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I wonder what the largest Crookes Radiometer has ever been made.

How many watts could be generated if one would succesively link 50= 0-1000 Crookes Black/White wheels to a thin driveshaft inside a large v= accum.

Enough to turn some magnets and trickle charge a battery I would imagin= e.

Regards,

Glenn

-------------------------------1105036607-- From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Wed Jan 12 00:40:07 2005 Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:smartlst@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0C8duR2028868; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:39:56 -0800 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j0C8dmRh028818; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:39:48 -0800 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:39:48 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <111.40fc4cde.2f0edf3f@aol.com> References: <111.40fc4cde.2f0edf3f@aol.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-510490863 Message-Id: <9B1B6660-6475-11D9-852D-00039390737A@sympatico.ca> From: Sayyad Glassford Subject: Re: [FG]: Free Radiant Energy from Crookes Radiometer Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:40:25 -0500 To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/25349 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Status: O X-Status: --Apple-Mail-4-510490863 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Wasn't there a movie a while back that had a desert planet's=20 electricity being provided by radiometer generators? I'd think that if=20= it could be done on earth it would have been by now. Perhaps it'd be practical in space where there is already a very large=20= vacuum and there is a lot more radiation. They could be made from=20 inexpensive and light plastics instead of fragile and relatively heavy=20= glass for cheap and simple (maybe automatic) deployment. I'd certainly spend some time playing with radiometers and generators=20 if I had the capacity to produce a decent vacuum, you never know what=20 you might discover. On 6-Jan-05, at 1:36 PM, Videotextarchive@aol.com wrote: > =A0 > =A0 > I wonder what the largest Crookes Radiometer=A0has ever been made. > =A0 > How many watts could be=A0generated if one would succesively link=20 > 500-1000 Crookes Black/White wheels to a thin=A0driveshaft inside a=20 > large vaccum. > =A0 > Enough to turn some magnets and trickle charge a battery I would=20 > imagine. > =A0 > =A0 > Regards, > Glenn =20 =20= --Apple-Mail-4-510490863 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wasn't there a movie a while back that had a desert planet's electricity being provided by radiometer generators? I'd think that if it could be done on earth it would have been by now.=20 Perhaps it'd be practical in space where there is already a very large vacuum and there is a lot more radiation. They could be made from inexpensive and light plastics instead of fragile and relatively heavy glass for cheap and simple (maybe automatic) deployment.=20 I'd certainly spend some time playing with radiometers and generators if I had the capacity to produce a decent vacuum, you never know what you might discover. On 6-Jan-05, at 1:36 PM, Videotextarchive@aol.com wrote: = Arial=A0<= /fontfamily> = Arial=A0 ArialI wonder what the largest Crookes Radiometer=A0has ever been = made. = Arial=A0 ArialHow many watts could be=A0generated if one would succesively link 500-1000 Crookes Black/White wheels to a thin=A0driveshaft inside a large = vaccum. = Arial=A0 ArialEnough to turn some magnets and trickle charge a battery I would = imagine. = Arial=A0 = Arial=A0 = ArialRegards, = ArialGlenn =20= --Apple-Mail-4-510490863-- From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Sat Jan 15 10:58:07 2005 Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:smartlst@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0FIvsaQ002310; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:57:55 -0800 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j0FIvjYh002223; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:57:45 -0800 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:57:45 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com using -f Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=4FP6Arg6ut2IyLaaG981rwHFDF1C6STYvzEMlOBSLjH13H5/+5RQ/Dj/8SP7qUe9B4nIOFkghg5Hj7NXt1jX4nMTqZ8hpQaUdMes5SeR2X8QpX+vsQr0ENVznHjYoqp4K83cgqDGVmj+B0G7wwMSu1L+DWOWNmVczAs7+0cXqcQ= ; Message-ID: <20050115185738.65189.qmail@web52707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:57:38 -0800 (PST) From: E S Subject: Re: [FG]: Free Radiant Energy from Crookes Radiometer To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com In-Reply-To: <9B1B6660-6475-11D9-852D-00039390737A@sympatico.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1814594736-1105815458=:60798" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/25350 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Status: O X-Status: --0-1814594736-1105815458=:60798 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey, Yes indeed there was such a movie, it was called "Pitch Black" and was actually pretty good considering it had a small budget and the fact that Vin Diesel was in it! Take Care, Ed Sayyad Glassford wrote: Wasn't there a movie a while back that had a desert planet's electricity being provided by radiometer generators? --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. --0-1814594736-1105815458=:60798 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Hey,

Yes indeed there was such a movie, it was called "Pitch Black" and was actually pretty good considering it had a small budget and the fact that Vin Diesel was in it!

Take Care,

Ed

Sayyad Glassford <sayyad@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Wasn't there a movie a while back that had a desert planet's
electricity being provided by radiometer generators?

