[This digest is the copyright of the Move "Useless Information" Mailing List. Re-publication or re-distribution of "Useless Information" content, in any form whatsoever, is expressly prohibited without prior written consent.] USELESS INFORMATION The Move Mailing List Digest Issue #319 January 22, 2002 In this issue: * Roy Wood on Carlton TV's "Rock Legends" * Roy in NYC - coming up soon! * Roy's Christmas surprise * Question about Roy's New York gigs (cont.) * New York Band * Carl Wayne's first solo album * Alright you lot, buy this box! * Messages from the country * Jason Crest's Lemon Tree * Wizzard Brew CD (cont.) * Wizzard / Wizard ============================================================== To POST TO THE LIST: Send an e-mail to: move-list@eskimo.com Useful Web addresses: TheMoveOnline: http://www.themoveonline.com Official Roy Wood site: http://www.roywood.co.uk Face The Music Online: http://www.ftmusic.com Join the ELO List: http://www.eskimo.com/~noanswer/showdown.html Move List Info & Archives: http://www.eskimo.com/~noanswer/movelist.html TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Send an e-mail to move-digest-request@eskimo.com with the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes) in the subject line ============================================================== Subject: Roy Wood on Carlton TV's "Rock Legends" Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:38:12 -0800 From: Lynn Hoskins As a follow-up to the Birmingham Evening Mail article I posted to the list last month about Noddy Holder's "Rock Legends" show on Carlton Television...I received this from Carlton promotion: The programme on Roy Wood, which looks at his career through the Move, ELO and Wizzard will be transmitted on 25th January (Carlton Tv's Central region) at 10.50pm. The programme takes a look at Roy's old stomping grounds and features interviews with Rick Price, Chris Tarrant, Sir Tim Rice, Pete Waterman and Toyah Willcox. The programme also features Roy's latest band and a recording of their brand new track. Other programmes in the series are: Fine Young Cannibals - tx;18th Jan, Roy Wood tx; 25th Jan, Dexy's Midnight Runners tx:1st Feb and 2 Tone: 8th Feb. ----- If anyone in the Central area can pick up this show, please post your review. By the way, the show also includes lots of photos and memorabilia from the amazing collection of "Roy Wood Superfan" Martin Kinch. ********** Subject: Re: Roy Wood on Carlton TV's "Rock Legends" Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:07:23 -0800 From: "Steve" So how do folks in the US get a VHS copy of this? ********** Subject: Re: Roy Wood on Carlton TV's "Rock Legends" Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 00:45:35 -0800 From: Kevin A Kunreuther The format is going to be PAL not SECAM. How 'bout someone making a QuickTime version on CD-R and distributing it to any who cares here in States? ********** Subject: Roy in NYC - coming up soon! Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 21:13:00 -0800 From: John DeSilva Movers: Just as a way to get the ball rolling with regard to the Army's upcoming appearances in the Big Apple, I thought I'd post my plans (or lack thereof) for the weekend of 3/21, 22, 23, 24: - I'll be in town from 3/21 until 3/24. _ I'll be going to the shows on 3/21 and 3/22. - no other plans as yet. Anybody want to get together before/after the shows, a la Canter's in LA for the ELO PBS tapings? ********** Subject: Re: Roy in NYC - coming up soon! Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:42:25 -0800 From: "Doyle, Joe" John wrote: >Anybody want to get together before/after the shows, a la Canter's in >LA for the ELO PBS tapings? I'll be there with my clan in tow from 21st to 23rd. Not too sure when we will arrive yet, as we're not booking our flights until a bit closer to the time. Lyn ('er indoors) and I will be at the show on the 21st and, apart from some loose idea that we might 'see a show', like John we have no real plans either. I'm up for a pre/post show get together too. Maybe Brian Ono Winston O'Boogie (to give him his formal title!), or somebody else who knows the area could suggest a little drinking hole, close to the Village Underground, that we can gather at? Mind you, if it's an over 21 show, I assume that we might get a beer at the Underground - is it worth meeting there early?. I'm open for anything really. Whatever happens, I'm really looking forward to the concert and to putting some faces to the names on the List. ********** Subject: Roy's Christmas surprise Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:28:15 -0800 From: Lynn Hoskins Simply Wizzard! Evening Mail Birmingham (UK) December 27, 2001 by Sarah Tyrrell Midland rock legend Roy Wood brought some wizardry to town when he joined more than 3,000 youngsters at a Christmas concert in Birmingham. The former Wizzard lead singer made a surprise appearance at the event at the