Technologically Advanced Civilizations

I’ve just been reading someone’s attempt at narrowing some of the parameters to the Drake equation.  It is funny because they speak of other technologically advanced civilizations as if we are either technologically advanced or civilized.

Technologically advanced to me would be a civilization that has created a self-sustaining economy that does not degrade the environment.  By civilization, I mean a bunch of people getting along, not a bunch of thugs trying to steal from the rest and waring over dead dinosaurs, or even over pete bogs.  Air you can see through and safely breath.  Water that isn’t just the upstream cities sewage.  Everything is sustainable.  Individuals have freedom, are valued, participate equally or at least can, in the economy of the planet.

If ET sufficiently advanced for interstellar or time travel visit us, I’m sure we’d not be viewed as peers or anything close.  They will view us like we view more primitive life forms.  Ask any cow if she is happy here.  I believe more advanced species would see us as not even their primitive peers but something far more uncooked.  I bet the big thing interesting ET’s about us would be how in the hell did they discover element 92 and they are still here?