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Manage less. --0-1814594736-1105815458=:60798-- From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Fri Jan 28 10:58:15 2005 Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:smartlst@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0SIvk1H012651; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:57:47 -0800 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j0SIvRV2012500; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:57:27 -0800 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:57:27 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com using -f Message-ID: From: R.O.Cornwall@brighton.ac.uk To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:57:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain X-UoB-Sender: R.O.Cornwall@brighton.ac.uk Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/25341 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Subject: [FG]: Superluminal updated a bit Status: O X-Status: Freenrg, A bit better in the light of some comments now. http://luna.brighton.ac.uk/~roc1/index.htm Just follow links. 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From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Sun Jan 30 16:56:57 2005 Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:smartlst@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0V0uaZj001568; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 16:56:36 -0800 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j0V0uOVQ001465; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 16:56:24 -0800 Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 16:56:23 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com using -f Message-ID: <1574.24.229.238.51.1107132972.squirrel@webmail.chilitech.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:56:12 -0500 (EST) From: enki@chilitech.net To: H2Opower@topica.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <0o9TLB.A.nW.2IY_BB@ultra5.eskimo.com> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/25342 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Subject: [FG]: Status: O X-Status: The Hydrogen News # 27 In this issue: Story# 1 Team sets out to circle the globe in H2 powered boat Story # 2 Venture cap money available for H2 R&D Story # 4 Guantanimo goes green Story #39 More free software Story # 40 It is so warm in Russia this winter that the bears can't sleep.... My Story: Damien's Machine -------------Notice------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Hydrogen News is a free publication but if anyone would like to slip a couple of bucks my way to help with buying equipment to further my research I would appreciate it. I now have a Pay-Pal "Donate" button on my blog and my website for this purpose. Blog: http://enki.tblog.com Website: http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damien's Machine By Mike Johnston Copyright 2005 Intriguing title, isn't it? You know where it comes from, right? If not let me refresh your memory; in the book/movie The Omen 3, Damien Thorn (the Antichrist) develops a new source of free energy which is assumed to be for the purpose of leading the uneducated and morally bankrupt masses of the world into damnation. Not really a ringing endorsement of alternative energy is it? I guess that is why the movie annoyed me when it came out (70's?). I suppose that "inevitable doom" interpretation of the book of Revelation means that God wants us to go on using fossil fuels until they either run out or we all die from the consequences of using them. Or maybe it assumes that we must, to fulfill Divine design, start building more nuclear power plants. After all, the goal of good folk everywhere should be to destroy the world that we all know and love in order to open the pathway for the triumphal return of Jesus Christ shouldn't it? But what about the Thorn Industries device itself? I don't think that the movie really went into describing how it was supposed to work but I do remember what it looked like. It was a low, factory type building which was situated right along the seashore. It had a large, metal ball above it which was supported by a cylindrical tower, sort of like a huge Van De Graff generator. It didn't mean anything to me at the time and still is only a fictional product of the writer's or filmmaker's imagination but the image stuck with me. As I describe my line of reasoning in this story you will see why the memory of that Satanic power plant resurfaced in my mind as I considered various ways to produce hydrogen from water in more efficient ways and how that plant might be adapted to become one possible incarnation of the particular method that I am going to describe for you here (besides it made a great title). First off let's have a look at the fictional power source and see if we can identify the key components which would be involved in it's operation as best we can from the above description. There is the Van De Graff ball above the plant, that could be taken to represent a high voltage power supply. Or if you wanted to be a bit more specific you could say a high voltage, electrostatic power source. Next is the proximity of the plant to water, the ocean. From that we could surmise that water is another component of this (hypothetical) free power source. Since the ocean is salty (NaCl is an electrolyte), we might also assume that water with an electrolyte is a major component. From those two ingredients we could make some fairly realistic projections about how the system might have been able to work. Obviously using electricity and water with an electrolyte we can produce hydrogen fuel and so perhaps hydrogen was the intended result of this system? But it takes energy to produce hydrogen from water so how could this be a "free" energy system? On the other hand it takes more energy to turn a windmill than is produced by the generator that is attached to it and so how could that provide usable energy? Simple, it just depends on where you get your primary energy from. If you can find a source of energy which already exists in the environment (such as wind) then use that energy to generate electricity (as in the case of a windmill) or to split water and store the resulting hydrogen gas for later use then such a system becomes quite viable. Next we should have a look at our planet and see if we can identify such a source of energy. I will outline two here that aren't being discussed too much in the mainstream press (or anywhere else for that matter). There are other embodiments of these sources but I won't go into those yet as I may want to try to make a buck or two off one of them. The Earth is part of a larger system and the energy of this system is supplied (by and large) by the Sun. The charged particles leaving the sun and radiating out into space are called the Solar Wind. As these particles hit the upper atmosphere they cause this part of the atmosphere to become electrically charged and to form a plasma. This is the plasmasphere. As a result of this charging by the sun the plasmasphere has a certain electrical potential (charge). Way down below on the ground there is a different potential (charge). Between these two plates is the dielectric, the air. Of course there is water vapor in the air as well as the air itself being made of several different gasses so it is a mixed dielectric. So the difference in charge between these two points could be called a potential difference or voltage. In essence then the Earth is acting as a huge, spherical capacitor (http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~vawter/PhysicsNet/Topics/Capacitors/EarthCap.html). Those of us who live here on the ground are living on one plate of a fully charged electrical capacitor. Think about that, we live in a sea of invisible energy and we don't even realize it. I would like to inject here two points for your consideration which are not really related to the main topic of this article but are still worth thinking about. One is that, since the Earth is a capacitor and the air between the ground and the plasmasphere is the dielectric of this capacitor it is interesting to think about what might be the effects of any substantial changes in the composition of the dielectric. All dielectric substances have different levels of permeability. This determines how much of a potential difference is required to cause dielectric breakdown (when electric current is able to pass through the dielectric). If the air dielectric was to break down, for example, it might permit electrical current to flow directly between the Plasmasphere and the surface of the planet. Sort of like huge bolts of lightning of a type never before seen. I thought it was an interesting concept. Following that train of thought one has to think about how the atmosphere has been changed recently. We have seen the addition of many new substances to the atmosphere. Chloroflurocarbons were the first one that we decided could bring about substantial changes to a vital part of out atmosphere (the Ozone Layer). Now we are looking at Carbon Dioxide as the next pollutant which is present in large enough concentrations to change the composition of the atmosphere in general with rather negative consequences for life forms who a) breathe oxygen and b) like to live in somewhat moderate temperatures. What about water though? Burning fossil fuels creates water where no water existed before. It also takes oxygen out of the atmosphere and bonds it into this water that it creates as well as into CO2 gas that it also creates (CH4 +2O2 ----> CO2 + 2H2O). So the Earth has more water and free carbon dioxide today than it did 200 years ago and less oxygen due to the use of fossil fuels. Much of this water is injected directly into the atmosphere as steam from auto exhaust and jet aircraft exhaust. A recent study discovered water higher in the atmosphere than it was ever detected before (at the quantities measured). If this atmospheric water was pure H2O it would be just one more addition to the atmospheric dielectric but it isn't pure. Another pollutant created by burning fossil fuels is Sulfur Dioxide (SO2) which, when mixed with water, becomes Sulfuric Acid (H2SO4). So much of this new atmospheric water is acidulated by sulfuric acid. The most well known evidence of this is the acid rain which has been a problem for some time now. But another, less well known/discussed effect is that, by mixing a substance like sulfuric acid (which is an electrolyte) with water the resulting solution is no longer a dielectric, it becomes an electrical conductor. A very different situation indeed when you consider that by putting an electrical conductor higher and in greater concentrations in the insulating atmosphere than it has ever been before we are effectively decreasing the distance between the Plasmasphere plate of our planetary capacitor and the Ground plate. The closer two plates of a capacitor are the less dielectric that is between them and the less voltage that is required to cause dielectric breakdown and for current to flow directly between the two plates. What are the implications? I am not sure. As best as I can tell from asking a couple of climate change researchers no one is looking at these particular things in this way. I guess we will just have to wait and see. Back to my main topic though. We are living on one plate of a capacitor and we would like to find a way to use the energy of the capacitor that we live on to separate water and store the resulting H2 as a fuel. Ok, seems simple enough. What we need first is a way to collect this planetary energy and to direct it to flow between our point of collection and another point of lower electrical potential. In this pathway between these two points of different potential we will install our hydrogen producing mechanism so that current flows though it. What if we were to create a "capacitor within a capacitor"? Have a look at these pages before you read further as I will utilize concepts presented in them in this paper: (1) http://amasci.com/tesla/spark.html (2) http://www.amasci.com/amateur/whygnd.html These pages contain a good explanation of planetary electrical energy by Bill Beatty, an electrical engineer and acquaintance of mine. In the second paper referenced above in the 2nd through 5th paragraphs is a nice encapsulation of the framework for the first device proposed. Illustration: ( http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/damien1.JPG ) The illustration I prepared is rather simple and without doubt could probably use a lot of work to make it something viable but we have to start somewhere, don't we? At any rate, in it you see a wire which serves as the other capacitor plate (the ground being the first). This Capacitive Antenna is mounted on wooden poles 30' high and the antenna is 200' long. At that height we should be able to get several hundred volts of charge built up on the wire. That wire then runs to an electrolysis cell and from there to a ground stake. That way any charge that builds up on the wire will have to drain through our electrolysis cell to get to the ground. Of course while it passes through the electrolysis cell the current will produce H2 and O2 gas from the water. Electrolysis cells require a certain minimum voltage to operate, depending on the electrolyte used (usually 2 volts or less) and until this minimum voltage build up on the wire the cell will act like a capacitor itself. Once sufficient charge builds up the cell will act as a conductor and drain away the excess charge. An engineer might make many beneficial modifications to such a system. Such modifications might include using the antenna wire as a high voltage source and pulsing the DC charge by installing an oscillator or some such electronic component and then use a transformer to convert the high voltage low current of the antenna to low voltage high current on it's secondary as the current level not the voltage is what determines how much H2 is produced in an electrolysis cell. That is probably the simplest free hydrogen system that I can show you and it is a working embodiment of the Damien device from the movie. Cool, ain't it? Another way to produce a more or less permanent voltage from naturally occurring conditions on the Earth, still using the ocean as a critical component, would be to use the ocean itself. You see the salinity of the water in the ocean is not at a constant level throughout. In deeper water there is a higher concentration of salt than there is in shallow water or in bays where a lot of fresh water is entering the ocean and diluting it's salinity. Why is this important? As I pointed out earlier salt is an electrolyte. This means that when it is placed in water salt splits into electrically charged pieces (ions) NaCL ----> Na+ + Cl- . The PH value of a solution which is familiar in that it shows whether a solution is acid or basic can also be used to determine the electrical charge of such a solution. The more ions present the higher the charge. If the negative ion has the higher charge the solution is acidic and if the positive ion has the higher charge it is positively charged. One can say that is all well and good but because there are an equal number of positive and negative ions in a solution then the solution overall is electrically neutral. You would be correct BUT if you compare two different containers of water with different concentrations of the same electrolyte in them (such as salt), even though both solutions are electrically neutral on an individual basis, one container has a significantly higher number of charged particles overall and because of this there is a measurable potential difference between those two containers or between different concentrations of salt at different depths in the ocean. This charge would probably be somewhat static though and some method of oscillating the charge between two or more plates of some inert metal (one at each depth desired) would probably be needed in order to make use of this permanent charge to separate water and produce H2 fuel. That isn't the point though, the point is that there are MANY sources of free electrical energy available to us naturally in the environment around us which could potentially be utilized to produce hydrogen fuel from water for us to use. H2 from water is a totally non-polluting energy source and it doesn't rob oxygen from the environment either or release CO2 or any other pollutant into the environment. Just based on that isn't H2 from water the fuel that we should be putting all our research efforts into? As I promised in the last H2 News I have tried to put together here a somewhat persuasive argument for the viability of two methods to produce free H2 from water. Hopefully the somewhat novel way of doing it (using Damien's Machine as an example) was at least slightly amusing. These methods are very simple to understand with no moving parts to wear out and would, if indeed they are possible, do wonders for the implementation of the Hydrogen Economy. Imagine that, no more buying heating oil for your home or gas for your car! No more pollution! And it is possible NOW, not in 20 years. As long as the Earth is here this will work because it uses the free energy that is provided by the planet itself. I love science. -END- ----------Advertisement------------------------------------------------------------------ E! Magazine is your source for cutting edge environmental news. https://www.kable.com/pub/enmg/subTrial.asp?src=QSA136 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hydrogen News Links: (1) AROUND the world on hydrogen Dubbing their endeavor The Hydrogen Expedition, Hilman and teammates are gearing up to circumnavigate the globe in a hydrogen-fuel-cell-powered boat. ... http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage1839.html ( Cool, cool, cool. ED.) 