(;GM[1]FF[4]AP[glGo:1.4]ST[1]

SZ[19]KM[8]
PW[Zhaonain Chen]WR[8d]PB[Mingjiu Jiang]BR[7p]RE[W+13]TM[600]DT[2006-11-05]PC[IGS-PandaNet]CP[Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2006]CA[UTF-8]

;B[pd]C[igoShusaku [ 1d?\]: ele nåÐ aceitou jogar contra shodan
igoShusaku [ 1d?\]: AFF
HimeSama [22k?\]: ?
HimeSama [22k?\]: mas vc pediu pra jogar com ele?
igoShusaku [ 1d?\]: s? mandei a parada pra ele aceitar
oldwolf [15k?\]: wow, 6d take b]
;W[dd]
;B[qp]
;W[dq]
;B[do]
;W[co]
;B[cn]
;W[cp]
;B[fc]C[Nattyice [ 3k?\]: so this is live game?
xedover: yes -- North American Masters Tournament
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: sweet
xedover: http://www.seattlegocenter.org/namt/]
;W[hc]C[Nattyice [ 3k?\]: i mean w]
;B[dm]
;W[fq]
;B[cf]
;W[df]
;B[dg]
;W[ef]C[olegm [11k \]: F16 more conventional?
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: in place of d14 u mean?
olegm [11k \]: yes
oldwolf [15k?\]: resign?]
;B[cd]C[ulibecker [ 6k+\]: Better to lean against the stronger stone to make the weak stone even weaker.]
;W[ce]
;B[be]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: some say just attack the weak stone directly]
;W[de]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: like jujo
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: because you make the weak stone weaker and you make the strong stone weaker
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: vs making the strong stone stronger and the weak stone weaker]
;B[bg]
;W[cc]
;B[bd]C[olegm [11k \]: too bad nomad's not here :)]
;W[ec]
;B[eg]C[Uberdude [ 2k?\]: f16 is more common in pro game search
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: but w not a pro]
;W[gf]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: b p3?
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: or o3]
;B[gg]C[olegm [11k \]: i dont like this for b
olegm [11k \]: i mean w]
;W[hf]C[Uberdude [ 2k?\]: b looks ahead already...
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: yup left side looking more and more like territory heh
ulibecker [ 6k+\]: True.
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: remember that b has both corners on right
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: so w should be doing better on this side
Grunt [ 6d+\]: whitw forgot E13
Grunt [ 6d+\]: to finish the joseki
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: yeah but the f1 stone scared w to play e1
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: f17
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: e17
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: e13 didn't seem so sente
Grunt [ 6d+\]: E13 then E17 to fnish the joseki
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: if e17 at e13, then b cuts?
Grunt [ 6d+\]: its a joseki
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: if bf14 its bad for white heh
Grunt [ 6d+\]: black cuts and he gets corner in gote
Grunt [ 6d+\]: which is small at this point
Grunt [ 6d+\]: besides, white territory up top is not big, so white doesnt care if he loses corner
olegm [11k \]: thx Grunt
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: well dont ask me... ask white he the one that played e17
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: might be the losing move of the game
Grunt [ 6d+\]: i know that zchen probably forgot to play E13
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: so if  B16 E13 D17 E17 D18 E18 C18 then what for w?
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: it seems with f16 b can hassle white a bit]
;B[hg]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: E13, then extend with D12]
;W[ig]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: then white E17
Grunt [ 6d+\]: that is end of joseki]
;B[ff]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: black cant take the atari at D12]
;W[fe]
;B[fg]
;W[if]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: the three stones on bottom may become weak
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: ok, so d12 atari is best, not something like d10?
Grunt [ 6d+\]: D12 is best
Grunt [ 6d+\]: if white goes E13
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: be4 e3 h5
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: or b o3 p3 or something around there
lavalamp [10k+\]: why is a pro player taking black?]
;B[ih]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: its random draw
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: nigiri]
;W[jh]
;B[ji]C[lavalamp [10k+\]: hm...nigiri with 7.5 komi~]
;W[ii]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: is that the komi?]
