From: no-spamRjunk@nospamRjunk.com Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro Subject: Lor beats Meeks (Machine beats Man Again!!) Date: 18 Jun 1997 17:46:20 GMT Organization: Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group Message-ID: <5o96tc$mcs$1@trotsky.cig.mot.com> In article <5o92hq$atm@news.orst.edu>, navarrer@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Roy Navarre) says: >In article , Jazzy J wrote: >>davem@proxy.vmark.com (Dave Meeks) writes: >>>Ed, give it a rest... You are, to put it mildly, just a flame happy dumbfuck >>>who has nothing better to do with his life than try and get into flame wars >>>with me... >>>Eat shit and die you boring fuck... > >> My god Dave... ever hear of a kill file? >> Jazzy J > >Dave either ain't aging gracefully, or the Jazz debacle has >left him a twisted, bitter shell of his former self. Finally, we have a winner! This could mean the end of the legendary netWAR. For those of you who don't know the real story, years ago two researchers (names kept anonymous) at Lucent's (then AT&T) Bell Labs had an argument over the capability of machines to understand human emotions and play with human emotions. So one of them set forth creating a machine (rumor says it was called Plan 0 initially) that is capable of arguing like a human being but still has the machine-like capability of storing totally useless data forever, and going in loops and iterations without losing intensity or interest. And he named it LOR (for the Start Trek fans out there - that's where Data's brother got his name from) and challenged the other researcher that it would break the most logical/patient human being and eventually suck his logic and patience away from him. They both agreed to use the then fledgling internet as their testbed. The other researcher (who believed in humans) chose a certain Dave Meeks - who he found to be a very articulate, patient, persistent, logical person who always had his facts straight - as the challenger for the human side. Obviously, they did not let Meeks know about it, but they programmed LOR to follow every Meeks posting on the internet and argue against anything he says. And so started the famed, netWAR. And this went on for days, weeks and years. Initial version of LOR could not handle arguing against facts. So it had to be upgraded. Even then it did not have the capability to argue like a human being. It had to be upgraded. So this went on for years, Meeks would prove his point to LOR (which BTW gave itself a first name), and LOR would be upgraded to be able to argue against it. Meeks would go away from the net due to his personal life, while LOR continued to scan the net for him. Meeks would eventually return and LOR would re-engage him in an argument - any argument. The world outside changed. The net itself grew beyond comprehension. But the WAR continued. LOR kept getting upgraded, Meeks was equal to the task. Over the years, no one could tell which side was winning, because no matter how convoluted/circular/irrelevant the argument from LOR's side was Meeks would continue to respond and hold his end. And FINALLY, now, just a few weeks after Deep-Blue beat the world's best chess player, LOR claimed another victory for the machines. Meeks finally down to this level of argument and response! >The old Dave Meeks would have lept into the fray using logic. >Say...how do we know this is really Dave Meeks? How do we know >that was really Karl Malone? I mean they can clone sheep now >right? And somebody please find those researchers with Lucent (or did they forget about their experiment with all the restructing there) and tell them to end this. Either Meeks has gone over the bend or is letting his 12 year old neigbor's son to do the arguments for him. Either way it is a victory for LOR and we all salute Meeks for fighting valiantly for the human side for so long. ps: obviously with a ;), and apologies to Ed/Dave if they are offended. -- ramana e-mail: devarpll at cig dot mot dot com --