[This digest is the copyright of the Move "Useless Information" Mailing List. Re-publication or re-distribution of "Useless Information" content, in any form whatsoever, is expressly prohibited without prior written consent.] USELESS INFORMATION The Move Mailing List Digest Issue #388 September 12, 2002 In this issue: * Roy Wood's Army at the Robin 2 * Move popularity in the UK * Paranoia Blues * Not-so-useless information * The Move on USA Radio (cont.) * What Little Steven said about The Move (cont.) * Move popularity in the UK (more...) * Thoughts on "Carl Wayne" CD * Jeff Lynne co-produces final George Harrison album ============================================================== To POST TO THE LIST: Send an e-mail to: move-list@eskimo.com Move List Info & Archives: http://www.eskimo.com/~noanswer/movelist.html Join the ELO List: http://www.eskimo.com/~noanswer/showdown.html Other official websites: The Move: http://www.themoveonline.com Roy Wood: http://www.roywood.co.uk Face The Music (for all ELO & related news): http://www.ftmusic.com TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Send an e-mail to move-digest-request@eskimo.com with the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes) in the subject line ============================================================== Subject: Roy Wood's Army at the Robin 2 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:38:48 -0700 From: Lynn Hoskins It's an easy date to remember... Friday the 13th! Roy Wood's Army 13 September, 2002 The Robin 2 Bilston, West Midlands Show time: 9.30pm Tickets: £12.50 and £13.50 Box Office: 01384 637747 The Robin 2 is on Mount Pleasant in Bilston Town Centre, opposite the police station, about 2 miles from Wolverhampton and the M6 junction. Plenty of free parking. More info: http://www.therobin.co.uk/ ********** Subject: Move popularity in the UK Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:22:15 -0700 From: Lynn Hoskins Linda wrote: >Hey us folks in the UK are'nt as lucky as you may think as I can't >remember the last time The Move were played on the radio...Even if the >songs were played you can bet it would only be Flowers in the Rain >Fire >Brigade and maybe Blackberry Way. Okay, now I'm depressed. The Move are getting dissed in their own country. That's criminal. Would you say that Wizzard and Roy solo get a bit more airplay? Or is it about the same (as in ZERO)? Andypmdunn was kind enough to let us know how The Move (and related) did in this year's Record Collector poll of most collectable 500 artists. Last year The Move was at 225. This year... 496? Out of 500?? Damn, even the collectors have lost interest. ********** Subject: Re: Move popularity in the UK Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:48:43 -0700 From: JANES434 (Linda) Hi Lynn, I must have been listening at different times to Terry on Capital Gold as I don't remember hearing a Move song played that often and yes I suppose we do hear more Wizzard and of course ELO over here I think rather than The Move. I too read the poll in Record Collector and thought at the time what is going on The Move at # 496 but what annoyed me even more was that Cilla Black and Olivia Newton John were # 351 and # 168 has the world gone mad !!! Terry mentioned the show on Capital Gold "From the Bottom to the Top" this is an excellent show one of the best artists I've heard featured was Gary Brooker from Procul Harum quite amusing in parts and brilliant music from 1967. Cheers, Linda ********** Subject: Paranoia Blues Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 04:05:52 -0700 From: Terry Edwards Lynn asked: - >For our UK list members... do The Move get played fairly often on the >radio? Or do you mostly hear post-Move Roy Wood tracks? > >Paranoidly yours, Hi Lynn, In London, we have a station called "Capital Gold" that plays only 60's / 70's and 80's music. This an AM station, but also now broadcasts digitally (have not got round to acquiring this technology yet, I am afraid). You quite often get Move singles. The real interesting programme for me is at 11am on Sunday morning, when they have a programme called "From The Bottom To The Top", when they play an entire chart from a given week with an artist who was around or about the No.1 position in the studio commenting on the songs. Recently we have had "Crazy" Arthur Brown, Ian Gillan from Deep Purple, Paul Rodgers from Free, Adam Faith and last week was John Leyton. I keep hoping Woody will do a week ...... although knowing my luck he already has and I was on