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Hmmmm, something fishy here. All you need is a solar electrolyzer and you will never buy gas again. ED.) (15) ENCAPSULATION of Molecular Hydrogen in Fullerene C 60 by Organic ... This process can be used to synthesize a fullerene C 60 encapsulating molecular hydrogen, which can be isolated as a pure product. ... http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/307/5707/238 (16) NANOMIX Receives Additional US Patent in Alternative Energy ... The system employs a combination of thermal insulation and an enclosure for the storage and controlled distribution of hydrogen as a high-energy fuel. ... http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050113/sfth030_1.html (17) INDUSTRY split over future of hybrid cars Split this week over which fuel efficient, lower emission, engines will prove to be the wave of the future - hybrid, clean diesel or hydrogen fuel cell. ... http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage1849.html (18) WATER, WATER EVERYWH ... HEY, WHERE'D THE WATER GO? Agriculture needs to start conserving water, badly http://grist.org/cgi-bin/forward.pl?forward_id=3989 ( Damn, now water will cost as much as gasoline. Guess I will be buying my water from EXXON soon. ED.) (19) CALIFORNIA'S Hydrogen Future: A Senate Briefing Transportation Studies will brief US senators and staffers on the future of fuel cell vehicles and California's pioneering efforts to build a hydrogen economy. ... http://www.news.ucdavis.edu/search/news_detail.lasso?id=7250 (20) Home-Made Biofuels Are Best - UK Green Groups http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/29052/story.htm (21) WAY cleared for start of hydrogen pipeline A proposed 12-inch hydrogen gas pipeline in Lucas County (Ohio) received approval yesterday from the Ohio Power Siting Board, clearing the way for ... http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050111/BUSINESS06/501110413 ( Distributing the H2 for those fuel cell buses that aren't at all like the fuel cell cars you can't buy yet, unless you buy them from Honda. ED.) (22) Green Energy Resources Shareholder Update for 2004-2005 http://www.enn.com/press.html?id=69 (23) UK Hydrogen Energy Strategic Framework -- Analysis (December 2004 ...) The key message from the analysis is that for the UK, the use of hydrogen as a transport fuel offers significant opportunities for cost-competitive CO2 ... http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage1825.html (24) HOW high oil prices can be green Sustained oil prices are also driving the development of the next generation of vehicle engine, the hydrogen fuel cell. http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=17853&cat_id=9 ( As well as record profits for the oil companies. I could also tell you why it is good for the profitability of a company to keep the wages of workers like you as low as is possible and to eliminate such frivolous perks as health insurance and pensions. You understand that right? It is good for the overall economy for you and millions of others like you to live in poverty. That is simply the truth. The more a company can lower it's costs the more profitable it is and the more profitable it is the more money it can spend on $100,000 wedding gowns and $40,000,000 coronation parties. Thanks America, now get back to work, Daddy needs a new Lamborghini. ED.) (25) STARK has what it takes It would rely on nonpolluting "clean-coal" technology to extract hydrogen from coal and use the hydrogen to make electricity in fuel cells or gas turbines. ... http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?Category=3&ID=202195&r=0 (Remember friends, in "Clean Coal" technologies most or all of the H2 produced comes from the water used, NOT the Coal. ED.) (26) White House, Pentagon, Industry Secretly Colluded To Skew National Academy Of Sciences Perchlorate Report, Documents Show http://www.enn.com/aff.html?id=314 (Is this a surprise? It's ok though Republicans can do no wrong.Wait till you guys retire and get your first Social Security check. hehehehehe ED.) (27) HYBRIDS and hydrogen rule The most dramatic fuel-cell news, visually at least, comes from GM, which has rolled out a crossover concept called Sequel, powered by a hydrogen fuel cell. ... http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1105614487714&call_pageid=970599119419 (28) Rising Seas Threaten Islands, Cities, Coasts It sounds insignificant alongside the Indian Ocean tsunami, yet an almost imperceptible annual rise in the world's oceans may pose a huge threat to ports, coasts and islands by 2100. http://www.enn.com/today.html?id=6908 ( Luckily though there is no such thing as global warming/climate change. "W" says so and we all know what a genius he is.ED.) (29) JAPAN proposes huge cuts in emissions By 2100, most energy consumption will be met by renewable energy sources such as nuclear power, hydrogen energy and solar energy. ... http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story.asp?StoryId=CqEsU0eidAMfWyw4Tzw5LCMD5Cg9SAwn5 (30) Toyota Europe Aims to Sell 20,000 Prius Hybrids in Europe http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/29066/story.htm ( No doubt they will too. Europeans are just such damn tree huggers, aren't they? Just remember Europe, the jet stream flows west to east.ED.) (31) Powerful Storm Kills Three in Britain http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/28970/story.htm (32) Sustainability must be in hearts and minds of government Sustainability urgently needs to be put at the heart of all government policies, a report by the Sustainable Development Commission (SDC) has stated. http://www.edie.net/news/news_story.asp?id=9401&channel=1 (33) Top global scientific minds meet to study climate change Top scientists from the UK and Japan have joined forces to create a super-technology for predicting climate change in the 21st Century. http://www.edie.net/news/news_story.asp?id=9389&channel=6 (34) Canadian Researcher Invents New Solar Cell http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/28991/story.htm (35) Fossil Fuel Curbs May Speed Global Warming http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/28964/story.htm (36) Spain's Gamesa to Build Wind Power Plant in US http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/29068/story.htm ( At least somebody is. ED.) (37) The Changing Arctic: Indigenous Perspectives http://www.enn.com/aff.html?id=318 ( Get it? Keyword: Changing. THe Earth today is not like it was within human memory. Period. The government can only pull their Ostrich act for so long. ED.) (38) Svalbard's Marine Mammals in a Warmer, Wetter, Wilder Arctic http://www.enn.com/aff.html?id=321 ( No climate change, no climate change, no climate change....is it gone yet? ED.) (39) Free Sustainable Transport Advice for SMEs TransportEnergy BestPractice introduces new training CD-Rom for business advisers and trainers http://www.edie.net/news/news_story.asp?id=9379&channel=6 (40) Warm Russian Winter Drives Bears Out of Bed http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/28960/story.htm ( Bad bears! Back to hibernation! There is NO GLOBAL WARMING!!!! Please, someone, shoot those damn bears and hide the carcasses, ALL IS WELL! ED.) 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From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Thu Feb 24 16:35:54 2005 Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:smartlst@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1P0ZNcB025196; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:35:23 -0800 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j1P0ZJvc025167; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:35:19 -0800 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:35:18 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com using -f Message-ID: <2035.70.23.104.79.1109291706.squirrel@webmail.chilitech.net> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 19:35:06 -0500 (EST) From: enki@chilitech.net To: h2opower@topica.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/25343 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Subject: [FG]: Status: O X-Status: The Hydrogen News # 28 In this issue: Story #2 National Security to Lead Renewable Energy Deployment Story # 16 Experts: Global Warming Is Real Story # 22 Horrors of Global Warming Highlighted Story # 25 Global Warming Bill Means Thousands of New Jobs Story # 31 It's much too late to sweat global warming, Time to prepare for inevitable effects of our ill-fated future My story on water based transistors Story from guest writer Eric Kreig of phact.org Lots of other Climate Change stories -------------Notice------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Hydrogen News is a free publication but if anyone would like to slip a couple of bucks my way to help with buying equipment to further my research I would appreciate it. I now have a Pay-Pal "Donate" button on my blog and my website for this purpose. Blog: http:enki.tblog.com Website: http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Future Is Now To say that the hold that human civilization has on this planet is a fragile and tenuous one seems untrue in these days of talk of life extention to one thousand years or more and unlimited capitalist expansion and growth through globalization. Yet in this past year, with the Tsunami, we have seen just how fast that natural conditions on the Earth can align themselves together to bring about a scale of human destruction so profound as to be nearly indescribable and yet at the same time spare the lives of most of the animals and plants of the area. At the same time we have read stories about Climate Change and how grass is growing in Antarctica, Russian bears who can't sleep, fish and animal species that are moving into areas where they never lived before to take advantage of new temperatures and seen the damage caused by the melting of the Permafrost in the Arctic. With the recent passing of the Kyoto Treaty there is now a glut of climate change stories in the news and this issue will be filled with many of those links. Stories with such attention grabbing titles as ;"A Glimpse of Hell", "Global Warming is Real"and "Food Scarcity Predicted" are just the tip of the iceberg. With those stories in mind, after stocking up on shotgun shells and bottled water, I remembered the words to a song by Bob Seger and I think you will agree that the lyrics to that song are sort of prescient in regard to this issue. In Your Time By Bob Seger In your time the innocence will fall away In your time the mission bells will toll All along the corridors and riverbeds They'll be signs.....In your time Towering waves will crash across your southern capes massive storms will reach your eastern shores Fields of green will tumble through your summer days, by design, In your time Feel the wind and set yourself the bolder course Keep your heart as open as a shrine You'll sail the perfect line and after all the dead ends and the lessons learned after all the stars have turned to stone There'll be peace,..... across the great unbroken void all benign.......in your time You'll be fine,.... in your time. ******************************************************************************** Here is the article by guest writer Eric Kreig: Pseudo-Science claims about Hydrogen By Eric the skeptic For every real area of science is a whole underworld of falsehood. Particularly with cutting edge science and particularly on the internet, one can find a wealth of exciting – yet WRONG claims. Such misinformation is spawned by a triumvirate of self-taught idiots, wide-eyed lunatics and by con men. For any advocate of a hydrogen future comes the unfortunate public service responsibility of debunking myths about hydrogen. One of the most pernicious hydrogen urban legends is that of "Browns Gas". Don't snicker. It is only a stoichemetrc ratio of hydrogen and oxygen – it was known of long before a nut named Yull Brown claimed to invent it. I provide a web page on information and misinformation on the subject at HYPERLINK "http://www.phact.org/e/bgas.htm"www.phact.org/e/bgas.htm For sake of space a quick summary of false claims about it include: * It can heal sickness. * It can render radioactive materials safe. * You can get more energy out of burning it than it takes to separate it. * It implodes rather than explodes and is perfectly safe. * You can safely pressurize it. ****************************************************************************************** Water Based Transistors By Mike Johnston Copyright 2005 A few issues back I looked at how you could create water based electronic components. In that story I mentioned that I hadn't been able to figure out how to build a water based tansistor. Now I have. Not exactly what I thought one would look like and perhaps not exactly what it is but I think calling it a transistor is a reasonably good description of it's form and function (click here for a description of how transistors work: http://www.amasci.com/amateur/transis.html ) In essence a transistor allows a small electrical current to control a large current. In the case of the concept that I am going to lay out for you here you could think of it as a small electrical current controlling a large electrochemical current. Remember that the larger the current in an electrolysis cell the more H2 that is produced. In this water based transistor one of the main components will be an electrical plasma. So first off let's get a simple definition of a plasma; "A plasma is a gas in which an important fraction of the atoms is ionized, so that the electrons and ions are separately free." This ionization occurs when enough energy is present in the form of heat or electrical energy. You could say then that, in this respect, a container of water with electrolyte in it resembles a low energy, liquid state plasma since the atoms of electrolyte in the water are separated into ions.Interestingly enough the behavior of semiconducors is explained as Solid State Plasma. Some examples of plasmas are; the Solar Wind, the Earth's own Plasmasphere, Fluorescent Lights and welding arcs. For information on various types of plasmas go to: http://www.plasmas.org/basics.htm Plasma illustration: http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/plasma_d.gif For the sake of simplicity here I am going to condense things as much as I can. If you would like more in depth information on