National Indoor Arena. Everything from caroles to contemporary Christmas songs was on the programme but the highlight came when Roy led the pupils in performing his festive anthem "I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day." (c)2001 Birmingham Post and Mail Ltd. ********** Subject: Re: Question about Roy's New York gigs Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:45:57 -0800 From: Bbmarkow@aol.com Mindgrind writes: >Roy's website says he's going to be in New York on the 21-23 of March. >Then, I goto TicketWeb's site and they have tickets for the 21-24. >Is Roy's site wrong? Is he going to be there on the 24th? I haven't seen a response to mindgrind's email. I'm also wondering if anyone knows the answer regarding the 24th. ********** Subject: Re: Question about Roy's New York gigs Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 08:54:31 -0800 From: Alfred Masciocchi Roy's site (http://www.roywood.co.uk/) does indicate an extra date added on 24 March. ********** Subject: Re: Question about Roy's New York gigs Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 08:54:38 -0800 From: Coinfobur Just before Christmas www.roywood.co.uk was updated with the 24th March gig so it appears to be on the calendar. See you all there? ********** Subject: Re: Question about Roy's New York gigs Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:28:30 -0800 From: John DeSilva In addition, if you go to TicketWeb's site (www.ticketweb.com), it shows the 24th as a confirmed date on the main page for the Village Underground. It also says that it replaces the 11/11 show, and that old tickets will be honored. ********** Subject: Re: Question about Roy's New York gigs Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:28:21 -0800 From: "Mindgrind" Yes, after I asked this question on the list, the date was added on Woody's site. So, it looks like 4 days of Woody heaven. I've been thinking of going all 4 days, but I don't know. Would that be overkill? Will he be changing his set for each day, or will they be exactly the same? ********** Subject: Re: Question about Roy's New York gigs Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 01:32:37 -0800 From: Coinfobur >I've been thinking of going all 4 days, but I don't know. Would that >be overkill? Yeah, go to all four...he doesn't get over to the States that often does he? ********** Subject: Re: Question about Roy's New York gigs Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 01:32:48 -0800 From: "Ken Latta" I doubt very much that he'll be changing the set on different days. Hey! we've had the same set in the UK for the last 10 years, give or take a song or two. Old habits die hard with Roy. ;) Ken 'RoyZone' The Official Roy Wood Website www.roywood.co.uk ********** Subject: New York Band Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 00:45:30 -0800 From: "SCOT PARIS" I was wondering, what with the "Army's" New York gigs coming soon, whether there were any musicians in the N.Y. area interested in getting together and playing some Move, Roy Wood etc. material, strictly for the fun of it. I'm a bassist with decades (geez, that makes me feel old) of playing under my belt. Unfortunately, many people I play with in N.Y. are not familiar with Move, etc, tunes and nobody wants to stand around in a studio and listen to me playing a bass-only arrangement of "Cherry Blossom Clinic" (the fools!). I'd love to get some feedback (insert your own bad joke!). ********** Subject: Carl Wayne's first solo album Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 18:11:26 -0800 From: John DeSilva I received my copy of the Carl Wayne CD yesterday, complete with a personalized autograph from the man himself, and I've been listening to it yesterday and today. I just wanted to give my impressions about the music. This is a very interesting album, especially coming off the heels of Shazam, where Carl was able to show his vocal and emotional range on songs like "Beautiful Daughter", "Fields of People", "Don't Make My Baby Blue", and especially "The Last Thing On My Mind". This album showcases Carl's range in a variety of orchestral settings - many of the songs have a kind of late '60s Elvis feel, like "Suspicious Minds" or "Kentucky Rain". But there are also influences from other artists of the time, such as Love and their "Forever Changes" album, Elton John and the "Tumbleweed Connection" album, and the "new" Broadway of the time, as represented by Jesus Christ Superstar and Godspell. Carl does a fantastic job vocally throughout - especially on the Edwin Hawkins number "I Heard The Voice of Jesus" and "Long Long Time" (a song done by Linda Ronstadt as well). I give Carl major credit for going this route after his stint with the Move - he shows great range in the material, and while it would be considered a pop music album, it's a more serious minded, warm, inviting album than what he could have done if he had musically traded on his Move affiliation. The choices of the songs and the emotional investment he puts into each track rises this above mere "cabaret" or "show-biz" music. Highly recommended. ********** [Catching up...] Subject: Alright you lot, buy this box! Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 15:13:47 -0700 From: John DeSilva I just blew my music budget for the next couple of months (while not forgetting to reserve enough to purchase ELO tix!) and bought the Rhino Records release Nuggets II (Original Artyfacts from the British Empire and Beyond). I highly recommend this box set - in some ways it surpasses the first Nuggets box set (music from the American psychedelic era) in that the songs and bands have much more varied approaches than the "garage bands" in the first Nuggets box. This box includes two from the Move (I Can Hear the Grass Grow and Fire Brigade), two from the Idle Race (Imposters of Life's Magazine, Days of the Broken Arrows), and the real jewel of this box, Dance 'Round the Maypole by the Acid Gallery (Woody with the Tremeloes) - finally a well-mastered copy of this Roy rarity. The whole box set is chock full of fun, and spans the globe to bring you the constant variety of punky music (countries represented include Sweden, Spain, Japan, and Iceland(!) as well as the UK). It's great fun to play "spot the influence" with each song - so I'm in trivia heaven listening to this!!! ;-) ********** Subject: Messages from the country Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 12:27:53 +0100 From: Keith Fletcher I have just noticed on the Schedule for release with Key Mail order is Messages from the country plus all single side sand unreleased materials. Date 10 Sept 2001. Rob any comment how close is this in reality, as we know you have been very busy with the ELO sides of things recently. Also what ever happened to the 'Live at the Fillmore' CD promised over a year ago now? Any other Move related releases where the band have some input promised in the near future? ********** Subject: Re: Messages from the country Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 06:39:48 +0000 From: Rob Caiger > I have just noticed on the Schedule for release with Key Mail order > is Messages from the country plus all single side sand unreleased > materials. Date 10 Sept 2001. It's so close I've got the CD and artwork with me now in LA for Jeff's approval - the same will be happening in the UK for Roy while I'm out here. >Also what ever happened to the 'Live at the Fillmore' CD promised over >a year ago now? As soon as The Move's catalogue and royalty injustices have been rectified (2 years of work on that so far) then the release we've all been waiting for will start to appear. But not before. Best - Rob ********** Subject: Jason Crest's Lemon Tree Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 18:13:50 -0400 From: "stephen mulcahy" has anyone heard the jason crest version of 'lemon tree' that was produced by roy wood? is it any good? also, has anyone heard a heavy number by jason crest called' black mass'? allegedly, its very good-i'd be interested in finding out about that group... ********** Subject: Jason Crest's Lemon Tree Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 19:58:18 -0700 From: Greg Weatherby yea, I have both those tracks, and a bunch more by Jason Crest. They were, IMO, one of the great 'forgotten' groups from the 60s. Their version of "Lemon Tree" is very good, and well worth having if you are a Roy / Move fan. It's very much in the Move mode, not a radicval re-make. "Black Mass' on the other hand is one of my least favorite JC tunes, it's pretty out-of-character with the rest of their stuff, although their later material is a little bit heavier like "Black Mass". I think the Roy Wood producing "Lemon Tree' story though is not actually correct. If you want more information, check out a web page called 'Marmalade Skies'. It is the best web page around for info about the BritPsych stuff, and a fascinating read all the way around for fans of this era. Here is the URl to get to the JC info, but do yourself a favour and go back and check out the whole thing. And, yes, I have made some very small contributions to it in terms of pictures. http://www.geocities.com/britishpsych/crest.html I have posted up an .mp3 file. Click on the below URL, and it should download. Bear in mind that it is nearly a 3 meg file, so without broadband access, it will take a while. Great group, great song. Let me know what you think! http://www.best.com/~newwaves/LemonTree.mp3 Greg ********** Subject: Re: Wizzard Brew CD Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:07:12 +0000 From: Rob Caiger Mindgrind wrote: > Is Wizzard's Brew out-of-print already? Yes, deliberately so. Jon Hinchliffe wrote: > I can only assume they had a limited team of people working on all > the celebration releases and no one with any knowledge of the original > album etc Again yes. A very rushed release to go with the Harvest box set. Anyway, a full remaster is being planned for 1st or 2nd quarter 2002, done to the standard of the First Light ELO / Move series. Our requirement, as ever, is that the creator has to be involved. More details later in the year. Best - Rob ********** Subject: Re: Wizzard Brew CD Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:17:58 -0700 From: John DeSilva Rob wrote: > Anyway, a full remaster is being planned for 1st or 2nd quarter 2002, > done to the standard of the First Light ELO / Move series. Our > requirement, as ever, is that the creator has to be involved. More > details later in the year. Rob: This is GREAT news. I was thrilled when Wizzard Brew came out on CD, but was disappointed that it was treated like a budget buy release missing explanatory liner notes, more thorough remastering job, etc. This should put things right - awesome!! ********** Subject: Re: Wizzard Brew CD Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:14:17 -0500 (CDT) From: POP04 (Joseph) I hoped (and kinda expected) "Wizzard's Brew" would be included in the "First Light" series because Wood, Lynne, and Bevan released 5 studio albums on Harvest (ELO, ELO 2, Message, Boulders, Brew) and the other four were on the First Light roster. Also, it fits in with the First Light theme because while ELO 2 shows what Jeff and Bev did after Roy left ELO, Brew shows what Roy did after leaving. "ELO 2" and "Wizzard's Brew" were released the same month. Also, I've heard complaints about the sound on the "Wizzard's Brew" CD, but what about the "California Man" and "ELO 2" CD's issued alongside it? Just curious. By the way, what about the "Super Active Wizzo" (with "Sight And Sound" bonus disc) and "On The Road Again" CD reissue projects discussed here months ago? I was somehow unsubscribed when it was first being discussed. If anything trnspired, I missed it. Could someone fill me in? ********** Subject: Re: Wizzard Brew CD Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:32:57 +0100 From: Jon Hinchliffe Excellent news :-) I hope any release would also contain :- See My Baby Jive Rob Roy's Nightmare Ball Back Incident You got the Jump on me. Angel Fingers Bend Over Beethoven and the full Carlsberg Special. Is the See My Baby Jive album release with the Wizzard Brew tracks removed. This all nicely fits on one disc and seems of a similar type to me but I guess it would as they are my most played Wizzard albums. ********** Subject: Re: Wizzard Brew CD Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:28:31 -0500 (CDT) From: POP04 (Joseph) Full version of Carlsberg Special?? I've got a CD called "Wizzard Singles A's & B's". It is on Repertoire Records and has GREAT sound. It has all those songs you mention from the "See My Baby Jive" LP plus many more. t has awesome sound and packaging (it comes in a cardboard sleeve type thing an inner booklet with well written liner notes and original singles release information) and I highly recommend it. It forms a sort of Box Set with the "Exotic Mixture" 2CD set. Repertoire released them both at the same time and the Wizzard CD has all Wizzard singles and EM has all Wood solo singles. The liner notes and packaging also fit well together. Is "Carlsberg Special" not complete on this CD? The tracks are: *Ball Park Incident *See My Baby Jive *Angel Fingers Rock And Roll Winter This Is The Story Of My Love (Baby) You Got Me Running Are You Ready To Rock? Rattlesnake Roll *The Carlsberg Special *Bend Over Beethoven *You Got The Jump On Me Dream Of Unwin Nixture Marathon Man Can't Help My Feelings *I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday *Rob Roy's Nightmare Can't Help My Feelings (German Single Edit) "The Carlsberg Special" is 4.12 in length. Is this the short or full version? With this CD, "Main Street", "Introducing Eddy & The Falcons", and "Wizzard's Brew", you have all Wizzard recordings. Of course, if the 8 Harvest A's and B's (the ones i marked with a star (*)) are included on the new "Wizzard's Brew" CD, you wouldn't need "Wizzard Singles A's & B's" because all the songs on it would be bonus tracks on Brew, Eddy, and Mustard, except for the German edited version of CHMF, but you'd have the full version anyway... Oh well. ********** Subject: Re: Wizzard Brew CD Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 21:05:29 +0100 From: Jon Hinchliffe Joseph wrote: >Full version of Carlsberg Special?? I've got a CD called "Wizzard >Singles A's & B's". It is on Repertoire Records and has GREAT sound. >It has all those songs you mention from the "See My Baby Jive" LP plus >many more. I must admit I never got this one. I am sure I have it all one way or another. Must I don't have the full Carlsberg Special.On the Comp I have it is missing the Harpsichord(?) intro I will wait and see what happens with re-releases before getting this disc. ********** Subject: Re: Wizzard Brew CD Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:09:34 -0500 (CDT) From: POP04 (Joseph) OK then, it is the full thing. The harpsichord intro is there. It's a great CD. Having it already, I'd prefer "Wizzard's Brew" bonus tracks to be outtakes, unreleased studio stuff, and the alternate mixes from the US vinyl of the album. How many of you knew that the US version had different mixes? I've heard this...and that they're superior to the UK mixes. I don't know though. A friend of mine does have the US record. This is great news, but I'd still like to know what happened about the "Super Active Wizzo" (with bonus disc) and "On The Road Again" CD reissues discussed here months ago. I stopped getting this list for reasons unknown around the time that was developing. TANX! Joseph, the OTHER 16-year-old Wizzo ********** Subject: Re: Wizzard Brew CD Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 01:24:41 +0000 From: Rob Caiger > This is great news, but I'd still like to know what happened about the > "Super Active Wizzo" (with bonus disc) and "On The Road Again" CD Still at discussion and preparation stage. That's the beauty of the Useless Information and Showdown lists, you get the information as its happening, direct from the source. Or as it's developing in this case (and now you'll see how long things take to get out!). Rob Caiger - Face The Music Online - www.ftmusic.com ********** Subject: Wizzard / Wizard Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 01:17:32 -0800 From: "Lynnette Cannell" Having just visited amazon.co.uk was amazed at the huge list of "Wizzard" recordings. Is the name not copyright? It appears that there is another band using the same name, as there is a release listed as 2000, called Songs of Sin and Decadence upon which I recognised not a single title, and although the type face on the cover is the same as on some wizzard releases, the cover art appears to be some sort of devilish fairies! Someone please confirm that this is not the Wizzard we all know and love! There is also a Wizzard listed as some sort of compilation of various artists - all very confusing. I'll bet these have caught some folk out! I went there to see if they have the cd recommended by Joseph (they do, at 8.99). Lynnette ********** Subject: Re: Wizzard / Wizard Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 04:17:56 -0500 From: Kevin A Kunreuther There is a satanic/glam/heavy metal outfit in Brazil that calls themselves Wizzard. They have a page to themselves on MP3.com. I have sent them several e-mails informing them that they have filched the name and they send e-mails back filled with either claims of innocence or huge tracts of satanic curses and profanity. Not nice blokes or your everyday Catholic schoolboys in trouble. And their music is rather dull, if also loud and repetitive. Perhaps if the whole list just visited their site on MP3.com and went to feedback portion of site and let them know how we feel about a bunch of no-account faux satanic brazillian rockers lifting the name of of our beloved Woody's old band, maybe they would get the message. Actually this reminds of an incident in my personal history from 1989. I was working for a music management company/local record label that had signed a pretty crappy dance band that called themselves The New Move. They were kids, so of course they never heard of the Move. As the new hired A&R guy, I advised the label that the band change their name immediately, to avoid messy lawsuits and what have you. I explained to them why they should bother, since The Move never got beyond cult status in the States, I had to show them all the records I had, the old saved press clippings, the overseas chart positions and point out to these guys, that this band was a huge success in UK and Europe . Eventually saner heads prevailed (they hired a lawyer to verify everything I explained to them, sheeesh, they could have given me the money) and they changed the band's name to The Rhythm Complex. Not very successful anywhere I'm afraid. ********** Subject: Re: Wizzard / Wizard Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 21:14:45 +0100 From: "Jon Hinchliffe" Lynnette wrote: >Having just visited amazon.co.uk was amazed at the huge list of "Wizzard" >recordings. Is the name not copyright? It is interesting another band should also choose to mis-spell Wizard. Is Wizzard actually the correct spelling in an language? I wonder why Woody choose that spelling (was it a 70's Slade thing?). I certainly now understand which Jimmy Saville introduced them on Top of the Pops as Wiz-zard. There also seems to be a band called Wizard. End of Useless Information #319 ******************************* [This digest is the copyright of the Move "Useless Information" Mailing List. Re-publication or re-distribution of "Useless Information" content, in any form whatsoever, is expressly prohibited without prior written consent.]