holiday .... hope not. Oh btw I am glad that I set my Video for TOTP2 tonight if "Fire Brigade" in on. Good job is wasn't tomorrow, as I have to miss it now that it clashes with "Enterprise"....just a very old trekkie at heart!!! Better move on and do some work. Regards, Terry Paranoia Edwards ********** Subject: Not-so-useless information Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:30:46 -0700 From: David Friedman I so look forward each Digest that you send, but the thing that gets me the most excited is also so frustrating. On a recent Digest, it was discussed how Jimmy Miller (famed Rolling Stones producer, session drummer, etc.) produced Blackberry Way and that Richard Tandy performed bass or harpsichord (I can't recall which)--a fact which is revealed in NOT ONE LINER NOTE that I've ever read. Fast-forward to the following entry by Rob ... Something was originally recorded April '68 and re-recorded in June of the same year with Denny Cordell at the helm--once again a detail that liner notes have not been able to accommodate. Another one: Jeff plays drums on "Feels Too Good." These seem to be mentioned as "Oh by the way" on the digest as I'm saying to myself "Oh my God... what an interesting bit that I didn't know." I'd like to know things like: What tracks is Trevor actually playing bass on, what was the last song recorded with Ace, why did it take so long to record the first album, I don't know if other list members are salivating as much as I for as much detail about THE MOVE IN THE STUDIO (who played what, when was it recorded, interesting details that haven't already appeared in print 500 times), but I'd like to put in a vote for more of that type of info. Maybe I'll just have to wait until the albums/reissues/biographies receive their proper due one day and if I do that is fine too. Thanks Lynn! David ********** Subject: Re: The Move on USA Radio Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:36:18 -0700 From: marmil (Marc) >In the early '70's, Billy Bass at WMMS in Cleveland played cuts from >Shazam. In the mid '70's a friend and I wasted 3 consecutive saturday >mornings calling their "request line" in an attempt to hear "Angel >Fingers". We finally figured out the scam. They took the requests, but >played whatever they wanted. Not Sam - Billy Bass went on to a pretty long career as a promo guy, mostly @ Chrysalis (If I remember correctly). Now, about the Move on US radio - I heard (at least) Do Ya, & Cherry Blossom Clinic 2 on WNEW-FM, New York, in 72-73, ish. Scott Muni played 'em. When I worked @ WBCN, Boston, I personally played Do Ya, Brontoburger, Flowers in the Rain, Omnibus, Wild Tiger Woman, and a few others. I also played some Wizzard stuff, and I think we were the only station in the country to play Keep Your Hands on the Wheel...I was Music Director and I added it, much to the consternation of almost EVERYONE ELSE! Keep in mind, tho, that I played this stuff usually late Saturday night and always got a few calls from listeners who couldn't believe they were hearing Move/Roy etc. on a BIG radion station. God I miss those days. ********** Subject: Re: The Move on USA Radio Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:17:01 -0700 From: "stephen mulcahy" the big commercial classic rock station here in boston, wzlx, played do ya a few times some years back. fortunately here we also have the MIT station, wmbr. this station has a cool 60's show from 12-2 on weekdays - they don't play the overplayed stuff, they play obscure tracks from all 60s genres by acts known and unknown. they play the move rather frequently, but unfortunately they just appear to have SPLIT ENDS and the 2 lp 1974 best of, much of what they have is vinyl, although they have lots of really obscure psych stuff ...i've heard flowers in the rain, the minister, i can hear the grass grow, this time tomorrow, no time, the words of aaron, ella james, night of fear, and many others. they also play some roy wood/wizzard stuff like you can dance the rock and roll. they would also play early ELO, up to maybe eldorado, though i think i've only heard 10538 overture...the show plays stuff from the 60's up until about say 74. its a great show except for fridays...for some reason the guy they have on friday plays awful music... ********** Subject: Re: The Move on USA Radio Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:17:23 -0700 From: Mike Gough In Philadelphia Pa., I first heard The Move on WMMR. Michael Tierson played em, he was always really good with playing quality "obscure" music. Thanks to him, I heard the solo albums from ex-Bonzo Dog Band Roger Ruskin Spear. I love Spear's Electric Schocks l.p. and Tierson used to play the wonderful song "All by Myself In the Moonlight", which came off it. Hello Suzie, and Cherry Blossom Clinic Revisited got airplay and I know I heard Fields of People at least once on the radio. Other than that, I heard Do Ya a couple of times, but in later years its always the (inferior in my opinion) ELO version that gets played. I bought a copy of Shazam back then, and quickly became addicted to it and all things Move/Roy Wood/ELO/Wizzard/etc related. I know they could have made it in the USA because I took Shazam to a lot of parties back then, and people always really enjoyed it, and I know a lot of them bought copies for themselves. It is sad news indeed, that the masters of such a classic piece of music has been allowed to be lost. Peace Mike Gough ********** Subject: Re: What Little Steven said about The Move Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:30:57 -0700 From: Hugo Von Affenschwanz >And what about our list members who live in Chile, Sweden, Germany, >Japan, Russia, Israel, Norway, France, Australia, China, Finland, >Denmark... (don't worry, I'm not going to name every country on the >globe ;) ...have you ever heard a Move song on the radio? If not, >how did you become a fan? One and only time i've heard Move on the radio was one and a half year ago, when i heard them on alternative music station "Radio KNZ" (R.I.P.). The DJ played in the mornings some old stuff like Downtown, Wild Thing, Twist and Shout, etc., and so one morning i woke up with Blackberry Way. I was gladly surprised becouse i thought no one knows Move in my country. I was right - i was familiar with this DJ and when i later talked with him he told me he doesn't know anything about Roy and played this song just from a compilation of 60ties:) When i heard this song i was was already a fan. How i became? I was a fan of ELO, have read somewhere about Moves TV and car destructions on the stage, have watched two Wizzard videos (Ball Park Accident and I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday) have listened "Tonight" in some another compilation, so i decided to buy some album (that was Looking On) and after i've listened it first time i became a Move fan. Ugis Vismanis, Riga, Latvia, Eastern Europe ********** Subject: Re: Move popularity in the UK Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:11:23 -0700 From: Ally Gourlay There is a programme on a small Scottish radio station that plays plenty Woody. The station is called Classic VRN 1287AM and the programme is called "Art School Dancing". It goes out on a Wednesday night from 10-midnight and there's always plenty Roy each week. Only last week there were 4 tracks including Look Thru The Eyes Of A Fool and California Man. The week before the cool presenter played "When Alice Comes Back To The Farm" and "Omnibus". And no doubt tonight he'll air some more. He even has a cool voiceover for the programme done by Roy. And the presenter - well, he does have rather good taste. It's ME. Ally ********** Subject: Roy on Brit Radio Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:11:46 -0700 From: "Sandie Blickem" Ally said: >There is a programme on a small Scottish radio station that plays plenty >Woody. The station is called Classic VRN 1287AM and the programme is >called "Art School Dancing". It goes out on a Wednesday night from >10-midnight and there's always plenty Roy each week. Can you detect the accent in Ally's posting! I could hear it from here! Wonderful! There is a small local station here called Star FM that does not reach more than about a 15 mile radius (I think) and they have aired Roy more than any others I've heard. I canna believe he is going to stop doing his "old stuff" gigs - that would be such a shame - he hasna done many for the last two years now (sob)... ********** Subject: Re: Move popularity in the UK Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:31:59 -0700 From: Andrew Footman Ally wrote: >There is a programme on a small Scottish radio station that plays plenty >Woody. The station is called Classic VRN 1287AM and the programme is >called "Art School Dancing". Good one Ally, only wish we could get that radio station in Wolverhampton. No Roy Wood, Move or Wizzard played here mate. All the best Andy ********** Subject: Re: Move popularity in the UK Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:25:23 -0700 From: "Lynnette