some of the things that I am going to mention I would suggest that you download the MIT course on Plasma (it is free to download) from: ( http://ocw.mit.edu/index.html ). MIT is doing some interesting work with plasmas in relation to hot fusion reactors. When a plasma is created between two metallic conductors via an electrical arc structres can form within the arc which are called plasma tubes. These tubes are created due to the way that the electrons and ions in the plasma interact with and are moved by the electromagnetic fields within the plasma. In the following illustrations you can see how charged particles move in a plasma and how they form "tubes". Figure 1: In this illustration you see particles forming their looping, vortex paths. http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/Figure1.bmp Figure 2: In this drawing you see the looping orbit of charged particles forming a tube around a magnetic field. http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/Figure2.bmp Figure 3: In this drawing you are introduced to Charge Separation within the plasma tubes. http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/Figures3.bmp Charge Separation is very interesting for the purpose of this paper. What happens is that the oppositely charged particles within a plasma tend to move to opposite sides of the plasma tube creating a positively charged side and a negatively charged side. Remember that this is true even though the overall plasma itself is still electrically neutral because there are an equal number of positively and negatively charged particles involved. In the next illustration you see two metal electrodes with an electrical arc between them. Note that the charged particles in this plasma arc are separated to opposite sides of the plasma. Figure 4 http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/Figure4.bmp If we were to create this electrical under water, or under water that contains an electrolyte an interesting potential seems to present itself. Figure 5 http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/Figure5.bmp The positive and negative ions in the water should be expected to be attracted to the side of the plasma tube which is charged oppositely to thier own charge. Figure 6 http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/Figure6.bmp In this last illustration we see that, once the oppositely charged ions are attracted to the sides of the plasma tube the potential exists for a transfer of electrons to take place across the plasma itself. The result would be that H2 gas would be formed on one side of the plasma and O2 gas on the other side. Why is this important? The result should be that, if we limit the current in the metal portion of the circuit,through the electrodes, that a plasma will still be formed with less energy consumed and that a second electrochemical current will be able to flow across the plasma. This second current could potentially be much larger than the electrical current which is being used to form the plasma. It would also allow more H2 to be produced overall than would be predicted based on the current through the electrodes and this has been noted by researchers who are trying to produce H2 with a plasma arc. I believe this "plasma transistor"model explains the source of that "excess" H2 within the realm of accepted science. ----------Advertisement------------------------------------------------------------------ E! Magazine is your source for cutting edge environmental news. https://www.kable.com/pub/enmg/subTrial.asp?src=QSA136 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hydrogen News Links: (1) Viva Hydrogen! Honda Leases Fuel Cell Vehicles to Las Vegas http://www.aiada.org/article.asp?id=32637 Honda is leasing a couple of their FCX hydrogen-powered vehicles to the City of Las Vegas, for $500 a month each. Las Vegas is going to have negligible fuel costs, as they’ll be refilling them at city-owned hydrogen "pumps". (2) National Security to Lead Renewable Energy Deployment http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/010305_energy_deployment.shtml In other words, the energy problem is so critical at this moment that we must start using what we've got now, whether it's perfected or not: whether it is sustainable or not. If we don't, then we lose everything anyway. At least this will start buying us a little time. (3) Cities Eye Ocean Waves for Power Supplies http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050213/bs_nm/bizwaves_dc_1 Since ancient times poets have revered the power of the seas. Now energy companies and coastal cities like New York and San Francisco are aiming to tap ocean waves and tidal currents as abundant sources of electricity. (4) Nanotubes crank out hydrogen: http://www.trnmag.com/Stories/2005/020905/Nanotubes_crank_out_hydrogen_Brief_020905.html Researchers from Pennsylvania State University have constructed a material made from titanium dioxide nanotubes that is 97 percent efficient at harvesting the ultraviolet portion of the sun's light and 6.8 percent efficient at extracting hydrogen from water. (5) Hydrogen fuel pioneer recalls the early days http://www.lamonitor.com/articles/2005/02/15/headline_news/news03.txt Hydrogen is one of those elusive halfway answers to the world's future fuel needs. Despite a lot of work that has already been done, hydrogen may always have to be qualified by the eternally romantic, ever-beckoning adjective - "promising." (6) Pennsylvania hands out grants to develop alternate fuels http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/stories/2005/02/14/daily6.html Pennsylvania environmental officials on Monday awarded more than $1 million in alternative fuel grants to help fund the purchase of hybrid vehicles and develop a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle. (7) Help Save the Planet http://www.grist.org/comments/soapbox/2005/02/16/gelbspan/ What on earth is a person supposed to do? History and nature are on a collision course. And we are trapped at ground zero. As the signals from the climate become excruciatingly urgent, the Bush administration turns its back on the challenge, the U.S. press remains in denial, and the environmental establishment agonizes over its own relevance. All the while, we are, as the British paper The Independent put it, sleepwalking into the Apocalypse. (8) Now for the Bad News: Spring is Early! http://solutions.synearth.net/2005/02/16 It is now mid-February, and already I have sown 11 species of vegetable.... (9) Micro Scooter : THIS SCOOTER'S NO POLLUTER http://scooternewsii.blogspot.com/2005/02/micro-scooter-this-scooters-no.html Enter the Aqwon, the first hydrogen-powered scooter to meet Germany's stringent regulatory standards. The Aqwon scooter can hit 30 m.p.h. with its two-stroke engine, but the biggest challenge was building a fuel tank that could safely store the hydrogen. In case of accident or fire, the Aqwon's tank simply freezes. If only the Hindenburg had had one of those. (10) Hydrogen And Wind Power Comparison Websites http://alt-energy.blogspot.com/2005/02/hydrogen-and-wind-power-comparison.html Even though we're experts choosing the most appropriate hydrogen and wind power comparison and alternative energy clothing domains can be ... more ... (11) Budget backs coal, hydrogen, nuclear http://article.wn.com/link/WNAT4281D18F96C544E3441835A00ECF1067?source=templategenerator&template=hydrogenguide/headlines.txt (12) Hydrogen fuel cell project at Princeton farm called world's first http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage2050.html Manure to H2 (13) Bush touts hydrogen power at future station http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/sfl-fbush19feb19,0,6553848.story?coll=sfla-news-florida (14) Hawaiian Climate Changing http://pesn.com/2005/02/16/6900063_Hawiian_Climate_Changing/ Island inhabitant recounts recent unprecedented pace of storms. Says Bush needs to rethink his response to Global Warming and take it more seriously. (15) Canadian alternative energy companies see opportunity in Kyoto agreement http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/cpress/20050213/ca_pr_on_bu/kyoto_opportunities_1 As the Kyoto treaty on greenhouse gas emissions comes into effect this week, Canadian alternative energy companies are seeing green of a different kind. (16) Experts: Global Warming Is Real http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,66651,00.html Studies that measure ocean temperature rather than air temperature are more accurate in determining whether the climate is changing, scientists say. And the newest studies conclude that the planet is warming up, and people are to blame for it. (17) King tide pummels Kiribati http://www.greenpeace.org/international_en/news/details?item_id=738870 Less than a week before the Kyoto Protocol enters into force, the tiny island nation of Kiribati is ravished by a 'king tide' -- an example of the kind of sea-level rise we can expect to see more of as global temperatures increase. (18) Kyoto Protocol becomes law http://www.greenpeace.org/international_en/news/details?item_id=744874 Greenpeace activists, supporters, and volunteers around the world celebrated the coming into force of the Kyoto Protocol with banners, windmills, actions against dirty power, and a shutdown of trading on the International Petroleum Exchange in London. After more than ten years of protracted - sometimes exhausting, often frustrating - negotiations, thirty-five industrialised countries along with the European Community are now legally bound to reduce or limit their greenhouse gas emissions. (19) Global warming may kill off polar bears http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=14&click_id=143&art_id=qw110707309025B214 Many Arctic animals, including polar bears and some seal species, could be extinct within 20 years... (20) China fears Everest is shrinking http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-01/31/content_413755.htm China is to re-measure the world's tallest peak, Mount Everest, because of fears it may be shrinking.... (21) Melting ice lets ship set record http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,12111454%255E401,00.html THE New Zealand crew of a polar research ship say it has ventured further south than any other ship... (22) Horrors of Global Warming Highlighted http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2005-02/03/article08.shtml The study pulls together for the first time the projected impacts on ecosystems and wildlife, food... Islam Online (23) Food Scarcity Predicted With Rising Temps http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/breaking_news/10809153.htm The combination of rising temperatures and falling water tables is likely to lead to a tightening... (24) Climate changes pose new challenges to coastal cities http://www.heralddemocrat.com/articles/2005/02/10/texas_news/iq_1742280.txt Coastal cities like Houston and London have instituted a variety of initiatives to reduce problems... (25) Global Warming Bill Means Thousands of New Jobs http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/0210-09.htm Major global warming legislation would add more than 800,000 new jobs in America by 2025 (26) NASA says 2005 may be warmest year yet http://abc.net.au/science/news/scitech/SciTechRepublish_1300451.htm A weak El Nino and human-made greenhouse gases could make 2005 the warmest year since records have been kept. (27) Rise in sea level threatens leading bird reserve http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/environment/story.jsp?story=610281 It is Britain's most spectacular bird reserve, with more breeding species than any other. (28) Great Barrier Reef 'dead in 20 years' http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0700world/tm_objectid=15182794&method=full&siteid=50082&headline=great-barrier-reef----dead-in-20-years--name_page.html In less that 20 years, rising sea temperatures caused by global warming could kill Australia's Great Barrier Reef (29) Climate change: Workshop ponders how to get people to care http://www.communitypapers.com/DAILYCOURIER/myarticles.asp?P=1079914&S=400&PubID=13720 Getting the average person to care about global climate change is a hard sell, a psychology expert... (30) A glimpse of hell http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=31&art_id=qw110820420172B216 Whether it unfolds quickly by fire or slowly through global warming, the future of this forested... (31) It's much too late to sweat global warming, Time to prepare for inevitable effects of our ill-fated future http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/02/13/INGP4B7GC91.DTL At the core of the global warming dilemma is a fact neither side of the debate likes to talk about:... (32) Villagers unaware of climate changes http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=16386 They said it (the climate changes) was the work of God which hit them," Mr Areki said. (33) Global warming hitting home in Auckland http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/SC0502/S00045.htm Global warming is starting to affect the lifestyle of Aucklanders. The problems the Huntly power... Scoop.co.nz (34) Melting glaciers indicate a warmer world to come http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2005/02/14/2003223048 Up and down the icy spine of South America, the glaciers are melting, the white mantle of the Andes... Taipei Times (35) Earth Gets A Warm Feeling All Over http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/02/050212195102.htm Last year was the fourth warmest year on average for our planet since the late 1800s, according to NASA scientists. (36) Global Warming Could Worsen U.S. Pollution http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20050219/sc_nm/environment_warming_dc Global warming could stifle cleansing summer winds across parts of the northern United States over the next 50 years and worsen air pollution, U.S. researchers said on Saturday. (37) Ocean, Arctic Studies Show Global Warming Is Real http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20050217/sc_nm/environment_climate_dc A parcel of studies looking at the oceans and melting Arctic ice leave no room for doubt that it is getting warmer, people are to blame, and the weather is going to suffer, climate experts said on Thursday. (38) Unfolding Story of Warming Planet http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050216/ap_on_sc/kyoto_protocol_chronology Key dates in the story of climate change (39) It's a Warmer World, But Does That Mean Armageddon? http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20050214/sc_nm/environment_warming_dc When bears wake early from hibernation, Australia suffers its worst drought in 100 years and multiple hurricanes hammer Florida should we believe The End is nigh? (40) Global warming may dry out Taiwan by 2035 http://english.www.gov.tw/index.jsp?id=13&recid=103656&viewdate=0 Taiwan will suffer from severe water and electricity shortages by 2035 because of global warming,... Taiwan Headlines Notice: For information on advertising rates or to make suggestions email me at: enki@chilitech.net All original material in this newsletter is assumed to be copyrighted by the source from which it originates. My stories are also copyrighted from the date they are published. 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Date: Monday & Tuesday, March 21 & 22, 2005 Place: Mobile, Alabama We are sorry, but at this time only business interests and news media are invited to the demonstration. For demonstration details, please contact: Joseph Nolfe, WAI President at (205) 835-9022 for exact directions to the demonstration. http://www.josephnewman.com "The Theory I propose may ... be called a Theory of the Electromagnetic Field because it has to do with the space in the neighborhood of the electric or magnetic bodies, AND IT MAY BE CALLED A DYNAMICAL THEORY, BECAUSE IT ASSUMES THAT IN THAT SPACE THERE IS MATTER IN MOTION, BY WHICH THE OBSERVED ELECTROMAGNETIC PHENOMENA ARE PRODUCED." --- JAMES CLERK MAXWELL --============_-1101713081==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" ********PRESS RELEASE: 03/09/05

