \]: i dont even havea go clube near me
DragonYong [ 3k \]: not to sure about that
Battousai [ 9k?\]: N13 seems soft
DragonYong [ 3k \]: i know he reviews games at other places
DragonYong [ 3k \]: but i know sf and berk he does for sure
zephi [ 6k \]: n13 seems about as useful as a knife in a pudding factory
MagicMagor [ 6k?\]: hm.. maybe O13?
covay [ 8k?\]: he teachs twice a week at Palo Altos]
;B[mi]C[Battousai [ 9k?\]: hmmmm good move
Battousai [ 9k?\]: preparing the attack
Battousai [ 9k?\]: and keeping pressure
zephi [ 6k \]: keep the pressure on w without ruining aji, I suppose
Battousai [ 9k?\]: well that black group was the biggest weak point
Battousai [ 9k?\]: so its natural he'd like to enforce it
DragonYong [ 3k \]: i think o12 would've hurt it black didn't play n11]
;W[ng]C[DragonYong [ 3k \]: but i'm only a 3k what would i know =\]
MagicMagor [ 6k?\]: hehe
Battousai [ 9k?\]: I'm 9 kyu ~_~]
;B[mj]C[MagicMagor [ 6k?\]: more than i know =)]
;W[lk]
;B[jl]C[TimeForUs [ 3k?\]: k9]
;W[lm]
;B[hk]
;W[gk]
;B[gl]
;W[ik]C[DragonYong [ 3k \]: an exciting move =\]
Battousai [ 9k?\]: indeed
kibarosman [ 8k \]: w wants to fight
sxc [ 6k \]: Ah  k9 ... the dog move :-)
Battousai [ 9k?\]: J10 counters it though, i think
Battousai [ 9k?\]: its J9 sxc
Battousai [ 9k?\]: =p]
;B[ij]C[davew [ 4d \]: J10]
;W[hj]
;B[hl]C[Battousai [ 9k?\]: wee~
expansion [ 1d+\]: escape
DragonYong [ 3k \]: k9?
asmodee [ 3d \]: L10
kibarosman [ 8k \]: what was w's purpose here, preparing to attack C11?
sxc [ 6k \]: k9 == canine ... geddit?
Mouse [ 4d \]: w connects in sente?
chiiko [ 7k \]: lol sxc 8)
Go1031 [13k \]: he doesn't have to respond
davew [ 4d \]: how can w connect
Go1031 [13k \]: J11
kibarosman [ 8k \]: connect which groups?
Mouse [ 4d \]: j10
zephi [ 6k \]: though shortage of libs?
Go1031 [13k \]: ic
davew [ 4d \]: refresh screen, Mouse
sxc [ 6k \]: chiiko ... surely you mean "log" :-)]
;W[kj]C[sxc [ 6k \]: (log == lots of groans)
TimeForUs [ 3k?\]: ah, pro resign
zephi [ 6k \]: it seems to work from where I sit
Go1031 [13k \]: no i dont see]
;B[il]C[Go1031 [13k \]: c]
;W[ji]
;B[ii]C[Go1031 [13k \]: i told you...
zephi [ 6k \]: the whole double atari thing]
;W[pg]
;B[qg]
;W[of]C[Go1031 [13k \]: if black has a chance to G10
zephi [ 6k \]: g10 not important just now
Go1031 [13k \]: ya
Go1031 [13k \]: i know
Go1031 [13k \]: so (have a chance*)
Go1031 [13k \]: : (
zephi [ 6k \]: probably b wants to do somethin on bottom before even worrying about g10
Go1031 [13k \]: we know
zephi [ 6k \]: then why on earth mention it?
sxc [ 6k \]: be gentle zephi :-)
DragonYong [ 3k \]: it's just insight =\]
Go1031 [13k \]: : (
Go1031 [13k \]: sob*
Go1031 [13k \]: abuse
zephi [ 6k \]: ^^
sxc [ 6k \]: now look what you've done zephi ... you big MEANIE
zephi [ 6k \]: nownow, children. mommy didn't mean to use a big voice]
;B[qf]C[Go1031 [13k \]: what what? did you say something i was in the bathroom crying :(]
;W[pi]C[Go1031 [13k \]: !!!