;B[hh]C[lavalamp [10k+\]: i thought it was predetermined
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: i think its 6.5
lavalamp [10k+\]: it says 7.5
Grunt [ 6d+\]: komi is 7.5 in this tournament
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: wow
lavalamp [10k+\]: i c
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: that is the komi in china]
;W[kh]C[JLKS [ 2k \]: yup]
;B[ki]C[xedover: Ing rules -- komi is 8 points]
;W[li]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: this is not going well for white so far
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: yeah but the first move is worth the 14 pts plus the 1 stone that gets played
oldwolf [ 3k?\]: w losing]
;B[kk]C[JLKS [ 2k \]: i think it is too early to say]
;W[lj]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: these exchanges are bad for white so far]
;B[jk]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: i agree... black making territory and whites wall doesn't do much with b having stone at q16]
;W[nc]C[lavalamp [10k+\]: well, white can't attack the moyo on the left, but black got a shot
Grunt [ 6d+\]: right, white's moyo is limited by Q16
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: i say b plays simple with r14]
;B[nd]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: wow im way off lol]
;W[md]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: bp17]
;B[mc]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: hmm.... why b playing so agressively =/
Grunt [ 6d+\]: this joseki makes white overconcentrated]
;W[od]
;B[ne]
;W[pc]
;B[oe]
;W[oc]C[JLKS [ 2k \]: try your best 6d?
Grunt [ 6d+\]: zchen is a 7d+ with another account on IGS]
;B[qc]
;W[qd]
;B[pe]C[olegm [11k \]: B can puch it b/c white needs to protect his territory]
;W[qb]
;B[rc]
;W[rb]C[Uberdude [ 2k?\]: oh
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: i thought Q15 N18 M17 S17
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: i suppose top side bigger]
;B[rd]
;W[lc]C[Uberdude [ 2k?\]: m12 soon for b?
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: hmmm, w plays fast
JLKS [ 2k \]: try your best 7d+
setto [ BC \]: m16
Grunt [ 6d+\]: I thought white would go M16 too
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: w pretty young he's seventeen
setto [ BC \]: anyway there is an iea till now
Grunt [ 6d+\]: yeah white is almost 18 now
JLKS [ 2k \]: not surprising
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: ming jiu is forty or more?
setto [ BC \]: :( i feel old
Grunt [ 6d+\]: hehehe, mingjiu is 50
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: sort of close i guess hehe
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: born 57
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: is andy liu in this?
ulibecker [ 6k+\]: I am 52 but I missed to become a dan player ;-)
not4kids [ 3k \]: I think b did a poor job here
Grunt [ 6d+\]: no, andy liu is not in NAMT
olegm [11k \]: mingjiu is 5-1 and chen is 3-2 at this point
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: he would of did alright i would guess
setto [ BC \]: you can still register as one
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: if ming jiu wins there might be another game between him and jie li
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: cuz both of them might have a 6-1 recort
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: feny yun is not doing as well as i expected
Grunt [ 6d+\]: i'm rooting for mingjiu since he lives like next door
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: me too heh
FRED [ 3d+\]: I hope Jie Li in final
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: not really next door but he comes to my club and gives lessons
Grunt [ 6d+\]: palo alto? or berkeley?
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: lucky you!
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: berkeley
Grunt [ 6d+\]: i heard berkeley has a pretty big club too]
;B[lh]C[Uberdude [ 2k?\]: yay!
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: yeah but some nights are really slow heh
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: now b uses his o15 thickness
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: you know about the dota memorial tourny next weekend in sf
Grunt [ 6d+\]: yes im gonna go to that]
;W[nh]C[olegm [11k \]: i think w still can invade left but now i not a good time
Grunt [ 6d+\]: lol i know zchen's style, hes gonna try to kill black lol
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: very hard for w to invade left side]
;B[mh]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: isn't black like unconditionally alive
Grunt [ 6d+\]: yeah, but zchen somehow makes alive groups dead. Thats how he wins most of the time like the last two games he played again hyang and linxuefen
xedover: those were great games
olegm [11k \]: well it doesn't have 2 eyes yet :)]
;W[ni]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: his fuseki is really weak, but his fighting makes up this weakness plus more
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: it has 1 eye and plenty of room for second eye
Grunt [ 6d+\]: in his game vs linxue fen, he was losing like by 30 points, and then he killed a huge group and won by res.
olegm [11k \]: youth... always going for the kill :)
Grunt [ 6d+\]: andy liu does that too. heh
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: andy liu beat minj jiu recently?
olegm [11k \]: if b leads, may play safe?