The proceeds from this and other projects

will be used to help bring forward

the mass production of Joseph Newman's Energy Machine technology:

Wind Acceleration, Inc. (WAI)

announces a demonstration of an

ENERGY WIND DEVICE

FORTY TIMES MORE EFFICIENT

than conventional blade devices

occupying the same spatial area.

Date:

Monday & Tuesday, March 21 & 22, 2005

Place:

Mobile, Alabama

We are sorry, but at this time

only business interests and news media

are invited to the demonstration.

For demonstration details, please contact:

Joseph Nolfe, WAI President

at (205) 835-9022

for exact directions to the demonstration.

http://www.josephnewman.com

"The Theory I propose may ... be called a Theory of the Electromagnetic Field

because it has to do with the space in the neighborhood of the electric or magnetic bodies,

AND IT MAY BE CALLED A DYNAMICAL THEORY,

BECAUSE IT ASSUMES THAT IN THAT SPACE THERE IS MATTER IN MOTION,

BY WHICH THE OBSERVED ELECTROMAGNETIC PHENOMENA ARE PRODUCED."

--- JAMES CLERK MAXWELL

--============_-1101713081==_ma============-- From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Thu Mar 10 10:20:40 2005 Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:smartlst@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2AIJu98026929; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:19:57 -0800 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j2AIJqeW026857; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:19:52 -0800 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:19:50 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com using -f Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=hnzeXxZXcOvjhcwvylYy/DTYU+Zrgm30M4SK6hVFdJLJcRH3O+ulU/MgHZy5lvKoZIX9yjQV+AOw4A33KFBsJlzD+JkiUmP+0iJ5po9nb4tMK4kAs2/lr/ZpsoC+O528/3hHWOfZg7uVRCczRfH24pMm3Ra8w7RaGts7HyPrmDE= ; Message-ID: <20050310181932.89724.qmail@web51702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:19:31 -0800 (PST) From: jerry volland To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1149586715-1110478771=:87905" Resent-Message-ID: <_Y-YM.A.LjG.F_IMCB@ultra5.eskimo.com> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/25345 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Subject: [FG]: Status: O X-Status: --0-1149586715-1110478771=:87905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Field Energy When the term Field Energy is mentioned, magnetism and rf effects come readily to mind, since these kind of energies produce their surrounding fields. However, there's also a different kind of energy - referred to as Higher, or Raised, Energy - and this is the kind of energy, existing as a Field, which will likely be used for Field Propulsion. This kind of energy is produced when two different energy waves overlap, from the same direction, from opposing directions, or from some angle. When the energy which makes up the Field is in the visible spectrum, the Field Energy is noticably different than regular light in its appearance. This is something which allows the various effects to be characterised. A picture showing some of these effects is at: http://www.freewebs.com/attatchments/artifacts.htm Click on the image for an enlarged view and consider the assembly in the upper left part of the picture. It consists of a large spherical ornament positioned above the bottom of an aluminum can, with a couple of adjacent resmods. (Resmod is short for RESonant MODulus and this type of object is externally resonant, with a high Q.) The ornament is supported by the same type of grid tube used in the resmods, with the tube also supporting an "F" electrode made from copper foil with a dielectric glue on the inner surface. ("F" stands for Field, but it also referrs to the shape of the electrode with opposing plates.) This electrode also has a short horizontal flange on the right, or closed, side. This flange appears to be smeared out vertically, a photographic artifact which also appears in the orriginal Polaroid image. The picture shows three different types of Field Energy, identifiable by the colors red, blue, and white, with the red and blue being mixed and appearing as purple. The Field Energy is electro-optical, which means that it can be conducted as well as focused or radiated, so electro-optical energy components don't have to be physically connected. The source of the Energy is the camera's flash tube. The flash stays on for an interval which allows light from the reflector to be compared with more light which the tube gives off an instant later, towards the direction of the assembly, rather than the reflector. The reflection, along with the time delay, allows the two light beams - one reflected and one not - to combine out of phase, producing a Field potential. This Field potential becomes visible when it interacts with the resmod detectors. When the two beams are out of phase by 180 degrees the combined Field looks blue. When the phase delay is 90 degrees the combined Field looks red. And when all phase shift angles are added together the combined Field looks white. (The random phases are why the tops of clouds look white.) With the flash tube source, the phase shifts are random, so a little of each of these colors are produced in this manner, but the Field Energy components of the photo flash's light are discontinuous. Also, the Field Energy effects with this assembly, including the opacity, are minimal when only one resmod is used, so the Field coherence, and color seperation, occurs in the assembly itself. The reverse symetry relationship of the two resmod conductors allows the Higher Energy to seperate from the normal light which can only radiate. But an "L" shaped resmod assembly can also be useful, and should recieve further consideration, since the exciting energy is available in the background. Still, the double reflection in the spherical gradient produces the white on its own. One resmod is coplanar with the "F" electrode, which allows the resmod's axial projection to change directions. The power level of the Field Energy shown in the picture is low, but there's still a noticable interaction between the Field Energy and normal light reflected from the base board. This is why a round spot of white paint on the board looks triangular, at the left hand edge of the Field. The Field is weak enough that the background light can partially split the edge of the Field, but not very far in. This illustrates that Field Energy is opaque and suggests that this kind of energy can be used as a shield against electromagnetic radiation, including lasers and microwaves. Of equal importance is the way that the Field is projected out of the "F" channel, something which is caused by a property of the red energy which causes it to rotate around its own axis as it propagates. This causes the leading edge to stretch out beyond the distance normal light would travel in the same time. The red color is indicative of the length of the propagation's spiral, rather than the exact frequency which is propagating. This stretch out in itself doesn't establish a super luminal capability of mass which interacts with the fields, but such a capability may exist. The red energy also interacts with the blue energy, which has a quasi static property, which means that the blue energy has rotational eddies throughout the Field, perpendicular to the Field's plane. This quasi static property enables blue Field Energy to also interact with charged particles, causing them to accelerate, an effect which can be seen by placing a bent safety pin in a microwave oven, since the bidirectional Field in the oven is equivalent to blue energy, although at a much lower frequency, and the charge which builds up on the metal causes it to sputter off at the point. With a spark and a flame (from a chunck of cigarette pushed onto the safety pin), the plasmoid extends upwards in the micro wave oven, rolling perpendicular to the field. While it is rising, the lengthwise rolling is equivalent to a curl. Without the spark, normal flame which is supplied over an area will stretch out and go upwards really fast in pulses at random areas of the Field, although the nearby red energy's charge may be a required component and the flame looks dimmer than normal. Since the red pulls the blue out of the "F" channel, it can be taken that a Higher Energy Field will also block, attenuate, or extract coherent Field Energy. (The red plasmoid also pulls the quasi static energy out of a tubular electrode, even though the blue spark alone will not leave the tube.) Field Energy can also be produced with electrical sparks, with the right circuitry. As an example, when DC from a High Voltage capacitor collides head on with AC from a High Voltage transformer, the resultant spark puffs way up, turns milky blue, and becomes completely opaque throughout the discharge time of the capacitor's pulse through its non magnetic timing inductor. So the Radar Men might not be happy to see this kind of absorber shield used as a cloak. The same spark turns pure white when shocked through a super sonic nozzel such as a foil less electrode. (The effect looks exactly the same as NASA's new Scramjet.) And the same spark will turn bright red, and opaque, when a small amount of hydrocarbon is added, such as the oil in inscence smoke, possibly because the Polar mass of the plasmoid yields a phase shift, but this may be a spectral effect. It seems likely that projecting a chemically red spark through the Field Energy of a blue spark will accelerate the red spark's plasmoid mass. If it does (in the next experiment), this will allow the specific impulse of a chemical rocket to be increased by a factor of 100, a thousand, or maybe more. A rocket which will burn at full throttle for eight hundred minutes will allow a space ship returning to the earth to maintain a powered decent, and will provide quick access to the asteroids, Mars and the outter planets and ice crystals. So everyone can spend an hour and a half each way getting to work every day. And it's always possible that the chemical plasmoid can be left out, with momentum generation or squelching being due to relativistic effects of a color gradient from one side of a particle to the other, when the colors are regarded as pulsations of the right kind of energy. This might simulate the relativistic shrink gradient associated with normal inertia, due to doppler effects against the active vacuum. Ether, in its lighter form, is a type of multidirectional Higher Energy so the opaque spark and the spark-like light may provide an ether barrier, blocking the continuity of the local ether and the rebirth of a propagating wave. (The heavier ether is a virtual particle flux recognizable as the Chemical ether; with the right detector, the concentration of a specific element is independent of the overall flux density.) And perhaps an ether paddle component can be rigged up. With that, engineering factors might be the only limit to the thrust. Using Near Field effects, vacuum dielectric interactions with the Higher Energy would be coupled to the supporting mechanically activated antenna. I've seen atmospheric suspension of a longitudinal helix spinning as if on the tertiary level. JV "Puff" Spark circuit: http://www.escribe.com/science/freenrg/m17019.html Plasmoid Projector: http://www.escribe.com/science/freenrg/m17266.html elongated, longitudinal helix: http://www.escribe.com/science/keelynet/m4767.html tertiary coil example: http://l2.espacenet.com/dips/viewer?PN=US1119732&CY=ep&LG=en&DB=EPD Ion adaptable Phase Controller with non longitudinal helix: http://l2.espacenet.com/dips/viewer?PN=US2071517&CY=ep&LG=en&DB=EPD __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1149586715-1110478771=:87905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Field Energy