RedSox [ 1k \]: is this a NAMT game?
Go1031 [13k \]: yes
RedSox [ 1k \]: thx
Gabriolo [14k \]: what does NAMT mean?
Go1031 [13k \]: North American Masters Tournament
zephi [ 6k \]: w feels like slow going
Gabriolo [14k \]: wow! a REAL tournament! Thx:)]
;B[oj]C[hookworm2 [ 3k \]: N18
Gabriolo [14k \]: what does n18 would be for?
zephi [ 6k \]: too small...
hookworm2 [ 3k \]: kill black]
;W[oi]C[zephi [ 6k \]: w can't kill b very easily
zephi [ 6k \]: w needs at least 2 moves before b  in any danger
Gabriolo [14k \]: and what if black answers e18?
chiiko [ 7k \]: then white connects everything and black resigns
hookworm2 [ 3k \]: n18, then G19
zephi [ 6k \]: only thing stopping b from cutting w is the m18 cutting point, so w won't force b to connect right away]
;B[qi]C[zephi [ 6k \]: and b won't force the issue while there's bigger stuff]
;W[qj]C[sxc [ 6k \]: I think something like N4 would be good for either player once the current brawl is over]
;B[qh]C[MagicMagor [ 6k?\]: hm.. more somethink like k4 for black..
chiiko [ 7k \]: current brawl is a lot about the bottom, so not really
hillgo [ 3d+\]: becoz of L11, w is not safe yet. and w doesn't want to give b whole right side
sxc [ 6k \]: If W answers N4 with N3 then L11
jhcpark [ 2d \]: seems w helped b here
zephi [ 6k \]: shape probalems]
;W[pl]C[zephi [ 6k \]: that seems light way to handle
expansion [ 1d+\]: i hope this turns into big ko]
;B[qk]
;W[ql]C[Gabriolo [14k \]: why not wO10?]
;B[nk]C[zephi [ 6k \]: cause b would only connect
sxc [ 6k \]: W O10, O11, O9, P12
Gabriolo [14k \]: are you sure (before b O9, obvious)?
zephi [ 6k \]: b is connected the moment he plays o11 in that senario
DragonYong [ 3k \]: hmmr i think o9 gives white a harder time connecting his two stones up]
;W[rj]C[jhcpark [ 2d \]: w big group too weak to play strong here]
;B[rk]
;W[nl]
;B[np]C[sxc [ 6k \]: hehehe]
;W[pk]C[sebai [22k?\]: when will the other games of this tournament be?
chiiko [ 7k \]: right now sebai
chiiko [ 7k \]: i believe someone said 12 and 62 are also tournament games
Gabriolo [14k \]: I see only s8 or s11 for black.. are there any other moves?
Grunt [ 6d+\]: if black plays s8, shouldnt he get sente for O3?]
;B[rl]
;W[qn]
;B[nq]C[jhcpark [ 2d \]: w bad in this sequence
Grunt [ 6d+\]: now its over, white has no territory and nothing to attack
Gabriolo [14k \]: why white didn't play s7? washn't sente for him?
Grunt [ 6d+\]: if he plays s7, he still needs to connect at R6
Grunt [ 6d+\]: or he'll be cut
Gabriolo [14k \]: :)
davew [ 4d \]: I can see some w territory
kibarosman [ 8k \]: where?
Grunt [ 6d+\]: all i see are two small corners]
;W[op]
;B[oo]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: its almost over, no territory, nothing to attack]
;W[nr]
;B[mr]
;W[pr]
;B[ns]
;W[or]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: and black gets Q18 as sente too, almost over...
kibarosman [ 8k \]: N5 or continue corner attack?
sxc [ 6k \]: the fat lady is doing her vocal warmups :-)
MagicMagor [ 6k?\]: thats the question..
Gabriolo [14k \]: is white aiming at o5 or n3?
Grunt [ 6d+\]: im sorry, im being a little biased towards mingjiu :)]
;B[nm]C[TimeForUs [ 3k?\]: resign?