Grunt [ 6d+\]: andy liu beat mingjiu, but by luck
Grunt [ 6d+\]: andy was losing really really badly
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: oh
Grunt [ 6d+\]: but mingjiu made a noob mistake
JLKS [ 2k \]: who has no mistake
Grunt [ 6d+\]: i mean mingjiu made a 1dan mistake
JLKS [ 2k \]: oic
setto [ BC \]: still cannot say that
setto [ BC \]: you know a mistake can turn to something else :)
olegm [11k \]: round r13?
setto [ BC \]: let's wait]
;B[lf]C[Uberdude [ 2k?\]: andy beating mj was us congress?
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: b wants to destory top territory heh
Grunt [ 6d+\]: yes that was congress
olegm [11k \]: and connect]
;W[qg]C[Nattyice [ 3k?\]: 30 sec byoyomi after this time?
Grunt [ 6d+\]: hahahaha
Grunt [ 6d+\]: hes going for the kill
ulibecker [ 6k+\]: Yes. You are right.]
;B[rf]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: lol, his friends know how he thinks
ulibecker [ 6k+\]: :-)
Grunt [ 6d+\]: even though its so impossible to kill black
Grunt [ 6d+\]: hes going for it anyways
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: w can capture the n12 stones through
olegm [11k \]: not unless b captures L12 stones :)
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: hard heh
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: maybe not so hard heh
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: after re reading it lol
olegm [11k \]: after b L15
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: no need for l15
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: there is another way
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: if w tryes to cut off n12 stones
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: tries*
olegm [11k \]: pretty hard to kill now :) and ming jiu will be extra careful
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: s14 is very patient]
;W[pl]C[setto [ BC \]: the best defence against attack is another atack :)
Grunt [ 6d+\]: and mingjiu's the type of person that slacks off completely when hes winning by so much
Grunt [ 6d+\]: especially if his opponent is weaker
Grunt [ 6d+\]: than him
Grunt [ 6d+\]: n12 isnt cuttable
olegm [11k \]: hmm what should b do?
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: it sorta is heh
Grunt [ 6d+\]: if white N15, black N14, white O14, black extends at N18 and white's corner will die
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: what the n17 stone will die before the corner dies
Grunt [ 6d+\]: no it wont
Grunt [ 6d+\]: after black N18
Grunt [ 6d+\]: white connects at M16
Grunt [ 6d+\]: black goes M18
olegm [11k \]: or after N15 N14, M15 then M16 push and K13 for b
Grunt [ 6d+\]: but white cant hane at L18
Grunt [ 6d+\]: white will have to go K17
Grunt [ 6d+\]: in which black goes O18 to kill corner]
;B[ml]C[setto [ BC \]: sure ?
Grunt [ 6d+\]: so cut is not an option for white
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: ok
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: well b could get out by killing teh k12 stones also if w tries to cut heh
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: but your way is better for b
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: but technically the n12 stones died in your way... just that white lost the corner in exchange hehe
Grunt [ 6d+\]: yeah
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: i just looked at z chen's game against lin xuefen, hilarious
Grunt [ 6d+\]: yeah, he was losing so much in the beginning
Grunt [ 6d+\]: but he killed a huge group
Grunt [ 6d+\]: and won
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: that corner mistake
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: sometimes the extend is sente
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: but not in that game?]
;W[qn]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: lol, i havent seen the extend before
Grunt [ 6d+\]: i thought he was doing some super tesuji
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: i've seen it somewhere and b's outside stones died before the corner
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: w made any points back?