When the term Field Energy is mentioned, magnetism and rf effects come readily to mind, since these kind of energies produce their surrounding fields. However, there's also a different kind of energy - referred to as Higher, or Raised, Energy - and this is the kind of energy, existing as a Field, which will likely be used for Field Propulsion. This kind of energy is produced when two different energy waves overlap, from the same direction, from opposing directions, or from some angle.

When the energy which makes up the Field is in the visible spectrum, the Field Energy is noticably different than regular light in its appearance. This is something which allows the various effects to be characterised. A picture showing some of these effects is at:

http://www.freewebs.com/attatchments/artifacts.htm

Click on the image for an enlarged view and consider the assembly in the upper left part of the picture. It consists of a large spherical ornament positioned above the bottom of an aluminum can, with a couple of adjacent resmods. (Resmod is short for RESonant MODulus and this type of object is externally resonant, with a high Q.) The ornament is supported by the same type of grid tube used in the resmods, with the tube also supporting an "F" electrode made from copper foil with a dielectric glue on the inner surface. ("F" stands for Field, but it also referrs to the shape of the electrode with opposing plates.) This electrode also has a short horizontal flange on the right, or closed, side. This flange appears to be smeared out vertically, a photographic artifact which also appears in the orriginal Polaroid image.

The picture shows three different types of Field Energy, identifiable by the colors red, blue, and white, with the red and blue being mixed and appearing as purple. The Field Energy is electro-optical, which means that it can be conducted as well as focused or radiated, so electro-optical energy components don't have to be physically connected. The source of the Energy is the camera's flash tube. The flash stays on for an interval which allows light from the reflector to be compared with more light which the tube gives off an instant later, towards the direction of the assembly, rather than the reflector. The reflection, along with the time delay, allows the two light beams - one reflected and one not - to combine out of phase, producing a Field potential. This Field potential becomes visible when it interacts with the resmod detectors. When the two beams are out of phase by 180 degrees the combined Field looks blue. When the phase delay is 90 degrees the combined Field looks red. And when all phase shift angles are added together the combined Field looks white. (The random phases are why the tops of clouds look white.) With the flash tube source, the phase shifts are random, so a little of each of these colors are produced in this manner, but the Field Energy components of the photo flash's light are discontinuous. Also, the Field Energy effects with this assembly, including the opacity, are minimal when only one resmod is used, so the Field coherence, and color seperation, occurs in the assembly itself. The reverse symetry relationship of the two resmod conductors allows the Higher Energy to seperate from the normal light which can only radiate. But an "L" shaped resmod assembly can also be useful, and should recieve further consideration, since the exciting energy is available in the background. Still, the double reflection in the spherical gradient produces the white on its own. One resmod is coplanar with the "F" electrode, which allows the resmod's axial projection to change directions.

The power level of the Field Energy shown in the picture is low, but there's still a noticable interaction between the Field Energy and normal light reflected from the base board. This is why a round spot of white paint on the board looks triangular, at the left hand edge of the Field. The Field is weak enough that the background light can partially split the edge of the Field, but not very far in. This illustrates that Field Energy is opaque and suggests that this kind of energy can be used as a shield against electromagnetic radiation, including lasers and microwaves. Of equal importance is the way that the Field is projected out of the "F" channel, something which is caused by a property of the red energy which causes it to rotate around its own axis as it propagates. This causes the leading edge to stretch out beyond the distance normal light would travel in the same time. The red color is indicative of the length of the propagation's spiral, rather than the exact frequency which is propagating. This stretch out in itself doesn't establish a super luminal capability of mass which interacts with the fields, but such a capability may exist. The red energy also interacts with the blue energy, which has a quasi static property, which means that the blue energy has rotational eddies throughout the Field, perpendicular to the Field's plane. This quasi static property enables blue Field Energy to also interact with charged particles, causing them to accelerate, an effect which can be seen by placing a bent safety pin in a microwave oven, since the bidirectional Field in the oven is equivalent to blue energy, although at a much lower frequency, and the charge which builds up on the metal causes it to sputter off at the point. With a spark and a flame (from a chunck of cigarette pushed onto the safety pin), the plasmoid extends upwards in the micro wave oven, rolling perpendicular to the field. While it is rising, the lengthwise rolling is equivalent to a curl. Without the spark, normal flame which is supplied over an area will stretch out and go upwards really fast in pulses at random areas of the Field, although the nearby red energy's charge may be a required component and the flame looks dimmer than normal. Since the red pulls the blue out of the "F" channel, it can be taken that a Higher Energy Field will also block, attenuate, or extract coherent Field Energy. (The red plasmoid also pulls the quasi static energy out of a tubular electrode, even though the blue spark alone will not leave the tube.)

Field Energy can also be produced with electrical sparks, with the right circuitry. As an example, when DC from a High Voltage capacitor collides head on with AC from a High Voltage transformer, the resultant spark puffs way up, turns milky blue, and becomes completely opaque throughout the discharge time of the capacitor's pulse through its non magnetic timing inductor. So the Radar Men might not be happy to see this kind of absorber shield used as a cloak. The same spark turns pure white when shocked through a super sonic nozzel such as a foil less electrode. (The effect looks exactly the same as NASA's new Scramjet.) And the same spark will turn bright red, and opaque, when a small amount of hydrocarbon is added, such as the oil in inscence smoke, possibly because the Polar mass of the plasmoid yields a phase shift, but this may be a spectral effect. It seems likely that projecting a chemically red spark through the Field Energy of a blue spark will accelerate the red spark's plasmoid mass. If it does (in the next experiment), this will allow the specific impulse of a chemical rocket to be increased by a factor of 100, a thousand, or maybe more. A rocket which will burn at full throttle for eight hundred minutes will allow a space ship returning to the earth to maintain a powered decent, and will provide quick access to the asteroids, Mars and the outter planets and ice crystals. So everyone can spend an hour and a half each way getting to work every day. And it's always possible that the chemical plasmoid can be left out, with momentum generation or squelching being due to relativistic effects of a color gradient from one side of a particle to the other, when the colors are regarded as pulsations of the right kind of energy. This might simulate the relativistic shrink gradient associated with normal inertia, due to doppler effects against the active vacuum. Ether, in its lighter form, is a type of multidirectional Higher Energy so the opaque spark and the spark-like light may provide an ether barrier, blocking the continuity of the local ether and the rebirth of a propagating wave. (The heavier ether is a virtual particle flux recognizable as the Chemical ether; with the right detector, the concentration of a specific element is independent of the overall flux density.) And perhaps an ether paddle component can be rigged up. With that, engineering factors might be the only limit to the thrust. Using Near Field effects, vacuum dielectric interactions with the Higher Energy would be coupled to the supporting mechanically activated antenna. I've seen atmospheric suspension of a longitudinal helix spinning as if on the tertiary level.

"Puff" Spark circuit:

http://www.escribe.com/science/freenrg/m17019.html

Plasmoid Projector:

http://www.escribe.com/science/freenrg/m17266.html

elongated, longitudinal helix:

http://www.escribe.com/science/keelynet/m4767.html

tertiary coil example:

http://l2.espacenet.com/dips/viewer?PN=US1119732&CY=ep&LG=en&DB=EPD

Ion adaptable Phase Controller with non longitudinal helix:

http://l2.espacenet.com/dips/viewer?PN=US2071517&CY=ep&LG=en&DB=EPD

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Hi, Charlie.

