"xed_over","Why do only the white stones break?","2009-03-22 16:16:52","Except for my Ing set, I only have standard (Japanese/Korean) glass stones. \ \ They've been dropped (and yes, even thrown by angry teenagers who know just how to hurt their go playing dad when they're mad at him). \ \ But it seems that only the white ones break. So far, I've never had a broken black stone (though I have seen them at the club, so I know they exist) \ \ I can't stand having broken stones in my set, nor can I stand not having at least 180 of each, so in the past I've bought additional replacement stones (usually from Samarkand - too bad she's quit retail, I need more replacements now) \ \ Also, I usually just throw away the broken ones, but after seeing the other recent thread about the stones aokun was giving away, I'm wondering if I shouldn't just start saving all my broken ones till I have enough to give away to poorer clubs/individuals who don't have any at all." "pwaldron","","2009-03-22 17:39:05","I blame the fact that the white stones have a much smoother polish than black stones. I always imagine the white stones sliding past each other gracefully while the black stones end up grinding and chipping." "Wasiqi","","2009-03-22 17:59:45","Hearing that your stones are damaged out of anger makes me sad. :( \ \ Maybe the composition of the glass is different for black \"stones\", thus making them more resistant?" "Tom_Waits","","2009-03-22 19:26:14","i notaced the same thing with my Yunzi stones. A few of the white ones broke and one has the gnarly break down the middle and looks like it could go at any time. But not a one of the black stones has broken" "hman","","2009-03-23 01:04:59","[QUOTE=Tom_Waits]i notaced the same thing with my Yunzi stones. A few of the white ones broke and one has the gnarly break down the middle and looks like it could go at any time. But not a one of the black stones has broken[/QUOTE] \ \ Might just be chance of production. My new Yunzi had quite some broken black ones, but not even one white broken stone." "simpkin","","2009-03-23 08:53:31","[QUOTE=xed_over]Except for my Ing set, I only have standard (Japanese/Korean) glass stones. \ \ They've been dropped (and yes, even thrown by angry teenagers who know just how to hurt their go playing dad when they're mad at him). \ \ But it seems that only the white ones break. So far, I've never had a broken black stone (though I have seen them at the club, so I know they exist)[/QUOTE] \ \ That's very strange. I find black ones break far more frequently - we have mostly Japanese glass ones at Durham - as well, of course, as getting lost far more often. \ \ (Sometimes they show up in very odd places. I was at a pub quiz last week and my team came second. Went up to collect our winnings; quizmaster tipped out the pot of money, and behold, a black Go stone. OK, we play in that pub regularly, so I understand how it had got found and put behind the bar for us by someone hoovering. That happens a lot. But why did they put it in the quiz-money-pot?)" "Sakata","","2009-03-23 10:21:23","[QUOTE=xed_over]Except for my Ing set, I only have standard (Japanese/Korean) glass stones. \ \ They've been dropped (and yes, even thrown by angry teenagers who know just how to hurt their go playing dad when they're mad at him). \ \ But it seems that only the white ones break. So far, I've never had a broken black stone (though I have seen them at the club, so I know they exist) \ \ I can't stand having broken stones in my set, nor can I stand not having at least 180 of each, so in the past I've bought additional replacement stones (usually from Samarkand - too bad she's quit retail, I need more replacements now) \ \ Also, I usually just throw away the broken ones, but after seeing the other recent thread about the stones aokun was giving away, I'm wondering if I shouldn't just start saving all my broken ones till I have enough to give away to poorer clubs/individuals who don't have any at all.[/QUOTE] \ \ It is a result of the white player having to play more aggresively. This causes him to slam the stones down in order to intimidate the opponent. This results in more hairline fractures and ultimate breakages." "snorri","","2009-03-23 13:09:10","[QUOTE=hman]Might just be chance of production. My new Yunzi had quite some broken black ones, but not even one white broken stone.[/QUOTE] \ \ Same here, with old yunzi." "snorri","","2009-03-23 13:11:59","[QUOTE=xed_over]Also, I usually just throw away the broken ones, but after seeing the other recent thread about the stones aokun was giving away, I'm wondering if I shouldn't just start saving all my broken ones till I have enough to give away to poorer clubs/individuals who don't have any at all.[/QUOTE] \ \ Be careful about that if they are glass. You don't want people to cut themselves, especially children. Maybe you should some of those nigh-unbreakable starch ones from YMI if you are wont to be hard on your stones." "Zahlman","","2009-03-23 13:27:30","[QUOTE=snorri]Maybe you should some of those nigh-unbreakable starch ones from YMI if you are wont to be hard on your stones.[/QUOTE] \ \ [b]starch[/b]? What?" "Andrea","","2009-03-24 02:16:36","[QUOTE=Zahlman][b]starch[/b]? What?[/QUOTE]Yes [URL=\"http://www.ymimports.com/Items/us-sf001-a?&caSKU=us-sf001-a&caTitle=Hi-tech%20Antibacterial%20Indestructible%20Single%20Convex%20Go%20Stones%20-%2022%20mm\"]starch[/URL]. I have no idea how they're made, or what they feel like." "daniel_the_smith","","2009-03-24 14:19:04","I've seen a set of those IRL. Sadly I thought they felt weird and were too light. \ \ But they are antibacterial and cheap at $10-- I think they'd be great for a school club or something." "BaghwanB","","2009-03-24 14:32:34","We have 2 sets of them at my club. I kinda like them. They are light, but have a reasonable \"grip\". Not too slick but not rough either. And they are supposed to be able to take anything you can throw at them. \ \ On the original topic, I have seen (& still have) some broken black stones. My (now tired) joke on first seeing one was, \"Oh, there is that 1/2 point I keep hearing about!\". \ \ Bruce \"So the Riddler I ain't...\" Young" "Zahlman","","2009-03-24 16:30:42","[QUOTE=BaghwanB]On the original topic, I have seen (& still have) some broken black stones. My (now tired) joke on first seeing one was, \"Oh, there is that 1/2 point I keep hearing about!\".[/QUOTE] \ \ This makes an ideal token for Button go scoring, of course. :)" "Alakazam","","2009-03-25 17:02:54","White isn't strong enough \ \ [QUOTE=xed_over]Except for my Ing set, I only have standard (Japanese/Korean) glass stones. \ \ They've been dropped (and yes, even thrown by angry teenagers who know just how to hurt their go playing dad when they're mad at him). \ \ But it seems that only the white ones break. So far, I've never had a broken black stone (though I have seen them at the club, so I know they exist) \ \ I can't stand having broken stones in my set, nor can I stand not having at least 180 of each, so in the past I've bought additional replacement stones (usually from Samarkand - too bad she's quit retail, I need more replacements now) \ \ Also, I usually just throw away the broken ones, but after seeing the other recent thread about the stones aokun was giving away, I'm wondering if I shouldn't just start saving all my broken ones till I have enough to give away to poorer clubs/individuals who don't have any at all.[/QUOTE]"