Grunt [ 6d+\]: no, white is still behind]
;B[qj]C[olegm [11k \]: now we'll see how godd he is at killing :
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: i guess i meant has he closed the gap at all
Grunt [ 6d+\]: no
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: lol placement right int he middle of whites gp lol
olegm [11k \]: N11 aji
Grunt [ 6d+\]: white's right side is too thin to become territory
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: i guess he must kill then
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: doesn't look like mingjui taking it easy on chen
Grunt [ 6d+\]: very hard to attack black since black is thick everywhere on the outside
Grunt [ 6d+\]: lol, mingjiu wont take it easy on anyone
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: r10 is like a move that would make w want to resign without responding to it lol
Grunt [ 6d+\]: white doesnt have enough resources to fight here, way too thin compared to black's thickness everywhere
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: w needs to make two moves at once
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: hmmm but b might run out of time =/
Grunt [ 6d+\]: no they have 10 minutes for 25 moves after this
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: ohh really
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: ok then maybe not heh
Grunt [ 6d+\]: yeah
tael73 [22k?\]: what about w  P9?
Shudo [ 3d?\]: r11
setto [ BC \]: r8
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: if w p9 b will just s13 and rescue stone
tael73 [22k?\]: so  S13 first for w?
tael73 [22k?\]: then circa P9
tael73 [22k?\]: ?
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: the thing is b has 2 or 3 ways out
tael73 [22k?\]: ah ok
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: um, with n15 sequence grunt, you said w can't hane at L18; why not?]
;W[pj]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: because
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: w N15 N14 O14 N18 M16 M18 L18 L17 L16 K17 K18 and seems w wins
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: if w l18 b plays l17
Grunt [ 6d+\]: black will cut at L17
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: then L16
Grunt [ 6d+\]: black extends
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: then k17
Grunt [ 6d+\]: if white goes K18, black K16
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: then k18
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: so either l18 dies for teh m16 stones die
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: ah yes, i missed k16, i read j18
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: thanks
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: but....
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: b s12
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: caoturing 2 stones doesn't make a live group!
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: oh, but w corner dies so its ok
lavalamp [ 9k \]: still goin?
Grunt [ 6d+\]: white has to make profit here
Grunt [ 6d+\]: or white will lose for sure
lavalamp [ 9k \]: Grunt, can you comment on M12
setto [ BC \]: wow 110 observers :)
Grunt [ 6d+\]: the cut is good cuz it uses black's thickness
lavalamp [ 9k \]: cuz i  don't think M12's a good move i'd say black utilize the moyo more if he goes p11 or something
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: wow b used 7 mins on this move
igoShusaku [ 1d?\]: please...hayaGO
Grunt [ 6d+\]: if black goes P11]
;B[qk]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: it doesnt mean
Grunt [ 6d+\]: that the right side is black's territory
Grunt [ 6d+\]: since white does have a wall at M10, M11
lavalamp [ 9k \]: i c
tael73 [22k?\]: w kinda has to go  Q9 right?
lavalamp [ 9k \]: thx]
;W[pk]C[tael73 [22k?\]: b  S13?
Grunt [ 6d+\]: yeah mingjiu is saying that he won with R9 :)
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: can w kill if he gets s13 in sente?
Grunt [ 6d+\]: S13 isnt sente however]
;B[ql]C[Nattyice [ 3k?\]: might be :)
tael73 [22k?\]: w  Q7?
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: w can 67
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: r7
Grunt [ 6d+\]: yeah R7
setto [ BC \]: b will counter
lavalamp [ 9k \]: well, R7 then b S13
lavalamp [ 9k \]: maybe~
tael73 [22k?\]: r7 bertter than q7 uh?
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: yeah its slightly better from what i can read heh
tael73 [22k?\]: ok
lavalamp [ 9k \]: i'm eating peanut butter with beer~ gosh...makes me feel guilty
lavalamp [ 9k \]: i'm gonna get fat
setto [ BC \]: no worry it's good to be fat in the winter
setto [ BC \]: :)]
;W[pp]C[Nattyice [ 3k?\]: w trying to complicate things?]