Thanks for the note. I've been offline so long I forgot the correct syntax. Here's the link:

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Charles Ford <cjford1@swbell.net> wrote:

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Small Business - Try our new resources site! --0-1423380803-1110649025=:38129-- From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Sat Mar 12 10:19:16 2005 Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:smartlst@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2CIIoKO015326; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:18:50 -0800 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j2CIIjcH015297; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:18:45 -0800 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:18:45 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com using -f Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [70.32.75.8] X-Originating-Email: [badaddidude@msn.com] X-Sender: badaddidude@msn.com In-Reply-To: <20050312173705.38510.qmail@web51708.mail.yahoo.com> From: "M J Mitch Mitchell" To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [FG]: Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:18:37 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2005 18:18:37.0525 (UTC) FILETIME=[E8F51850:01C5272F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/25348 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Status: O X-Status: worked for me Charles Ford wrote: --- jerry volland wrote: > http://www.freewebs.com/attatchments/artifacts.htm Not found Charles Ford KC5-OWZ cjford1@yahoo.com cjford1@swbell.net To be absolutely sure you make it past the "SpamGuard" you can simply include my ham-radio callsign (above) somewhere in the message body. 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From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Wed Mar 16 22:36:04 2005 Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:smartlst@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2H6Za8E026834; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:35:36 -0800 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j2H6ZUlM026698; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:35:30 -0800 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:35:29 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.20050316233241.1c2fa57a@earthlink.net> X-Sender: ddameron@earthlink.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:32:41 To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com From: David Dameron In-Reply-To: <20050312173705.38510.qmail@web51708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <6667> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <9lnVkD.A.kgG.vUSOCB@ultra5.eskimo.com> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/25349 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Subject: [FG]: magnetic loop current calculations Status: O X-Status: There has been discussion of what effects there would be in a transformer if it became large compared to a wavelength. Normally one does not think of propagation delays in a transformer, but things like the change of magnetic flux, etc. However usually transformers are very small compared to a wavelength. If one was built "large", would it turn into an antenna, or is the "transformer" induction somehow different than "near field" antenna theory? Well I attempted to try it out, strung a horiz. rectangular loop in my rear yard and fed it with a 6MHz signal from a small transmitter. In the center was a small pickup coil or secondary that could be moved in position. I attempted to measure a phase shift (in addition to that from the coax cables). The large loop was about 30 feet on a side, about 9 meters, so the 4.5 meters to the center is about 33 deg. phase shift. (wavelength = 50 m). It turns out difficult to measure the phase shift with my scope (AC line wires and possibly the ground are affecting measurements, but it appears small. I also want to simulate it, does anyone know some simulations to calculate the current along the loop, that is deviations from constant current? I found this link: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/D.Jefferies/loop.html Alternatively, is there an easy way to measure the current along the large loop wire, say some sort of loop field-strength meter? Once I have a current distribution, I can easily calculate the B-Field and flux linking the receive loop, and compare to the signal I get. Thanks, Dave D. From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Thu Mar 17 08:35:04 2005 Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:smartlst@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2HGYfLn025394; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:34:42 -0800 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j2HGYdqU025376; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:34:39 -0800 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:34:39 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com using -f Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=ZK+JP0NtEdZ0Whlkti7VOGLC6jipvTiYNalMhFhGQ3COnSDP436QVsF45yVAmXAETAf7U1pQcjzzSLT04HWRiLjyRe900g/AwbuCHVD8pjn611qYWMR9A6ubbBWOofC/9VA/scA9QYyqjyN99sB6LlnDk/ZkgTAw9CspbtpRKmE= ; Message-ID: <20050317163432.34104.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:34:32 -0800 (PST) From: Harvey Norris Subject: Re: [FG]: magnetic loop current calculations To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/25350 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Status: O X-Status: --- David Dameron wrote: > There has been discussion of what effects there > would be in a transformer > if it became large compared to a wavelength. I have thought of this for years, but mental models,and mathemathematical models do not pan out as positive proof to other folks as to what is involved here, but quite a lot of evidence exists to support the thesis. What is this thesis? I call it the beginning of magic square technology, but as I indicate it won't be accepted until an actual model is built, because so much evidence only currently exists as scopings of resonant frequencies, and the relationship of the scope as a measuring instrument comes into question, as the internal capacity of that measuring instrument in turn influences the frequency that gets recorded. By now folks are probably shaking their heads and wondering what the heck I am driving at. So I will attempt to explain. In your example you use a very long length of wire, and a high frequency source, where according to the principles of radio, if the input frequency matches the natural resonant frequency of the loop, a standing wave is set up by predictions that the velocity of the electrical impulse, ie C, the speed of light, by computing the time period it takes to reach the end of the wire and equating that to 1/4 of the time period that an actual AC resonant frequency would have; we arrive at the well known quarter wave calculation. This calculation is often used in finding a tesla coil's primary C value, where we have the combination of LpCp which by resonant freq formula R(f)= 1/[2pi* sq rt{LC}]. In this scenario Lp can be known, and Cp is predicted by formula. The aim of this prediction is to make the primaries resonant frequency the same as the secondaries resonant frequency, which is given by the quarter wave calculation. But in the making of solenoidal secondary coils of larger height /diameter, (about 5) ratios, we find that the actual secondary vibration is about 50% faster, or higher in frequency then what the quarter wave calculation yeilds. It is as if C the light speed has increased in value. This is well known in the tesla coil building community, but what is not well known is that the reverse effect is what you need to employ to make more convenient experimentation on the ideas that are presented. What a multiwound coil does is add internal capacity between winds, and the addition of capacity, whether as internal capacity or another externally paired C value as used in a tesla primary circuit; the addition of capacity always reduces the vibration. I dont think the list supports attachments or I could show a scoping of ~700,000 hz obtained as the "natural electrical vibration" establihed by 100 ft of 1/8 inch flattened braided wire sold as MegaCable Speaker Wire, sold formed as dual sets of spiral winds, where the 1/8 inch width of the conductor establishes a significant internal capacity between winds when wound in this spiral fashion. The quarter wave value for 100 ft should be about 2.5 mghz, so here the internal capacity has reduced the quarter wave vibration over three fold. Another square coil of some 600 winds can be scope shown to reduce the standing wave vibration 13 fold. The improved performance of that zig zag spiral design is due to allowing equal influence for both the voltage difference between adjacent winds, AND the much higher voltage differences existing between layers, by the use of square conductors. In fact we come to understand that this coil construction method is only exploiting the creation of internal capacity on a one dimensional basis, and in fact if we instead wound this square array on a diagonal basis, then we could have higher relative voltage differences on both horizontal AND vertical voltage differences. In fact this kind of diagonal layering plan is exhibited by every group 1 magic square, having an odd no of sides. So from there we can actually state what the magic squares are good for. They contain the coding of wiring routes to establish a 4 sided conductor coil of the maximum possible internal capacity, which if this is applied to even squares divisible by 4, a fascinating possibility emerges. >From here then the conceptial problem becomes to make a device in reality where the generator actually sees a load where it could change AC polarity before the propagation speed of the impulse allows for its return, somewhat analogous to trapping electron movement within an oscillation, normally considered rediculous when that impulse is at light speed, but here special methods are made to reduce that speed by addition of internal capacity. As such here are some calculations formerly posted on a different list to show what would be required to take your same idea, but power it from an alternator inputing 500 hz. The repost may be repetive on this above theme... --- Tesla list wrote: > > Original poster: "Paul B. Brodie" > > > > > I know we all love big sparks but has anyone done > any serious research and > > tried to duplicate Tesla's claims of wireless > transmission of electric > > power? I would start with the study of lower frequency resonators since apparently the great problem is that resonant circuits in the 8 to 12 hz range are not easily buildable, so first we can study existing models and speculate from there what the requirements would be if the same circuit were to be lowered in frequency. I have a particular low frequency resonator that might be used as a model; where it exhibits a 30,000 hz resonance from 25-30pf scopings; but the coil is only a square succession of 20 zig zag spiral layers of 30 winds, for a total of 600 winds. The layering method is responsible for a certain amount of internal capacity in the multiwound coil where it is the voltage between layers that becomes predominant in the internal CV^2 term, and not the voltage between actual winds that makes little contribution. One mathematical model based on comparing a diagonal layering method for a 25 unit array compared to the conventional zig zag layering showed that the diagonally wound model would have almost 6 times more internal capacity, where if this were true the existing inductor using diagonal windings resonating at 30,000 hz would now resonate at 5,000 hz. Now this particular inductor already resonates 13 times slower then what quarter wave value estimations give, where each wind is only 20 inches in circumference. Supposing then the wire route change were able to accomplish a 5000 hz resonance, how far would I have to expand the circumference to match 500 hz from an alternator? Ten times the initial 20 inch per wind equals 200/12 = 16.6 ft per wind, or a diameter of only 5.3 ft. To model a further reduction down to 10 hz, this would be a 50 fold reduction yeiding 830 ft per wind, for a huge diameter coil of some 264 ft. Just some idle speculation of what a earth frequency resonant coil might look like... HDN Tesla Research Group; Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Thu Mar 17 15:23:08 2005 Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:smartlst@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2HNMktE031092; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:22:47 -0800 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j2HNMhlD031064; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:22:43 -0800 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:22:42 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com using -f Message-ID: <2622.70.23.18.186.1111101748.squirrel@webmail.chilitech.net> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:22:28 -0500 (EST) From: enki@chilitech.net To: h2opower@topica.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/25351 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Subject: [FG]: RE: The Hydrogen News Status: O X-Status: Dear Readers, I have decided to quit putting out the Hydrogen News as it has been. Instead I am switching to a strictly Blog oriented format with an RSS and Atom newsfeed. If anyone is interested in the latest hydrogen energy news I would ask you to monitor my blog. Blog Address: http://www.h2opower.blogspot.com Atom feed: http://www.h2opower.blogspot.com/atom.xml RSS Feed: http://www.tblog.com/rss.php?bid=enki Thank you all for your loyal readership and your many kind comments. Sincerely, Mike Johnston From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Thu Mar 17 16:06:54 2005 Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:smartlst@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2I06XtE021036; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:06:34 -0800 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j2I06Ts9020993; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:06:29 -0800 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:06:29 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <2622.70.23.18.186.1111101748.squirrel@webmail.chilitech.net> References: <2622.70.23.18.186.1111101748.squirrel@webmail.chilitech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Sayyad Glassford Subject: Re: [FG]: RE: The Hydrogen News Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:06:10 -0500 To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/25352 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Status: O X-Status: Hello Mike, message received, I'll bookmark the RSS link in Firefox for quick access. Thanks, Sayyad On 17-Mar-05, at 6:22 PM, enki@chilitech.net wrote: > Dear Readers, > > I have decided to quit putting out the Hydrogen News as it has been. > Instead I am switching to a strictly Blog oriented format with an RSS > and Atom newsfeed. If anyone is interested in the latest hydrogen > energy news I would ask you to monitor my blog. > > Blog Address: http://www.h2opower.blogspot.com > > Atom feed: http://www.h2opower.blogspot.com/atom.xml > > RSS Feed: http://www.tblog.com/rss.php?bid=enki > > Thank you all for your loyal readership and your many kind comments. > > Sincerely, > > Mike Johnston > From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Thu Mar 17 16:57:59 2005 Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:smartlst@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2I0vZcG011601; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:57:36 -0800 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j2I0v4qr011275; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:57:04 -0800 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:57:01 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com using -f From: bcherry@nixsys.bz To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:54:41 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050318005441.9A56B27B5A4@mail.nixsys.bz> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/25353 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Subject: [FG]: alt energy =?utf-8?B?PQ==?= social transformation? Status: O X-Status: Dear Alternative Energy Researchers, I am a student from Antioch college in Ohio and have worked with an independent physicist in Yellow Springs by the name of John Schnurer, who recommended that I contact you. Both John and I have collaborated on projects in thermoelectrics. I corresponded with Bill Beatty sometime ago about the subject of alternative energy technologies and why they are not implemented within society on a large scale. This is now the thesis question for my dissertation. More recently I have spoken with Eric Krieg and the technological means of using solar energy as a primary power source. I am interested in interviewing scientists, engineers and other researchers about the subject of alternative energy technologies and resources; the type of research they're engaged in, the scientific and economic feasibility and application of alt energy technologies etc. I am interested in both'hard' and 'soft' science in regards to alternative energy, especially the application of renewables such as solar energy and hydrogen. This includes people involved with 'free energy' technologies who are credible sources. I understand that this is quite a huge task. Any interested parties feel free to contact me by email or forward this email and/or post it on relevant listservs with my email. I appreciate your time. Cheers, Brett Cherry From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Fri Mar 25 08:35:02 2005 Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:smartlst@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2PGY9eW031519; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:34:10 -0800 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j2PGY6R7031484; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:34:06 -0800 Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:34:05 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: missy9871@spamarrest.com Message-Id: X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:33:45 -0600 To: freenrg-L@eskimo.com From: "JNPCo." Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1100354063==_ma============" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/25354 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Subject: [FG]: Status: O X-Status: --============_-1100354063==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" * * * * * Energy Machine Inventor Joseph W. Newman will hold a News Conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. 529 14th Street, NW on Monday, March 28, 1:00PM Lisagor Room * * * * * Joseph Newman will display/demonstrate his newest energy machine that is a quantum leap above his earlier energy machine technology. As the price of oil escalates, Joseph Newman's energy machine is an inexpensive, non-polluting electromagnetic source for the world's energy needs. This technology provides access to virtually unlimited energy that is abundant, inexpensive, and environmentally-friendly. The Newman energy machine is an electromagnetic motor that runs COOL (unlike ALL conventional motors) and harnesses the elemental forces of the universe in accordance with the 1st Law of Thermodynamics. The Newman energy machine will provide a stable and durable alternative to oil, gas, coal, and nuclear energy sources. This technology will power every automobile, home, appliance, farm, factory, ship, and plane at a FRACTION of the present cost of energy. A worldwide inexpensive energy source will have profound geopolitical implications for the Middle East. * * * * * See for yourself a new technology that will meet the future energy needs of humanity. * * * * * http://www.josephnewman.com Email: josephnewman@earthlink.net Contact: (205) 835-9022 [Joseph Nolfe, President & CEO, Newman Energy Corp.] The future of the human race may be dramatically uplifted by the large-scale, commercial development of this invention." --- Dr. Roger Hastings, Principal Physicist, UNISYS CORPORATION "If the manner in which Joseph Newman conducted his experiments and the results were made known to the industrial or engineering community then, in my opinion, several companies and/or individuals possess the expertise and capabilities to construct the hardware required to fully exploit the apparent capability of his new concepts." --- Dr. Robert E. Smith, Chief, Orbital and Space Environment Branch, George C. Marshall Space Flight Center, NASA "You have opened an area in Astrophysics which may revolutionize the magnetic energy problems which is now the most paramount problem in future energy and space travel. I do believe with proper research funds, the results would not only be a great financial boom to your financiers, but would lead to developments that will be practical and beneficial to all mankind and develop a new step in science." --- Dr. E. L. Moragne, MORAGNE RESEARCH & DEVELOPMENT CO. [Dr. Moragne was an electromagnetic pioneer in the development of the first atomic bomb.] * * * * * --============_-1100354063==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" ****NEWS CONFERENCE AT THE NATIONAL PRESS CLUB IN WASHINGT

