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The Move Mailing List Digest
Issue #006
October 29, 1997


     In this issue:

     Burton/Tandy gig tomorrow (Thursday) night!
     Song Of The Week starts this Sunday
     The Long Lost First Move Album
     Procol Harum set / Move parallel
     Beat At Abbey Road CD features Avengers track
     Roy Woodie on Midlands BBC Radio
     Idle Race Web site: Days of the Broken Arrows


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Subject: Burton/Tandy gig tomorrow night!
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 07:33:43 +0000
From: Lynn Hoskins 

I don't have a lot of info. on this (hopefully I'll get more details
later) but I wanted to let the UK list people know that Trevor Burton
and Richard Tandy will be playing an acoustic gig this Thursday
(tomorrow), Oct. 30, at the Fellar and Firkin pub in Erdington, 
Birmingham.


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Subject: Let's talk music!
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:09:45 +0000
From: Lynn Hoskins 

Dear Move list,

The box set is out...Roy is on tour... I don't know about you, but I'm
ready to roll up my sleeves and start typing out my Song Of The Week
opinions!

I'm told this was attempted on the Move list last year, but it never
took off.  Well, we have quite a few more subscribers now (we've been
getting new subscribers every day!) and I've gotten many private e-mails
requesting some type of in-depth song discussion.

If at first you don't succeed, put a woman in charge. (That's a little
joke, there...)

Song Of The Week is extremely successful on a number of music mailing
lists.  I've seen it in action, and it's a great deal of fun.  Shall we
give it a try? :-)

My plan is to announce a new Song Of The Week every Sunday night.  That
way it's in place at the beginning of each week.  We'll cover all
official Move, Wizzard and Roy Wood solo releases, plus the first ELO
album.  If anyone feels I'm leaving something/someone out, please let me
know.  I'm even thinking about doing an Idle Race song at some point.

Songs will be selected at random, so there's no just no telling what the
Song Of The Week will be.  Oh, the suspense.

Please note that Song Of The Week discussions are in *addition* to
anything else you'd normally post to the list.  In case anyone was
worried!

There are many possible Song Of The Week topics to discuss.  Vocals,
instrumentation, songwriting, arrangement, live performance, production,
etc.  I don't know if we're going to have much luck with lyrics, but we
can try!  In addition to talking about a song's "mechanics," it would be
great if you'd share personal stories connected with the song.  Also,
feel free to bring discussion of live and alternate versions into the
mix.  Positive AND negative comments are welcome.

The first song will be announced this Sunday.  (I decided on Sundays
because I'm always home on Sunday evenings watching "The X-Files.")  I'm
looking forward to reading your posts!

Lynn

P.S. The ELO list will be doing a Song Of The Week, too.  If anyone on
this list is interested in learning more about the music of ELO and ELO
Part II, but you don't necessarily want to participate or receive daily
posts, you're welcome to subscribe to the Showdown Digest so that you
can "eavesdrop."

To subscribe, send an e-mail to:

elo-digest-request@eskimo.com

Subject line: subscribe


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Subject: The Long Lost First Move Album
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:35:46 -0500
From: Christopher Dolmetsch (Dr. D)

Hi!

This is my first posting to the Move list, but I have been a BIG Move fan
since (and I'm dating myself here) late 1966!

Anyway, I've enjoyed the digests I've received so far, bringing me
up-to-date on some of the threads. Especially interesting is the talk 
about boots (forbidden by some other musical discussion groups to which 
I belong).

Here is a topic which I'd like to get some feedback on, if anyone out 
there is old enough to remember it. Bruce and I discussed this privately 
back before this discussion group was formed.  In an April 1967 Melody 
Maker, there was a big cover story about the large mixed-down master 
tapes to first Move album, tentatively titled "Move Mass" or "Mass Move," 
being stolen from a parked car on Denmark Street in Soho just outside 
the Deram office. There was a large reward (UK 10,000) offered for their 
safe return and the article stated that these over-sized tapes were of 
no use to anyone possessing a conventional reel-to-reel tape recorder. 
This theft followed, by some weeks, a smaller article announcing the 
impending release of this album on Deram, and I recall the tracks recorded 
included "Yellow Rainbow", "Kilroy Was Here" and also their current hit 
"Grass Grow" was to be on it. Once the Move switched rather suddenly 
to Regal-Zonophone, it was announced that "Rainbow" etc. were being 
rerecorded for what became the first Move album released (in 1968). 
I no longer have these articles (I wasn't as much into collecting such 
things then as I have since become), but does anyone
else recall this?