;B[qm]C[setto [ BC \]: b is runnig out of time]
;W[pm]
;B[rn]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: heh b just taking territory hehe
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: what is w going to do with his wall?
Grunt [ 6d+\]: lol i dont know
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: kill f13 perhaps :p]
;W[ro]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: that would be amazing
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: considering a14 makes black have 2 eyes almost hehe
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: i'll see your amazing and raise you a miracle]
;B[qo]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: b should just r5 q6 s4]
;W[pn]
;B[rp]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: yay
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: q p3
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: maybe hehe]
;W[qi]
;B[so]C[olegm [11k+\]: b can coast now
oldwolf [15k?\]: time to resign
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: lol but i wanna see b kill w wall
olegm [11k+\]: Q5!
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: shouldn't w have s7 first?
setto [ BC \]: no point
Grunt [ 6d+\]: if white ends in gote here, its going to be painful
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: yup w need to get in a move around lk34
olegm [11k+\]: around N5 then?]
;W[gn]C[Nattyice [ 3k?\]: darkmage! darkmage!
Shudo [ 3d?\]: G8
olegm [11k+\]: he would probably beat some 5d here :)]
;B[ep]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: black is a 7d+ on IGS
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: lol b gonna try to kill g6
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: he's no pushover
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: who is BandWson?
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: u mean w is 7d+
Grunt [ 6d+\]: right haha
Grunt [ 6d+\]: its just that mingjiu makes everybody look bad
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: lol
Grunt [ 6d+\]: doesnt matter what rank you are
olegm [11k+\]: i meant chen would beat aif 5d were playing black :)
setto [ BC \]: processing date 113 observers currently of the match]
;W[eq]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: b g7 ??
olegm [11k+\]: maybe not kill G6... but scare it a little
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: u played chen before grunt?
Grunt [ 6d+\]: lol yes]
;B[gl]C[olegm [11k+\]: so what's his IGS name?]
;W[en]C[Uberdude [ 2k?\]: e7..
Grunt [ 6d+\]: sorry, i dont want to reveal that if he doesnt want to
olegm [11k+\]: maybe F7?]
;B[em]
;W[bn]
;B[bm]
;W[dn]
;B[cm]
;W[fm]
;B[fl]
;W[in]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: n4?]
;B[jp]C[Nattyice [ 3k?\]: w's second chance at a fight]
;W[lq]
;B[ko]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: o3]
;W[po]
;B[mp]C[olegm [11k+\]: M$?
olegm [11k+\]: M4?
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: m4 is bad
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: removes liberty and makes b stronger
setto [ BC \]: m5]
;W[nr]
;B[nk]C[setto [ BC \]: o10?
tael73 [22k?\]: P4? O4?]
;W[lp]
;B[lo]
;W[mo]
;B[no]
;W[mn]
;B[nq]C[setto [ BC \]: p4]
;W[nn]
;B[or]C[nighthawk [ 2d?\]: who is white?
nighthawk [ 2d?\]: ahhh
nighthawk [ 2d?\]: nevermind]
;W[np]C[setto [ BC \]: 124 observers found :)
setto [ BC \]: cool
setto [ BC \]: :)
setto [ BC \]: nice move
lavalamp [ 9k \]: back~
olegm [11k+\]: last ditch ko?]
;B[mq]C[lavalamp [ 9k \]: white's dragon...weak
setto [ BC \]: he should force him to connecct]
;W[mr]
;B[oq]C[setto [ BC \]: yeah]
;W[pq]
;B[pr]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: r2
lavalamp [ 9k \]: yea r2
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: hmm q2 looks brute force ish
olegm [11k+\]: R2 can be atari
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: how?