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Energy Machine Inventor

Joseph W. Newman

will hold a

News Conference

at the

National Press Club in Washington, D.C.

529 14th Street, NW

Monday, March 28, 1:00PM

Lisagor Room

* * * * *

Joseph Newman will display/demonstrate his newest energy machine

that is a quantum leap above his earlier energy machine technology.

As the price of oil escalates, Joseph Newman's energy machine

is an inexpensive, non-polluting electromagnetic source for the world's energy needs.

This technology provides access to virtually unlimited energy that is

abundant, inexpensive, and environmentally-friendly.

The Newman energy machine is an electromagnetic motor that runs

COOL (unlike ALL conventional motors) and harnesses the

elemental forces of the universe in accordance

with the 1st Law of Thermodynamics.

The Newman energy machine will provide a stable and durable

alternative to oil, gas, coal, and nuclear energy sources.

This technology will power every automobile, home, appliance,

farm, factory, ship, and plane at a FRACTION of the present cost of energy.

A worldwide inexpensive energy source will have profound

geopolitical implications for the Middle East.

* * * * *

See for yourself a new technology that will meet the

future energy needs of humanity.

* * * * *

http://www.josephnewman.com

Email: josephnewman@earthlink.net

Contact:

(205) 835-9022 [Joseph Nolfe, President & CEO, Newman Energy Corp.]

The future of the human race may be dramatically uplifted by the large-scale,

commercial development of this invention."

--- Dr. Roger Hastings, Principal Physicist, UNISYS CORPORATION

"If the manner in which Joseph Newman conducted his experiments and the results

were made known to the industrial or engineering community then, in my opinion,

several companies and/or individuals possess the expertise and capabilities

to construct the hardware required to fully exploit the apparent capability of his new concepts."

--- Dr. Robert E. Smith, Chief, Orbital and Space Environment Branch,

George C. Marshall Space Flight Center, NASA

"You have opened an area in Astrophysics which may revolutionize the magnetic energy problems

which is now the most paramount problem in future energy and space travel.

I do believe with proper research funds, the results would not only be a great financial boom to your financiers,

but would lead to developments that will be practical and beneficial to all mankind and develop a new step in science."

--- Dr. E. L. Moragne, MORAGNE RESEARCH & DEVELOPMENT CO.

[Dr. Moragne was an electromagnetic pioneer in the development of the first atomic bomb.]

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--============_-1100354063==_ma============-- From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Mon Mar 28 02:26:31 2005 Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:smartlst@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2SAPeMm027186; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:25:41 -0800 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j2SAPQtU027125; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:25:26 -0800 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:25:25 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com using -f Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [62.103.139.111] X-Originating-Email: [poiuytrew_1@hotmail.com] X-Sender: poiuytrew_1@hotmail.com From: "G N" To: References: Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:15:21 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003C_01C53398.320633C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4939.300 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2005 10:25:14.0971 (UTC) FILETIME=[6E534AB0:01C53380] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/25355 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Subject: [FG]: Status: O X-Status: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C53398.320633C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ****NEWS CONFERENCE AT THE NATIONAL PRESS CLUB IN WASHINGT I hate spam We have a saying in my country. He sells sea wrack and calls them to be silk ribbons.=20 Or something like that. Does anybody know if there is a patent for this invention?=20 Have you ever seen his invention work or read any technical = specifications? I think it is possible some of you have read his book. Is that so? Was it informative? I don't think so. I am sure he was just talking about a better world and = what benefits we would have if we bought his incredible machine. Am I = correct? About Dr. E. L. Moragne. How old is he??? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: JNPCo.=20 To: freenrg-L@eskimo.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:33 PM Subject: [FG]:=20 * * * * * Energy Machine Inventor Joseph W. Newman will hold a News Conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. 529 14th Street, NW on Monday, March 28, 1:00PM Lisagor Room * * * * * Joseph Newman will display/demonstrate his newest energy machine that is a quantum leap above his earlier energy machine technology. 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I hate spam

We have a saying in my=20 country.

He sells=20 sea wrack and calls them to be silk ribbons.

Or=20 something like that.

Does anybody know if there is a = patent for this=20 invention?

Have you=20 ever seen his invention work or read any technical = specifications?

I think it=20 is possible some of you have read his book. Is that = so?

Was it=20 informative?

I don’t=20 think so. I am sure he was just talking about a better world and what = benefits=20 we would have if we bought his incredible machine. Am I=20 correct?

About Dr. E. L.=20 Moragne.

How=20 old is he???

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From:=20 JNPCo.