DragonYong [ 3k \]: yay another mingju fan =\]
TimeForUs [ 3k?\]: n3]
;W[qq]C[TimeForUs [ 3k?\]: same
TimeForUs [ 3k?\]: but n3 better]
;B[ml]
;W[rp]
;B[md]
;W[pc]
;B[qc]
;W[pb]
;B[od]
;W[nd]C[TimeForUs [ 3k?\]: p8]
;B[mb]
;W[nb]
;B[qb]
;W[ll]
;B[ol]C[Mouse [ 4d \]: tough game for w
Grunt [ 6d+\]: game over]
;W[ma]C[TimeForUs [ 3k?\]: do you mean w is fighting under bad situation?]
;B[eb]
;W[ec]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: doesnt matter, white has no territory even if he lives]
;B[fa]
;W[lb]
;B[la]
;W[na]C[Laurent [22k \]: it would be a miracle if he lived no ?]
;B[fd]
;W[dg]
;B[pa]C[kibarosman [ 8k \]: why is b trying to kill?
kibarosman [ 8k \]: why not just play defensive, he's so far ahead
Grunt [ 6d+\]: lol, mingjiu's style
calsun [ 4d \]: lol
kibarosman [ 8k \]: so winning is not enough, he wants to crush him? :)
Grunt [ 6d+\]: calvin agrees :)
calsun [ 4d \]: hehe
Grunt [ 6d+\]: yes, even if hes ahead, his goal is to crush the other guy
TimeForUs [ 3k?\]: if win by defensive, nobody say you are great
TimeForUs [ 3k?\]: but if win by fight,things are diff
davew [ 4d \]: hey, these are ordinary moves, what's the big deal
Mouse [ 4d \]: yose + eye killing. good move :)
Grunt [ 6d+\]: with Q19 i think taking ko wouldve have been fine too
Grunt [ 6d+\]: but i think intention of Q19 is to kill whole thing]
;W[kn]C[davew [ 4d \]: right, q19 worth 4 pts in sente :)
kibarosman [ 8k \]: yep, w knows it, too, so he's already running :)]
;B[jo]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: yep, theres mingjiu for you
Mouse [ 4d \]: too tough to run with the ko
DragonYong [ 3k \]: lol white is getting pwned
kibarosman [ 8k \]: it's sure more fun to watch
davew [ 4d \]: perhaps if w lives, other pros will tease mingjiu]
;W[nn]C[zephi [ 6k \]: ^^]
;B[lp]C[Mouse [ 4d \]: over soon :)
zephi [ 6k \]: ok, w. show us whatcha got
Sierra01 [ 1d \]: nomad won fengyun 9p a year ago
TimeForUs [ 3k?\]: it was teaching game
kibarosman [ 8k \]: but seems like w got outplayed today from the start
davew [ 4d \]: did he take her home?
emmoclew [ 2k \]: n6
earth [ BC \]: dave u are a dirty man]
;W[on]C[davew [ 4d \]: no, just literal
TenshiSoul [15k+\]: interesting commentary]
;B[pn]C[tbird [ 3d \]: who take whom home?
zephi [ 6k \]: I thought fengyun married anywya
TimeForUs [ 3k?\]: p9
earth [ BC \]: it was a tournament game played on IGS
TimeForUs [ 3k?\]: fy is single
kibarosman [ 8k \]: she lives on the east coast, right?
zephi [ 6k \]: I don't think p9 helps here
kibarosman [ 8k \]: new york, new jersey?
TimeForUs [ 3k?\]: singlly
davew [ 4d \]: even though lost, I liked nomad's style today]
;W[mo]
;B[no]C[TimeForUs [ 3k?\]: n6]
;W[ok]
;B[nj]
;W[om]
;B[nl]
;W[mn]
;B[pm]
;W[lo]
;B[ko]
;W[mm]
;B[ki]
;W[qd]
;B[rd]
;W[ji]
;B[ep]C[zephi [ 6k \]: just resign, I think
kibarosman [ 8k \]: why b fight this ko?
kibarosman [ 8k \]: w still has only one eye, no?
zephi [ 6k \]: only because w hasn't resigned yet
zephi [ 6k \]: w can only have one eye
White resigns.
white time: 63:59
black time: 62:13])