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: i think b should have r2
olegm [11k+\]: Q2, R3, P4 (in some order)]
;W[kr]
;B[qq]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: ok what i saw was r2 q2 q1 p4 p1 o1 r1 r3 s2 s3 t3
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: starting with b r2
olegm [11k+\]: and w would get P4 in sente
Remo [22k \]: I think w should play around j8
lavalamp [ 9k \]: sigh...i dont' know, i'm not a good reader
setto [ BC \]: s2
Grunt [ 6d+\]: yeah but white would push R3 after black Q1]
;W[iq]C[setto [ BC \]: hmm
nighthawk [ 2d?\]: white ahead right now?]
;B[ho]
;W[hn]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: but b can extend to s2
Grunt [ 6d+\]: push at S3]
;B[jq]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: t3
Grunt [ 6d+\]: T2
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: hmm large tail eh
Grunt [ 6d+\]: yeah T2, black caputer, then R1]
;W[jr]
;B[km]C[lavalamp [ 9k \]: H3
lavalamp [ 9k \]: aiya~
Remo [22k \]: j8!!@
setto [ BC \]: :O
setto [ BC \]: i think black wins
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: wait what about b throw in at m2]
;W[jo]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: to stop the tail being captured]
;B[kp]
;W[ip]
;B[og]C[Uberdude [ 2k?\]: i only see 1 eye....
janetwei [ 7k+\]: can white q10 group live?
setto [ BC \]: possibly not
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: we shall soon see heh
Grunt [ 6d+\]: M2 wont save black, still caputer from behind
Grunt [ 6d+\]: caputre*
Grunt [ 6d+\]: capture*]
;W[lm]
;B[jn]C[nighthawk [ 2d?\]: white has 1 eye in gote at P5 then P4 then O7
lavalamp [ 9k \]: well, i play p4 now]
;W[jm]C[olegm [11k+\]: tails are cool :)]
;B[kn]
;W[ll]
;B[im]
;W[lk]
;B[io]C[Nattyice [ 3k?\]: w picking up some
olegm [11k+\]: some magic here]
;W[go]
;B[hp]
;W[hq]
;B[gp]
;W[fp]C[lavalamp [ 9k \]: damn good calculation
janetwei [ 7k+\]: amazing play,
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: hmm, wasn't g4 for w better than g5?]
;B[ld]
;W[mb]
;B[kd]
;W[jc]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: k13?
lavalamp [ 9k \]: k 13's in danger but i 'd go further down first]
;B[bc]C[janetwei [ 7k+\]: white wins]
;W[cb]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: wow ur right
lavalamp [ 9k \]: Q12, big  isn't it?
oldwolf [21k?\]: nobody resign yet?
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: i think darkmage used to faster time
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: its close]
;B[ri]C[lavalamp [ 9k \]: ah~ this is bigger]
;W[hm]
;B[il]
;W[qh]
;B[je]
;W[id]C[Uberdude [ 2k?\]: b5]
;B[oh]
;W[oi]C[Uberdude [ 2k?\]: altough gote whoever gets it has sente follow up]
;B[bo]
;W[ap]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: b is losing by like 5 pts]
;B[bb]
;W[ba]C[janetwei [ 7k+\]: a4 is good to remember]
;B[bp]
;W[bq]
;B[an]
;W[rh]
;B[jg]
;W[jf]
;B[kg]
;W[me]
;B[mf]C[Uberdude [ 2k?\]: its not more points if b doesn't ko
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: just means no ko risk]
;W[kl]
;B[jl]
;W[gq]
;B[jo]
;W[op]
;B[rj]
;W[os]C[Uberdude [ 2k?\]: s10 not bigger than p4?]
;B[qr]
;W[ng]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: black shouldnt have let white get middle territory like that...
lavalamp [ 9k \]: hm...i thought it is
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: they played fast there]
;B[kc]C[Nattyice [ 3k?\]: in tha tmiddle territory
lavalamp [ 9k \]: see like i said~ M12 cut wasn't good]
;W[kb]
;B[le]C[lavalamp [ 9k \]: lol]
;W[mc]C[lavalamp [ 9k \]: not utilizing the thickness on the corner wall]
;B[sb]
;W[of]C[Uberdude [ 2k?\]: you tell that pro!]