Cannell" Andy wrote: >Good one Ally, only wish we could get that radio station in >Wolverhampton. No Roy Wood, Move or Wizzard played here mate. Well, there will be on Friday night, - wont there? You going Ally? Be nice to see you again - but you gotta wear the coat!! ********** Subject: Re: Move popularity in the UK Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 18:20:40 -0700 From: "Dave Woodier" I'll be there! ********** Subject: Thoughts on "Carl Wayne" CD Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:29:48 -0700 From: kakman1 Hello people, Last Thursday got the Carl Wayne solo Japanese re-master on CD and have been listening to it quite bit. When I was younger, I was always aware of the vinyl version that was on the U.K. RCA label, as well as Rick Price's solo on Fly Records. I always gave those two releases a miss when I came across them in collectors shops. I even saw Rick Price's LP at Bill's in Richardson,TX (or is it N. Dallas?) as late as 1989, and I still gave it a miss. I had never heard the music from either release, but I felt they were non-essential and over-priced. Well, now having heard "Carl Wayne" repeatedly all weekend and now half of this week, I feel ready to comment on this album. If you haven't got it yet, I have to tell you, this is not in any way anything like The Move, not even like "Something" or "This Time Tomorrow". I thought I had an inkling of what to expect but what I heard really took me by surprise. My initial reaction was, like, "this is so schmaltzy", but, I decided to be fair and not so reactive, and give it some more airings. Some of this reminded me of some of the stuff that David Bowie used to record on Deram before he released "Space Oddity". A lot of that stuff Bowie did at the time was very Anthony Newley with a slight dollop of Englebert thrown in, with a bit of a nod towards the Mods, then the hippies. Carl, though, has none of Bowie's pretensions. He tackles MOR, R&B, pop, gospel and more on this release and gives what I suppose was then called a mature interpretation of the songs presented. None of the wild and unrestrained caterwauling of the rock'roll set here. Nope, Carl and his producer (and RCA) knew what audience they were aiming at with this record and armed with a bevy of contemporary arrangers came up with a smorgasboard of light adult fare that satisfied both the artist and (hopefully) his perceived audience. This album was definitely not calculated to cash in on his association with The Move. I have to say, some bits of this album are a little too saccharine for my tastes, "Sunday Kind Of Love" and "Magic Day" being the worst offenders. Absolute treacle. Where's my toothbrush? On the other hand, "Jubilee Cloud", and "I Heard The Voice Of Jesus" are sheer delights. I can almost imagine Roy joining Carl on "Jubilee Cloud"! Was this ever released as a single? I'm sure it would have charted. "Till I Can't Take It Anymore" and "Spirit In The Sky" are great uplifting numbers that do not disappoint. The rest of the album shows Carl stretching his vocal chops and interpretive skills with confidence and ease. The musicians and arrangements are pretty good;for the most part, they don't sound like they are merely clocking in their performances, they sound like they're having fun. I hate to drag out this hoary old statement but I feel it is true about this release as any other: The album "Carl Wayne" is very much an album of its time. It's a time capsule, an aural snapshot, a soundtrack for the moment. It's an album that won't scare your mother, nor your grandmother. I don't think this album was Carl's big artistic statement but it was a defining moment in his career. Kevin Kunreuther Dallas TX ********** Subject: Re: Thoughts on "Carl Wayne" CD Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:42:28 -0700 From: Lynn Hoskins Kevin wrote: >If you haven't got it yet, I have to tell you, this is not in any >way >anything like The Move, not even like "Something" or "This Time >Tomorrow". It's certainly not like Side 2 of "Shazam." :) I posted about "Jubilee Cloud" a while back - this is my favorite track on the album. I agree with you...it's a shame it wasn't released as a single. "Carl Wayne & Dusty Springfield." Yeah, it would have charted. Like you, I enjoy the uplifting numbers. I am behind in my postings, but in the "Move solo" post that I started, I wrote that I would like to see Carl release a gospel album. I don't know how popular gospel is in the UK, but he sure has the voice for it. How was this album received