When Bev Bevan was asked about this subject last year, he apparently
responded that this reported theft may well have been a "typical publicity
stunt" by Tony Secunda and that he couldn't recall such a sequence of
events at all. In other words, he could not confirm the existence of a
first Move album as having been recorded for Deram. Hummm? I find it
strange that the Move, with two major singles in the charts, would not 
have recorded material for a first album on Deram, when after all, with 
one hit to their credit ("A Whiter Shade Of Pale") and a second single 
yet to appear ("Homburg")  their "stablemates" Procol Harem did indeed 
get that first Deram album released in 67.


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Subject: Newest Procol Harum Set
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:41:51 -0500
From: Christopher Dolmetsch 

Hi All--

Did anyone out there buy the Procol Harum 30th Anniversary set? I'd be
interested in getting some info on the rarities that set contains. 
E-mail in private if you'd prefer, or share with the entire list. PH 
did have a career which initially mirrored that of the Move...same 
manager and producer.


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Subject: Re: Newest Procol Harum Set
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:53:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Bruce Dumes 

I was thinking about the parallel when I saw Roy on stage with Gary
Brooker at Annie Haslam's "Lily's In The Field" concert in NYC in '95.
Gary, like Roy, is still an **incredible** performer, by the way.


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Subject: Procul Harum etc.
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 19:47:06 -0500 (EST)
From: David Marsteller 

Since Procol Harum was brought up, I thought I'd find out if anyone's 
got the new album Beat At Abbey Road yet. According to the write-up in 
the October '97 MOJO, it includes (among others) tracks by The Paramounts
(described as 'Procul Harum's beat combo ancestors') and Gerry Levine and
The Avengers (with Roy Wood). I've got a copy on order, and the way it's
going, it may just turn up before the box set does....

(This appears to be a UK only release.)


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Subject: Roy Woodie on Midlands BBC Radio
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 23:02:35 -0000
From: Euan Wilson

Sorry for not telling anyone but I only found out earlier.

Roy was on BBC Midlands radio from 10:05 to 10:55 tonight.
Same old 'boring interview', well for me anyway, usual questions
about appearance etc. BUT what made this one VERY
interesting was the music.

Two Move tracks - Flowers and Fire Brigade
One Woodie track - Xmas live - from CD single

Plus two "rough live mixes" [roys comment]

One the show was House of Love and Goodnight Bodecia.

Made a nice change to get a couple more versions of these two tracks.

Also present were members of the band and a decent plug for the 
upcoming tour.


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Subject: Re: Roy Woodie on Midlands BBC Radio
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:21:17 +0000
From: Lynn Hoskins 

Euan Wilson wrote:

> plus two "rough live mixes" [roys comment]
>
> One the show was House of Love and Goodnight Bodecia.

Euan, I'm not familiar with either of these, sorry to say. (Obviously,
my Roy collection is not complete.)  Did he perform these live in the
studio, or were these on tape?


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Subject: Re: Roy Woodie on Midlands BBC Radio
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 20:04:22 -0500 (EST)
From: David Marsteller 

My guess is that the rough mixes are from the live album Roy's been
working on for a while. Yep, it sure would be nice if someone taped 
this. Or if Roy finishes his mixing and puts it out...


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Subject: Days of the Broken Arrows
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:02:23 GMT
From: Ed Morris

Hi all,

For all those who asked (and presumably all those that didn't) I've
(well we've) had a pretty good stab at the lyrics to both released
versions of Days of the Broken Arrows.

They're now up on the Idle Race page along with most of the others.

Give us a shout if you can fill in the gaps :)

Ta




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