;B[pf]C[Nattyice [ 3k?\]: so w did use that q7 wall effectively heh
lavalamp [ 9k \]: lol]
;W[nf]
;B[pg]
;W[sc]C[lavalamp [ 9k \]: ouch]
;B[sg]
;W[sh]C[earth [ BC \]: w leads too much
earth [ BC \]: lol]
;B[qe]
;W[sa]C[lavalamp [ 9k \]: gets t18~
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: why r15?]
;B[sd]
;W[rg]
;B[sf]C[Nattyice [ 3k?\]: hey grunt this game played like other darkmage games i guess]
;W[si]
;B[sj]
;W[jd]C[lavalamp [ 9k \]: what's a darkmage game?]
;B[hl]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: a comeback from behind type of game]
;W[dp]C[lavalamp [ 9k \]: i c]
;B[sb]C[Grunt [ 6d+\]: lol
Uberdude [ 2k?\]: can anyone explain r15, seems lived ok if take t18?]
;W[mg]
;B[lg]C[setto [ BC \]: 131 observers]
;W[sc]
;B[gm]
;W[fn]
;B[sb]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: why not n11
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: its actually a point
lavalamp [ 9k \]: yep]
;W[kj]C[not4kids [ 3k \]: is white winning?
lavalamp [ 9k \]: good observation]
;B[jj]
;W[ie]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: yes w is winning]
;B[ra]
;W[pb]
;B[mi]
;W[mj]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: l3 is a point also]
;B[ke]
;W[ln]C[lavalamp [ 9k \]: notanymore]
;B[ps]
;W[kq]
;B[jm]
;W[ns]
;B[ao]
;W[aq]
;B[ab]C[Nattyice [ 3k?\]: heh didnt need the 7.5 komi]
;W[qa]C[Imp20 [ 9k+\]: w +10
Grunt [ 6d+\]: the exchange in the middle was horrible :(]
;B[sc]C[Nattyice [ 3k?\]: ming jiu fell asleep]
;W[ca]C[Uberdude [ 2k?\]: w is soooo cool
lavalamp [ 9k \]: lol
earth [ BC \]: b did not play well anyway
olegm [11k+\]: and he played it so fast]
;B[sa]
;W[pi]
;B[qf]C[earth [ BC \]: haha, w doesnt even take ko]
;W[ph]C[Uberdude [ 2k?\]: hehe, he didn't take ko]
;B[aa]C[Uberdude [ 2k?\]: mokery
Nattyice [ 3k?\]: w's fuseki at 1d strength everthing else is near pro hehe]
;W[kf]
;B[tt]
;W[tt]
;B[tt]TB[ac][ad][ae][af][ag][ah][ai][aj][ak][al][am][bf][bh][bi][bj][bk][bl][bn][cg][ch][ci][cj][ck][cl][dh][di][dj][dk][dl][eh][ei][ej][ek][el][fh][fi][fj][fk][gh][gi][gj][gk][hi][hj][hk][ii][ij][ik][jh][kh][qd][qs][re][rk][rl][rm][ro][rq][rr][rs][se][sk][sl][sm][sn][sp][sq][sr][ss]TW[ar][as][br][bs][cq][cr][cs][da][db][dc][do][dr][ds][ea][eb][ed][ee][eo][ep][er][es][fa][fb][fc][fd][fo][fr][fs][ga][gb][gc][gd][ge][gr][gs][ha][hb][hd][he][hr][hs][ia][ib][ic][ir][is][ja][jb][js][ka][ks][la][lb][lr][ls][ma][mk][ml][mm][ms][na][nb][nj][nk][nl][nm][no][oa][ob][oj][ok][ol][om][on][oo][pa]C[oldwolf [ 3k?\]: r12
setto [ BC \]: hmm
Imp20 [ 9k+\]: the capture of n8 o9 was bad
lavalamp [ 9k \]: b too greeeeeeedy
janetwei [ 7k+\]: white handled the q10 group is unbelievable
W 92.5 B 80.0
W+13
white time: 71:28
black time: 82:30])