when it was released in '72? Roy's "Boulders" came out in '72, and that was also quite a departure from the "Shazam" era of The Move. Anyway, it's great that it came out on CD. If it hadn't, I never would have heard it. ********** Subject: Jeff Lynne co-produces final George Harrison album Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:04:27 -0700 From: Lynn Hoskins Many on this list are big Jeff Lynne fans who like to keep up with his post-Move career, so I thought I'd share some news that's been the talk of the ELO-Showdown list today. Here's the official press release, followed by the Billboard story. If you re-post or re-distribute the press release, please include "courtesy the ELO-Showdown list" in your source credit. OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE September 9, 2002 NEW GEORGE HARRISON STUDIO ALBUM RELEASED THIS NOVEMBER Dark Horse and EMI Recorded Music are proud to announce the release of Brainwashed, the long-awaited George Harrison studio album which he was working on up until two months before he died in 2001. Produced by George, Jeff Lynne and Dhani Harrison, the album features eleven new Harrison compositions and one cover. Brainwashed is the first release of new Harrison material since the 1987 multi-platinum album Cloud Nine. "Before we started working on the album, George and Dhani had collaborated extensively on pre-production," Jeff Lynne explains. "George would come round my house and he'd always have a new song with him. He would strum them on a guitar or ukulele. The songs just knocked me out." Dhani and Jeff Lynne spent much of this year completing the final work on the album. "George constantly talked about how he wanted the album to sound," Jeff adds, "and there was always that spiritual energy that went into the lyrics as well as the music." David Munns, Vice Chairman of EMI Recorded Music said: "EMI is thrilled to have this new affiliation with Dark Horse. George Harrison is an absolutely legendary artist and this is an extraordinary record and a testament to his genius. We are proud to offer this album to the world." Brainwashed will be released on November 19th. ### http://www.billboard.com/billboard/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content _id=1671089 Final George Harrison Album Due In November The studio album former Beatles guitarist George Harrison was working on prior to his death last December will be released this fall. "Brainwashed," produced by Harrison and his son Dhani in tandem with Electric Light Orchestra principal Jeff Lynne, is due Nov. 19 via a new partnership between Harrison's own Dark Horse imprint and EMI. The set features 11 Harrison originals and an as-yet-unannounced cover. It will be his first new studio set since 1987's "Cloud Nine," which featured the No. 1 hit "Got My Mind Set on You." "Before we started working on the album, George and Dhani had collaborated extensively on pre-production," Lynne said in a statement. "George would come round my house and he'd always have a new song with him. He would strum them on a guitar or ukulele. The songs just knocked me out. "George constantly talked about how he wanted the album to sound," Lynne continued, "and there was always that spiritual energy that went into the lyrics as well as the music." Harrison's original working title for the project was "Portrait of a Leg End." Traffic member Jim Capaldi and veteran session drummer Jim Keltner laid down backing tracks for the set, which is expected to feature such songs as "Valentine," "Pisces Fish," and the title cut, "Brainwashed," a caustic rock soliloquy about his former manager. "I need to get that last song out of my system," Harrison told late Billboard editor in chief Timothy White in 1999. "To have someone sit at your table with your family every night and then betray your trust is one of the worst experiences imaginable. Sometimes songwriting is the only way I can respond to the outside world, to exorcise its demons." As previously reported, Harrison collaborated with his son on one final song before his death, "Horse to the Water." The track appeared on bandleader Jools Holland's album, "Small World Big Band," bearing the forbidding copyright "R.I.P. Limited 2001." -- Jonathan Cohen, N.Y. End of Useless Information #388 ******************************* [This digest is the copyright of the Move "Useless Information" Mailing List. Re-publication or re-distribution of "Useless Information" content, in any form whatsoever, is expressly prohibited without prior written consent.]